Clueless Joe said those kids are not your kids. KJP disagreed .

Last month at a teacher of the year award ;Clueless said

"There is no such thing as someone else's child. No such thing as someone else's child. Our nation's children are all our children,"

Remarks by President Biden and First Lady Jill Biden at the 2023 National and State Teachers of the Year Celebration | The White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/04/24/remarks-by-president-biden-and-first-lady-jill-biden-at-the-2023-national-and-state-teachers-of-the-year-celebration/)

But KJP piped in at the GLAAD Media Awards. She said in subjecting kids to harmful genital mutilations ;puberty blockers ;mastectomies ;and chemical castrations

"These are our kids. They belong to all of us."

Both of course are wrong .
Parents are packing school boards making it clear that they do not approve of certain lessons being taught without their consent . In some cases when examples of the filth that is in the curriculum is read out loud ;the boards themselves try to censor the speaker.
(this is must see video)

School Board CUTS Dad Off When He Reads The Very Book That Is In The School Library For 10 Year Olds - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-TuRpk2NeA&t=4s)

KJP is wrong because parent or not you have no right to harm a child .

Moving on . Now the state of Connecticut has passed legislation that protects child molesters .

HB 6638 'An Act Revising the State’s Antidiscrimination Statutes' passed by 132-17 Along with the Dems a majority of the Conn Repubs voted in favor. It is a pedophile's bill of rights. People with sexual attractions like pedophilia and nepiophilia would be protected from discrimination unless they were actually caught in the act.


They are getting closer to the UN goals .

In a report backed by the UN called ' The 8 March Principles for a Human Rights-Based Approach to Criminal Law Proscribing Conduct Associated with Sex, Reproduction, Drug Use, HIV, Homelessness and Poverty'

Principle 16 reads :

Consensual sexual conduct, irrespective of the type of sexual activity, the sex/gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression of the people involved or their marital status, may not be criminalized in any circumstances. Consensual same-sex, as well as consensual different-sex sexual relations, or consensual sexual relations with or between trans, non-binary and other gender diverse people, or outside marriage – whether pre-marital or extramarital – may, therefore, never be criminalized. With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them. Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees.

8-MARCH-Principles-FINAL-printer-version-1-MARCH-2023.pdf (icj2.wpenginepowered.com) (https://icj2.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/8-MARCH-Principles-FINAL-printer-version-1-MARCH-2023.pdf)

Although the report does not specifically suggest an age of consent ;the language clearly suggests that kids are capable of making their own choice .

Regarding that video -- If children are kept ignorant of the good AND bad kinds of people out there, the body parts and how they work, the human threats to children's wellbeing, those children will be over-protected and totally clueless if approached by a male or female molester. I'd rather have canny children in my house and have done whatever possible to make that so. Counseling clients have confided in me about being sexually abused, when they were children, by neighbors, relatives, family friends, the clergy (!!!).

good excuse to introduce them to porn . And for those parents who attend these school board meetings ? Well the FBI we now learn has been taking down their license numbers.

FBI Whistleblower Tells Gaetz: I Took Parents' License Plate Numbers At School Board Meetings - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEphRsfvVmg)

It isn't porn, tomder. It's facts, truth, warnings. Read this one:

https://bookriot.com/sex-ed-books-protect-kids/?fbclid=IwAR0_s05rq8f2LiCnSt_p5Ej4u57lR1m5oxywz1Q1 GwirQ_joifEscXy53Kk

Kids talk to each other about sex and body parts and even physical and sexual abuse by adults. I heard a few horror stories back when I was a kid during the '50s.

the book he was quoting from 'It's Perfectly Normal" is anything but normal .It is a celebration of deviancy. It shows a total disregard for the preservation of the innocence, dignity, and the safety of our children.It's an illustrated graphic porn book .Yeah I'm sure it's popular with kids who just read it for an educational experience and completely ignore the cartoon illustrations of human sex organs and sex positions as they read it in the bathroom.
It seems to me that the book is more about pushing an agenda .

The parents at Waldorf school are right

Angry parents hit out at Waldorf school's sex ed curriculum (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2023/05/16/angry-parents-hit-out-at-waldorf-schools-sex-ed-curriculum/)

Okay. Now I want to page through a copy. Good thing I know how to get a library copy.

(Don't many kids shower or bathe with their parents, other family members?)

Regarding that video -- If children are kept ignorant of the good AND bad kinds of people out there, the body parts and how they work, the human threats to children's wellbeing, those children will be over-protected and totally clueless if approached by a male or female molester.That can be done without the use of porn.

No children past the age of a few years should shower or bathe with a parent, and especially with the parent of the opposite gender.

(Don't many kids shower or bathe with their parents, other family members?)

not in 5th grade and above unless they are Biden kids Ashley Biden believes showering with creepy Joe was a cause of her sex addiction.



President Joe Biden’s daughter reportedly writes of alleged abuse in diary | WTRF (https://www.wtrf.com/top-stories/alleged-showers-with-my-dad-president-joe-bidens-daughter-reportedly-writes-of-abuse-in-diary/)



Okay. Now I want to page through a copy. Good thing I know how to get a library copy.


I'm sure that if I c/p some of the illustrations from the book or other books used in sex ed ;they would be scrubbed from this site.

I've seen them online. I want to see the entire book, not piecemeal crabbing by conservatives. Interlibrary loan time.

Yep. You really can’t understand graphic porn without some good ole context.

Will let you know. And I've seen porn. Betcha this ain't porn.

yes Justice Potter Stewart you know it when you see it

Will let you know.We'll see. At any rate, that which should be regarded as porn for fifth graders is quite a bit different from that which is porn for adults.

Porn OR knowledge I wish I'd been given back when I was a clueless kid. Just requested an ILL. Will have it in my hot little hands in a few days.

From this morning's Chicago Sun-Times --

Gene Lyons: Moms for Liberty taking us back to Peyton Place

Here we go again. What we have here is a classic moral panic, a repeating theme in American public life. Remember the McMartin preschool trial in Los Angeles back in the 1980s? Bizarre allegations of satanic sexual abuse were made against a family-run day care center in Manhattan Beach.

Replete with sensational media coverage, the investigation and two criminal trials ended up lasting for seven years and costing almost $15 million — the longest criminal trial in U.S. history. A total of seven day care workers were charged with 321 counts of sexual abuse involving some four dozen children.

Prompted by true believers using anatomically correct dolls, little kids too young for kindergarten told fantastic tales involving flying witches, hot air balloons, dinosaurs and secret tunnels that children accessed by being flushed down the toilet before being abused by famous movie stars.

In the end, not a single episode of child molestation was ever proved, and there were no convictions, although some of those accused spent years in jail. All charges were eventually dropped. In the end, the mother whose accusations prompted the original probe was diagnosed with acute paranoid schizophrenia and died of alcohol poisoning.

Lawrence Wright’s terrific book “Remembering Satan” tells a similarly horrific tale of “recovered memory syndrome” that convulsed Olympia, Wash., around the same time. Father-daughter incest, orgies, unholy rites and mass infanticide — under the right circumstances, it appears, suggestible individuals can be persuaded to confess to almost anything.

If all that sounds reminiscent of the QAnon cult belief that Hillary Clinton conducts murderous satanic rituals in the basement of a Washington pizza restaurant (that has no basement), then you must be paying attention. Exactly why Americans are so prone to these repeated episodes of collective hallucination is hard to say. But fundamentalist Christianity appears to be the common denominator.

Which brings us to Moms for Liberty and their impassioned crusade against, yes, public librarians. Exactly what these women think the word “liberty” means is not clear. They are censors and book-banners of great passion and determination, rather like the Junior Anti-Sex League in George Orwell’s “1984.”

In Arkansas, near Little Rock, the Saline County Republican Women have even erected billboards declaring war on “X-RATED LIBRARY BOOKS.” Judging from the examples cited on the related website, most are R-rated at best. They’re largely earnest tomes such as “Let’s Talk About It: The Teen’s Guide to Sex, Relationships, and Being a Human.” It is shelved in the “Young Adult” section of the library.

“The opinion/instruction in this book directly and continuously opposes Christianity and the Word of God,” readers are told. The group accuses the county library staff of pushing “the LGBTQ agenda” and sneers that they should instead serve “the people of Saline County, not the interests of people in California.”

California, which gave the nation Ronald Reagan, is now synonymous with Sodom and Gomorrah among the GOP elect.

How many young women in Saline County become pregnant during high school for lack of understanding of what used to be called “the facts of life,” I can’t tell you. But I can assure
you they learn more about sex in pickup trucks than in the public library.

Seriously, how many libertine librarians have you known? A less subversive cohort would be hard to imagine.

Even granting that the institution known as “Drag Queen Story Hour” has got to be the dumbest example of liberal folly since “Defund the Police,” the notion that junior high librarians — of all people — have dedicated their careers to “grooming” children for sexual purposes … well, it’s just too silly to talk about.

