Hi Everyone,

Well it's getting close to Christmas, and many of us (myself included) are on a very tight budget this year. I thought that maybe we could all help each other out. No, I'm not talking about donating money, but maybe we can all help each other find those "must have" Christmas gifts for the lowest prices possible, so our kids and family can have a great Christmas this year.

So post what you're looking for, post your Christmas list, and let's see if we can all help find these items and save money doing it.

Also, how do you cut down that Christmas list? Who's on your list and why? Do you buy things just because someone has bought for you in the past, or do you just stick to those you're closest to, or you immediate family? Is it okay to cut people out because you really can't afford it? If so, how do you tell them, or do you tell them?

So many things to deal with when the holiday season is upon us. It's so stressful, especially when you don't have unlimited funds.

Maybe we can all help each other get through it this year.

This thread is open for any discussion, so come one come all. :)

The Christmases my kids remember with the greatest fondness and joy are the ones when we spent a lot of time making cookies and decorating them, made our own gifts for each other and decorations for the house/tree (after going to the library for ideas), and helped other people worse off than we were. The ones they've forgotten are when they got the fancy, expensive toys.

I agree WG. The year that Jared still talks about is the year we made a ginger bread house and volunteered for Santa's anonymous delivering toys. We used to do the SA thing every year, but when the kids were really little it was too hard. I'm planning on doing it again this year, now that the kids are older.

We always buy a toy for Santa's anonymous, one for a boy Jared's age, and one for a girl Sydney's age. They pick out the toy and really feel good knowing that some child less fortunate than they are gets something for Christmas because of them.

My kids are very good about understanding that we can't afford the pricey elaborate gifts. Still, as a mom, I want to be able to give them the things they want, or at least have something to put under the tree. I guess I'm the greedy one, I want to give them the best. :o

I want to give them the best. :o
Then you and R do that -- give them the best, the gifts of your time and imagination. During the holiday season, do some special outdoor thing (yeah, I know where you live) -- go to an area park or forest preserve where you can walk in the woods (after studying up on tracks in the snow or what various trees and bushes are without their leaves or the names of various evergreens or the names of birds you see -- take some dried corn and seeds along or hang peanut buttered/seeded pine cones on branches).

Have a family meeting and talk about how you want to be eco-friendly (not because you're "poor" -- you're saving the Earth) this Christmas, and begin to make plans (go to the library, of course :)). I envy you having small children and the wonderful opportunity ahead of you!

Wonderful ideas WG. My dad would have adored you. Every weekend we'd go on nature hikes and my dad would point out every tree, every bush, every bird, every track. He knew them all. I learned from a young age, but I'm nowhere near as good as my dad was.

Every year we have what's called "candy cane lane". It's a street where all the neighbors have long ago decided to go all out for Christmas. The decorations, the lighting, it's marvelous. It's gotten very popular in the last few years so it's hard to go (it's often very busy) but it's worth the trouble, and best of all, it's free. :)

I guess I better get to building. Sydney has begged for a new doll house, and I had planned to make one, but we couldn't afford to get the supplies. Well R brought a whole bunch of wood home the other day, scraps from work, so I can actually make it now.

Jared would really like a new desk, and a computer. I can build the desk, and maybe we can take the parts from our old computers and make one that works for him. By "we" I mean R. ;)

You're right, I am blessed. So many times we spend months getting ready for Christmas, shopping, running around, and not realizing that the best gift we can give our families, our kids, is the gift of our time and love.

Still, I wouldn't mind finding the perfect gift for a really good price. ;)

Still, I wouldn't mind finding the perfect gift for a really good price. ;)
Rescue another bunny from the shelter.

Rescue another bunny from the shelter.

LOL! I'd be homeless. R would throw me out.

If we had a bigger house I'd do it in a heartbeat. Heck, just take me to the shelter and I'd do it. This is why I'm no longer allowed to volunteer there. R, is worried that I'd bring home new fur baby every day. He's right, I would.

Indy will be going in for his final appointment either this Friday or next. Most likely next as we're burying him in the backyard and R wants the hole dug before we do it. It snowed a few days ago, so it's making digging a bit hard. I don't think getting another fur baby is in the cards any time soon. We're both really upset that it's time for Indy to go to the rainbow bridge. :(

We really don't go wild buying for each other. For our son Nate ( who we never had Santa give anything) we look for things he most likely would have had to get anyway, plus a couple of extras.

