I just watched Is it real? On National Geographic on the Lost City Atlantis.

And some are saying that the hieroglyphics on the pyramids and the Sphinx talk about aliens.
The commentator also mentioned that the Mayans and Egyptians must have had aliens helping them to make their building structures.

Is this what archeologists in general believe? Why is it not accepted that it just could be that the ancient civilizations had skilled people to get such smooth work done from amongst the tools they must have had?

Thanks in advance.

I think that the ancient civiliastions where perfectly capable of building such things.
And they could be talking about aliens, or just gods/angels of some kind, it would all seem the same to them.
And it took hundreds of years for pyramids to be built, and massive amounts of labor.
People tend to underestimate the ancient civiliastions level of technology.
Athens had flushing toilets even.

Cal,
I have read about toilets at Roman bath houses having a flushing system.
I believe they were so much more advanced in their way than we are today where machines help make life easier.:)

Yerp, have you read about roman road systems? They were very advanced and well designed. Also, the mayans had structures with great stones that they somehow fitted together perfectly tightly with no gaps which is amazing.

I have read some but not enough on the Mayans.

Ancient civilization was far more advanced than us at one time.
I had a really good site about it but my son keeps messing with my computer and losing my saved sites.

Most Christians believe the earth is only 6,000 years old and swear you have to be a believer of evolution if you believe otherwise, but I and some Christians do not believe in evolution yet do believe that the universe existed before the six day creation; and six day creation was more of a 're'-creation. It is called the gap theory. That explains how there can be so much that points to explaining the ancient stuff that doesn't seem to fit in with the Bible yet doesn't negate the Bible. It makes more sense to me than anything.

The Gap Theory of Genesis Chapter One (a layman's critical appraisal) (http://www.tlogical.net/gap.htm)

I just watched Is it real? On National Geographic on the Lost City Atlantis.

Is this what archeologists in general believe?

No - this is not what arecheologists believe. There have been lots of crack pots who have put forth various wild arguments regarding aliens coming to help the Mayans, or the Egyptions, or the Easter Island sculpters, but none of it has any scientific merit. Unfortunaletely some TV programs like to dig this stuff up because it may get good ratings. Personaly I believe that these ideas are at best ignorant, an at worst downright racist.

ebaines,
Those were my thoughts too.They just needed something added to spice up the program.

I just watched Is it real? On National Geographic on the Lost City Atlantis.

And some are saying that the hieroglyphics on the pyramids and the Sphinx talk about aliens.
The commentator also mentioned that the Mayans and Egyptians must have had aliens helping them to make their building structures.

Is this what archeologists in general believe? Why is it not accepted that it just could be that the ancient civilizations had skilled people to get such smooth work done from amongst the tools they must have had?

Thanks in advance.
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Roman toilets weren't exactly 'flushing toilet's but, aside from being very public, side by side, the water was constantly running in duct work under the seats and carrying the waste away under the streets and deposited in a sewer system.

They had, as well, heating systems developed when they inhabited Britain to combat the cold winters there, in separate 'furnace' rooms using copper and ceramic duct work to carry hot water under the floors to every room in the house.

I just watched Is it real? On National Geographic on the Lost City Atlantis.

And some are saying that the hieroglyphics on the pyramids and the Sphinx talk about aliens.
The commentator also mentioned that the Mayans and Egyptians must have had aliens helping them to make their building structures.

Is this what archeologists in general believe? Why is it not accepted that it just could be that the ancient civilizations had skilled people to get such smooth work done from amongst the tools they must have had?

Thanks in advance.
Lmao! Alieenss!! I'm Egyptian, believe me we don't have Aliens, I would love to meet one thou! :D

Stories like this have been around a long time. They were 'popularized' in the 1970s by von Danniken's (sp) Chariots of the Gods. There are even archaeologist who are otherwise fairly respected in other areas who favor these views. But while I think it's possible that ET has been here, I don't think they helped build anything. Just because the Incans (and Mayans and Aztecs) managed to move those huge stones without the wheel doesn't mean they had 'outside' help. For a clue to how clever they were, check out their accurate calanders. (And no, I don't believe they predicted a world disaster for 2012.)



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Lol what disaster are you talking about?! That thing is new, never heard about before, they used to wait for flood to move the stones.. as far as I know.. let me check for you more and ask my cousin she studies history :)

WV, the mayan callender ends in 20l2. From calculations now, their calendar was accurate. 20l2 was the end of the world according to them. But their idea of the end probably was entirely different from ours as we know what nuclear warfare can do.

That the calendar ends in 2012 is now used by some as a new catastrophe-end-of-the-world scenario. Hist Channel even did a show on it. I agree w/ your interpretation...



