Musk is releasing proof of how Twitter and big tech colluded with Quid Pro Joe to rig the 2020 elections by suppressing the content of the Hunter Biden laptop

Just a reminder of one of the key texts that was on the computer .

“I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years. It’s really hard. But don’t worry, unlike Pop, I won’t make you give me half of your salary.”(Hunter Biden, text message to daughter Naomi, 2019)

China, Ukraine and Russia threw millions of dollars to the Biden Crime Family .“The Big Guy” got 10 percent.

What is missing from the files to date is the role of the Intel community that lied to America and called the laptop Russian disinformation. What is also missing is the FBI; having the laptop in their possession ,slow walked the Hunter Biden investigation past the 2020 election and even past the 2022 .

These agencies of the government gave cover to the deep state selected candidate . Yes the deep state was involved . It selected Clueless Joe to be the Dem standard bearer after Bolshevik Bernie was winning all the early primaries . Then Rep of South Carolina James Clayborn spoke up for the deep state and gave the nod to Joe . It is no surprise that Joe is taking steps to ensure that states like Iowa and New Hampshire will no longer hold the early Dem primaries /caucus .

The compliant press ,especially taxpayer supported NPR also participated in the cover up with managing editor Terence Samuel saying “We don’t want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories, and we don’t want to waste the listeners’ and readers’ time on stories that are just pure distractions”

A presidential election ongoing and the national public radio station did not want to "waste time" on a major story about one of the candidates . No collusion there </sarc>

The crackhead whore mongering son of the VP was doing very well for himself as he navigated the world of international business . Who was the bigger whoremonger ....Hunter or the 'Big Guy ' ?

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I am reopening discussion .

It was notable that what was missing from the initial release of the Twitter suppression of the Hunter Biden scandal was the role the FBI played in the suppression . They conta cted and pressured Big Tech platforms to censor the news on the grounds of what they knew was a lie ;that the laptop was the product of Russian disinformation.

The reason those exchanges were not in the release was because former FBI council James Baker ;who was a key player in the Russian collusion hoax and FBI coup attempt against Trump ,had been hired by the previous ownership of Twitter ..


He took it upon himself to "vet" the release without Musk knowing about it . NY Post New York Post's Miranda Devine who was the first to report on the laptop October 2020 noted the discrepancy. Musk determined that Baker's explanation for the coverup was unconvicing so he canned Baker .


Elon Musk on Twitter: "@mtaibbi In light of concerns about Baker’s possible role in suppression of information important to the public dialogue, he was exited from Twitter today" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1600237095364096000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1600237095364096000%7Ctwgr% 5E92af407e9c171ef06b73f9b79510404cc5e634e4%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxbusiness.com%2Fpoliti cs%2Felon-musk-fires-twitter-deputy-general-counsel-jim-baker-amid-hunter-biden-laptop-fallout)

Reminder . Baker was part of Durham's indictment of Sussman . When Sussmann wanted to plant the bizarre false claim of secret communications between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin, Baker was his go to, speed dial contact. When Comey resigned from the FBI and Christopher Wray assumed directorship ,Baker was forced to resign from the FBI.

He was hired by Twitter . Quid Pro Joe's team reached out to suppress the story ;and Baker acting as a Twitter council was eager to comply .

When asked Twitter execs involved in internal content vetting if it was proper to suppress the story Baker replied “it’s reasonable for us to assume that they may have been [hacked] and that caution is warranted.”

He knew that was a lie . He had been at the FBI and knew that the FBI had already authenticated the laptop.

He also was hired by the Brookings Institution which also played a key role in the Russia collusion hoax.

At Twitter the FBI held weekly meetings warning them of an impending hack and dump effort by the Russians about Hunter Biden before the Post story . They had Baker on the inside at Twitter and when the Post story was published Baker was ready to pounce and suppress it .

We need a dozen more versions of Musk. As shocking as this is, it will be fussed over for a few weeks and then largely forgotten.

The problem is that it is not shocking . EVERYONE knew the truth and were content with it . The only thing that mattered was to defeat Trump at all cost. That was true in 2016 ;2020 and 2022 , You watch . There will be hearings over all this stuff that will amount to nothing .

Yertle and his wife Elaine Chao dip their beaks in the same China trough as the Biden crime family . 2004 they had a fortune of about $3.1 million . Chao became Transportation Sec and the Yertl Senate confirmed her appointment .

Between then and now while both served the nation their wealth increased to the $30 million range (hard to tell exactly because Elaine's dad "gifted " Yertle about $25 million ) .

The Chao family has had close ties to Communist China through Foremost Group ,the shipping company that Elaine's father James formed in 1964 . He was a classmate of former Chinese Premier Jiang Zemin . Elaine was employed there in the 1970s .The company does a lot of business with state controlled China State Shipbuilding Corp. (CSSC),CSSC's main business is with the People's Liberation Navy ( PLN) .
Through family ties 2 top US officials (Senator and Transportation Sec) did business with the Chinese Navy .

Trump has accused Yertle of enriching himself through the China relationship . That partly explains the animosity between the 2.

The 'Twitter files 'as this doc dump has been called exposed the lengths the FBI went to suppress the laptop story prior to the 2020 election.

The FBI took possession of the laptop Dec 2019 . This was in connection with their investigation of Hunter's money laundering . The content of the laptop has been independently verified by 3 compliant press organizations ...the Slimes ;Compost ,and CBS News.

Rudy got his hands on a copy of the laptop content in the summer of 2020 . It was reasonable to assume that he would release the content to media outlets. So the FBI went to work.

They began warning big tech sites like Twitter and Fakebook to be aware of a possible Russian disinformation campaign around a "hack " involving propaganda information about Hunter .

The Quid Pro Joe machine went to work discrediting information about Hunter and the Biden crime family.

Oct 14 the NY Post publishes clear proof from the lap top to dispute claims by Quid that “I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.”
Twitter and Fakebook limited distribution of the Post article on the grounds that it could be hacked material.]

Former FBI council and key player in the Russia hoax coup attempt against Trump;James Baker ;was embedded in Twitter as the company’s deputy general counsel advised Twitter personnel in charge of vetting that “it’s reasonable for us to assume that they may have been [hacked] and that caution is warranted.”
There can be little doubt that the compliant press got similar warnings from the FBI . They went into overtime in their efforts to suppress the story.

Congressional Dems who tried everything in their power to remove Trump from office like Adam Schiffhead taking their cue from the FBI narrative immediately called the laptop story Russian propaganda. Then the intel agencies got into the act calling the story Russian propaganda.

This was an orchestrated campaign of suppression of news that could've impacted the election.Quid used the letter generated by the intel people in his debate with Trump to end discussion of the issue during the debate.

We are to believe that Quid never spoke to Christopher Wray or Merrick Garland about the authenticity of the laptop or even asked Hunter if he indeed forgot to pick up his laptop from the repair shop or even if Hunter was aware if it was missing .

So how involved was the FBI in censorship by proxy ? According to the Twitter files they were 'partners ' in the effort.

Twitter's moderation decisions during this time period increasingly relied on input from the FBI and DHS. In internal Slack conversations, Twitter policy director Nick Pickles floated the idea of publicly admitting that the company's misinformation policies were partly based on feedback from experts in law enforcement; he eventually decided just to call them "partnerships."
Other Slack messages suggest that Roth met regularly, even weekly, with the FBI and DHS. The FBI also reported tweets for spreading election misinformation, sometimes prompting Twitter to take action.

Twitter Files: FBI, DHS Reported Tweets for Election Misinformation (reason.com) (https://reason.com/2022/12/10/dhs-fbi-twitter-files-misinformation-matti-taibbi-yoel-roth/)


This is a clever work-around for violating the 1st amendment that needs to be addressed .

This also begs the question about what role the government had in "partnership" with big tech to suppress opposition to draconian covid restrictions and covid related content that went contrary to the government approved narrative .

Just to make matters clear, the top liberal news organizations are completely silent about this issue. CNN makes no mention of it, but does find space to say, "There's a sense that Trump is approaching a moment of maximum legal peril." ABC news likewise does not mention it, but could mention a story about a Famed Hollywood mountain lion being captured after killing a dog. MSNBC does mention it, but only in a way that ends up being critical of, of course, Elon Musk.

The files released reveal that former CEO Jack Dorsey repeatedly lied under oath to Congress. Pa. Dem Rep Mike Doyle asked him "Social media is being rigged to censor conservatives. Is that true of Twitter?" He replied no . Doyle asked if Twitter was censoring people . Again Dorsey denied it .Twitter’s shadow-banning prominent Republicans… is that true?" Dorsey replied no. He was asked if Twitter was acting as a surrogate to the government to do what government cannot legally do itself . Again Dorsey denied it .