For example ( he does not read my posts) he is in martial arts ( ranks in state competition most years and he major Battle of Atlanta) So this year he is getting all new sparring gear. ( I had some coupons for a big discount from events we have went to) But in other years we would have went to one of the sporting good stores that buys and sells used sporting equipment and maybe even traded in some old equipment. But I will take his old gear and sell after christmas to help with the costs also.

And of course I used to work some part time jobs going toward christmas, in stores putting things like bikes and sporting goods together,
This year I was able to book some good weddings , one even on Dec 25 which because of the date has a premium price to it. But odd jobs has normally always paid for our christmas

Alty, could you post the details on how to do the Santa's Anonymous? And what it's about... would love to share it with a few people and try and get it going here :)

I do paintings for people as gifts a lot, it's cheap for sure, but takes a lot of time so it balances out.

A great idea for kids is building a remote control car track in your back yard.
If you have any wasted space you can use it to build one like the picture below.

The one I saw ages ago looked 100x better than this because they had actually lanscaped around it with plants and flowers and used proper borders. You can even use half a car tyre and put dirt over it to make a tunnel/bridge.

It's also a good way to encourage friends to visit :)

http://www.atomicmods.com/Images/Articles/Build_a_Mini_Track_1.jpg

Santa's anonymous is a great program. I'm not exactly sure who runs it, but a local radio station is the drop of centre for all the toys collected, and they are the ones that promote it, so I'd assume it's the radio station that sponsors it.

They have bins in a lot of malls all around Edmonton and area. People drop of new gifts (unwrapped) in the bins. Those bins are collected and volunteers wrap the gifts and place them in age categories.

The people that benefit for it just have to write in, fill out a form, along with the number of children and ages of the children in the household.

Once the gifts are wrapped volunteers drop off the toys to the locations listed (those that wrote in).

We always did the driving, and I have to say, even though it was cold, and we often drove all around the city just to deliver to 20 locations, it was so worth it. Often times the families would also get a box of food with a turkey, and all the fixings, so they could have Christmas dinner.

It's a wonderful program.

Sometimes you can give gifts that keep in giving. Like a book on household experiments you can do in your kitchen. Like the balls from water experiment. (I hope worked for you) and other neat things like that.

Everyone is getting canned tomato something this year. I had an abundance of tomatoes.
Marinara I
Marinara II
Salsa
Hot Salsa
Cocktail sauce
BBQ sauce
Chili (add meat later)
I even canned just plain for future stuff.

Besides the canned goods I usually buy what people have mentioned over the last couple months. I always try for one nice gift, but wrap many for under the tree and I have done this for years.

This year I have a coupon for a free razor and shaving cream that my son will truly enjoy. (it's a really nice razor:)) Shhhhhh no telling:rolleyes:

My G-D daughter mentioned she loved the softness of my sheets, so I bought her a set for her bed at home.

Many people would be thinking 'how lame' but they really do get a kick out of opening funny presents no matter how inexpensive they are.:)

We were really poor when I was growing up.

I didn't get presents, I got holes cut into the pockets
Of my jeans.

Everyone is getting canned tomato something this year. I had an abundance of tomatoes.
Marinara I
Marinara II
Salsa
Hot Salsa
Cocktail sauce
BBQ sauce
Chili (add meat later)
I even canned just plain for future stuff.

Besides the canned goods I usually buy what people have mentioned over the last couple months. I always try for one nice gift, but wrap many for under the tree and I have done this for years.

This year I have a coupon for a free razor and shaving cream that my son will truly enjoy. (it's a really nice razor:)) Shhhhhh no telling:rolleyes:

My G-D daughter mentioned she loved the softness of my sheets, so I bought her a set for her bed at home.