Besides, if you follow the news, it’s in the churches, not the libraries, where all the action is. Scarcely a week passes around here without some preacher being busted for sexual misconduct.

Well, coaches and English teachers, too.

During my own long-ago youth, the naughtiest book I read was “Peyton Place,” the scandalous 1950s bestseller that lifted the lid off a small New England town. I certainly didn’t borrow it from the library. Paperback copies were everywhere.

The novel portrayed sexuality as fascinating, yes — also intoxicating, ubiquitous and dangerous. Kind of scary, actually. If anything, the women were worse than the men. After the lights went down, hardly anybody in Peyton Place, it seemed, was who they pretended to be.

That’s why Jeannie C. Riley referenced the novel in her classic country song “Harper Valley PTA:” “This is just a little Peyton Place/And you’re all Harper Valley hypocrites.”
I can’t help but start humming the tune whenever the Moms for Liberty take the platform.

Anyway, I could tell you what I think these pious crusaders do when they get back home after reading aloud naughty passages from library books to audiences of fellow Holy Housewives. (Assuming they do go home, instead of checking in at the No-Tell Motel for a couple of hours.) But never mind. Imagine it yourselves. I’m sure you can.

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The completely predictable next step.


A 35-year-old Washington state woman allegedly told police she identifies as a 15-year-old boy after she was arrested for sexting and providing alcohol and drugs to a crew of runaway teens that she planned to leave town with.Interesting how the news story referred to her as a "woman" despite her self-confessed male identification. Of course if she/he claims to be fifteen, then she/he is too young to purchase alcohol. Hmmm.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/grown-woman-who-identifies-as-15-year-old-boy-faces-wild-claims-of-drugs-sexting-with-teen-runaways-police?dicbo=v2-uTmi93r

She needs a psychiatrist and some meds.

It never stops. The hypocrisy never stops.
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The Language Nerds have censored c-m in magna c-m laude.

(Apparently, I'm not allowed to spell out that word on this site.)

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Now that is peculiar. It's almost as peculiar as a woman claiming to be a man. Not quite, but close.

We are created as LGBTQ+, as are plants, animals, birds, insects, AND humans.

We are created as bank robbers, murderers, adulterers, schizophrenics, liars, and so forth. We just can't help ourselves. Why, it's all over the animal world!!

Illogic on steroids.

in other words LGBTQ++XYZ is a compulsion.

Nope. they've existed since the beginning of life on Earth.

I'm am an "ace". The A in LGBTQIA.

It's worked out perfectly when married to an Aspie. (Today is our 56th anniversary.)

From the Letters to the Editor section of this morning's Chicago Tribune:

Feeding homophobia

This past weekend, we saw powerful operas commemorating the Holocaust by composer Jake Heggie and librettist Gene Scheer presented jointly by Music of Remembrance and Chicago Opera Theater. One of the pieces, “For a Look or a Touch,” tells the story of how gay people were treated by the Nazis, marked by pink triangles and sent to concentration camps.

I wish that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis could see this and perhaps understand where his “Don’t Say Gay” cruelty could lead.

I wish that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis could see this and perhaps understand where his “Don’t Say Gay” cruelty could lead.Even better, perhaps WG could take the ten minutes to find out that there is no "Don't Say Gay" cruelty to begin with. It's just a typical liberal lie for which there is no support at all. Some respect for truth would be a good thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Parental_Rights_in_Education_Act

Even better, perhaps WG could take the ten minutes to find out that there is no "Don't Say Gay" cruelty to begin with.
*cough* Where you been hidin', JL?

HAPPY PRIDE MONTH!!!

https://www.today.com/specials/lgbtq-flags/assets/K8LVTJUZmw/traditional-six-colored-pride-flag-2000x2000.webp

*cough* Where you been hidin', JL?Honoring the truth instead of living in a fantasy world. It just highlights what I dislike about trying to discuss anything with you. You are so driven by ideology that you have no regard for truth. When you are presented with clear evidence that you are wrong, you just laugh that off. You post links that destroy your own POV, and then just laugh about that as well as though it is nothing. That's a world I don't wish to live in under any circumstances.

Then move to Florida. Then you'll see "Don't Say Gay" cruelty.

Perfect example of what I've said. "I have no evidence to support my lie about DeSantis, but if you would just pack up and move to Florida, then I'm sure you would see it."

Ridiculous.

Public school teachers in Florida are banned from holding classroom instruction about sexual orientation or gender identity after Florida's Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, signed the controversial "Parental Rights in Education" bill.

DeSantis and other supporters gathered for the bill signing called this messaging "sloganeering" and referred to efforts to educate students about LGBTQ issues as part of "woke gender ideology."

Studies have shown that LGBTQ youth already face higher health and suicide risks (https://www.hrc.org/news/new-cdc-data-shows-lgbtq-youth-are-more-likely-to-be-bullied-than-straight-cisgender-youth) than their cisgender or straight peers. When those kids are given access to spaces that affirm their gender identity, they report lower rates of suicide attempts, according to The Trevor Project. (https://www.thetrevorproject.org/survey-2021/?section=AffirmingSpaces)
The Trevor Project condemned the signing of the bill saying the bill erases "LGBTQ identity, history, and culture — as well as LGBTQ students themselves."
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089221657/dont-say-gay-florida-desantis

Public school teachers in Florida are banned from holding classroom instruction about sexual orientation or gender identity...If you had bothered to read the second paragraph of your own biased link, you would have discovered that the statement above is not true. "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."


" the bill erases LGBTQ identity, history, and culture — as well as LGBTQ students themselves."Complete, ridiculous lie which is obvious to anyone with any regard for truth.

In your own post you failed to find anything at all suggesting Florida school personnel cannot say the word "gay". Hopefully you will retract that bit of slander.

There is no Don't say gay law . That is a vicious smear . There is a 'Parental Rights in Education Act'

What it does is affirms the rights of parents to be involved in any 'gender identity intervention' between the school and their child.
It bans schools from hiding information about mental health counseling and supports monitoring from parents, except in extreme cases that
would “result in abuse, abandonment, or neglect.”
Before the law there were at least 7 districts that could make gender decisions without parental consent .


The law also bans classroom instruction” on gender identity in kindergarten through third grade .
BOOOO HOO ! Is that unreasonable ? Kindergarten kids should not be taught that period !!!

As the OP says ;Leave them kids alone !




Once the law was enacted all the crazy nut job protests ended in a whisper .

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Zorro the Gay Blade
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I wish I had known about LGBTQ+ back when I was a kid. I would have understood myself and others so much better. It can be calmly and honestly discussed with children, even young ones.

shows the absurdity of the lie that it is a 'don't say gay ' law.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/98/The_Gay_Divorcee_movie_poster.jpg/220px-The_Gay_Divorcee_movie_poster.jpg

straight couple - Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers, 1934 musical film

How do drag queens "groom" kids, especially at storybook readings at public libraries, etc.?

"Grooming" is deliberately sexualizing and manipulating children.
This leads to distorted thinking about their identity, relationships, family, and sexuality.

.The real question is why do Dems defend it ? The real question is why do Dems become so worked up to opposition about those sicko perverts ? The real question is why do Dems defend 200 lb perverts and not little children ?

I would object equally to a female stripper performing in a library while reading books to children .

"Grooming" is deliberately sexualizing and manipulating children.
This leads to distorted thinking about their identity, relationships, family, and sexuality.

.
My question is, do they "groom"? When and where?


I would object equally to a female stripper performing in a library while reading books to children .
Yet thec strippers are mostly nekkid, while the drag queens are fully clothed.

no they are not . They are in thongs shoving their a$$ and junk in kids faces . Come on ! You can't possibly think this is a good idea.

no they are not . They are in thongs shoving their a$$ and junk in kids faces . Come on ! You can't possibly think this is a good idea.
They are not!!! Have you been to one? And there are always teachers or librarians or parents standing or sitting nearby. Picture books are read to the kids.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy7Oj4fSzuI

Watch "The Weakest Link" quiz show tonight. Drag queens will be the contestants. You might learn something.

Why would I watch that trash ? Why would I go to one ? I will not participate in that cultural rot .

Why would I watch that trash ? Why would I go to one ? I will not participate in that cultural rot .
To find out if I'm right or you are. Did you watch the video I posted?

I bet you enjoyed Halloween with your kids. Who came to your door for trick or treat? Crazy, dressed-up monsters and witches and cartoon characters?

Trash because a male is wearing women's clothes? We women wear men's clothes. Do you object to that? We are less submissive then?

To find out if I'm right or you are.Pretty predictable answer there.

49482

I'm sure WG thinks he looks just cute as a button in his short skirt and with his fake breasts.