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What I don't get is why everyone thinks that aliens would zip around in ufos visiting us.
Just because they may or may not exist on other worlds doesn't mean they have space travel.
They probably would be incapable of understanding our sentience or may not even realise we are living things seeing as how they may not be carbon based or even solid life forms as we know it.
And if they helped build stuff, it wouldn't be using existing methods of construction such as stone work.

I am currently reading a book on that very subject by Graham Hancock entitled "Fingerprints of the Gods." It is an incredibly interesting book and his theory is that at one time in pre-history there was an advanced civilization that was destroyed and the survivors attempted to spread their knowledge to the lesser-advanced peoples they encountered.

Let me give you just two examples that this guy refers to-he is very specific in the evidence he presents.

You have probably heard of the Nazca lines in Peru. These huge depictions were done in ancient times and consist of lines, shapes and pictures of animals and insects that are only visible from the air. The author mentions a huge picture of a spider and points out that it depicts an insect that does not live in that area, but on the opposite side of the Andes mountain range. Also, the Nazca drawing of the legs of this spider depict features only visible under a microscope!

Another piece of evidence are the ancient maps of the polar regions that were made at a time before they were covered with ice. There is supposed to be no way that the people of the time could have got there, let alone made the maps.

There are plenty of things in history and archeology that are yet to be explained. This guy offers some explanations without going too far out in his conclusions. If you can get the book, it is certainly worth reading.

Then you should Google the Pieri Ri'es map of the l500s done by a Turk of the North American Continent and Antartica. It is amazingly accurate and a birds eye view.

I'm familiar w/ Hancock's work. He does talk a good case but I find his conclusions suspect (they remind me too much of Daniken's). The Incas etc were adept at trading and maybe that spider was seen by a traveler and imnpressed him. Just as logical a theory, maybe more so than Hancock's. The idea of the "only seen under a microscope" part is a bit farfetched considering how the Nazca lines are made. His ideas on the supposed advanced construction remind me of those that say the ancient Egyptians couldn't have come up with their ideas on their own.. Hancock is a believer in Atlantis - not the possibly historical one but the fanciful one that has spurred so much speculation. I think he may also be one of those who think it was actually in S Am. Don't get me wrong. I find hois theories thought provoking and I watch his docs when they come on because I find them interesting. I just think he's selling the intelligence of the ancient peoples short.

Yes the Pieri Ries map is one of the ones I am talking about, it is supposed to be based on much older maps. Yes, Hancock does remind me of Van Daniken, I just think his conclusions are not as far-fetched. He can't prove them, of course, and admits it.

I was watching a doco on nat geo on foxtel and I didn't watch it all but I remember seeing a bit about how hieoglyphs in egypt depict things that look almost exactly like helicopters and modern boats.
Anyone else seen these? I think they look pretty close to those things, its amazing.

Yes, there are also things on some of Egyptian walls that look like lightbulbs, etc. some of the photos in the book I am reading show ancient drawings that really look like people in space suits/helments/space vehicles. The perfect alignment of huge stone blocks used in ancient structures and the famous Olmec heads with African features in South America really make me wonder... Lotsa stuff like that remains unexplained and interesting to ponder.

cal823 - those go back to Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods" stuff. Those types of figures are in S & Central Am carvings as well. One depicts what looks like an astronaut ina capsule at take-off ('flames' all around).

http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id11.html

Ancient Technology (http://ancientskyscraper.com/236401.html)

Steve Quayle News Alerts: Ancient Civilizations and Technology (http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/Ancient.Civ_Technol/Ancient.Civ.index.html)

People were just as smart and clever in ancient times as now. The only difference is that we stand on the shoulders of giants. I saw the show that you mentioned I thought comment about pyramids and calendars was silly. You give a group of 4 year olds a pile of blocks and at least one will build a pyramid. Or drop any person in the wilderness or someplace without a clock or calender they will start one the same day. Time is even woven into the cells of our body. When to wake, sleep or eat. When to plant or when to harvest are all tools that are ingrained in humans for thousands of years. UFO's have nothing to do with it.

But I'm not saying that UFO's don't exist. I always thought it was a crazy idea. Until my father, before he died, told me they are real. He was a radar specialist for the Air Force in Washington state and for NORAD in Colorado Springs. He told me that he used to scramble jets after them and he would track them doing right angle turns at unbelievable speeds. No jet could catch them. He wouldn't tell me any more no matter how much I bugged him about it.

I worked for both the Air Force and NASA and I can guarantee you that UFO's (at least some of them) are real. I have posted many times about this and my avatar is my ID badge from the Apollo XI mission, during which there was a UFO accompanying the capsule three days out from Earth.

I have read some but not enough on the Mayans.

What is astounding is that the Mayans built all their cities, monuments and pyramids without the use of the wheel they never saw a wheel until the Spanish came.

I believe that many things were known to our ancestors and that includes science and medicine. If the Library of Alexandria in Egypt had not burned we would be amazed at what they knew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria


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