Jack Dorsey told Congress under oath Twitter was not shadow-banning (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/12/10/jack-dorsey-told-congress-under-oath-twitter-was-not-shadow-banning/)

Twitter referred to its shadowbanning as “Visibility Filtering,(VF) Where it would “block searches of individual users; to limit the scope of a particular tweet’s discoverability; to block select users’ posts from ever appearing on the ‘trending’ page, and from inclusion in hashtag searches"

Bari Weiss on Twitter: "9. “VF” refers to Twitter’s control over user visibility. It used VF to block searches of individual users; to limit the scope of a particular tweet’s discoverability; to block select users’ posts from ever appearing on the “trending” page; and from inclusion in hashtag searches." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601015659491532800)

Just to make matters clear, the top liberal news organizations are completely silent about this issue. CNN makes no mention of it, but does find space to say, "There's a sense that Trump is approaching a moment of maximum legal peril." ABC news likewise does not mention it, but could mention a story about a Famed Hollywood mountain lion being captured after killing a dog. MSNBC does mention it, but only in a way that ends up being critical of, of course, Elon Musk.

WSJ addressed this


Our press would bring these stories to light if it could refute them, but it can’t so it ignores them. And no, Twitter and Substack aren’t a substitute for institutions that can deploy teams of reporters and substantial resources to investigations.
The point has long since stopped being whose ox is gored, Mr. Trump’s or Mr. Biden’s. American voters whatever their sympathies don’t want their government and media lying to them to shape their political choices. (Put aside lying in a way that falsely incriminates a nuclear-armed hostile power as trying to fix a U.S. election on behalf of one of the candidates—an element of this episode that none want to confront. )
The election is over; the truth is kept from you now to protect the guilty, not to save the country from the supposed menace of Trumpism. In a different universe far, far away—that is, America pre-Donald Trump—a conscientious press would be reporting the hell out of all this.


Hunter Biden’s Laptop and 2020’s First Big Lie - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/2020s-first-big-lie-hunter-biden-business-laptop-51-intelligence-officials-censorship-press-twitter-national-media-11670965437?mod=opinion_lead_pos9)

Adam Schiffhead and Rep Takano wrote a letter to Musk demanding that he censor what they call 'hate speech' This they sent on official Congressional letter head

Letter to Twitter 12/8/22 (house.gov) (https://schiff.house.gov/imo/media/doc/letter_to_twitter.pdf)

Musk countered that there is no increase in so called hate speech since he assumed control .

Elon Musk on Twitter: "@RepAdamSchiff @RepMarkTakano False, hate speech impressions are actually down by 1/3 for Twitter now vs prior to acquisition @CommunityNotes" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1600944225964593152)

What he could've mentioned was that the very purpose of the 1st Amendment was specifically to prevent Congress from regulating speech. This is a clear case of a work around by Congress to violate the Bill of Rights. This will be followed by "jawboning" ;implying punitive action if Musk does not toe the line.
Jawboning against Speech | Cato Institute (https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/jawboning-against-speech)

Whatever censorship Twitter imposes on it's users is between Twitter and it's users . The government has no role and coercion is completely against the 1st amendment .

Adam Schiffhead and Rep Takano wrote a letter to Musk demanding that he censor what they call 'hate speech' This they sent on official Congressional letter head

Absolutely FALSE! There was no demand to censor stated in Schiff's letter.


This will be followed by "jawboning" ;implying punitive action if Musk does not toe the line.
Jawboning against Speech | Cato Institute (https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/jawboning-against-speech)
(https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/jawboning-against-speech)The final sentence of the Cato link:

Ultimately, congressional rulemaking and the people’s selection of liberal, temperate officials remain the only reliable checks on this novel threat to free speech.

Note Cato's solution - LIBERAL officials.

The letter is posted below. Big question for me is, how is it any of their business?


Dear Mr. Musk:
As Members of Congress, we are deeply concerned about the recent rise in hate speech on Twitter. Analysis by independent researchers indicates Twitter has become an increasingly toxic place for our constituents, and we are reaching out to you to understand the actions Twitter is taking to combat this increase in harmful content.
Although you tweeted that one of your goals as Chief Executive Officer of Twitter was strong content moderation on the platform, the results of your leadership have been the opposite. Multiple reports have shown that since you became CEO in late October, hate speech has dramatically increased on Twitter. Under your leadership, there has been an extreme spike in the number of tweets that include slurs, the level of engagement with these tweets, and the popularity of spreading this harmful rhetoric.
According to the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), the number of tweets containing slurs has grown since you have become CEO compared to the 2022 average. Slurs against Black people have tripled in daily mentions. Slurs against women have increased 33 percent from the 2022 average mentions, and slurs against gay men have increased by 58 percent. Before you assumed the role of CEO, engagement with these tweets averaged 13.3 replies, retweets, or likes. Now, engagement with slurs has increased 273 percent, with the average number of replies, retweets, or likes averaging 49.5 on tweets containing hate speech.
Of particular concern to us is the rise in anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric on Twitter under your supervision. Based on data analysis, anti-LGBTQ+ extremists are picking up followers at quadruple the pace since the change in leadership.5 With increased followers, these actors are seeing wider circulation of their hateful tweets on the platform, which we fear might spark even more real-world violence against the LGBTQ+ community.
After the Colorado Springs Shooting, in which the LGBTQ+ community was specifically targeted, we saw anti-LGBTQ+ hate become viral on Twitter. Research found that tweets from prominent extremists have been “viewed tens of millions of times in the wake of the Colorado Springs Shooting” and that just 20 of the most prominent hateful tweets “can be estimated to have picked up a total of 35 million views.” You tweeted that the “New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized” but we have yet to see any evidence of follow-through on Twitter.
We have also seen a significant increase in antisemitism on the platform. The Anti-Defamation League recently found that there was a “61.3% increase in the volume of tweets (excluding retweets) referencing ‘Jews’ or ‘Judaism’ with an antisemitic sentiment” since you became CEO. Simultaneously, Twitter has decreased its content moderation, as researchers found that Twitter went from “taking action on 60% of antisemitic tweets to taking action on only 30%.” We are glad to see you have suspended Ye’s account following his antisemitic posts, but this step must be paired with further decisive and preventative action from your platform.
We find the rise of extremist actors and hate speech on Twitter demonstrably at odds with your company’s statement that human safety is a “top priority”. And despite your assertion that there has been a decline in “hate speech impressions” from the “pre-spike levels,” you have not provided data showing how you are measuring hate speech that would allow outside researchers to validate your assessment. In direct contrast, CCDH’s social media analytic tools found that the number of tweets containing slurs and engagements are still above the average 2022 levels. It appears that a byproduct of your company’s “embracing public testing” approach is harm to your users.
With rapidly changing and unclear policies on content moderation on Twitter, amid documented negative trends and public evidence, we are concerned about the individual and community harm arising from Twitter, including how that could spill from online into real life. We are seeking further information about your plans for content moderation and the capability of your workforce to implement and enforce your policies.
As part of our ongoing oversight efforts, we request answers to the following questions, as well as a briefing to discuss other areas of oversight:



What steps is your company taking in response to the recent rise in hate speech on your platform and how do you plan to make these decisions available to the public? Additionally, what is your timeline for rolling out any of these changes?
Your company has stated that human safety is a priority, but anti-LGBTQ rhetoric has increased since the Colorado Springs Shooting. We have also seen a distinct rise in antisemitism on the platform. What is Twitter’s plan to increase safety for its users, and more specifically the LGBTQ+ community and the Jewish community?
What is the current process for enforcing content moderation on your platform? How do you plan to make these processes transparent and available to the public and researchers?
With the recent drastic reduction in the number of Twitter employees, including specialist content moderators, engineers, and safety team members, what is your company’s current capability and capacity to handle the risks arising from the extreme rise in hate speech, hate actors and the growth of hate communities? What is the current risk-assessment process and response timeline for viral hate speech and disinformation?


Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
Adam Schiff
Mark Takano

Note that there is no concern expressed about Twitter's involvement with the FBI in slanting the information put out prior to the 2020 election, thus confirming yet again that disinformation is only a concern when it seems to damage liberals.

Adam Schiff on Twitter: "On Elon Musk's Twitter: - Slurs against Black people have tripled - Slurs against women are up 33% - Slurs against Jewish people are up 61% - And slurs against gay men are up 58% These numbers are abysmal – and unacceptable. Today, @RepMarkTakano and I are demanding action." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1600873302443970560?s=20&t=_DUR59LF6qa95fTAkaSF7Q)

Adam Schiff on Twitter: "On Elon Musk's Twitter: - Slurs against Black people have tripled - Slurs against women are up 33% - Slurs against Jewish people are up 61% - And slurs against gay men are up 58% These numbers are abysmal – and unacceptable. Today, @RepMarkTakano and I are demanding action." / Twitter



Well then put that in your pipe and smoke it!