We women wear men's clothes. Do you object to that?Generally speaking, that is not true. The shirts and pants that women wear are not the same as the shirts and pants that men wear. But aside from that, to use that as justification for men to go around garishly and obscenely dressed as women in front of young children is nonsense. Even worse, there is no good reason at all to do it. The purpose is very clear. It is yet another attempt by the crowd that opposes decency and honor to foist their anti-God policies on the rest of us, including our young children.

49483

Pretty predictable answer there.

I'm sure WG thinks he looks just cute as a button in his short skirt and with his fake breasts.
But they aren't doing what tomder claims they do.


Generally speaking, that is not true. The shirts and pants that women wear are not the same as the shirts and pants that men wear.
What!!! You must enjoy seeing women dressed in tights with underwear lines showing? I wear henley shirts from Eddie Bauer's men's section. Lands' End women's cotton pants.

But aside from that, to use that as justification for men to go around garishly and obscenely dressed as women in front of young children is nonsense. Even worse, there is no good reason at all to do it. The purpose is very clear. It is yet another attempt by the crowd that opposes decency and honor to foist their anti-God policies on the rest of us, including our young children.
Nothing obscene about it. And "The Weakest Link" tonight was really fun!

But they aren't doing what tomder claims they do.

Because demonstrating how to twerk is always important to understanding a child's book .

Drag queen teaches kids to twerk at library story hour - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VA72t7o24I)

Parents' fury as naked man in thigh-high leather boots performs bondage routine in drag... - LBC (https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/cababarave-drag-act-babies-rage/)

I get it . They are desperate for acceptance. So they are playing the long game ....grooming the next generation for societal acceptance. It is in your face and down your throat .

Meanwhile a children's choir was stopped from singing the National Anthem at the US Capitol by the Capitol Police .

Not only were they stopped ;but they were stopped while singing this verse.
O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
Between their lov’d home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with vict’ry and peace may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the power that hath made and preserv’d us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto - “In God is our trust,”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

The Capitol Police stopped them right after they sang “In God is our trust,”

Children's Choir Director Says Capitol Police Stopped Performance (dailysignal.com) (https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/06/02/exclusive-childrens-choir-director-responds-capitol-police-claim-they-did-not-stop-kids-singing-national-anthem/)

Greenville choir stopped at U.S. Capitol - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp9TG8bKPS0)

But they aren't doing what tomder claims they do.True, but neither are they the modestly dressed people you suggest they are. There is simply no good reason for exposing young children, or any children for that matter, to such obscene and perverted displays. What purpose does it serve? It is plainly just an attempt to make that which is deviant appear to be normal in the eyes of children, and that's a sick undertaking.


What!!! You must enjoy seeing women dressed in tights with underwear lines showing? I wear henley shirts from Eddie Bauer's men's section. Lands' End women's cotton pants.What I wrote was completely true. It's why you have a women's clothing section and men's clothing section in stores.

Meanwhile a children's choir was stopped from singing the National Anthem at the US Capitol by the Capitol Police .Their mistake was in not dressing as drag queens. If they had done that, they would have been welcomed!

Because demonstrating how to twerk is always important to understanding a child's book .
Twerking is fun! Kids do it all on their own. Haven't you ever seen a kid, usually a boy, turn his back on another kid and wiggle his butt at them? It's a tease with laughter, maybe it's an insult. What cave you been livin' in, tomder???

True, but neither are they the modestly dressed people you suggest they are.
They're wearing a lot more clothes than I do. And horrors!!! They're men dressed up as women! Evil!!!


What I wrote was completely true. It's why you have a women's clothing section and men's clothing section in stores.
Thus, we are only full male or full female. Nothing else is to be allowed. Tell that to the world of plants, animals, birds, etc. If you want to put a Christian tag on this, chalk it up to the Fall.

I get it . They are desperate for acceptance. So they are playing the long game ....grooming the next generation for societal acceptance. It is in your face and down your throat .
Nope, no desperation for acceptance. When they're contestants on a tv show or characters in soap operas and readily accepted by public libraries for storyhour fun, that's called acceptance.

If you believe in the Bible, then you believe we are male and female. As to animals, in all cases they are identified as male/female on the basis of male/female genitalia. Go figure.


They're men dressed up as women! Evil!!!Now you're catching on!

Excellent article in today's Salon dot com:

https://www.salon.com/2023/06/06/protect-the-kids-exposed-as-a-lie-after-tennessees-drag-ban-gets-knocked-down-by-a/?lh_aid=3547785&lh_cid=yzdr1wtbyh&[email protected]&di=78ed1f956deb9d6cebfd29846b02f898

Yes, don't make reference to the Bible, but go instead to Salon. That speaks volumes.

If you believe in the Bible, then you believe we are male and female. As to animals, in all cases they are identified as male/female on the basis of male/female genitalia. Go figure.
But then, external genitalia don't tell the whole story. Why did I refuse to sit in the junior high classroom at recess time and giggle and gossip wIth my female classmates, but instead was out on the ballfield with the boys, serving as their pitcher? And I have more examples if ya wanna read them.

Now you're catching on!
You're nuts! And I'm a PK!

But then, external genitalia don't tell the whole story. Why did I refuse to sit in the junior high classroom at recess time and giggle and gossip wIth my female classmates, but instead was out on the ballfield with the boys, serving as their pitcher? And I have more examples if ya wanna read them.You're the one who brought up animals. I'm just using your own example. And the fact that you liked to play sports means nothing.


You're nuts! And I'm a PK!Being a PK means absolutely, positively nothing.

You're the one who brought up animals. I'm just using your own example. And the fact that you liked to play sports means nothing.
I've always preferred hanging out with guys instead of girls. Women are giggly, fussbudgety, secretive, too emotional, know-it-all, too passive or passive-agressive.

Being a PK means absolutely, positively nothing.
I've been immersed in Bible teachings since I was three days old.

Clearly it is grooming and indoctrination. That is what this whole so called "Pride Month " is all about .

To celebrate the month I would like to honor Elon Musk who overrode Twitter's ban on the documentary 'What is Women."

I also would like to honor Megyn Kelly who has stepped up to the plate to repudiate transformer indoctrination.

'What is women ' is now the most viewed documentary in history . On the surface it should be self evident . In all of human history there was no question what a woman was . Then the professional activist won their battle with the Obergfell decision . There were no more dragons to slay . So they invented one , albeit one who's dogma contradicts reality .....transformer's rights .

Suddenly SCOTUS nominees did not know how to define 'women' . Biologists squirm because if they give honest answers they are labeled by the woke mob. The instances of non-binary humans are so rare as to be statistical anomalies . They represent genetic defects . They are rare variations in the binary male and female humans .

Film producer Matt Walsh explores all the issues over the transformer movement and settles on nature’s truth, which is the biological makeup of a person as their gender — as opposed to what one simply feels is their gender.

Megyn Kelly initially fell for the transformer propaganda . She has recently apologized for her error . She is fundamentally rejecting the pronoun fake controversy . She calls it a gateway drug. She vows to use her platform to oppose the transformer madness.

In all of human history there was no question what a woman was .
That's not true at all! Indigenous peoples have always embraced "two-spirit" (formerly called the offensive to them, anthropological term, berdach) tribe members.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit#Berdache

David loved Jonathan. Hmm....

In Christian terms, LGBTQ+ have existed since Genesis 3.

In this morning's Chicago Tribune, from an editorial:

In today’s polarized society, women judge each other constantly. We learn from an early age about the importance of our appearance, and we are taught to keep our mouths shut and to “behave like a lady.” Being called “fat” is akin to being called a four-letter word. As women, we are judged if we are deemed unattractive, and we are judged if we are deemed too attractive. We are shamed sexually; if a woman comes out about a sexual assault, she is judged by her fellow women just as she is by men. If we age naturally, other women may say we look like a witch. If we use Botox to reduce wrinkles, they may say, “You’ve ruined your face.”

In Christian terms, LGBTQ+ have existed since Genesis 3.100% false.


David loved Jonathan. Hmm....Except, of course, that there is never so much as a hint that anything sexual existed between them. Even worse, for your POV, is that both were married, both fathered children with their wives, and David's great sin was an adulterous relationship with a WOMAN. So your argument falls flat.

All of this has been shown to you before. You ignore it since you seem to have no real interest in the truth.


“But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ a (https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/10.htm#footnotes) 7 (http://biblehub.com/mark/10-7.htm)‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, b (https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/10.htm#footnotes) 8 (http://biblehub.com/mark/10-8.htm)and the two will become one flesh.’ c (https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/10.htm#footnotes) So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 (http://biblehub.com/mark/10-9.htm)Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

100% false.

Except, of course, that there is never so much as a hint that anything sexual existed between them. Even worse, for your POV, is that both were married, both fathered children with their wives, and David's great sin was an adulterous relationship with a WOMAN. So your argument falls flat.