Many people would be thinking 'how lame' but they really do get a kick out of opening funny presents no matter how inexpensive they are.:)

You do have my address right? :p

It's going to be hard for us this year as well. Rae's birthday is next Friday. Luckily she is old enough to understand what's going on. All she wants is her graduated driver's license. :(

This year, I am writing a letter to all of my children and my husband, I am going to tell them what they mean to me and why. This is going to be the hardest year we have ever had. They all know it and they all keep saying they don't even see anything they want so whatever they get will be good. That makes me happy, on the other hand, I thought maybe we could go and do something for someone else who has it way worse than we do. Our family has so many things to be thankful for, so, doing without expecting anything in return will do wonders for all of us. I am actually going to enjoy this year,it will be more about being thankful than anything else. With everything we have endured this past year, I think that is all we need, is each other:) Sounds sappy but it is truth... all truth!

Starty, big hugs to you.

My kids are the same way. They know that we're in a rough spot financially, we don't believe in hiding that from them. Sydney told me yesterday that she'd love it if I made her some barbie and doll clothes. I have tons of scrap material, enough to outfit every doll she has.

Jared is the same way. He wants a day out with me, just him and me, no one else. That's his Christmas wish.

Of course the mom in me wants to have tons of presents under the tree for them. I want to see their eyes light up. I want to give them everything I was so blessed to have in my childhood. But, looking back, it was never the presents that mad Christmas great for me when I was young. It was my parents, the time we spent together, family. Boy do I miss them. If I could have one wish this Christmas it would be on last Christmas with my parents. Now who's sappy. :(

We are blessed. We have our health (so to speak) and we have two wonderful kids, and we have love in this family. So many people don't have that. I am grateful.

But, having said all of that. If I win the lottery I'm going all out. :)

This year, I am writing a letter to all of my children and my husband, I am going to tell them what they mean to me and why. This is going to be the hardest year we have ever had. They all know it and they all keep saying they don't even see anything they want so whatever they get will be good. That makes me happy, on the other hand, I thought maybe we could go and do something for someone else who has it way worse than we do. Our family has so many things to be thankful for, so, doing without expecting anything in return will do wonders for all of us. I am actually going to enjoy this year,it will be more about being thankful than anything else. With everything we have endured this past year, I think that is all we need, is each other:) Sounds sappy but it is truth....all truth!

Great Idea start.

I love Christmas, my favorite Holiday. It always meant love and closeness to family, the most special time of the year. It still is but since my mother passed it is also my most sad time of the year. Many beautiful memories and seeing her smiling face in my mind and heart, miss her a lot.

I want a new AUDI Q6!! :)

Nothing gives me more pleasure than giving to my loved ones and helping others at this most wonderful time of the year...

Early and even before Thanksgiving but MERRY CHRISTMAS to you!!

Stringer

Not too early for me Stringer, we Canadians already had our Thanksgiving. :)

Not too early for me Stringer, we Canadians already had our Thanksgiving. :)

Okey dokey hon, then (just) MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!

i love christmas, my favorite holiday. It always meant love and closeness to family, the most special time of the year. It still is but since my mother passed it is also my most sad time of the year. Many beautiful memories and seeing her smiling face in my mind and heart, miss her a lot.

I want a new audi q6!!!!!! :)

nothing gives me more pleasure than giving to my loved ones and helping others at this most wonderful time of the year...

Early and even before thanksgiving but merry christmas to ya'll !!!!!!

Stringer

No ladders!! 22 xxoo

no ladders!!!! 22 xxoo

Well, short ones OK?

Actually I am getting prices to install the high lights this year... :)

See I can listen, I just have to convince Marta occasionally of that... :)

22 22

Well, short ones ok?

Actually I am getting prices to install the high lights this year... :)

See I can listen, I just have to convince Marta occasionally of that... :)

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No ladders at all... you know better. Marta is right! You know that too:)
Good idea on having them hung by a company, I like that.;)

Our lights stay up year round. Too many times R has been on the roof when it's already snowed and it's -20. He's too clumsy for that situation to be a good idea. ;)

No ladders at all...you know better. Marta is right! You know that too:)
Good idea on having them hung by a company, I like that.;)

OK... ok... ok... okkkkkk... :)

Geeze, want to be creative and everyone yells at cha... :rolleyes:

We are having Thanksgiving here again this year and we expect about 30 - 35 people. I have Thanksgiving displays up now inside and out. But, I will have most if not all the Christmas decorations/displays for outside up by then. I expect a few to 'ride' me about having them up so early however it is in the 40's now and will be in the low 30's after Thanksgiving so they are going up now...