To be fair, this is the link to a copy of the letter. I did not spot any demands in the letter itself.

https://schiff.house.gov/imo/media/doc/letter_to_twitter.pdf

yeah in the letter they just urge Musk to step up enforcement of it's hateful conduct policy

Twitter's policy on hateful conduct | Twitter Help (https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/hateful-conduct-policy)

There is a clear implied threat if he does not take action they approve of. I did not see them say pretty please do this .They demand to know what he will do as a remedy to what they perceive is hate speech on Twitter and how soon will it take.

They are doing so as Congressional Reps ,The Constitution is clear The 1st amendment prohibits Congress from abridging the freedom of speech,

They are doing so by pressuring Musk to bow to their will.

As the Cato Institute article states


Government officials can use informal pressure—bullying, threatening, and cajoling—to sway the decisions of private platforms and limit the publication of disfavored speech,The use of this informal pressure, known as jawboning, is growing.
Left unchecked, it threatens to become normalized as an extraconstitutional method of speech regulation.

Jawboning against Speech | Policy Commons (https://policycommons.net/artifacts/2675193/jawboning-against-speech/3698304/)

I just wonder how far away we are from Norway where people go to jail for three years for violating the state approved hate speech legislation. We should fight against this with vigor and tell the feds that they will not govern our free speech aside from traditional prohibitions against threats of violence or slander, or other traditional areas of law.

even there SCOTUS gave tremendous latitude. Advocating criminal conduct is constitutionally protected unless it is both "directed" at inciting "imminent lawless action" and "likely" to do so.

Brandenburg v. Ohio :: 395 U.S. 444 (1969) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center (https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/395/444/#tab-opinion-1948083)

Now Musk on his own suspended the artist formerly known as Kayne West for antisemitic comments .

Elon Musk suspends Ye's Twitter account after swastika post (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/02/elon-musk-suspends-yes-twitter-account-after-swastika-post.html)

Schiffhead has no authority to compel it .

the artist formerly known as Kayne WestIt just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

Adam Schiff on Twitter: "On Elon Musk's Twitter: - Slurs against Black people have tripled - Slurs against women are up 33% - Slurs against Jewish people are up 61% - And slurs against gay men are up 58% These numbers are abysmal – and unacceptable. Today, @RepMarkTakano and I are demanding action." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1600873302443970560?s=20&t=_DUR59LF6qa95fTAkaSF7Q)

Your claim is that Schiff demanded Musk to censor in his letter. He did not.


As the Cato Institute article states


Government officials can use informal pressure—bullying, threatening, and cajoling—to sway the decisions of private platforms and limit the publication of disfavored speech,The use of this informal pressure, known as jawboning, is growing.
Left unchecked, it threatens to become normalized as an extraconstitutional method of speech regulation.

Jawboning against Speech | Policy Commons (https://policycommons.net/artifacts/2675193/jawboning-against-speech/3698304/)

The Cato Institute also said this:

Ultimately, congressional rulemaking and the people’s selection of liberal, temperate officials remain the only reliable checks on this novel threat to free speech.

Cato's use of the word is in the classical liberalism sense and NOT the intolerant left's usurping of the word .

Cato's use of the word is in the classical liberalism sense and NOT the intolerant left's usurping of the word .Exactly correct. "Classical liberalism is a political tradition and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics; civil liberties under the rule of law with especial emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech." In other words, modern day conservatism.

Cato's use of the word is in the classical liberalism sense and NOT the intolerant left's usurping of the word .

You're probably right, but I'm learning from you to play fast and loose with the truth.

but I'm learning from you to play fast and loose with the truth.I had to laugh out loud at that one. I'll be gracious and not mention the incident that immediately came to mind.

latest instalment of the files reveals that Twitter was essentially an FBI PAID informant and collaborator . The FBI paid the company $3.4 million taxpayer monopoly bucks to do their bidding . It also reveals that besides James Baker ,other former FBI staff rotated into the ranks of the Twitter organization,

"In 2019 SCALE instituted a reimbursement program for our legal process response from the FBI," "Prior to the start of the program, Twitter chose not to collect under this statutory right of reimbursement for the time spent processing requests from the FBI."

SCALE is Twitter's 'Safety, Content, & Law Enforcement' team.
Michael Shellenberger on Twitter: "46. The FBI’s influence campaign may have been helped by the fact that it was paying Twitter millions of dollars for its staff time. “I am happy to report we have collected $3,415,323 since October 2019!” reports an associate of Jim Baker in early 2021. https://t.co/SmNse97QxK" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1604908670063906817)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkXH0RBVQAETJYj?format=png&name=smallTwitter’s Trust and Safety team was lead by Yoel Roth who led the company censor campaign.

Among some of the key Twitter employers who were former FBI was Kevin Michelena who did more than 12 years as an FBI intelligence analyst before coming to Twitter to work as a “Senior Corporate Security Analyst” in July 2021. Michael Bertrand spent 23 years with the FBI working in counterterrorism, internal investigations and as chief of staff to the agency’s top leaders before he joined Twitter. Karen Walsh spent more than 20 years at the FBI as a special agent focused on “Public-Private Sector Outreach.”She was hired by Twitter as director of corporate resilience .Doug Hunt was hired as a senior director at Twitter after spending 20 years at FBI . Vincent Lucero was hired as “Senior Security Manager.”after a 2 decade stint at the agency. Mark Jeroszewski went from a supervisory agent to Twitter's director of corporate security .

Michael Shellenberger on Twitter: "29. As of 2020, there were so many former FBI employees — "Bu alumni" — working at Twitter that they had created their own private Slack channel and a crib sheet to onboard new FBI arrivals. https://t.co/prVhPGohOC" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1604895371360374784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1604895371360374784%7Ctwgr% 5E48b588404492fc75ceec7846f24f0f0bbf37497a%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fmedia%2Ftw itter-files-part-7-fbi-doj-discredited-information-about-hunter-bidens-foreign-business-dealings)

Was Twitter a one off or did the agency also influence other media ?

The NY Posts reports that this was a coordinated effort by the FBI and other major media . They all met in September 2020 at the Aspen Institute(essentially a left wing sponsored think tank ;although they claim to be centrist ) to war game the release of Hunter Biden related news .

What is mysterious Aspen Institute and why did it hold Hunter Biden 'exercise'? (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/12/19/what-is-mysterious-aspen-institute-and-why-did-it-hold-hunter-biden-exercise/)


In a series of tweets Monday, independent journalist Michael Shellenberger posted confidential documents from the Aspen Institute’s September 2020 event, which he said was attended by Twitter’s then-head of trust and safety, Facebook’s head of security policy and top national security reporters from The New York Times and The Washington Post.The exercise by the “Aspen Digital Hack-and-Dump Working Group” involved an 11-day scenario in October 2020 that began with the imaginary release of falsified records related to Hunter Biden’s controversial employment by the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, which paid him (https://nypost.com/2021/05/26/hunter-bidens-ukraine-salary-was-cut-after-joe-biden-left-office/) as much as $1 million a year to serve on its board when his father was vice president.
“The goal was to shape how the media covered it — and how social media carried it,” Shellenberger wrote (https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1604896328453980160).
But the drill was put into practical use weeks later, when The Post broke the news (https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/) about Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop — which was either ignored or downplayed (https://nypost.com/2022/04/02/bill-maher-mocks-left-wing-media-for-reporting-on-hunter-biden-laptop/) by most mainstream news outlets and suppressed by both Twitter and Facebook



The exercise was organized by Vivian Schiller, a former top executive at National Public Radio, Twitter, The New York Times and NBC News, Shellenberger reported.

Elon To Stay As Twitter CEO After Counting Mail-In Votes | Babylon Bee (https://babylonbee.com/news/elon-to-stay-as-twitter-ceo-after-counting-mail-in-votes?utm_source=The%20Babylon%20Bee%20Newsletter&utm_medium=email)

Musk is going to step down as Twitter CEO after he finds a "suitable replacement". He will still own Twitter so all those bot votes against him means nothing .

The Babylon Bee article was hilarious.

Musk's latest move just illustrates what's wrong with the conservative movement in America. Just as he is in position to do some real good, he comes up with a ridiculous move to have a vote on him retaining his position, and to what end?

The tentacles of the abuse of power reached much farther than initially thought.