All of this has been shown to you before. You ignore it since you seem to have no real interest in the truth.
Loving someone doesn't mean having sex with that person. Ask me about people with Asperger's/autism. I'm married to one. My older son is one. No interest in sexual relations because it involves touching, hugging, kissing, connecting to another person.


“But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ a (https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/10.htm#footnotes) 7 (http://biblehub.com/mark/10-7.htm)‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, b (https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/10.htm#footnotes) 8 (http://biblehub.com/mark/10-8.htm)and the two will become one flesh.’ c (https://biblehub.com/niv/mark/10.htm#footnotes) So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 (http://biblehub.com/mark/10-9.htm)Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
And then what happened in Genesis 3? The universe turned upside down.

Loving someone doesn't mean having sex with that person.That is true. I have friends that I love like brothers, but we don't have sex thank goodness.


And then what happened in Genesis 3? The universe turned upside down.You have tried that faulty argument before. It's as wrong-headed as suggesting that rape and child sexual abuse are both OK since, after all, the "universe turned upside down" in Genesis 3. The bottom line is that same-gender sex is never approved of and always, when mentioned, condemned in the Bible. There is absolutely nothing there to commend it. There is not a single instance anywhere where two people of the same gender are sexually involved and the Bible portrays it as an acceptable relationship.

Might add that even an elementary understanding of the differences between men and women biologically make it clear that males and females are intended for each other sexually. It is very clear that two males or two females do not "work" from a sexual perspective.

You have tried that faulty argument before. It's as wrong-headed as suggesting that rape and child sexual abuse are both OK since, after all, the "universe turned upside down" in Genesis 3. The bottom line is that same-gender sex is never approved of and always, when mentioned, condemned in the Bible. There is absolutely nothing there to commend it. There is not a single instance anywhere where two people of the same gender are sexually involved and the Bible portrays it as an acceptable relationship.
Something happened after Adam and Eve took bites outta that darn apple. Genesis 3:22: "And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. " Evil is what God didn't create -- a perfect world.


Might add that even an elementary understanding of the differences between men and women biologically make it clear that males and females are intended for each other sexually. It is very clear that two males or two females do not "work" from a sexual perspective.
But that changed after the Fall.

(1) Sara Gonzales on Twitter: "The @CityOfDallas hosted a “family-friendly” Pride festival. Many children were in attendance. Does this look family-friendly to you?? https://t.co/D2kr1u9GRG" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/SaraGonzalesTX/status/1665118474119659524)

Something happened after Adam and Eve took bites outta that darn apple. Genesis 3:22: "And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. " Evil is what God didn't create -- a perfect world.So same-gender sex is evil. We agree!!



Might add that even an elementary understanding of the differences between men and women biologically make it clear that males and females are intended for each other sexually. It is very clear that two males or two females do not "work" from a sexual perspective.



But that changed after the Fall.The anatomy of men and women was different before the fall than now? Well, I eagerly anticipate your explanation of how it was different, and of how you might happen to know that.

So same-gender sex is evil. We agree!!
Evil like how you check out a woman's body as she walks past you when you're out shopping. Evil like when you buy a gun. Evil like when you yell at your wife.

The anatomy of men and women was different before the fall than now? Well, I eagerly anticipate your explanation of how it was different, and of how you might happen to know that.
What does anatomy have to do with anything? I was responding to your comment, "males and females are intended for each other sexually".


It is very clear that two males or two females do not "work" from a sexual perspective.
Of course they do! I don't want to get kicked off this site, so use your imagination. There are so many ways to achieve sexual satisfaction!

Evil like how you check out a woman's body as she walks past you when you're out shopping. Evil like when you buy a gun. Evil like when you yell at your wife.Nice try. Still, there are many evil actions including same gender sex, so we are in agreement.


What does anatomy have to do with anything? I was responding to your comment, "males and females are intended for each other sexually".Read my post with greater care. It's pretty obvious.


Of course they do! I don't want to get kicked off this site, so use your imagination. There are so many ways to achieve sexual satisfaction!Many men get sexual satisfaction through sex with minors. Doesn't make it right. Anyway, that wasn't the point, and so reread the post until you get it. It is a very simple concept.

Many men get sexual satisfaction through sex with minors. Doesn't make it right. Anyway, that wasn't the point, and so reread the post until you get it. It is a very simple concept.
"Straight" men.

Don't kid yourself.

Don't kid yourself.
Catholic et al. priests/ministers who abuse their altar boys are all gay?

Who said they were?

Who said they were?
According to your thinking, they must be. (Conservative, evangelical, straight males say gay guys groom young males.) Groom the pants off those altar boys!

Here I posted that 2 major hotel chains are leaving down town San Fran .

The Bad Guys Have the Cops on the Run. - Page 2 (askmehelpdesk.com) (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=850734&page=2&p=3891709#post3891709)

What I did not add was that the city is spending $6 million in an ad campaign to lure tourists back .
The campaign features this ad

Always San Francisco - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewSK7IMS554)

Prominent in the ad is of course the Golden Gate Bridge and a bunch of people eating ;drinking and making merry. The pink haired person is drag queen 'Lady Camden';a former contestant on RuPaul's Drag Race.

Well at least they had the good sense to exclude the feces filled crime ridden fentanyl zombified streets near the hotels . .

According to your thinking, they must be. (Conservative, evangelical, straight males say gay guys groom young males.) Groom the pants off those altar boys!Rubbish.


Well at least they had the good sense to exclude the feces filled crime ridden fentanyl zombified streets near the hotels . .I wonder if that might have something to do with San Francisco being one of the fastest shrinking cities in America?

https://sfstandard.com/research-data/san-francisco-bay-area-california-population-decline-census-pandemic-covid/

'What is a Woman ' has been viewed over 157 million times on Twitter .

If Musk had not purchased Twitter, I suppose it would have been viewed zero times. It would have been another casualty of left-wing censors who don't like academic discussions but cheer for drag queens appearing in front of kindergarten students.

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Note the massive turnout for Pride Night in Dodger's Stadium. Nancy Pelosi "threw" out the first pitch.

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standing room only . She threw it like an Olympian Shot Put .

Everyone should watch /listen or read Tucker Carlson's monologue on Twitter

(1) Tucker Carlson on Twitter: "Ep. 2 Cling to your taboos! https://t.co/45AeVdtwOu" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1666928190445477890)


Of course everybody at Instagram, in fact, everyone everywhere in authority will still claim to think that child molestation is bad but the tone has changed unmistakably. When they say it is bad they mean in an abstract way. Bad like a civil war in central Africa is bad. You wouldn't prefer it but there are reasons that it happens. That's why we now refer to pedophiles as minor-attracted persons (MAP) because, honestly, who can judge? These people are a sexual minority so pause before you attack them. And in case it's not like pedophiles are barging into the Capitol Building to sit in Nancy Pelosi's chair or asking uncomfortable questions about the last election. For miscreants like that, no punishment too harsh.

A teacher in NJ has this on her wall .

“If your parents aren’t accepting of your identity, I’m your mom now.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNRvqqVWUAYx1nA?format=jpg&name=small

In NJ ,a second grader studies detailed diagrams of adult genitalia. Middle schoolers are instructed on how to grant consent to anal sex.

New Jersey DOE Adds Anal Sex to Its Learning Standards for Eighth-Graders - NJ Education Report (njedreport.com) (https://njedreport.com/njdoe/new-jersey-doe-adds-anal-sex-to-its-learning-standards-for-eighth-graders/)

Parents objecting to the way their kids are being taught are investigated by the FBI for anti-terrorism.

or here is RI State Senator Tiara Mack
(1) Tiara Mack on Twitter: "Really excited for the house sex ed bill hearing later today. Teaching comprehensive, queer inclusive, pleasure based sex ed was a highlight of my time teaching ✨" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/MackDistrict6/status/1488901829886885892)

Really excited for the house sex ed bill hearing later today. Teaching comprehensive, queer inclusive, pleasure based sex ed was a highlight of my time teaching

That's why we now refer to pedophiles as minor-attracted persons (MAP) because, honestly, who can judge?It's the coming trend, the last frontier. It's just a matter of time before liberals will defend it on this site.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyNnICoaUAEE9Xv?format=jpg&name=small

Funny and yet eerily possible.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyW19nUWcAE2-bY?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyW125tXoAEoD-t?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyXETToWYAEQFOL?format=jpg&name=small

Posted on FB by dwashbur (Sorry if I stole your future post on this site. As a Lutheran PK, this story really angered me.) --

Prominent Louisiana Baptist leader arrested and charged with ‘indecent behavior with juveniles’



https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/5f83634981a1940927f32f433263f323?s=32&d=wp_user_avatar&r=g Sky Palma (https://deadstate.org/author/sky-palma/)
June 10, 2023


https://deadstate.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Collage-Maker-10-Jun-2023-03-04-PM-8392.jpg

A well known leader within the Louisiana Baptist Convention was arrested and charged this Thursday with a string of felonies related to sex crimes against children, WWNY reported (https://www.wwnytv.com/2023/06/09/baptist-official-louisiana-arrested-sex-crime-charges/?outputType=amp).



