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arcura · Jan 14, 2009, 11:29 PM

simoneaugie.
It is not a matter of vote about what the bible says.
If the bible says it is wrong, then as far as I'm concerned it is wrong.
But for homosexual activities long before I knew what the bible says or does not say about that I believed it was wrong because it is so very repugnant.
I know nice people who are gay and I like them but not what they sexually do.

JSingle911 · Jan 15, 2009, 07:17 AM

arcura:

I don't know that personal taste should be a factor in predetermining right and wrong. I have always believed that grapefruit are repugnant. Should I preform an idea of what God thinks about grapefruit based on that?

In any case, can we all agree that grapefruit are an affront to God?

450donn · Jan 15, 2009, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by simoneaugie

Don't worry, be happy may not "save" you, but do any of us need saving? The Creator put us here with choices such as not murdering. Yet are those who commit murder punished by God? If death is not something to fear, but a ticket to be with God, then people like Hitler are to be thanked.Since Thou shalt not commit murder is one of the ten commandments I guess Hitler will answer for that come Judgment day!

Sexuality is as natural as eating. Choosing not to harm one another is more sensible than rape. But desiring those of your own sex is not a "sin." If you choose to feel guilty about it, okay. If someone causes fear for you because of the way the Creator made you, well, that doesn't seem sensible to me.Again. not according to the binble. And since this is a Christian board the discussions center around the bible and what it says, not your opinion.

The Bible, or making judgements based on what is written there is legal. Being homosexual is legal too. Only according to the laws of man, not GOD!I don't see the sense in telling you that you are "wrong" and must repent to fit my idea of what you "should" be. If certain Christians have their way, the legality of what other consenting adult a person sleeps with will be put to a vote. This vote will exclude those who would vote nay because they are wrong.[COLOR="Red"Nope! Would never be put to a vote. It would be judged according to what the Bible says is right or wrong. Two people of the same gender having sex is wrong according to the bible. There is no different interpretation to that it is wrong. If you choose to engage in homosexual practices that is your right as an individual to choose that path. God gave you free will after all. But if you are feeling guilty for those actions please do not try and prevert what the scriptures say to make yourself feel better about your sin.

Argument's rage constantly throughout the church. The church has proven itself to not be totally accurate throughout the ages. The crusades are a good example. Most of the doctrinal problems in the church of Jesus Christ have come about because man has tried to inject his laws and rules into the word. Does not work that way. If man would live by the word of God, thinking of the Bible as an operators manual for us, things would not be where they are today. And many of the problems throughout history would likely never have occurred.

arcura · Jan 15, 2009, 04:12 PM

JSingle911,
It is what the bible says about that.
Homosexual acts are sinful.

cozyk · Jan 15, 2009, 04:38 PM

The church has proven itself to not be totally accurate throughout the ages.

The church has proven itself??? Isn't that like letting the fox guard the hen house?

arcura · Jan 15, 2009, 09:24 PM

cozyk,
No it is not.
The Church is full of human beings who make mistakes.
Jesus knew that when He established Hid Church, but He went right ahead and did it anyway.
I think Jesus knew what He was doing.
If I was as wise as God I would know the answer of why Jesus did as He did.
But, obviously, I am not.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

simoneaugie · Jan 15, 2009, 10:23 PM

My opinion, whether on the Christian board or somewhere else is just that. An opinion directed towards that which the OP originally asked should only appear on this board if it supports Christianity?

That's the point of answering with opinions. If you can answer without your own opinions entering into your thoughts, including how you feel about the validity of the bible, let's hear it.

De Maria · Jan 16, 2009, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by simoneaugie

My opinion, whether on the Christian board or somewhere else is just that. An opinion directed towards that which the OP originally asked should only appear on this board if it supports Christianity?

Correct.

That's the point of answering with opinions. If you can answer without your own opinions entering into your thoughts, including how you feel about the validity of the bible, let's hear it.

Not too long ago, a Christian couldn't get a word in edgewise in this Christian forum. People writing in with questions about Christ and Christianity were belittled and derided by atheists and anti-christians. It got so bad that the atheists were calling the Christians on this Christian forum, "trolls". If that makes any sense.

That is why the moderators decided that atheists and anti-Christians who want to debate Christianity are now supposed to do so in the Religious discussion forum. So that those who want Christian answers may obtain them here in peace.

This board is for Christians and people seeking Christian answers. The board moderators have decided that those who wish to challenge Christianity may do so on the Religious discussion board.

arcura · Jan 16, 2009, 11:46 PM

De Maria,
I'm very glad that the moderators did that.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

jakester · Jan 17, 2009, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by arcura

De Maria,
I'm very glad that the moderators did that.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Me, too.

Fr_Chuck · Jan 17, 2009, 08:30 PM

Yes, this was the reason, while we try and allow discussion to a point on Christianity, the discussion boards were allowed for a more free exchange, but even there limits exist. Personal attacks, which normally happen when they cut and paste parts of a post and attack each word, or start name calling.
Most discussions start crossing lines by page 8 or 9 normally.

But yes, anti christian posts on the christian board, anti muslim posts on the Islam board,
It is no difference than perhaps someone going on the legal board and giving totally wrong advice, If someone is asking about a christian opinion, then a Islam opinion is not correct there. And so on.

talaniman · Jan 17, 2009, 08:57 PM

Maybe you should have a stickie saying "Christians only, no one else is welcome or wanted!"

Sorry they tried that with water fountains, way back in the day!

cozyk · Jan 17, 2009, 09:07 PM

Curious? If everybody believes the same and thinks the same what is the point and how do we learn other possibilities? It would just be a board of christians slapping each other on the back saying, yep, yep, me too, yep, yep. If you believe something very strongly in your heart and soul, then any opposition would be welcome. I invite people to poke holes in my beliefs. It makes me really examine and possibly incorporate some new ideas.

Fr_Chuck · Jan 17, 2009, 09:12 PM

Sorry but the Christianity board was so bad, non christians and others wanting nothing but to attack christians ( trolls) did nothing but attack any question or post of a christian giving a answer. A board was set up for a more free exchange but even there, limits still exist.

If you go to the legal board you expect a answer that deals with the legal part of a question, not a moral rant, and if you start a moral rant there, it is deleted.

If you go to the auto board, a poster who rants on the evil of gasoline engires would be soon banned.

A person who asked about this or that view point from a christian, gets the same respect and same protection to get just that.

De Maria · Jan 17, 2009, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by cozyk

Curious? If everybody believes the same and thinks the same what is the point and how do we learn other possibilities? It would just be a board of christians slapping each other on the back saying, yep, yep, me too, yep, yep. If you believe something very strongly in your heart and soul, then any opposition would be welcome. I invite people to poke holes in my beliefs. It makes me really examine and possibly incorporate some new ideas.

If you hadn't noticed, this isn't a debate board, but an information board. People come here expecting to get answers in any number of subjects. This is the Christian section of that board and people who post their questions here are expecting Christian answers. Not anti-Christian answers.

There is a discussion section on this website where you can debate to your hearts content. Why don't you go there? Or do you simply want to pounce on unsuspecting people who are trying to get answers, never suspecting that they are going to be attacked for their beliefs?

Fr_Chuck · Jan 17, 2009, 09:44 PM

Thread closed

Seems all people want to do is cry poor me