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    Oct 23, 2007, 02:52 AM
    Ancient civilizations
    I just watched Is it real? On National Geographic on the Lost City Atlantis.

    And some are saying that the hieroglyphics on the pyramids and the Sphinx talk about aliens.
    The commentator also mentioned that the Mayans and Egyptians must have had aliens helping them to make their building structures.

    Is this what archeologists in general believe? Why is it not accepted that it just could be that the ancient civilizations had skilled people to get such smooth work done from amongst the tools they must have had?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 02:55 AM
    I think that the ancient civiliastions where perfectly capable of building such things.
    And they could be talking about aliens, or just gods/angels of some kind, it would all seem the same to them.
    And it took hundreds of years for pyramids to be built, and massive amounts of labor.
    People tend to underestimate the ancient civiliastions level of technology.
    Athens had flushing toilets even.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 03:03 AM
    Cal,
    I have read about toilets at Roman bath houses having a flushing system.
    I believe they were so much more advanced in their way than we are today where machines help make life easier.:)
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    Oct 23, 2007, 03:07 AM
    Yerp, have you read about roman road systems? They were very advanced and well designed. Also, the mayans had structures with great stones that they somehow fitted together perfectly tightly with no gaps which is amazing.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 03:32 AM
    I have read some but not enough on the Mayans.
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    Oct 30, 2007, 01:38 PM
    Ancient civilization was far more advanced than us at one time.
    I had a really good site about it but my son keeps messing with my computer and losing my saved sites.

    Most Christians believe the earth is only 6,000 years old and swear you have to be a believer of evolution if you believe otherwise, but I and some Christians do not believe in evolution yet do believe that the universe existed before the six day creation; and six day creation was more of a 're'-creation. It is called the gap theory. That explains how there can be so much that points to explaining the ancient stuff that doesn't seem to fit in with the Bible yet doesn't negate the Bible. It makes more sense to me than anything.

    The Gap Theory of Genesis Chapter One (a layman's critical appraisal)
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    Oct 30, 2007, 02:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by firmbeliever
    I just watched Is it real? On National Geographic on the Lost City Atlantis.

    Is this what archeologists in general believe?
    No - this is not what arecheologists believe. There have been lots of crack pots who have put forth various wild arguments regarding aliens coming to help the Mayans, or the Egyptions, or the Easter Island sculpters, but none of it has any scientific merit. Unfortunaletely some TV programs like to dig this stuff up because it may get good ratings. Personaly I believe that these ideas are at best ignorant, an at worst downright racist.
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    Oct 31, 2007, 12:02 AM
    ebaines,
    Those were my thoughts too.They just needed something added to spice up the program.
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    Feb 27, 2008, 06:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by firmbeliever
    I just watched Is it real? On National Geographic on the Lost City Atlantis.

    And some are saying that the hieroglyphics on the pyramids and the Sphinx talk about aliens.
    The commentator also mentioned that the Mayans and Egyptians must have had aliens helping them to make their building structures.

    Is this what archeologists in general believe? Why is it not accepted that it just could be that the ancient civilizations had skilled people to get such smooth work done from amongst the tools they must have had?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Apr 23, 2008, 05:23 AM
    Roman toilets weren't exactly 'flushing toilet's but, aside from being very public, side by side, the water was constantly running in duct work under the seats and carrying the waste away under the streets and deposited in a sewer system.

    They had, as well, heating systems developed when they inhabited Britain to combat the cold winters there, in separate 'furnace' rooms using copper and ceramic duct work to carry hot water under the floors to every room in the house.
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    Jun 10, 2008, 12:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by firmbeliever
    I just watched Is it real? On National Geographic on the Lost City Atlantis.

    And some are saying that the hieroglyphics on the pyramids and the Sphinx talk about aliens.
    The commentator also mentioned that the Mayans and Egyptians must have had aliens helping them to make their building structures.

    Is this what archeologists in general believe? Why is it not accepted that it just could be that the ancient civilizations had skilled people to get such smooth work done from amongst the tools they must have had?