Substack writer Matt Taibbi released the latest installment of the "Twitter Files (https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-files-part-3-reveals-what-led-trumps-removal-social-media-platform)" on Christmas Eve, detailing that coordination between the tech giant and government agencies went way beyond the FBI (https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-files-part-6-reveals-fbis-ties-tech-giant). In a massive series of tweets, Taibbi insisted that the FBI was simply the "doorman to a vast program of social media surveillance and censorship, encompassing agencies across the federal government – from the State Department to the Pentagon to the CIA."
The journalist explained that Twitter had so many interactions with OGAs (or "other government agencies" as they are called in the tweets), the company couldn’t keep them all straight: He explained, "Twitter had so much contact with so many agencies that executives lost track. Is today the DOD, and tomorrow the FBI? Is it the weekly call, or the monthly meeting? It was dizzying."
This should concern every freedom respecting American. Sadly, it will not.

we live in a post constitutional country . The very things the Framers sought to construct safeguards against have eroded . As predicted the people prefer autocracy and plutocracy .

It seems to be the case. A government that takes care of us is preferred over a government that preserves freedom.

When Saul of Tarsus set out on his journey to Damascus the whole of the known world lay in bondage. There was one state, and it was Rome. There was one master for it all, and he was Tiberius Caesar.
Everywhere there was civil order, for the arm of the Roman law was long. Everywhere there was stability, in government and in society, for the centurions saw that it was so.
But everywhere there was something else, too. There was oppression—for those who were not the friends of Tiberius Caesar. There was the tax gatherer to take the grain from the fields and the flax from the spindle to feed the legions or to fill the hungry treasury from which divine Caesar gave largess to the people. There was the impressor to find recruits for the circuses. There were executioners to quiet those whom the Emperor proscribed. What was a man for but to serve Caesar?
There was the persecution of men who dared think differently, who heard strange voices or read strange manuscripts. There was enslavement of men whose tribes came not from Rome, disdain for those who did not have the familiar visage. And most of all, there was everywhere a contempt for human life. What, to the strong, was one man more or less in a crowded world?

Then, of a sudden, there was a light in the world, and a man from Galilee saying, Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s and unto God the things that are God’s.
And the voice from Galilee, which would defy Caesar, offered a new Kingdom in which each man could walk upright and bow to none but his God. Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. And he sent this gospel of the Kingdom of Man into the uttermost ends of the earth.
So the light came into the world and the men who lived in darkness were afraid, and they tried to lower a curtain so that man would still believe salvation lay with the leaders.
But it came to pass for a while in divers places that the truth did set man free, although the men of darkness were offended and they tried to put out the light. The voice said, Haste ye. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness come upon you, for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.
Along the road to Damascus the light shone brightly. But afterward Paul of Tarsus, too, was sore afraid. He feared that other Caesars, other prophets, might one day persuade men that man was nothing save a servant unto them, that men might yield up their birthright from God for pottage and walk no more in freedom.
Then might it come to pass that darkness would settle again over the lands and there would be a burning of books and men would think only of what they should eat and what they should wear, and would give heed only to new Caesars and to false prophets. Then might it come to pass that men would not look upward to see even a winter’s star in the East, and once more, there would be no light at all in the darkness.
And so Paul, the apostle of the Son of Man, spoke to his brethren, the Galatians, the words he would have us remember afterward in each of the years of his Lord:
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ has made us free and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

'In Hoc Anno Donini' written 1949 by Vermont Royster editor of WSJ from 1958-1971

In hoc anno domini | Commentary | bgdailynews.com (https://www.bgdailynews.com/opinion/commentary/in-hoc-anno-domini/article_40452a78-3c29-549d-ba43-9800201b28e4.html)

Well said. As Christians, our first allegiance is to Christ and not to government. Our first dependence is on God and not the state. Our primary moral responsibility is to His Word and not the renderings of man. Those who disagree often are not content to simply tell us to go our way while they go theirs. They want conformity, and that's where the confrontations occur.

Hope everyone has a great Christmas.

Those who disagree often are not content to simply tell us to go our way while they go theirs. They want conformity, and that's where the confrontations occur. excellent reply .

Matt Taibbi ; Lee Fang, and Michael Shellenberger have been the trio pouring over the Twitter files and releasing them . Taibbi wrote this in a year end message to his readers . He says further revelations will show that it is not just Twitter and the FBI . There is an unholy alliance between most of the major big tech companies and the whole alphabet soup leviathan .
Facebook is riddled with ex-CIA agents while many ex-FBI agents work at Twitter | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562433/Facebook-riddled-ex-CIA-agents-ex-FBI-agents-work-Twitter.html)

He says some of it is coercion. But the major players were content with the arrangement .
He writes
Sometime in the last decade, many people — I was one — began to feel robbed of their sense of normalcy by something we couldn’t define. Increasingly glued to our phones, we saw that the version of the world that was spat out at us from them seemed distorted. The public’s reactions to various news events seemed off-kilter, being either way too intense, not intense enough, or simply unbelievable. You’d read that seemingly everyone in the world was in agreement that a certain thing was true, except it seemed ridiculous to you, which put you in an awkward place with friends, family, others. Should you say something? Are you the crazy one?I can’t have been the only person to have struggled psychologically during this time. This is why these Twitter files have been such a balm. This is the reality they stole from us! It’s repulsive, horrifying, and dystopian, a gruesome history of a world run by anti-people, but I’ll take it any day over the vile and insulting facsimile of truth they’ve been selling. Notes on a Friday Night - TK News by Matt Taibbi (substack.com) (https://taibbi.substack.com/p/notes-on-a-friday-night)

It will all be largely swept under the rug by the left-wing media. Fox and a few others will give it the attention it deserves, but as can be seen by the awkward silence of the three or four liberals on this site, we are now at a place where any and all government offenses are acceptable so long as it works against Trump.

Twitter files new topic is their suppression of any information about covid that went counter to the approved narrative . Musk revealed yesterday that internally Twitter employeess had a slack channel called 'Fauci Fan Club' .

Musk also commented that Almost no one seems to realize that the head of bioethics at NIH – the person who is supposed to make sure that Fauci behaves ethically – is his wife

That would be Christine Grady

No conflict of interests there .

Musk also commented that Almost no one seems to realize that the head of bioethics at NIH – the person who is supposed to make sure that Fauci behaves ethically – is his wifeEven for the current administration, that is pretty wild.

What is sadly remarkable in this case is that it's clear the FBI, along with other agencies, actively and clandestinely worked behind the scenes to secure Trump's defeat in 2020, and yet nothing will be done about it. There is no national furor, and no one will be held accountable.

Judicial Watch has filed a FOIA lawsuit to obtain information about Grady's work and her potential involvement in censorship of pandemic information


NIH has been hiding Ms. Grady’s emails for almost a year in violation of FOIA law. This is the very definition of a cover-up. The unlawful cover-ups of Fauci family government records strongly suggest that there is something to hide.
Another Fauci Cover-Up! | Judicial Watch (https://www.judicialwatch.org/another-fauci-cover-up/)

Judicial Watch has filed a FOIA lawsuit to obtain information about Grady's work and her potential involvement in censorship of pandemic information

NIH has been hiding Ms. Grady’s emails for almost a year in violation of FOIA law. This is the very definition of a cover-up. The unlawful cover-ups of Fauci family government records strongly suggest that there is something to hide.
Another Fauci Cover-Up! | Judicial Watch (https://www.judicialwatch.org/another-fauci-cover-up/)

Judicial Watch is a notorious far-right website filled with failed fact checks and extreme right-wing in its coverage. The organization is primarily involved in filing FOIA requests which supply headlines and result in little else.

Christine Grady is the well-respected and highly accomplished Director of Bioethics at NIH. She has a PhD in Philosophy from Georgetown University and a Master's Degree in Nursing from Boston College. Grady has worked in nursing, clinical research, and clinical care, with a specialization in HIV. She was a Commissioner on the Presidential Commission for the Study of BioEthics from 2010 and 2017.

Grady is a member of the National Academy of Medicine, a senior fellow at the Kennedy Institute of Ethics, and a fellow of The Hastings Center and American Academy of Nursing. She received the National Institutes of Health CEO Award in 2017 and the Director's Award from the same organization in 2015 and 2017.

This is the calibre of person Judicial Watch is attacking.

Christine Grady is the well-respected and highly accomplished Director of Bioethics at NIH. She has a PhD in Philosophy from Georgetown University and a Master's Degree in Nursing from Boston College. Grady has worked in nursing, clinical research, and clinical care, with a specialization in HIV. She was a Commissioner on the Presidential Commission for the Study of BioEthics from 2010 and 2017.

Grady is a member of the National Academy of Medicine, a senior fellow at the Kennedy Institute of Ethics, and a fellow of The Hastings Center and American Academy of Nursing. She received the National Institutes of Health CEO Award in 2017 and the Director's Award from the same organization in 2015 and 2017.Which of those makes it ethically appropriate for her to be providing oversight of her husband???