Daryl Stagg, 60, is currently being held at the Grant Parish Detention Center with his bond set at $500,000. He’s been charged with three counts each of oral sexual battery, first degree rape, aggravated crimes against nature and indecent behavior with juveniles.

The Louisiana Baptist Convention confirmed to WWNY that Stagg the associational mission strategist for some of its branches.

Grant Parish Sheriff Steven McCain said he’s worried there may be more victims.

It’s all sick. Let’s oppose all the sickness. Drag queen or deviant pastor, it’s all sin. At least those Baptists aren't wanting to parade the man around in front of first graders.

It’s all sick. Let’s oppose all the sickness. Drag queen or deviant pastor, it’s all sin. At least those Baptists aren't wanting to parade the man around in front of first graders.
No, he goes after them secretly and sexually abuses them.

OK. So it's fine to put perverts in front of first graders so long as it's not done "secretly". Got it!!

OK. So it's fine to put perverts in front of first graders so long as it's not done "secretly". Got it!!
They aren't perverts! Get a grip, Charles!!

Think again.

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Think again.

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That's perverted???

Absolutely.

How? Why?

Any man dressed up in such a garish and provocative manner is perverted. It's the last kind of example in the world we need to put in front of young boys.

Any man dressed up in such a garish and provocative manner is perverted. It's the last kind of example in the world we need to put in front of young boys.
The parents are told ahead of time and give permission. The picture book readings, the singing, the dancing in place are fun. It's not provocative; it's silly fun, lots of giggles. The over-the-top wigs, makeup, colors, clothes are all put on especially to get those giggles.

Grooming to be what, to do what? Those Halloween trick or treaters, Santa and his elves at the school Christmas party are grooming kids?

As Tucker Carlson said ..... Cling to your Taboos

(1) Tucker Carlson on Twitter: "Ep. 2 Cling to your taboos! https://t.co/45AeVdtwOu" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1666928190445477890)

Yeah, that was a really good observation by TC.

Another practice we should cling to.

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Another practice we should cling to.

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Nope. There are much better and more effective ways to deal with naughty children and teach them to behave. Never spanked my kids, and always got compliments on their good behavior

Won't work. I knew hundreds of families where corporal punishment was used. They were peaceful, orderly, happy families with children that went on the be productive in their lives. That was true of the schools where, as principal, I paddled many kids. The schools were orderly, secure, and happy places. So your isolated experience just won't work .

Not isolated. I raised my kids with Christian love and self respect. I've heard horror stories from grown children and hate for parents, adults who spank.

My principal told me to pull down their pants and whack them on the bare butt. I resigned in late November 1967 after seeing all the tears and even hate that then affected their learning.

That explains it. You were doing it wrong.

I did what I was told to do. I even questioned and offered other ideas. Nope.

Third-grader Debbie would hear a plane fly over, jumped up on her desktop, and waved her arms around over her head, yelling "A plane"!!!

To pull pants down is an outrage. You should never have done that. There is a right way and a wrong way.

It was 1967. Parochial school. And I quit.

The woke culture in a pic.

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Drag Queen story hour .


Four children living in squalid conditions while being hidden from first responders were found in an apartment filled with “alcohol, drugs, sex toys” and a dead man, according to an incident report and outraged officials.“This is sickening,” said At-Large City Councilor Michael Flaherty. “I was informed by people at the scene that there were drugs, alcohol, sex toys all around the apartment as well as a dead body on the floor.”
That fire department report, obtained by the Herald and confirmed by police response, states that a BFD crew was sent to Old Colony Avenue Saturday morning for a call that a man had gone into cardiac arrest and required medical attention. That address is the Mary Ellen McCormack Housing complex run by the city.
However, according to the incident report, firefighters found more than just a routine medical emergency.
“The apartment was in extremely unsanitary conditions. Approximately 6 adults, who appeared to be males, were seen in the apartment,” they wrote, saying they subsequently found “four children in the back bedroom being hidden by an adult male from first responders.”
According to the incident report the children ranged from ages 5 to 10.
Kids, ‘drugs, sex toys,’ dead man in South Boston apartment: ‘Sickening’ (archive.ph) (https://archive.ph/kzIah#selection-1533.0-1553.71)

Multiple sources tell the Herald some of the adults were dressed as women when first responders arrived at the scene.

Yep. Those good ole drag queens are exactly what we need to be putting in front of our young children.

New bill in California Senate (bill 665 ) would allow ;if passed, mental “professionals” to have children forcibly removed from their homes and placed into state custody without the consent of the parents.

Bill Text - AB-665 Minors: consent to mental health services. (ca.gov) (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB665)

State Senator Scott Wiener and State Assemblywoman Wendy Carrillo claim that the bill is only meant to provide 'equal access to mental health services' for all children in the state of California, and could only apply to children who are on Medi-Cal, the state-funded Medicaid program

The bill has made it out of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Under the bill, there would be no obligation for therapist or counselors to prove that a 12 year old is mature enough or in a dangerous enough situation to justify being placed in a “residential shelter.”

There is such a requirement for minors who are on private insurance.

Any decision to inform the parents or withhold such information from them would be left up to the 'mental health professional' involved, even if it is simply an intern or trainee.

Wiener has a long history of introducing pro-LGBTQ++xyz bills , including a bill making it legal to knowingly infect someone with HIV.

California lowers penalty for exposing partners to HIV | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/07/health/california-hiv-bill-signed/index.html)

One could speculate that a 12 year old who thinks they want to change their sex and who have parents who object could then be removed from their parent's custody by the decree of a 'mental health prof

NYC Pride parade “we’re here, we’re queer, we’re coming for your children”

“We’re here, we’re queer, we’re coming for your children.”Yeah, we know. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62J9JIfp2FU)

Only the chronically naïve can fail to see the truth of this matter. It does a great deal to explain why we have drag queens who want to "perform" for kindergartners.

Christie has the issue all wrong. He is being critical of laws that protect children.

“I just don’t want to see our government getting more and more intrusive in everybody’s life, getting bigger,” “I don’t think anything can replace parents when you’re talking about major decisions that are needs to be made by our children.”
What he willingly fails to address is the fact that more and more parents are being left out of the decision process and that is what the laws are designed to address.
Chris Christie Attacks Republican Governors For Banning Child Sex-Change Procedures | The Daily Wire (https://www.dailywire.com/news/chris-christie-attacks-republican-governors-for-banning-child-sex-change-procedures)

It's sad to see how many conservatives are bowing the knee to the pressures of the radical LGBT crowd.

white libs bring their children to public degeneracy

Man twerks for children at pride event in Minessota : r/NoahGetTheBoat (reddit.com) (https://www.reddit.com/r/NoahGetTheBoat/comments/vme4io/man_twerks_for_children_at_pride_event_in/)

PBD Podcast on Twitter: "THIS IS INSANE! Naked men exposing themselves in front of children at Seattle pride. https://t.co/N0Omu2E9Lw" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/PBDsPodcast/status/1673086073097027585)

It's just unbelievable. Who would ever have thought we would be sacrificing our children in this fashion.

NBC ,defending the chant at the NYC Pride parade ,says the chant was lighthearted to poke fun of our perceptions of the perves . Aint no biggie

‘We’re Coming For Your Children’ chant at NYC Drag March elicits outrage, but activists say it’s taken out of context (nbcnews.com) (https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/nbc-out-proud/re-coming-children-chant-nyc-drag-march-elicits-outrage-activists-say-rcna91341?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=649b7b94f8ccd40001c2880a&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)

If it has been used for years does that make it acceptable? 'Hey what's the big deal .... we've been targeting your children for years even though you just found out about it '

NBC ,defending the chant at the NYC Pride paradeIs anyone surprised that NBC would step up to defend this? To be fair, I don't think the average homosexual is out to target children, but I do suspect the activist side of that group does have it as a goal. And that's not to mention the significant number of straight men who would like to see the age of consent reduced to some figure below 16.

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What chance do we have against perversion when creepy Joe aka Chester the molester , is perv in chief ?

Joe Biden "creepily" nibbles child's shoulder in Finland (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2023/07/14/joe-biden-creepily-nibbles-childs-shoulder-in-finland/)

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A lot more than that is done. HRT, surgery, voice coaching, electrolyosis, and more. Plus, it's very expensive.

What chance do we have against perversion when creepy Joe aka Chester the molester , is perv in chief ?

Joe Biden "creepily" nibbles child's shoulder in Finland (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2023/07/14/joe-biden-creepily-nibbles-childs-shoulder-in-finland/)
At least he didn't grab her by the pu$$y....


I don't think the average homosexual is out to target children, but I do suspect the activist side of that group does have it as a goal.
Nope, it's hetero men who target children.