Mmmmm, Thanksgiving. Make that 36 people. I'll bring a pie. :)

I can see Stringer's house from my back porch. Certainly he'll invite me SINCE I'M RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD. I'll bring Puffy Cauliflower and walnut fudge.

I can see Stringer's house from my back porch. Certainly he'll invite me SINCE I'M RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD. I'll bring Puffy Cauliflower and walnut fudge.

WG, send me some turkey and some stuffing. Ooh, and mashed potatoes. Is there any blaukraut? Spaetzle? Just make up a plate for me, I'm not picky. ;)

Mmmmm, Thanksgiving. Make that 36 people. I'll bring a pie. :)

Sooo, you decided not to tell the kids and R about the invitation and you are coming alone? :rolleyes:

I can see Stringer's house from my back porch. Certainly he'll invite me SINCE I'M RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD. I'll bring Puffy Cauliflower and walnut fudge.

Definitely bring the (chocolate) walnut fudge hon, but leave that puffy thing (cauliflower) at home... anyways anything that is a flower should be sniffed not eaten... :)

Sooo, you decided not to tell the kids and R about the invitation and you are coming alone? :rolleyes:

Darn right I'm coming alone. Less people, more food. :)

Darn right I'm coming alone. Less people, more food. :)

Good point, I will be wearing expandable slacks when I sit down at this banquet: turkey, ham, stuffing, dressings, sides, pie (pumpkin, cherry and apple), cranberry sauce, hot rolls, and finally deserts... watch out!

Okay, I'll bring some German flavor. Spaetzle, blaukraut, und shwarzwald kuchen. You game? :)

That's all you're bringing, Alty? Stringer says he'll be wearing stretch pants. Since he's thrown my Puffy Cauliflower under the bus, maybe I'll bring glazed carrots and eggnog ice cream.

I can bring more, but spaetzle and blaukraut aren't easy to make. Okay, spaetzle is, but blaukraut from scratch, not so much. I'll by the shwarzwald kuchen. No way can I make it and have it taste authentic. German bakery here I come.

I had to look up blaukraut to see what that was... turns out I knew what it was, just not the German name for it... mmmm good stuff.

Hey... It's my party :rolleyes::D

I don't think that I'll eat anything that I can't pronounce.

And no healthy food for Thanksgiving ! :)

I'm getting all of my granmother's recipes for christmas cookies. Woot Woot... you'll never find anything like them.

J have you ever heard of 'Bachelor Button' cookies?

Oh, heck yeah!! I just don't like the coconut.

Oh, heck yeah!!! I just don't like the coconut.

Just put nuts and peanut butter in the cookies.

I use reeses peanut butter cups.. the little ones.

I also like a good nut roll

And my favorite to make is Lady Locks

http://www.chbakery.com/i//ladylocks.jpg

Another one of my faves is this one... pinwheel cookies with apricot filling

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/334022187_9e1d70416e.jpg

Wonders if anyone has ever had bobalky (sp)? Alty have you?

I use reeses peanut butter cups..the little ones.

I also like a good nut roll

And my favorite to make is Lady Locks

http://www.chbakery.com/i//ladylocks.jpg

These look delicious.

And they are FUN to make!

I use reeses peanut butter cups..the little ones.

I also like a good nut roll

And my favorite to make is Lady Locks

http://www.chbakery.com/i//ladylocks.jpg

Those are great... when they are made the right way. And good ones are NOT easy to find.

I'm drooling on my keyboard!

Damn I want some sweets.

Bobalky? It doesn't sound familiar. It may be that I have and we just call it something else. If it's German than every town has it's own name for it. We're silly like that. You can drive 2 hours and end up in a town where their dialect is impossible to understand, even though they're still speaking German.

For instance. And egg is an ei but in Weikersheim, where I lived before moving to Canada, it's called a gukale (you pronounce the e at the end).

I use reeses peanut butter cups..the little ones.

I also like a good nut roll

And my favorite to make is Lady Locks

http://www.chbakery.com/i//ladylocks.jpg

I like to drizzle hersheys chocolate syrup over them before I eat them. Yummy.


Roadtrip ? Lol

Stop posting that picture! I'm really hungry!

Damn those look good. I can almost taste them.

Sigh.

I use reeses peanut butter cups..the little ones.