NIH was funding Gain of Function research at Wuhan. Maybe someone else not so close to Herr Doctor could've told him that it was dangerous and unethical . Maybe someone not so close to him couldve told him that there was something ethically challenging for him and his wife to profit from the pandemic Their net worth rose from $7.6 million in 2019 to over $12.6 million by December 2021.

Fauci's net worth jumped $5 million during COVID, per report | WNWO (nbc24.com) (https://nbc24.com/news/nation-world/faucis-net-worth-jumped-5-million-during-covid-per-report-anthony-doctor-niaid-national-institute-infectious-diseases-five)

NIH was funding Gain of Function research at Wuhan.

Not true. NIH has formally denied funding gain-of-function research at Wuhan.

https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/statements/statement-misinformation-about-nih-support-specific-gain-function-research


Maybe someone else not so close to Herr Doctor could've told him that it was dangerous and unethical

Stop watching Tucker Carlson with his taking half-truths and assigning nefarious false motives to them. Even FOX is becoming embarrassed by his over-the-top “reporting”.

Forbes listed Dr. Fauci and his wife's, also Dr. Fauci, finances as follows:

Investments 795K. These funds were held in a mix of trust, retirement, and college education accounts. Fauci has an IRA worth $638,519 (up $42,291); a defined benefit brokerage account totaling $2,403,522 (up $241,418); and a revocable trust worth $5,295,898 (up $342,694). His wife’s revocable trust is worth $1,962,819 (up $156,123) and an IRA totaling $120,277 (up $11,843).

Salaries 668K, perks and pension benefits 200K, royalties and professional reimbursements 100K, gifts and travel reimbursement 13K.

During the pandemic year of 2020, their household income, perks and benefits, and unrealized gains totaled $1,776,479
The Fauci household’s net worth exceeds $10.4 million.

You say that in 2020, "The Fauci household’s net worth exceeds $10.4 million." Tom said it was over 12.6 million at the end of 2021. How are those two statements contradictory?

So Tucker Carlson works for NBC now? I ask that because Tom's link was to an NBC affiliate and not to FoxNews.

Open the books is non-partisan watchdog organization who's reports have been featured on multiple media sites .

Open the books is non-partisan watchdog organization who's reports have been featured on multiple media sites .

You are correct. My error.

It is estimated that the 2 political parties spent about $5 billion in the 2020 Presidential campaign . A lot of money right ?

That is chump change to how much money Herr Doctor controlled . The National Institute of Health (NIH) ;a blanket government organization largely controlled by Herr Doctor at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) shelled out $30 billion in research grants in 2020 .

Impact of NIH Research | National Institutes of Health (NIH) (https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/what-we-do/impact-nih-research)

To put it in perspective . That is more money spent in research grants than the entire Canadian government spends.
That bought Herr Doctor tremendous influence over the scientific and medical community ..... grant money being the mother's milk of their existence .

Dr Paul Alexander worked closely with Herr Doctor as the Senior Pandemic Advisor to the COVID-19 Task Force. He often prepped Fauci for testimony before Congress. (something Politico claims was "muzzling " Fauci )

Emails show HHS official trying to muzzle Fauci - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/09/emails-show-hhs-muzzle-fauci-410861)


But he ran afoul of Fauci
He wrote an email that evidence showed children were not at serious risk from covid and should be back in the classrooms, rather than getting their education over ZOOM. In a lengthy explanation of the benefits of having the children exposed to covid he wrote“we want them infected”.

Under Herr Doctor's direction this was leaked .Fauci was angry that Alexander's opinion was counter to Fauci's directives to shut schools down.

Since then Alexander has been a sorta whistle blower . He will be called on during any future Congressional hearings pertaining to the government's response to covid and Herr Doctor's direction of the pandemic

The whole business of basically shutting down schools was a serious mistake that is, to this day, difficult to defend. That children were academically injured as shown to be clearly true by the latest batch of NAEP scores which plummeted for the first time in about twenty years. You would hope that someone would be held responsible, but I'm sure that's too much to hope for.

It is estimated that the 2 political parties spent about $5 billion in the 2020 Presidential campaign . A lot of money right ?

That is chump change to how much money Herr Doctor controlled .

Geez, Tom, you'll do anything, say anything, compare anything, to heap abuse on that wonderful American Dr. Fauci, graduate of the renowned high school Regis High School in New York City where the good doctor was also Captain of the basketball team even tho he's only 5'7" - point guards were smaller back then.

How about this - compared to all the wealth, portable or not, that was created since man came down from the trees, Dr. Fauci's 30B doesn't even rate as chump change. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

How about this - compared to all the wealth, portable or not, that was created since man came down from the trees, Dr. Fauci's 30B doesn't even rate as chump change. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.This is exactly the kind of attitude that produces multi-hundred billion dollar deficits. "It's merely 30 billion. No big deal." It's the normal thinking of modern pols, foolishly tolerated, and even endorsed, by the non-thinking crowd. It is only made possible by the use of borrowed/printed money, thus giving the taxpayer the benefit with no pain involved...for now.


"A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money." Everett Dirksen

What the $30 billion gave him is tremendous control over how the money was allocated. . That largess of taxpayer money buys a lot of favor and clout within the scientific, research, and healthcare industries.Herr doctor received royalties from his directing of how tax payer money was allocated . That on top of the fact that he was already the top paid government employee + 23 royalties' payments)

He made $1.7 million in salaries; royalties and investment income in 2020.
Disclosures Show Dr. Fauci’s Household Made $1.7 Million In 2020, Including Income, Royalties, Travel Perks And Investment Gains (forbes.com) (https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2022/01/15/disclosures-released-dr-fauci-household-profits-exceeded-17-million-in-2020--included-income-royalties-travel-perks-and-investment-gains/?sh=5360be1a7d5f)

He and his wife's income grew by $5 million in the covid years from $7.5 million in 2019 to $12.6 million at the end of 2021,

BREAKING: Fauci’s Net Worth Soared To $12.6+ Million During Pandemic – Up $5 Million (2019-2021) (substack.com) (https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/breaking-faucis-net-worth-soared)

Not a bad return for a government bureaucrat .

He profited mightily while he advised 2 Presidents to trash the economy to stop the spread .

He profited mightily while he advised 2 Presidents to trash the economy to stop the spread .Fear can be a powerful weapon.

He profited mightily while he advised 2 Presidents to trash the economy to stop the spread .
What would you have advised?

What would you have advised?

If the doctor had been a sycophant for Trump's right wing, how Tom's tune would have changed.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3888066#post3888066)
He profited mightily while he advised 2 Presidents to trash the economy to stop the spread .



What would you have advised?

You have to ask ? I was and am an advocate of herd immunity .


Bail Out and stimulus BS (askmehelpdesk.com) (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=847445&p=3850189#post3850189)

The virus has and will continue to go through the population until herd immunity is established with or without a vaccine .

Trump Self-Medicating on Hydroxychloroquine - Page 2 (askmehelpdesk.com) (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=847488&page=2&p=3853234#post3853234)

All you need to do it look at the China example . They enforced zero covid since the virus was created in Wuhan . Now they are opening up and the people have not experienced exposure to the virus . The results were predictable .

China Covid Outbreak Overwhelms Crematoriums With Bodies Seen Piling Up - Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-03/bodies-pile-up-in-china-as-covid-surge-overwhelms-crematoriums?leadSource=uverify%20wall)

You have to ask ? I was and am an advocate of herd immunity .
It's okay to watch friends and neighbors and family members needlessly die for government's lack of interest in a medical solution or even of advice?

There was no lack of interest . Neighbors and friends died despite their efforts. They also wrecked the economy and cause more misery . That is on them .

Herr Dcotor cared so much that he funded the gain of function research that caused the pandemic

There was no lack of interest . Neighbors and friends died despite their efforts. They also wrecked the economy and cause more misery . That is on them .

Herr Dcotor cared so much that he funded the gain of function research that caused the pandemic
No! Had the government expressed NO interest!

As I said, It's okay to watch friends and neighbors and family members needlessly die for government's lack of interest in a medical solution or even of advice?

What are you talking about ? The government acted and in doing so wrecked the economy . They locked us down ;kept kids out of school even though it was clear they were low risk .

Yes they gave us a rushed through the process vaccine .. Results are inconclusive



It isn’t clear that XBB is any more lethal than other variants, but its mutations enable it to evade antibodies from prior infection and vaccines as well as existing monoclonal antibody treatments. Growing evidence also suggests that repeated vaccinations may make people more susceptible to XBB and could be fueling the virus’s rapid evolution.