A lot more than that is done. HRT, surgery, voice coaching, electrolyosis, and more.

In a small minority of cases that is true. This site, a thoroughly biased one, says 19%, meaning it is less, no doubt, than 19%. And note that it is merely referring to "some form of gender confirmation surgery."

Just out of curiosity, do you ever try to research any of your statements you make here?

https://www.sdlgbtn.com/how-many-transgender-adults-in-the-us-have-had-gender-confirmation-surgery/


Nope, it's hetero men who target children.It's both. The young boys are almost always targeted by the gay crowd. To deny that is plain silliness. According to this site, about 1/3 of children forced into the sex trade are boys.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/24/999726614/growing-number-of-male-survivors-talk-about-being-a-sex-trade-victim

If you haven't seen the movie Sound of Freedom, then see it at the earliest possible time. It's a shocking move which should be seen by everyone.

Research? Yes, interviews with and personal revelations by transgenders.

You do realize, don't you, that no one is 100% male or female.

I realize that is an absurd comment.

Talking with people informally is not research.

Who writes research articles? People.

Examining altered genitals and other body parts isn't research?

Who writes research articles? People.People...who have actually done the research, and have done it the right way.


Examining altered genitals and other body parts isn't research?By you??? No. Fulfilling a curiosity is not research.

I love how you spin. I think I'll write a fairytale about you.


People...who have actually done the research, and have done it the right way.

By you??? No. Fulfilling a curiosity is not research.
I have credentials for valid researching.

You post enough fairy tales here already.

You and research? Nah.

If tomder had said what I did, you'd be kissing his feet.

If tomder had said what I did,What are you referring to?

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If tomder had said what I did, you'd be kissing his feet.




Agree or disagree with my conclusions ;I back up what I write with at least one linked source and often multiple sources .

Very true. Fact is, Tom would not make comments such as, "You do realize, don't you, that no one is 100% male or female," or suggest that chats with TG individuals (and examining their "altered genitals"?) somehow amounts to "research".

A Federal Judge has denied parents their rights again.



Senior United States District Judge John A. Mendez dismissed a lawsuit Tuesday in which a Chico woman claimed the Chico Unified School District socially transitioned her child without her informed consent, therefore violating her constitutional rights.

Federal judge dismisses gender transition lawsuit against CUSD – Chico Enterprise-Record (chicoer.com) (https://www.chicoer.com/2023/07/12/court-dismisses-gender-transition-lawsuit-against-cusd/)

This is in line with the Dems thesis explained by Evita
It Takes a Village | Book by Hillary Rodham Clinton | Official Publisher Page | Simon & Schuster (simonandschuster.com) (https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/It-Takes-a-Village/Hillary-Rodham-Clinton/9781416540649)

And more recently by Clueless Joe .
“There's no such thing as someone else's child.” “Our nation's children are all our children.”

Daily Wire on Twitter: "Biden: "There's no such thing as someone else's child. Our nation's children are all our children!" https://t.co/0jaCY8MeMx" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1650571132313952264?lang=en)

“The issue before this Court is not whether it is a good idea for school districts to notify parents of a minor’s gender identity and receive consent before using alternative names and pronouns, but whether the United States Constitution mandates such parental authority,” the order reads. “This Court holds that it does not.”Might be time for a constitutional amendment. In the meantime, parents must realize that, in many states, sending your kids to government schools is not a good idea.

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Do you shun the LGBTQ+ members of your family?

The really terrible thing about that movie is that it is Hollywood directing its propaganda efforts at children. Men are bad, gender is fluid, race is a big deal, and only women are strong. Sigh. It's sad that people will waste their money to see Snow White, and yet make no effort to see Sound of Freedom.

I don't shun anyone in my family, but neither do I encourage their immoral behavior. Come to think of it, I don't encourage my OWN immoral behavior either.

I don't shun anyone in my family, but neither do I encourage their immoral behavior.
It isn't immoral. If it is, then being lefthanded is immoral. Wearing glasses or contacts is immoral. Being divorced is immoral. Shall I go on???

Depends. What standard of morality are you appealing to?

Depends. What standard of morality are you appealing to?
Mother Nature is in charge right now. That will end soon, I hope.

Appealing to Mother Nature is not an appeal to a moral code. It is basically saying, "I have no idea". The only code for Mother Nature is the survival of the fittest.

Appealing to Mother Nature is not an appeal to a moral code. It is basically saying, "I have no idea". The only code for Mother Nature is the survival of the fittest.
Mother Nature destroyed the moral code. Read Genesis.

That idea is found nowhere in Genesis or any other place in the Bible.

Free will. "I can do whatever my body tells me to do, whatever I want to do, whatever I feel like doing."

Genesis

Then the Ten Commandments were given in an attempt to rein in personal desires. They didn't solve the problem.

Hmm, what was the next solution that was tried?

"I can do whatever my body tells me to do, whatever I want to do, whatever I feel like doing."A made up quote found nowhere in the Bible does nothing to help your case.


Then the Ten Commandments were given in an attempt to rein in personal desires. They didn't solve the problem.I thought you said MN did away with a moral code. If that is so, then how do you explain the Ten Commandments? They are certainly a moral code.

So again, what moral code are you appealing to in your effort to make practically anything and everything sexually OK? It sounds like you are simply putting forward your own personal beliefs. Correct?

A made up quote found nowhere in the Bible does nothing to help your case.
Free will. No moral code.


I thought you said MN did away with a moral code. If that is so, then how do you explain the Ten Commandments? They are certainly a moral code.

I said MN has no moral code. "Then the Ten Commandments were given in an attempt to rein in personal desires."


So again, what moral code are you appealing to in your effort to make practically anything and everything sexually OK? It sounds like you are simply putting forward your own personal beliefs. Correct?

Mother Nature is in charge right now.

So it's exactly as I said. You have no moral code to appeal to other than "Mother Nature", which of course is no code at all. I have learned to always ask moralizers what moral code they are appealing to. There is scarcely ever a sensible answer, and that is what has happened here. It's just your own personal views masquerading as morality.

So it's exactly as I said. You have no moral code to appeal to other than "Mother Nature", which of course is no code at all. I have learned to always ask moralizers what moral code they are appealing to. There is scarcely ever a sensible answer, and that is what has happened here. It's just your own personal views masquerading as morality.
Apparently, you can't read and comprehend.

In early Genesis, mankind was given free will. There was no moral code at the time. Time passed. God, Who saw humanity taking advantage of others because of free will, gave Moses the Ten Commandments, a moral code of "do"s and "don't"s. That still didn't end the abuses done because of free will. God had yet another solution up His sleeve.

And still you have no moral code to appeal to. Hmm. It’s as I have said repeatedly.

Your vague appeal to Genesis helps you none at all. Your personal insult of me also helps you none at all. So you have nothing.

And still you have no moral code to appeal to. Hmm. It’s as I have said repeatedly.
Did you actually read my response??? I said the TEN COMMANDMENTS was the moral code.


Your vague appeal to Genesis helps you none at all. Your personal insult of me also helps you none at all. So you have nothing.
VAGUE APPEAL TO GENSIS??? Are you suffering from Alzheimer's?

Ok. So where do you find moral permission for LGBT in the Ten Commandments?

if you cannot, then that cannot be your appeal to a moral standard, now can’t it?

Ok. So where you find moral permission for LGBT in the Ten Commandments?
There's no commandment to say it's wrong.

So that cannot be your appeal. It would be as silly as saying that rape is fine since it’s not prohibited in the Ten Commandments. That means you are still lacking a moral code that applies. Keep working.

You know and I know that you have only your own views.

Rape is prohibited in the Ten Commandments because the rapist is having sex with someone he or she is not married to, thereby breaking the sixth commandment.

Same is true of same sex relations. Same is true of all non-marital sex relations. I’m happy you have seen the light.

Same is true of same sex relations. Same is true of all non-marital sex relations. I’m happy you have seen the light.
The LGBTQ+ people I know are more moral than the cis people I know.

You are evading the issue. The moral code you said you appeal to says they are not moral. They are, according to you, breaking the sixth commandment.


having sex with someone he or she is not married to, thereby breaking the sixth commandment.

You are evading the issue. The moral code you said you appeal to says they are not moral. They are, according to you, breaking the sixth commandment.
That makes no sense. Who is not moral, and who is breaking the sixth commandment?

Your own words.


having sex with someone he or she is not married to, thereby breaking the sixth commandment.That would include same-gender sexual arrangements. Correct? Breaking the sixth commandment. Correct? All according to you. Correct???

Your own words.

That would include same-gender sexual arrangements. Correct? Breaking the sixth commandment. Correct? All according to you. Correct???
Cis-gender do it all the time. And brag about it.

And I covered that above when I wrote, "Same is true of all non-marital sex relations." The point is that the moral code you claim you subscribe to says that non-marital sexual relations are breaking a commandment. That was your statement and your assertion. Still stand by it?

