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    mrs goggings Posts: 2, Reputation: 1
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    May 3, 2007, 04:01 AM
    Unmarried sons rights to his 2week old daughter
    My sons ex girlfriend is saying his visiting rights are only for 2 hours every Sunday.Hopefully he will go with her next week to get the birth registered and his name will be put on the certificate as the fathers.What are his rights to see his daughter and need he get solicitors involved.
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    May 3, 2007, 05:41 AM
    Where are you located? The laws vary by country and by state in the US. Your use of "solicitors" makes me think you aren't in the US though.
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    May 3, 2007, 06:19 AM
    In the US, he will have to file in court for the court to issue specific visitation orders, if he does not go to court, he is only allowed what the mother will let him.
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    May 3, 2007, 07:13 AM
    We are situated in Holbrook England. Hope you can still answer my question
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    May 3, 2007, 07:56 AM
    I would assume the UK also has formal custody, child support, and visitation agreements. I believe your son needs to get such a formal agreement in place and should hire a solicitor to help him navigate the processes.
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    May 3, 2007, 08:48 AM
    I am in the UK. I am no where near an expert in these things but I have a young grandson living with me. My son is his father. My case very different from yours but I would suggest that your son talks to a solicitor. In an ideal world your son and his ex would agree on visitation rights. But it's not an ideal world and he would benefit from having everything done and agreed upon through the courts.

    The starting line for your son should be that he has a job, he is paying maintenance and he has a safe and fit environment to bring his child to for visits and perhaps stay-overs when the child is older.

    Personally, I would like to suggest that your son put on the kid gloves. The baby is only two weeks old, the mother is going to be very protective at this stage. He may have to be prepared to give her some time. It is very difficult for a new mum to let her baby out of her sight. Hopefully if he can be thoughtful and caring and understanding now, agreements may be reached in the not too distant future. Having said that, I don't mean for him to take a step back - he has to be seen to want what he says he wants - more time with his child.

    And just as an after thought, you are also entitled to see your grandchild. It might mean going to court but you do have rights too.

    Again, my personal advice would be for you all to try to be friends for the baby's sake - “It takes a whole village to bring up a child successfully.” Try to convince her that everyone has a part to play in the life of her child.


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    May 3, 2007, 03:50 PM
    I agree with BlueRose. One more thing to take into consideration when asking for more time right now at this very early age is whether mum is breastfeeding. Babies breastfeed so often the visits really should be frequent but very short in length so as not to interfere with that.
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    May 3, 2007, 11:10 PM
    1badchoice,

    I agree. A few short visits on a weekly basis at this point perhaps with the intention also of building a decent friendly relationship with the mum. It's a lot of hard work looking after a baby. If he plays his cards right she may even be glad of the break even if it is only for an hour or two. I would advise taking it slow, and stand your ground - but with understanding and compassion, not accusations and recriminations.
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    May 3, 2007, 11:19 PM
    tawnynkids,

    Very good point about breastfeeding.

    mrs goggings,

    You could help him understand the worries and the struggles of taking care of a baby. Even live at home dad's have to hang around and wait their turn for a cuddle. At this point in time he just has to be there every chance he gets and support his child's mum as much as he can.
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    Dec 18, 2007, 07:50 PM
    He needs to take this to court to get better visitation rights. I believe that his visitation rights, right now are wrong but only the court can issue other wise.

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