Are Vaccines Fueling New Covid Variants? - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/are-vaccines-fueling-new-covid-variants-xbb-northeast-antibodies-mutation-strain-immune-imprinting-11672483618)

It was always clear that the risk to otherwise healthy children was near zero, so shutting down active teaching for the great majority of kids was a dumb, dumb decision. And even now there are still some systems that want to mandate children wearing paper masks even when it has been clearly demonstrated that they do practically no good whatsoever.

Looking back on it all, it seems obvious that much of the decision-making was driven by unwarranted fear, much of it caused by a news media anxious for ratings.


If the doctor had been a sycophant for Trump's right wing, how Tom's tune would have changed.Pot...kettle.

What are you talking about ?
You aren't reading my posts correctly. What if the government had NOT lifted a finger to do anything about covid, had just ignored it?

And the concern wasn't for the students as much as it was for the adults on staff -- teachers, principals, custodians, etc.

Herr Dcotor cared so much that he funded the gain of function research that caused the pandemic

Absolutely untrue.


You aren't reading my posts correctly.

Par for the course.


What if the government had NOT lifted a finger to do anything about covid, had just ignored it?

Don't expect an honest answer.

What if the government had NOT lifted a finger to do anything about covid, had just ignored it?

impossible to answer that question . I only know what happened . I can suggest that if the government had acted by concentrating on protecting the most vulnerable than there would not have been thousands of needless deaths at nursing homes. But that would've been a government action.

impossible to answer that question . I only know what happened .
I gather you would have preferred the government keep its nose out of the covid scare.

wrong . I would've preferred they did not over react by shutting down the econony ;by denying a generation of children a proper education for 2 years + . What the Federal and State governments did was do more harm than good by this thinking that they had to do something regardless of how dracotnian it was .

China did "something " when they locked down the country until now . What happened is that in that time ;the Chinese did not develop immunity and now 9,000 Chinese are dying each day from covid .

I supported some of out government actions . I supported the travel bans that went into effect early in the pandemic. I supported the flatten the curve initiative until it turned out to be completely ineffective . But the governments doubled down on them and ran the country like dictators .

Sweden never ordered a "shutdown" ;kept day care centers and primary schools open. , Swedes could be seen chatting in cafés and working out at the gym while the rest of the western world turned into ghost towns , Swedes were trusted to use their own judgment . Swedish authorities actively discouraged people from wearing face masks, which they said would spread panic, are often worn the wrong way, and can provide a false sense of safety. Sweden's official policy stated people without obvious symptoms are unlikely to spread the virus. So instead of being quarantined or asked to stay home, children attend school and show up for work, unless they had symptoms themselves.

They of course had sick and dead from the virus . But those numbers were in line with the rest of the western world . It was a holistic approach that balanced the threat of the virus against the damage that would be done by over reacting .

The same agency that called Hunter Biden's laptop disinformation is calling the release of the Twitter files misinformation

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FklOzXDagAAhdxV?format=jpg&name=small

The Twitter files related to censorship of covid information not approved of by Herr Doctor will be released this week . I'm sure it will be met with the ususal response by the left .

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gandhiji%27s_Three_Monkeys.JPG/220px-Gandhiji%27s_Three_Monkeys.JPG

If you care to read a preview ;there is a series of postings by David Zweig on government suppression of covid information already . Fauci's involvement is to be released later

David Zweig on Twitter: "1. THREAD: THE TWITTER FILES: HOW TWITTER RIGGED THE COVID DEBATE – By censoring info that was true but inconvenient to U.S. govt. policy – By discrediting doctors and other experts who disagreed – By suppressing ordinary users, including some sharing the CDC’s *own data*" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/davidzweig/status/1607378386338340867)

Thank you for posting this. It should be of great concern to us all.


"and how execs rewrote the platform’s rules to accommodate their own political desires." It's the real story of Trump's loss in 2020.

A new study out of Germany, funded by the German government, and published in the medical journal 'Science Immunology', suggests the mRNA vaccines, reduces a person’s level of antibodies that fight covid and increases the level of another kind of antibody that is much less effective at fighting the virus.
Class switch towards non-inflammatory, spike-specific IgG4 antibodies after repeated SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination | Science Immunology (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798)

By using these mRNA vaccines we are ridding our bodies of the most competent antibodies against this virus, and replacing them with antibodies less effective....ones used to tolerate allergens ;not fight viruses .

The vaccine is training your body to tolerate the virus ;not fight it .


It usually takes years of research before vaccines are approved . That lessens the chance of unintended consequences that come from a rush to market .

And yet both the woke military and many, many school systems are attempting to compel people to take these vaccines. Quite a number of military personnel are now ex-military personnel.

and remember . The vaccine manufacturers already admitted that there was no research to support the claim that the vaccines prevented transmission. Pfizer never claimed to have studied it . It was a contention by our government medical gurus made without any scientific support .

The same agency that called Hunter Biden's laptop disinformation is calling the release of the Twitter files misinformation

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FklOzXDagAAhdxV?format=jpg&name=small

I notice you failed to present the FBI statement, just dissed it without a by-your-leave.

Here's part of it:


"The correspondence between the FBI and Twitter show nothing more than examples of our traditional, longstanding and ongoing federal government and private sector engagements, which involve numerous companies over multiple sectors and industries," the law enforcement agency said on Wednesday in a statement (https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1605655653187432448) provided toFox News. "As evidenced in this correspondence, the FBI provides critical information to the private sector in an effort to protect themselves and their customers. The men and women of the FBI work every day to protect the American public."


"It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency," the agency added.


The "Twitter Files" are filled with half-truths, disinformation, misinformation and reflect Musk's desperate attempts to retrieve his $44B which he so foolishly spent and now wants back.

The "Twitter Files" are filled with half-truths, disinformation, misinformation and reflect Musk's desperate attempts to retrieve his $44B which he so foolishly spent and now wants back.I wonder if the FBI would have any reason to lie about an attempt to swing the 2020 election to a democrat? Perhaps you put it very well. "...just dissed it without a by-your-leave." After all, a fed agency working against Trump by encouraging the ignoring of a major news story that would have been harmful to the Biden campaign just couldn't have happened, could it?

longstanding and ongoing federal government and private sector engagements,

yes that is what they would call it . I would call it coercion That was from no fan of Trump Twitters'Trust and Safety head Yoel Roth . He resisted the bureau’s efforts to coerce the platform into providing user data outside of the normal search-warrant process.

Michael Shellenberger on Twitter: "18. It's not the first time that Twitter's Roth has pushed back against the FBI. In January 2020, Roth resisted FBI efforts to get Twitter to share data outside of the normal search warrant process. https://t.co/NAssnLMpds" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1604888013422485505?s=20&t=vKSmk4k3QpID17b6a_bH-g)

To put it in context ; Roth was a key decision maker in so called "content moderation" that disproportionately censored right wing political thought. He led the censoring of the NY Post's story about Hunter Biden's laptop . He resigned when Musk took over the company .

Musk's decision was to be transparent . You have no basis for calling it half-truths, disinformation, misinformation .I'd like to see your evidence for that claim . The Twitter files being released are direct internal communications inside the company .

Read what Ross Barkan of the liberal publication 'The Nation ' says about the Twitter files and the real threat of government outsourcing the suppression of Free Speech and thought .
Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Twitter Files? | The Nation (https://www.thenation.com/article/society/elon-musk-twitter-files/)

Liberals didn’t care in 2020 because the New York Post is Rupert Murdoch’s toy. But what if a future Republican administration pressures Musk or anyone to start locking the account of The New York Times? The Washington Post? The possibilities for abuse are endless. The Twitter Files, at the minimum, should push us closer to reckoning with the gravity of these unsettling questions.

Musk's decision was to be transparent . You have no basis for calling it half-truths, disinformation, misinformation .I'd like to see your evidence for that claim Great observation. Great request for evidence.

You have no basis for calling it half-truths, disinformation, misinformation .I'd like to see your evidence for that claim .

Let's start with this one. Others as time allows.

Schellenberger tweeted that the FBI was paying Twitter millions of dollars for help with its "influence campaign". He quoted an associate that, "I am happy to report we have collected $3,415,323 since October 2019!”

Next is right from your website;


latest instalment of the files reveals that Twitter was essentially an FBI PAID informant and collaborator . The FBI paid the company $3.4 million taxpayer monopoly bucks to do their bidding.

The first example is a gross example of disinformation distorted as a half-truth. The second example is an absolute lie.

The actual truth was that the FBI reimbursed Twitter for its expenses in complying with requests for information from Twitter. This is a statutory rule requiring the FBI to reimburse private companies for their expenses. It is done with all private companies, not just Twitter.

It was grossly misrepresented as a "payoff" for successfully bribing Twitter to gain influence.


The Twitter files being released are direct internal communications inside the company .

You only have Musk's word for that. Taibbi has admitted that he had to agree to "conditions" to be a recipient of Musk's plan. Musk had admitted that he is sending selected files, not all the files.