    Thanks in advance.
    Lmao! Alieenss!! I'm Egyptian, believe me we don't have Aliens, I would love to meet one thou! :D
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    Jul 15, 2008, 10:46 PM
    Stories like this have been around a long time. They were 'popularized' in the 1970s by von Danniken's (sp) Chariots of the Gods. There are even archaeologist who are otherwise fairly respected in other areas who favor these views. But while I think it's possible that ET has been here, I don't think they helped build anything. Just because the Incans (and Mayans and Aztecs) managed to move those huge stones without the wheel doesn't mean they had 'outside' help. For a clue to how clever they were, check out their accurate calanders. (And no, I don't believe they predicted a world disaster for 2012.)



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    Jul 22, 2008, 01:31 PM
    Lol what disaster are you talking about?! That thing is new, never heard about before, they used to wait for flood to move the stones.. as far as I know.. let me check for you more and ask my cousin she studies history :)
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    Jul 22, 2008, 02:22 PM
    WV, the mayan callender ends in 20l2. From calculations now, their calendar was accurate. 20l2 was the end of the world according to them. But their idea of the end probably was entirely different from ours as we know what nuclear warfare can do.
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    Jul 22, 2008, 05:20 PM
    That the calendar ends in 2012 is now used by some as a new catastrophe-end-of-the-world scenario. Hist Channel even did a show on it. I agree w/ your interpretation...



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    Jul 22, 2008, 09:01 PM
    What I don't get is why everyone thinks that aliens would zip around in ufos visiting us.
    Just because they may or may not exist on other worlds doesn't mean they have space travel.
    They probably would be incapable of understanding our sentience or may not even realise we are living things seeing as how they may not be carbon based or even solid life forms as we know it.
    And if they helped build stuff, it wouldn't be using existing methods of construction such as stone work.
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    Jul 31, 2008, 01:47 PM
    I am currently reading a book on that very subject by Graham Hancock entitled "Fingerprints of the Gods." It is an incredibly interesting book and his theory is that at one time in pre-history there was an advanced civilization that was destroyed and the survivors attempted to spread their knowledge to the lesser-advanced peoples they encountered.

    Let me give you just two examples that this guy refers to-he is very specific in the evidence he presents.

    You have probably heard of the Nazca lines in Peru. These huge depictions were done in ancient times and consist of lines, shapes and pictures of animals and insects that are only visible from the air. The author mentions a huge picture of a spider and points out that it depicts an insect that does not live in that area, but on the opposite side of the Andes mountain range. Also, the Nazca drawing of the legs of this spider depict features only visible under a microscope!

    Another piece of evidence are the ancient maps of the polar regions that were made at a time before they were covered with ice. There is supposed to be no way that the people of the time could have got there, let alone made the maps.

    There are plenty of things in history and archeology that are yet to be explained. This guy offers some explanations without going too far out in his conclusions. If you can get the book, it is certainly worth reading.
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    Jul 31, 2008, 02:14 PM
    Then you should Google the Pieri Ri'es map of the l500s done by a Turk of the North American Continent and Antartica. It is amazingly accurate and a birds eye view.
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    Jul 31, 2008, 05:49 PM
    I'm familiar w/ Hancock's work. He does talk a good case but I find his conclusions suspect (they remind me too much of Daniken's). The Incas etc were adept at trading and maybe that spider was seen by a traveler and imnpressed him. Just as logical a theory, maybe more so than Hancock's. The idea of the "only seen under a microscope" part is a bit farfetched considering how the Nazca lines are made. His ideas on the supposed advanced construction remind me of those that say the ancient Egyptians couldn't have come up with their ideas on their own.. Hancock is a believer in Atlantis - not the possibly historical one but the fanciful one that has spurred so much speculation. I think he may also be one of those who think it was actually in S Am. Don't get me wrong. I find hois theories thought provoking and I watch his docs when they come on because I find them interesting. I just think he's selling the intelligence of the ancient peoples short.
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    Jul 31, 2008, 06:02 PM
    Yes the Pieri Ries map is one of the ones I am talking about, it is supposed to be based on much older maps. Yes, Hancock does remind me of Van Daniken, I just think his conclusions are not as far-fetched. He can't prove them, of course, and admits it.

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