I also like a good nut roll

And my favorite to make is Lady Locks

http://www.chbakery.com/i//ladylocks.jpg

Yep... delicious. :)

Ohhh, I just read the recipe... yummie, hard work though, but well worth it.

You have to post the recipe J. My mouth is watering.

When do you start baking? And store them in the freezer? (How do you keep people from snitching them?)

I used to make 35 dozen or so, but now I'm old and I have only 8 different kinds on my list so far.

I've never baked before. I just got the recipes in the mail from Mom today.

This'll be a first for me.

Hopefully this is what my christmas cookie plate will look like when I'm done.

http://www.buttermaidbakery.com/graphics/products/wedding-cookies-kolachi-nut-walnut-horns-kiffles-rolls-pecan-tarts-clothespins-lady-locks.jpg

You big meanie J! Mine will look like this.

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You both have me beat. I won't have one at all because my wife would complain I don't need it (if its something I like)... and if its something she likes she'd eat them.

I don't mean to hijack, but am I going crazy or what? Am I actually seeing this? Please tell me it's a hallucination...

YouTube - Teenage Dream(with me) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_n3hg-Gbg&feature=related)

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

I don't mean to hijack, but am I going crazy or what? Am I actually seeing this? Please tell me it's a hallucination...

YouTube - Teenage Dream(with me) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_n3hg-Gbg&feature=related)

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Was that a boy or girl... in any case they are the new face of androgyny.

I don't mean to hijack, but am I going crazy or what? Am I actually seeing this? Please tell me it's a hallucination...

YouTube - Teenage Dream(with me) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_n3hg-Gbg&feature=related)

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Apparently he's a 15 year old dwarf and he's a huge hit. He's had over 1 million hits on his "videos" on you tube. He's been on Jimmy Kimmel, and a radio show, all for lip syncing badly and making faces.

If I knew it was this easy to get famous I would have done it years ago. I can pretend to lip sync and make strange faces. Bring it baby. ;)

Well I got the lights up on the house, first time, I never had lights all over the house, even all the peaks, ledges, windows and around the two garage doors. It's pretty cool, I have a remote where I can set the lights to blinking, solid colors, color waves, etc.

I got a few new things so far too; a lighted Christmas Peacock, a beautiful lighted chicken and two chicks and three red lighted bells that are near the walkway that are motion equipped so that when someone walks by there break out in Christmas carols and the lights align with the music too...

After Thanksgiving we will do the tree and all the inside decorating, going all out even more than last year... :)

Love holiday decorating... I think that it offers me some type of therapy...

Wow, Stringer! I wondered what that bright arc of lights was in the west after the sun went down. Good thing my bedroom's on the other side of the house!

Wow, Stringer! I wondered what that bright arc of lights was in the west after the sun went down. Good thing my bedroom's on the other side of the house!

:) Turn... slowly... to... the... light...

Hey I not finished yet!

Hee hee, remember that old song "There's a new sun raising up angry in the west"?

Stinger, can you please pay me a visit? I'm tired of the redneck christmas lights I put up. Yes, I've been known to use duct tape. :o

Stinger, can you please pay me a visit? I'm tired of the redneck Christmas lights I put up. Yes, I've been known to use duct tape. :o

I would love to J.

Duct tape is an essential along with twist ties, multiple outlets, ladders, many, many extension cords, remote controls, timers, and oh steady balance... :)

I'll be out there tomorrow again.

WG... each night that 'glow' should be brighter. :rolleyes::D;)

*putting sunglasses on myself and the cats*

How long will the "glow" last?

*putting sunglasses on myself and the cats*

How long will the "glow" last?

Let me check...

Ok, our association rules say that all Christmas displays must be taken down by...

(Are you ready?)

January 15, 2011

And remember, I have only begun.

AND... you are going to get the full glorious effect as my house faces EAST... :)

The planes going to O'Hare will get confused.

Will you be selling tickets? (although all I have to do is set up a chair in the back yard and look to the west)

Are you mixing the sacred with the secular?

Ooops. Just got a call from my friend in Frankfort, wondering if the Star in the East has reappeared. Or is this the Rapture?