Your posts here re Twitter Files are dense and almost unreadable. Rather than c/p (which is sometimes necessary for lengthy info), you should try to digest the info and present it in manageable sections.

It is also necessary to vet the "Twitter Files" - if you don't, you wind up with sloppy research and false conclusions like occurred in the examples cited above.

It is done with all private companies, not just Twitter.
That is correct . They did not ONLY use Twitter to suppress speech .Matt Taibbi reported, “the government was in constant contact not just with Twitter, but with every major tech firm.” There’s no reason to think that has stopped. Twitter is small potatoes compared to Google and Fakebook. Maybe some day those companies will also open up about the government campaign to pressure social media ;the town square of the 21st century ;to suppress speech ,thought and association .


Taibbi has admitted that he had to agree to "conditions" to be a recipient of Musk's plan


The sole condition he agreed to was to do the reporting on Twitter's platform. I agree that regrettably it makes it a much tougher read given the restrictions on words per Tweet . I would prefer to read them in an essay. But the fact is that the truth about government censorship by proxy is finally being revealed .

To me Musk was the man of the year .

Yes Musk is the man of the year. He has sacrificed $10s of billions of his own wealth to protect free speech in a country where the Constitution explicitly prohibits the government from the censorship they have engaged in now for a number of years . Musk used to be the darling of the tree hugger crowd . He invested a fortune in the development of the "green " technologies they lust . If not for Musk there would be no American transportation of astronauts and supplies to the ISS .

Now the same lefties who used to be the champions of freedom of speech vilify him for outing bad actors in the intel and law enforcement agencies ;and in Silicon Valley. The nation owes him a debt of gratitude.
It is stunning to think that the left used to believe McCarthyism was a national threat ;and now completely embrace it's concepts and tactics.

It is my hope that others with the means get a sense of the liberty that was in the founders of the country . They too risked their fortunes in the pursuit of freedom.

The censorship that the government actively engaged in at Twitter and other Big Tech platforms not only hurt the specific person targeted. It also is a First Amendment violation against the intended audience. In fact, that is where the main damage is done.

SCOTUS made that point clear in 1976 'Virginia Board of Pharmacy v. Virginia Citizens Consumer Council '


In a 7-to-1 opinion, the Court held that the First Amendment protects willing speakers and willing listeners equally.

Virginia State Board of Pharmacy v. Virginia Citizens Consumer Council, Inc. | Oyez (https://www.oyez.org/cases/1975/74-895)

1973 Norwood v. Harrison SCOTUS held that the government "may not induce, encourage or promote private persons to accomplish what it is constitutionally forbidden to accomplish."

This is not just true of Twitter . The government pressure on social media to restrict so called harmful content is also a clear violation . It is questionable how much censoring is voluntary and how much is induced by government pressure .

These Tech companies get a double barrel of it when government intel and law enforcement pressure them . They also are getting it from Congress demanding so called moderation.

more Backpage v Dart 2015 commentary on lib 'Slate ' magazine


Although Posner spends much of his opinion ridiculing Dart’s attempt to repackage his legal coercion as counseling from a concerned citizen, the core of his decision reaffirms two key First Amendment principles. The first is that government agents cannot replace outright censorship with “official bullying” in order to slip past the strictures of the Constitution.......

The second First Amendment principle at stake here is the right of websites to curate and organize information free from government constraint. Section 230 (https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/230) of the Communications Decency Act already protects websites from liability when users post illegal material. But what about the more basic right of Backpage (and websites like Yelp and Google (http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/11/are_google_results_free_speech_protected_by_the_fi rst_amendment.html)) to assemble, classify, and publish vast amounts of data as they see fit? The Supreme Court has suggested (http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/10-779.pdf) that the transmission of information is a type of speech—which seems especially true on Backpage, where information is conveyed through expression. Does the First Amendment really permit the government to pressure websites into removing information it doesn’t like?
For Posner, the answer is a vehement no. His decision is a definitive rejoinder to officials like Dart, who cloak censorial intentions (shutting down adult ads) in the garb of a noble battle (stemming sex trafficking). We might stop a lot of crimes by permitting censorship of the Internet, trading our First Amendment freedoms for the vague promise of greater safety. Posner’s response to this temptation is one worth taking to heart: The trade-off isn’t worth it.


Backpage v. Dart: A judge smacks down a sheriff’s intimidation campaign against adult ads. (slate.com) (https://slate.com/technology/2015/12/backpage-v-dart-a-judge-smacks-down-a-sheriffs-intimidation-campaign-against-adult-ads.html)

How are the first two descriptions significantly different from the last one? Why would it take 3.5 mil for Twitter to essentially send some information to the FBI? Why would Twitter need to do that to begin with?

Schellenberger tweeted that the FBI was paying Twitter millions of dollars for help with its "influence campaign". He quoted an associate that, "I am happy to report we have collected $3,415,323 since October 2019!”

latest instalment of the files reveals that Twitter was essentially an FBI PAID informant and collaborator . The FBI paid the company $3.4 million taxpayer monopoly bucks to do their bidding.



The actual truth was that the FBI reimbursed Twitter for its expenses in complying with requests for information from Twitter.If Twitter was paid to supply information to the FBI, then in what way was it not a "PAID informant and collaborator"?

The censorship that the government actively engaged in at Twitter and other Big Tech platforms not only hurt the specific person targeted. It also is a First Amendment violation against the intended audience

There was no government censorship and no violation of the First Amendment.

It's ok for you to believe that, but you need a court case or something legal to prove it.


They did not ONLY use Twitter to suppress speech .Matt Taibbi reported, “the government was in constant contact not just with Twitter, but with every major tech firm.None of that is a violation of the First Amendment.

Taibbi tweeted “there’s no evidence — that I’ve seen” that the federal government had a role in suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story, but that “the decision was made at the highest levels of the company


The sole condition he agreed to was to do the reporting on Twitter's platform.

Taibbi wrote. "What I can say is that in exchange for the opportunity to cover a unique and explosive story, I had to agree to certain conditions."

Taibbi wrote. "What I can say is that in exchange for the opportunity to cover a unique and explosive story, I had to agree to certain conditions."


The quote you give is from December 2 That information is out of date

I can't give you the exact quote because it is on Taibbi's TK substack which is a subscription paywall that I don't subscribe to .
He gave the conditions he was working under on December 10 . He said he did NOT give up any editorial control and that he had to agree to publish only on Twitter's platform .

Note to Readers on the "Twitter Files" (substack.com) (https://taibbi.substack.com/p/note-to-readers-on-the-twitter-files?r=5mz1&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web)



Maybe with more digging I will find someone who did a c/p of his published comment on TK


However ;co-author Bari Weiss made a Tweet on December8 that spelled out the condition Musk gave them .


28. The authors have broad and expanding access to Twitter’s files. The only condition we agreed to was that the material would first be published on Twitter.

Bari Weiss on Twitter: "28. The authors have broad and expanding access to Twitter’s files. The only condition we agreed to was that the material would first be published on Twitter." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601026062887972864)


https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3888135#post3888135)
They did not ONLY use Twitter to suppress speech .Matt Taibbi reported, “the government was in constant contact not just with Twitter, but with every major tech firm.



None of that is a violation of the First Amendment.

I gave 3 court cases that says otherwise . Censorship by the government through proxies is still censorship and a 1st amendment violation .

Censorship by the government through proxies is still censorship and a 1st amendment violation .Even if it wasn't, it should still be a major alarm bell for anyone who values freedom. To simply blow it off as not violating the first amendment smacks of partisanship on a high level.

The quote you give is from December 2 That information is out of date

I can't give you the exact quote because it is on Taibbi's TK substack which is a subscription paywall that I don't subscribe to .

Ok, fair enough. Not to bother researching the issue.


I gave 3 court cases that says otherwise

You gave past cases, not current cases on the specific issue.

what do the Dems like to call it ? oh yeah 'stare decisis ' The Virginia case was 7-1 decided by one of the most liberal courts in history ,the Marshall court . Norwood was a unanimous decision . Backpage was an appellate decision in the 7th circuit which is basically the lib Chi-town district court .

But then that was the 1970s when lib Dems believed in civil liberties . I just have to wonder how the current court progressives would see things like protecting the bill of rights . Are they national statists like the Dems who nominated them ?

what do the Dems like to call it ? oh yeah 'stare decisis

Do you mean like in Roe v Wade where the Trump appointees outright lied in their confirmation hearings re "stare"?

ok I look forward to the case when the FBI has to disclose in discovery how they were exposed by their 2016 election interference .

So they embedded the machinery of their manipulation into the private sector .
The incorporation of the intel and law enforcement agencies with Big Tech ;progressive think tanks ; and the compliant press makes it a behemoth that is the real threat to liberty in this country .