This is why, dear WG, I believe liberals do not like to mention a moral code. It always ends up with them being painted into a corner that they find distasteful.

I was as clear as I could be, but you twisted my words and cherry-picked with your usual pizzaz.

Yes indeed you were clear. I did not twist your words, I quoted them. "...having sex with someone he or she is not married to, thereby breaking the sixth commandment." So I will ask again. The moral code you claim you subscribe to says, according to you, that non-marital sexual relations are breaking a commandment. That was your statement and your assertion. Still stand by it?

Clearly the point of this cartoon op ed is missed. Disney franchise was built on turning folk tails like Grimms Brother's into cartoons and movies that the majority of the movie going crowd could watch and be entertained.

The dwarfs and Cinderella were characters in Grimms Brothers stories. Disney turned those stories into content. It was a model that worked because it was clean entertainment that the majority could relate to . Disney had a brand that was successful for multiple generations. Then they forgot who their audience was.

Last quarter Disney lost $659 million.

As WSJ wrote.... 'When revenue is declining anyway, it doesn’t help to alienate half your audience with political posturing.'



In its new rendition, the seven dwarfs are recast as “magical creatures” of various races and ethnicities, and Latina actress Rachel Zegler reprises the princess whose skin in the Brothers Grimm tale is “white as snow.” There’s nothing wrong with casting a diverse crew, but Disney is refashioning a classic fairy tale merely to virtue signal.
Consider its 2017 live-action remake of “Beauty and the Beast,” which recast Gaston’s sidekick, LeFou, as gay. A 2022 Toy Story spin-off, “Lightyear,” included a scene of two lesbians kissing. The scene had been edited out but was restored (https://variety.com/2022/film/news/pixar-lightyear-same-sex-kiss-1235209179/) after enough Disney employees complained that it had been “censored.”
The Disney+ streaming service warns that animated classics such as “Dumbo,” “Peter Pan” and “Jungle Book” include “negative depictions and/or mistreatment of people or cultures” that “were wrong then and are wrong now.” Thanks for the trigger warning, but most parents don’t need to be hit over the head with things they already know. Yet that’s what Disney’s newer films, along with most Hollywood productions, do: They hit you over the head with left-wing cultural mores—over and over again.


Wokeness Hobbles Disney as It Faces the Streaming Challenge - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/wokeness-hobbles-disney-as-it-faces-the-streaming-challenge-bob-iger-snow-white-7e1ac436)

For sure Disney has made other mistakes like bungling it's entry into streaming ;and carrying brands like ESPN that are outside it's successful model. But it's biggest blunder is to try to force fringe ideas down our throats . The little success they have had in streaming is parents choosing to show their old classics to the next generation. That should give them a hint about what they got right in the past ;and what they are doing wrong now.

Disney classics are classics because they discreetly impart virtues through parables. The mirror on the wall dubs Snow White the “fairest one of them all” not because of her skin color, but because of her magnanimous character, which she demonstrates in her kindness toward the dwarfs.


One of the trivia questions that would stump was naming the dwarfs. Hint ..... Not one of them was named Sleezy..

I don't know that it's a business model for Disney as much as the world view of those who run the place. When they put out a movie, it has basically become a propaganda effort to convert the unwashed masses to their enlightened point of view. They sat on the movie Sound of Freedom for several year until the makers of the film managed to gain access to it and release it through a different company. It passed 100 million in revenues last week, so Disney made a foolish decision from a business perspective.

The owners and the boards make the business model . If managers are not following the model they should be dismissed. That largely happened when they brought back Bob Iger for a 2 year restructure. Iger thinks it is a structure problem due to streaming failure and park upgrades . He is ignoring woke content . As an example ;he is scrapping the very popular Splash Mountain ;which was based on the now controversial 'Song of the South ' (watch it if you can find a copy . It is delightful) . It is being replaced by 'Tiana’s Bayou Adventure' ;a water themed ride based on 'The Princess and the Frog'. Tiana is an African -American princesses.

Why Splash Mountain closed at Disneyland, World; what's replacing ride (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2023/05/31/splash-mountain-disneyland-closing/70272290007/)

Iger will select the next generation of Disney Execs . If they continue to go woke they will go broke.

For your viewing pleasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b78w1UIdhI


Walt Disney World closed its version of the ride on Jan. 22. There are currently no plans to change Splash Mountain at Tokyo Disney Resort.Evidently racism is OK in Japan.

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The really startling thing about that cartoon is that it would have made no sense to anyone ten or fifteen years ago.

Evidently, it is acceptable in public libraries to have drag queens appear, but not acceptable for accomplished actors and athletes to come to read to children. How on earth did we end up in this situation? Let's see if the people of Huntsville will get this sorry state of affairs corrected. Perhaps Kirk Cameron could try dressing up like a street walker and Riley Gaines could insist she is actually a male cowboy. Maybe then they'd let them in?


Just two days ahead of a planned stop at Madison Public Library in Huntsville, Alabama (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/us-regions/southeast/alabama), on Saturday, actor-writer Kirk Cameron, along with his publisher, Brave Books, and special guest, women's sports advocate Riley Gaines, have learned that they will not be welcome due to the library system's concerns about logistics and safety ahead of the gathering.
The Huntsville-Madison County Public Library System said in a release on Wednesday afternoon that it can no longer accommodate the book reading event (https://www.foxnews.com/category/lifestyle/lifestyle-books). The Brave Books team said it is challenging the conclusion.
In a press release, the library system said, "The Moms for Liberty organization had planned to feature Brave Books in a meeting room at Madison Public Library [this coming Saturday]. Due to the event’s anticipated attendance increasing beyond the Library’s capacity, the Library will be unable to host the event."
https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/canceled-kirk-cameron-riley-gaines-learn-alabama-library-cannot-host-them-book-event

Now let's read the rest of that article:

The release continued, "Initially, the organizers of the event reported 20 attendees to library officials. On Tuesday the Library learned that event organizers are now expecting over 300 people, a number that far exceeds any meeting room capacity within the Huntsville-Madison County Library System."

It went on, "After discussing the logistics of the event with both the Library and the event organizer, the Madison City Police Department and the Madison City Fire Marshal have recommended that the event be held at an alternate location."

I would think that reasonable people would simply have placed a limit on attendance to match the facility. It’s done all the time.

I would think that reasonable people would simply have placed a limit on attendance to match the facility. It’s done all the time.
Limit 20 people to.see actor-writer Kirk Cameron, along with his publisher, Brave Books, and special guest, women's sports advocate Riley Gaines?????????

And your point is?

I guess it will all be worked out in court. This is what Cameron's attorney alleges.

"As you are aware, Brave Books has encouraged Americans across the country tohost, “See You at the Library Day” at their local libraries. Until yesterday, you supportedthe event in Huntsville, AL at every step, including offering a large room at the MadisonPublic Library branch to accommodate the 250 local residents who plan to attend.However, upon learning that Mr. Cameron and his friend and Brave Books author, RileyGaines, will be attending in person, you abruptly cancelled the event citing “securityconcerns” from a potential protest of Mr. Cameron and claiming the event exceeds thelibrary’s capacity."

And your point is?
You lied.

I did? How so?

WG alleged, "You lied."

I questioned, "I did? How so?"

Answer...crickets.

It really does get a little old.


Back to the topic, I imagine this was a core reason for the cancellation. "...you abruptly cancelled the event citing 'security concerns' from a potential protest of Mr. Cameron."

Post #180.

Post #188.

If not for it being a Kirk Cameron and Riley Gaines event ;they would've found a way .

Yeah, I think that's right. The whole room capacity thing just seems to be a convenient excuse. Worst case scenario should be the library saying, "Our largest room only seats 100 (or whatever), so that will be the limit allowed in." It's interesting how the library's response is significantly different from what Cameron's attorney alleged happened.

The library said their room seats only 20.

And the article makes perfect sense. Too bad the library people didn't guess beforehand that more than 20 people would be interested in attending.

The library said their room seats only 20.
The library did not say that, or at least not that I could find. Can you post the quote?

It's curious to me that a library would not be THRILLED to find out that instead of 20 people attending a book reading, it would be two or three hundred, and that they would do everything possible to make it work. Let them schedule TWO sessions if need be. I would think that would be looked at as a victory for reading by a library that is supposed to promote reading. Alas, it would not have been a positive for the business of drag queen popularization. Bummer.

Perhaps they should have consulted their own website which says they have seating for from 122 to 225, depending on how the room is configured. They list no room that only seats 20.

https://hmcpl.org/reserve/setupoptions

The library did not say that, or at least not that I could find. Can you post the quote?
From the article:

In a press release, the library system said, "The Moms for Liberty organization had planned to feature Brave Books in a meeting room at Madison Public Library [this coming Saturday]. Due to the event’s anticipated attendance increasing beyond the Library’s capacity, the Library will be unable to host the event."

