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    Nov 12, 2008, 01:32 PM

    Well, the NCIC FBI list has records of all convicted felons, those on parole, and those with warrants. The consolidated "watch-List" does not have the ENTIRE NCIC list on it, but people selected by the FBI from the list who have committed terrorist crimes or are known to have ties to terrorists. Read the link. Customs however, when you return, will check your name against NCIC and that is why you will be busted coming back in.
    I have read so many answers to this question and they all vary - even completely contradict on another. Bottom line - it IS a risk. No one can guarantee you are not on a list except for TSA and they aren't about to tell you. But, just because you are on parole does not qualify you to be on a list - someone from the FBI, NSA, or other gov't agensy must nominate you for that list. I cannot answer your question concerning the difference concerning whether it was a federal or state crime. But since TSA is federal... I really do not know. I am interested in what you can find out.
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    Nov 12, 2008, 02:04 PM

    Its central database is the hub of an elaborate network of terrorism-related databases throughout the federal bureaucracy. Terrorism-related names and other data are sent to the NCTC under standards set by Homeland Security Presidential Directive 6, signed by President Bush in September 2003, according to a senior NCTC official. The directive calls upon agencies to supply data only about people who are "known or appropriately suspected to be . . . engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism."

    "We work on the basis that information reported to us has been collected in accordance with those guidelines," Vice Adm. John Scott Redd, the center's director, said in a statement.

    This is how the list is SUPPOSED to work.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 09:33 AM

    Hey, RNF - I found a ton of stuff up to and including the CBP Inspector's Manual. I have some of it copied onto a .doc file that I can send if you want.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 01:23 PM

    That would be great. Can u send it here? My friend has a friend who is on the Homeland security Task Force and he is going to ask his friend at TSA about it. Like I said though - if you r not on the No-Fly list - you should be okay. You may be a "selectee" which means u will have to pass through xtra security, like a patdown and have the wand waved over you but that is it - you can still fly.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 02:56 PM
    RNF - Here is the stuff I found. Sorry for the length of everything. The link to the Manual is here. Please make sure your friend doesn't end up fixing some loophole before I get through it and back buddy. I'd hate to be the first guy caught! Please, don't let that happen here.



    If there is a problem at primary inspection, then the inspector will type comments/information into the computer. Then the inspector will use a "red card" to identify the passenger's case and will physically escort the passenger to secondary inspection where CBP will then determine admissibility. The CBP inspector at secondary can then review the information in the computer from the primary inspector and also conduct a more thorough inspection. The "red card" cases are for "visitors." U.S. citizens and diplomats who have problems at primary inspection get a "blue card" and are escorted to secondary inspections. They get priority over the "red cards." U.S. citizens can be placed in secondary inspection if there is an outstanding warrant or if they were involved in immigrant smuggling.




    Q: How does CBP analyze the data submitted by each commercial carrier to APIS
    A: The APIS data is checked against the combined federal law enforcement database, known as the Interagency Border Inspection System (IBIS). IBIS includes data from the databases of CBP and twenty-one other federal agencies. Names are also checked against the FBI's National Crime Information Center wanted persons database.

    Q: What Information Is in IBIS?
    A: IBIS keeps track of information on suspect individuals, businesses, vehicles, aircraft, and vessels. IBIS terminals can also be used to access NCIC records on wanted persons, stolen vehicles, vessels or firearms, license information, criminal histories, and previous Federal inspections. The information is used to assist law enforcement and regulatory personnel.








    Before any passport is issued, the passport applicant’s name is checked against a central name check system. A federal or state law enforcement investigative agency may request that a subject be placed in the passport name check system for notification before issuance even when there is no warrant or other court order. The written request should be sent to the Office of Legal Affairs (address below), and should include full biodata of the subject, the statute under which the subject is being investigated, and the agency address and phone number of the officer to be contacted.
    A federal or state law enforcement agency may request the denial of a passport on several regulatory grounds under 22 CFR 51.70 and 51.72. The principal law enforcement reasons for passport denial are a federal warrant of arrest, a federal or state criminal court order, a condition of parole or probation forbidding departure from the United States (or the jurisdiction of the court), or a request for extradition. The HHS child support database and the Marshals Service WIN database are checked automatically for entitlement to a passport. Denial or revocation of a passport does not prevent the use of outstanding valid passports.