$3.5 million US taxpayer money was paid to Twitter alone to manipulate the outcome of the 2020 elections . And Twitter is but one of the companies they coerced .

And that is just the FBI . The Twitter files have so far only dealt with the FBI and to a lesser extent the CIA . Other agencies roles that have been briefly mentioned like DHS's 'Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency' (CISA) played important roles too .

CISA was set up to "protect" infrastructure from cyberattack. But they expanded the definition of infrastructure to include the election process. Instead of concentrating on threats like Russian malware ;they became cyber-censors who's bigger concerns was tweets about the integrity of mail in voting .


Michael Benz a former State Dept official, now the executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online tweeted


Chris Krebs, as CISA censorship czar at DHS, deputized disinformation flagging to the Atlantic Council, whose London-based team censored US opinions about mail-in ballots in 2020.Atlantic Council has 7 living CIA directors currently on its board:


Mike Benz on Twitter: "Chris Krebs, as CISA censorship czar at DHS, deputized disinformation flagging to the Atlantic Council, whose London-based team censored US opinions about mail-in ballots in 2020. Atlantic Council has 7 living CIA directors currently on its board: https://t.co/vmZKSCztbs" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1605702916790165511)



The size, scale and speed of DHS's censorship operation are vastly larger have been reported. Based on our investigation, below are seven bottom-line figures summarizing the scope of censorship carried out by DHS speech control partners (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNe4MJ351wU), as compiled from their own reports and videos:



22 Million (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=201) tweets labeled “misinformation” on Twitter;
859 Million (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=201) tweets collected in databases for “misinformation” analysis;
120 analysts (https://rumble.com/v1kopht-eip-120-people-huge-teams-behind-each-of-us.html) monitoring social media “misinformation” in up to 20-hour (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=28) shifts;
15 (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=283) tech platforms monitored for “misinformation” often in real-time;
<1 hour (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=57) average response time between government partners and tech platforms;
Dozens (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=65) of “misinformation narratives” targeted for platform-wide throttling; and
Hundreds of millions of individual Facebook posts, YouTube videos, TikToks, and tweets impacted, due to “misinformation”


Terms of Service policy changes that DHS partners openly plotted and bragged (https://rumble.com/v1lzhvy-eip-bragging-that-they-pushed-the-envelope-on-censorship-policies-threat-of.html) tech companies would never have done without DHS partner insistence and “huge regulatory pressure” from government.


The citations above are from just the DHS censorship network’s impact on the 2020 election cycle alone. That was two years ago, when the narrative management machine referenced by The Intercept was first getting formed. Even the above figures, however, just scratch the surface of the full story.

While The Intercept rightly noted that DHS's “truth cops“ now take on a range of other topics – such as Covid-19 and geopolitical opinions – it all started (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/elections-critical-infrastructure-homeland-security-233304) from, and grew out of, DHS's speech control infrastructure set up to censor speech about elections.
That started with the 2020 election. But it continues, importantly, with the 2022 midterm elections, which are ongoing this week.


DHS Censorship Agency Had Strange First Mission: Banning Speech That Casts Doubt On ‘Red Mirage, Blue Shift’ Election Events (foundationforfreedomonline.com) (https://foundationforfreedomonline.com/11-9-22.html)

In a couple of weeks of Twitter disclosures ,more has been done to expose the deep state interference in elections than was ever exposed by John Durham's 3 years of investigation.

It is no coincidence that James Baker ,the author of the FBI warrants to spy on the Trump campaign was later embedded in Twitter . His last act there was an attempt to censor the Twitter files being released .He was also hired by CNN as an analysist which tells you how deep the government has embedded into the private sector . CNN also just recently hired former Rep Adam Kinzinger who is noted as one of the 2 RINOs that were selected to be on the Jan 6 kangaroo court .

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3888150#post3888150)
what do the Dems like to call it ? oh yeah 'stare decisis



Do you mean like in Roe v Wade where the Trump appointees outright lied in their confirmation hearings re "stare"?

All nominees lie in the confirmation process. They learned that after Robert Bork told the truth and was mercilessly trashed .

Stare does not apply to cases that were wrongly decided . If that were not so then Plessy would be the law of the land .

The cases I cite support the 1st amendment freedoms . Those were but a few of the many such cases supporting basic liberty in a free society .

22 Million (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=201) tweets labeled “misinformation” on Twitter;
859 Million (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=201) tweets collected in databases for “misinformation” analysis;
120 analysts (https://rumble.com/v1kopht-eip-120-people-huge-teams-behind-each-of-us.html) monitoring social media “misinformation” in up to 20-hour (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=28) shifts;
15 (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=283) tech platforms monitored for “misinformation” often in real-time;
<1 hour (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=57) average response time between government partners and tech platforms;
Dozens (https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:tr171zs0069/EIP-Final-Report.pdf#page=65) of “misinformation narratives” targeted for platform-wide throttling; and
Hundreds of millions of individual Facebook posts, YouTube videos, TikToks, and tweets impacted, due to “misinformation”

I can hardly wait to see what kind of excuse is put forward for this.



Do you mean like in Roe v Wade where the Trump appointees outright lied in their confirmation hearings re "stare"?I don't think that's true. All appointees will defer giving a legal opinion on cases that could potentially appear before the court, a practice that, as Tom pointed out, began with the shameful treatment of R. Bork by Senate dems. But one way or the other, that's not lying. A.C. Barrett went to great lengths to point out that a handful of court decisions were in the category of "super precedents" that were not expected to ever change, but that Roe was not one of them. That was not simply her opinion. She had a wagonload of scholarly opinions to support that idea, and as I remember it was not seriously challenged by the dems.

Stare Decisis is not intended to be set in concrete. That was the meaning of her discussion about super precedents.

ok I look forward to the case when the FBI has to disclose in discovery how they were exposed by their 2016 election interference

'Til then.....................................


that is the real threat to liberty in this country

The real threat to liberty in this country is Trump trying to overthrow the government. Ain't nuthin' even close to a liberty threat than that nutjob and his wacky cohorts.


$3.5 million US taxpayer money was paid to Twitter alone to manipulate the outcome of the 2020 elections

That's been explained to you more than once right here on these pages. Repeating it will never make it true.


And that is just the FBI . The Twitter files have so far only dealt with the FBI and to a lesser extent the CIA . Other agencies roles that have been briefly mentioned like DHS's 'Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency' (CISA) played important roles too

When you have something solid to report, get back to me.


In a couple of weeks of Twitter disclosures ,more has been done to expose the deep state interference in elections than was ever exposed by John Durham's 3 years of investigation.

That's not saying much. Durham was a total joke. It went nowhere and sputtered out like a spent balloon.


It is no coincidence that James Baker ,the author of the FBI warrants to spy on the Trump campaign was later embedded in Twitter

Embedded? Did you mean HIRED? Nice try at slanting the truth.


He was also hired by CNN as an analysist which tells you how deep the government has embedded into the private sector

OK, now it's CNN hires. What's next? Sesame Street?


the Jan 6 kangaroo court .

Kangaroo court? Did you see the reams of documents, videos, audio, eyewitness testimony from TRUMP REPUBLICAN STAFFERS? Are you really that blind to the truth? Thousands and thousands of pages proving every charge? What more could you possibly want?



All nominees lie in the confirmation process. They learned that after Robert Bork told the truth and was mercilessly trashed

Nice admission that the Trump appointees lied. And so many such good Catholics.

The real threat to liberty in this country is Trump trying to overthrow the government.Oh brother. TDS strikes again.


that the Trump appointees liedRidiculous accusation for which, as usual, he has no evidence.

"Almost every conspiracy theory that people had about Twitter turned out to be true," Elon Musk said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE5CTKqWEV0&t=4898s) on the All-In podcast in late December. "Is there a conspiracy theory about Twitter that didn't turn out to be true?"

Did 'Every Conspiracy Theory' About Twitter Turn Out to Be True? (reason.com) (https://reason.com/video/2023/01/09/did-every-conspiracy-theory-about-twitter-turn-out-to-be-true/)

Adam Schiffhead used his power as the Chair /ranking member of Congressional Intel Committee to pressure Twitter to delete postings and suspend users. He and his staff repeatedly requested posts taken down on subjects as frivolous and a parody of Clueless Joe.

In one extreme case he requested that journalist Paul Sperry be suspended because Sperry had revealed the identity of Schiff's secret whistleblower during the Trump Ukraine impeachment . That whistleblower was Eric Ciaramella ,a partisan Dem emperor holdover at the WH .

Sperry was indeed suspended by Twitter . He claims he got no explanation why.

The fact that the government is interfering with the operation of the free press should be of enormous concern for all of us.