Do what I do every year. Give them Blue Shop Towels. Every one needs them. Every one uses them. Do you realize how many uses you can find for Blue Shop Towels? Limitless. Besides, one of my best friends works at the Blue Shop Towel factory so I get a whole case, at cost. It's a great gift and everyone seems very happy to get them. Plus, you can clean up the big Christmas mess with them. You know someone is going to drink too much Nog and fall out half way to the toilet and just let it rip all over the hall and the wall. No problem. Got Blue shop Towels on hand.
Also, I take them hunting with me. Blue Shop Towels are 100% better than toilet paper. Just don't use them at home. They plug the toilet.

The planes going to O'Hare will get confused.

Will you be selling tickets? (although all I have to do is set up a chair in the back yard and look to the west)

Are you mixing the sacred with the secular?

Ooops. Just got a call from my friend in Frankfort, wondering if the Star in the East has reappeared. Or is this the Rapture?

Secular WG, although, that presents an idea for next year in addition to what I already have. I can do half in sacred...

This year I got permission to also use half of each of my neighbors' yards since they don't do much decorating (sad I know :().

Do what I do every year. Give them Blue Shop Towels. Every one needs them. Every one uses them. Do you realize how many uses you can find for Blue Shop Towels? Limitless. Besides, one of my best friends works at the Blue Shop Towel factory so I get a whole case, at cost. It's a great gift and everyone seems very happy to get them. Plus, you can clean up the big Christmas mess with them. You know someone is going to drink too much Nog and fall out half way to the toilet and just let it rip all over the hall and the wall. No problem. Got Blue shop Towels on hand.
Also, I take them hunting with me. Blue Shop Towels are 100% better than toilet paper. Just don't use them at home. They plug the toilet.

Mag now that's an idea, practical and useful and since I spent so much already on decorating this is inexpensive too... what an idea, I like ideas! :D

I would love to J.

Duct tape is an essential along with twist ties, multiple outlets, ladders, many, many extension cords, remote controls, timers, and oh steady balance..... :)

I'll be out there tomorrow again.

WG....each night that 'glow' should be brighter. :rolleyes::D;)

911 on speed dial too... :D for when you fall off the roof.

911 on speed dial too....:D for when you fall off the roof.

Did that years ago and broke my neck, I have two vertebra from a dead person now.

I organized and officiated, got someone else to put them up... no second chances you know.

Secular WG, although, that presents an idea for next year in addition to what I already have. I can do half in sacred...

My kids used to love to go to McDonald's, not only for the Happy Meals but also to be able to drive past a certain house. The owners set up a Christmas display in the yard, on the house, and on the roof that took days to arrange. Every time you drove by, there was new stuff to see. Baby Jesus lay in his manger next to long lines of tall candy canes, Santa hung out near the angel on top of a manger, and drummer boys surrounded camels and wise men (or "wise guys," as my kids called them). Of course, strings of twinkling and flashing lights were draped over and around everything. Depending on weather, the display might last until February or March when it magically changed into Valentine's or St. Pat's displays.

Did that years ago and broke my neck, I have two vertebra from a dead person now.

I organized and officiated, got someone else to put them up...no second chances ya know.

Ouch... said that tongue in cheek, but yeah... it happens, and two of my classmates from high school are no longer with us because for falling from roofs. In their cases likely helped with consumption of adult beverages.

Luckily you didn't end up paralyzed or worse.

I know it's a fear never far from my mind any time I have to get on my roof to clean the gutters.

Ouch.....said that tongue in cheek, but yeah...it happens, and two of my classmates from high school are no longer with us because fo falling from roofs. In their cases likely helped with consumption of adult beverages.

Luckily you didn't end up paralyzed or worse.

I know its a fear never far from my mind any time I have to get on my roof to clean the gutters.

Actually that was the original diagnosis however the head of surgery at Rush University Medical Center performed what I call a miracle. I have a 4" x 4" piece of titanium and 6 titanium screws in my neck. No discomfort to speak of although I cannot turn my neck as far as I once did and some little nerve damage where I cannot feel anything in an area near my shoulder. However after the first two surgeons told my wife that I could die or be disabled I am indeed grateful.

Dr Burn did a miraculous job. After wards he did tell me that I had a 50 - 50 chance of surviving at all. So, needless to say I do not get up on a ladder without Marta yelling at me...

Overall though I am doing fine it was seven years ago.

By the way, when someone says that I have 'a screw loose' I do have to check...