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    tamilguy Posts: 5, Reputation: 1
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    Oct 3, 2009, 05:33 AM
    Difference between diversion and not being found guilty?
    What are the differences between someone being charged and going into a diversion program- and someone going through court of law and being found not guilty?

    I know for a fact that your fingerprints/photos can be erased (for both situations). What else?

    I live in Ontario, Canada.
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    Oct 3, 2009, 06:22 AM

    Ok, you can believe your fingerprints are erased if you want to,

    If you are found not guilty then the court records say you are not guilty, and that is what would be found in a detailed search of court records.

    If you go into a diversion program, the case is dismissed basically but the records of a diversion program is still there.

    To the general public, there is no really difference, but lets say you were going for a job where they would hire a private investigator even to do a background on you, then it could be found
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    Oct 3, 2009, 06:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Ok, you can beleive your fingerprints are erased if you want to,

    if you are found not guilty then the court records say you are not guilty, and that is what would be found in a detailed search of court records.

    If you go into a diversion program, the case is dismissed basicly but the records of a diversion program is stil there.

    To the general public, there is no really difference, but lets say you were going for a job where they would hire a private investigator even to do a background on you, then it could be found
    What do you mean "you can believe your fingerprints are erased if you want to"?

    If they say the fingerprints are destroyed- they are destroyed.
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    Oct 5, 2009, 04:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tamilguy View Post
    What do you mean "you can believe your fingerprints are erased if you want to"?

    If they say the fingerprints are destroyed- they are destroyed.


    I wouldn't count on that.
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    Oct 5, 2009, 05:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    I wouldn't count on that.
    Why do you say that? Isn't it illegal then if they don't?
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    Oct 5, 2009, 06:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by kumarsingam View Post
    Why do you say that? Isn't it illegal then if they don't?

    I say that because the prints aren't always destroyed.

    I'm sure a Civil Rights Attorney can tell you if the practice of maintaining them is illegal.
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    Oct 5, 2009, 08:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by kumarsingam View Post
    Why do you say that? Isn't it illegal then if they don't?
    Hello k:

    If a STATE court orders the FBI to destroy their records, do you really believe the Federal Government is going to obey a state court?? I sure don't.

    excon
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    Oct 5, 2009, 06:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello k:

    If a STATE court orders the FBI to destroy their records, do you really believe the Federal Government is going to obey a state court??? I sure don't.

    excon
    Why wouldn't they destroy it? If the person who was charged is innocent by court of law? I sure don't know why they wouldn't. Every individual has the right to be treated like everyone else if the charges are withdrawn.
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    Oct 5, 2009, 06:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by kumarsingam View Post
    Why wouldn't they destroy it? If the person who was charged is innocent by court of law? I sure don't know why they wouldn't. Every individual has the right to be treated like everyone else if the charges are withdrawn.
    Hello again, k:

    Please don't misunderstand me. I agree with you absolutely. Every individual DOES have the right to be treated equally.

    Where we disagree, is whether the FBI is an agency that can be counted on to enforce those rights. You think they are. I don't.

    excon
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    Oct 6, 2009, 03:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, k:

    Please don't misunderstand me. I agree with you absolutely. Every individual DOES have the right to be treated equally.

    Where we disagree, is whether the FBI is an agency that can be counted on to enforce those rights. You think they are. I don't.

    excon
    Hello e:

    There is no FBI in Ontario, Canada.

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