    http://www.ilrc.org/resources/CBP_IFM_Feb12008.pdf is the Field Inspector Manual







    12.1 Inspection of U.S. Citizens.
    When you are convinced that an applicant for admission is a citizen of the United States, the examination is terminated. This is not to say that your role as an inspector is always completed at that time. Listing of the subject in a lookout system may dictate further action, such as notifying Customs or another agency of the person’s entry.
    It must be emphasized that the grounds of inadmissibility contained in 212(a) of the INA are applicable only to aliens. Consequently, the examination of a person claiming to be a United States citizen is limited to matters required to establish present citizenship. Once you are satisfied the person being examined is a U.S. citizen and any required lookout query has been completed, the examination is over.
    Temporary detention of a U.S. citizen for extensive questioning generally requires reasonable suspicion that the person is involved in illegal activity. Inspectors cross-designated to perform Customs inspections may, of course, continue questioning for Customs purposes. If probable cause to arrest the U.S. citizen cannot be developed within a reasonable period, the person must be released.
    It is important to note that although the United States does not formally recognize “dual nationality”; many other countries do. It is not unusual to encounter a United States citizen (even native born) bearing evidence of both United States citizenship and foreign nationality. For example, a child born in the United States to a foreign national may, under the laws of that country, be entitled to its parent’s citizenship and be included in the parent’s passport. Under certain circumstances, that document may be used for identification and entry, if presented in conjunction with a birth certificate or other evidence of U.S. citizenship. Specific provisions relating to passport requirements for United States citizens are outlined in 22 CFR 53.1 and 2.
    12.2 Evidence of Citizenship.
    Any time documentary evidence of citizenship is required (e.g. when a passport is required of a U.S. citizen returning from outside of the Western Hemisphere) or whenever documentation is voluntarily
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    Presented by an applicant, you should make an effort to review the documents. If there is any question as to the subject’s citizenship, close scrutiny is necessary to determine that the documents are unaltered, genuine, valid, and belong to the bearer. In the instance where documentation is volunteered by an applicant, you should make a cursory review of the document(s), even if your preliminary inquiries have allowed you to make a determination of the applicant’s United States citizenship. A brief review should be made, if for no other reason, because the applicant may have gone to considerable effort to obtain a particular document and may feel the Service is failing in its responsibility if the document is considered unimportant.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:09 PM

    Thanks for the info bro! That is Customs and Border Patrol - for those ENTERING the U.S. So, again, I do not think there will be a problem LEAVING the country. You have no warrants (I assume) and have no terrorist crimes (I assume) on your record. You should have no problem. Do not worry - my friend will make sure that does not happen (fixing the loophole). If you go, I hope it goes well. As long as you understand that if you do, there will be a warrant issued after you do not report and you cannot get through customs with a warrant.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:13 PM

    R: I found that if they showed warrants then they would not issue a passport. And, I have none. I am not a terrorist or a seditionist. If I get back in time to report, then there will be no problem at all Bro. That is the plan as of now. Let me know what your guy says, OK?
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:16 PM

    I will. That is true - if you get back in time to report, you should be fine. I will definitely let you know. Do not freak out of your boarding pass has a series of ssss on the bottom, it means you musy go through additional security - like I said, a pat down and wand wave. Many have to go through this. You will be fine. You do not have to tell me - but when are you planning on going?
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:19 PM

    Dude, I am so paranoid that this site is watched that I wouldn't even ask except that it is a BIG deal to take this chance. When will you hear from your friend? Soon? I will tell you when I get back without getting intercepted. Why would I have the sssss on my Boarding Pass? If I'm not on a list or anything.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:23 PM

    I know how you feel. I just called and I will hear back by Monday I hope. It can be random, the ssss on your boarding pass, or if someone's name resembles another name on the watch list you will get the ssss. But it is not a big deal. Just a little extra screening. They will not question you unless they have a real reason to believe you are planning something to endanger lives. I wish we could talk through a chat engine or through e-mail - but I do not trust talking about this very easily either.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:24 PM
    Have your searches yielded the same results as mine?? That you will not have a problem leaving??
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:28 PM

    Yeah, it's almost like we were back inside trying to talk on the yard so they can't hear us. Maybe after you hear from your friend we can chat. I can always get a name as a throwaway. I would suggest you do the same. How long are you still on parole?
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:32 PM

    I've got two more years. Long time to wait, but I cannot come back before I report if I left. That means not seeing my family again etc. Good idea - we will get thowaway names on Yahoo messenger.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:33 PM
    Yeah, leaving is easy because you haven't even done anything wrong yet. It only takes a ticket and a passport. If you go to a non-visa destination nothing else is needed. It was getting back in without getting back IN that was of concern.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:34 PM
    You must have to report every week or something. Two years will go fast, especially if you have a tail like I do. I would have like 20 more to do if I go back.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:41 PM

    I thought if you got caught, you would simply do a violation term for absconding and then have to finishe your term of parole. Why would you have to do like 20 years?? It really must be important for you to go then if you have that hangin over your head. BUt you did not answer my question (I do not think you did?) Have your searches yielded the same results as mine - that you can get out without a problem??
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:43 PM

    They can just violate you and you do a term and then finish parole. Or, they can take back yr parole and send you all the way back. It's very important. I did but you missed it, leaving is OK as far as I could tell.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:51 PM

    Well man - some times you got to do what you got to do. I really do hope you can make it bro. I'm glad your results were the same as mine. I was hoping that you were not going to go based on only what I said and not do more checking. I think it is cool but what if I am wrong? I would hate to cause you to go back man. The fact that you got a passport also seems to indicate that no one put your name on a list to be denied even though parole prohibits travel - so that's another plus.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:53 PM

    I think it is all good now bro - just let me know what your guy says on Monday. Got to go to work now but will be on this weekend.
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    Nov 14, 2008, 04:54 PM

    Will probably contact you on Monday. Peace

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