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conniewright · May 6, 2007, 01:33 AM

I have purchased an old print, the paper is obviously old, the ink of the picture is very different froma signature and what I think is a print mark. I spent hours online, found this mark only 2 other times, and reference to this picture only once-even when I searched by title specifically. Also, the print is numbered. I got the print several years ago and have since forgotten exactly where and for how much-it did not come with a certificate-nor was it advertised as a Rembrandt. How can I locate more information that I am sure can be trusted and at the same time be discrete?
Thanks

tickle · May 6, 2007, 03:44 AM

I have numbered prints of the Group of Seven which were pricey. They have a seal affixed beside the number, the number basically meaning how many of this print were made and which one is yours, i.e. 127/495. I don't think this systems was started anymore then 75 years ago, and would only be done while the artist was still living. So it is unlikely that you have a 'numbered' rembrant.

conniewright · May 6, 2007, 07:32 PM

I am wondering where I would find the printer mark listed-as to what it means-I have only found it in a couple of other places. The number is a year date--I am away from home at the moment-but it is 1643 or 1634 and then as near as I can make out-tries to imply a copyright. This writing is outside the print boundary lines and are added in a slightly different kind of stuff-not the dark ink of the print. The paper is very thickish and soft like, and of a color that indicates age. I really didn't pay hardly anything, so I don't expect a surprise find; but I would like to know more about it.
The name of the print is in Latin, but it translates in part to Christ... Pilate and shows such.
I just can find but 1 ref. to it anywhere.

Clough · May 7, 2007, 08:04 PM

What is the title of the print? Using the Latin would be fine.

conniewright · May 7, 2007, 10:17 PM

This is where I have lost some information due to computer problems, I do know for a fact the name of it dealt with Pilate washing his hands of Christ. It depicts Christ, hands chained, wearing a crown of thorns and surrounded by guards. An official (Pilate I am presuming) is shown placating an angry crowd, very prominent in them is one who is scheming and is probably a high ranking Jewish man. Along the bottom slightly left from center-outside print boundary line "Rembrandt" another letter which could I guess be a "J"---but not modern American style, then "1636" Then a word or series of something---maybe--in Latin? Would it be 'copyright?'
Far over at the left edge of the print line, very very tiny--"No 52"
There is no title on it anywhere, and like I said, I have searched museums online in several countries, US, France, Holland, etc, online private collections and books and have found this mentioned only one other place---computer melt down has since lost that.
There is also a strangely shaped circle 'thing' kind of hanging from print boundary at the center of the bottom.
Finally, if Rembrandt's signature is contained within it--I can not see it.
I know this is a long vague answer--I've searched for more succinct and better-but can not find it.
Thanks,
Connie

Clough · May 8, 2007, 03:05 AM

If I were you, I'd take the print to a bookstore that sells both modern and antique books and see what they think. I am suspecting that it may be from an ancient book about things concerning the early Christian church. I have seen single pages from ancient manuscripts displayed on the walls of churches.