The release continued, "Initially, the organizers of the event reported 20 attendees to library officials. On Tuesday the Library learned that event organizers are now expecting over 300 people, a number that far exceeds any meeting room capacity within the Huntsville-Madison County Library System."


It's curious to me that a library would not be THRILLED to find out that instead of 20 people attending a book reading, it would be two or three hundred, and that they would do everything possible to make it work.
Yes, the event will be moved to a larger space.

So in your quote, in no place did the library say the room would only seat 20. You misstated that. They did make the plea that they could not seat 300, but there was nothing about a room only seating 20.

I hope the library will cooperate, but I have seen nothing to indicate that they will. I do suspect they would have been more helpful for a drag queen show, but perhaps not. It's only my sense of it.

This doesn't look good for the library's position.

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https://1819news.com/news/item/showdown-in-madison-moms-for-liberty-plans-to-move-forward-with-kirk-cameron-reading-event-questions-capacity-excuse-were-not-backing-down

The library, under legal pressure, is doing the right thing.


On Friday afternoon the library sent this statement: "The Huntsville-Madison County Public Library has agreed with event coordinators, Moms for Liberty, to accommodate their planned meeting on Saturday, August 5, 2023, at the Madison Library with a limit of 225 attendees," the library said.
"In the interest of public safety, Madison Police and the Madison Fire Marshal will be on hand to manage any logistical needs."
So turns out they had a big room after all. How about that.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/alabama-library-caves-after-brave-books-and-kirk-cameron-stand-up-to-its-attempt-to-deny-americans-a-venue/ar-AA1eO4ym

It'll be interesting to see if the library staff decides to do all of this in as uncooperative a manner as possible, or will they work professionally and helpfully.

I'm still perplexed as to why this library staff had to have their collective arm twisted behind their back to force them to have a large reading activity at their facility.

Emily Jones, chair of the Madison County chapter of Moms for Liberty (the event coordinator) tells AFN: "We have made slight adjustments to what we were originally planning, so we will have 225 people who will meet at the big auditorium that is at the back of the [Huntsville-Madison County] Library .... The plan is to have the additional people go to a secondary location [currently being arranged] and then Riley and Kirk will be at both locations."This sure raises the question of why in the world the library didn't just do this from the very beginning. I can't help but feel that three drag queens would have enjoyed the full cooperation of the library staff. Turns out they could seat a LOT more than 20. Might add that the projected attendance reflects upon what is, I hope, a growing wave of pro Christian-values that could very well be developing in our country.

The rule of law prevailed in Huntsville. 49515

Hannah Arensman is a 35 time cycling champ. But at the young age of 25 years old she is leaving the sport . Why ?

Her statement says it all ......

“I was born into a family of athletes,” “Encouraged by my parents and siblings, I competed in sports from a young age, and I followed in my sister’s footsteps, climbing the ranks to become an elite cyclocross racer. Over the past few years, I have had to race directly with male cyclists in women’s events.”
“As this has become more of a reality, it has become increasingly discouraging to train as hard as I do only to have to lose to a man with the unfair advantage of an androgenized body that intrinsically gives him an obvious advantage over me, no matter how hard I train,” I have decided to end my cycling career.” "

At my last race at the recent UCI Cyclocross National Championships in the elite women’s category in December 2022, I came in 4th place, flanked on either side by male riders awarded 3rd and 5th places. My sister and family sobbed as they watched a man finish in front of me, having witnessed several physical interactions with him throughout the race."

“Additionally, it is difficult for me to think about the very real possibility I was overlooked for an international selection on the US team at Cyclocross Worlds in February 2023 because of a male competitor.
“Moving forward, I feel for young girls learning to compete and who are growing up in a day when they no longer have a fair chance at being the new record holders and champions in cycling because men want to compete in our division. I have felt deeply angered, disappointed, overlooked, and humiliated that the rule makers of women’s sports do not feel it is necessary to protect women’s sports to ensure fair competition for women anymore.”

Transgender cyclist Austin Killips wins women's race, causes outrage (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2023/05/02/transgender-cyclist-austin-killips-wins-womens-race-causes-outrage/)


VDH had comments on that too.

The heterosexual male and female, marriage, and the nuclear family are all to be suspect. There are three sexes or perhaps still more. English language pronouns are inadequate to reflect sexual diversity.

So adherence to such ossified languages is career endangering. An epidemic of childlessness, singlehood, and collapsing fertility rates are either of no national importance or illustrate the preferred non-nuclear family model. Powerful hormonal drug regimens and permanent radical sex-change surgery should be the choices of minors alone who know best when they choose to transition to another sex. Graphic sex manuals and drag queen shows with simulated sex acts can perhaps acculturate preteens to the dangers of growing up in an oppressive “normative” binary society.
Sex, but not race, is constructed, and thus a matter not of biology but of individual choice.




The Remaking of America › American Greatness (amgreatness.com) (https://amgreatness.com/2023/08/07/the-remaking-of-america/)

Isn't it amazing that the people who fought so hard (and sometimes unreasonably) for women's rights are now so willing to throw it all aside just to look chic by adopting the latest fad?

Intersectionality dilemma ., Queer Martina Navratilova called out the US Tennis Association for allowing transformers to compete in women's sports .

Martina Navratilova blasts US Tennis Association after transgender star Alicia Rowley won women's national tournament and claims the sport is 'not for failed male athletes' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-12378079/Martina-Navratilova-blasts-Tennis-Association-transgender-star-Alicia-Rowley-won-womens-national-tournament-claims-sport-not-failed-male-athletes.html)

Quess the Q and the T don't see eye to eye

Yep. There’s a fissure in the ole acronym.

Gotta give those dems credit for their deep belief in tolerance.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1688694138831568896

Title IX down the toilet . Cluless Joe is trying to codify transformer participation in women's sports through Title IX revisions . Even transformer Bruce Jenner is opposed to the changes .

Caitlyn Jenner calls Joe Biden's Title IX proposal an attempt to 'destroy women’s sports' | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/caitlyn-jenner-calls-joe-bidens-title-ix-proposal-attempt-destroy-womens-sports)

News out of Aussie is right out of the Onion.

A woman who had previously given birth decided she was a he . So she scheduled transformer surgery . The problem was that she was pregnant at the time of the operation. Now she blames the hospital for not doing appropriate tests even though her answers on a questionnaire 'about any recent menstrual or sexual activity' suggested that was not a risk.

'We had no signs that I was pregnant. I thought I was having reflux and it turned out that it was morning sickness,'

Female-to-male patient loses baby during hysterectomy at Royal Women's Hospital Melbourne because he didn't know he was pregnant | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12387829/Female-male-patient-loses-baby-hysterectomy-Royal-Womens-Hospital-Melbourne-didnt-know-pregnant.html?ito=push-notification&ci=uZZtKNubVd&cri=4k5iJlF9po&si=7AYRRtSfppYc&xi=da34adf6-ca7b-468f-a2c5-9cd66983e485&ai=12387829)

"because he didn't know he was pregnant" Just about says it all for the delusion this current age is under.

What chance does this poor kid have? And when did it become a crime to say a female police officer looked like a lesbian? For that matter, why would it be a crime even if the kid was homophobic? This goes beyond viewpoint discrimination to viewpoint persecution.


Police in the United Kingdom arrested a teenage girl, whose mother said she has Autism, after the child made remarks that one of the officers resembled a lesbian on Monday, according to a video of the incident.
"She's getting arrested," a West Yorkshire police officer told the child's mother. "She's autistic," the mother replied.

When the autistic girl proceeded to hit herself in the head, the mother pleaded with police to maintain their distance.
"She's in her cupboard, she can't go anywhere," the mom said, explaining that her child was being triggered into a mental health crisis by direct contact. She explained that the child's "nanna" is a lesbian and married to a woman.
"Go away," the mom said. "She's not homophobic. Go away from my teenage daughter."
"There's something wrong with you," the mom told an officer.

West Yorkshire Police had brought the girl home after a relative of the girl contacted them that she was intoxicated in at a nearby a shopping hub, authorities said.
"Upon returning her to the address, comments were made which resulted in the girl being arrested on suspicion of a homophobic public order offense. The nature of the comments made was fully captured on body-worn video," police said

What a sad day it is when Canadians subject students to having to work around such as this.

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What a sad day it is when Canadians subject students to having to work around such as this.

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My Ontario, Canada friend told me that inside sources have revealed it's actually an Ontario right-wing nut retaliating against perceived liberalism.

My friend continued, "There’s such a negative American influence that bubbles up to the surface here. School districts want teachers & admins to be LGBTQ sensitive, so a teacher pulls such a 'stunt' & gets mad at backlash."

F Troop - It is balloon... on Make a GIF (https://makeagif.com/gif/f-troop-it-is-balloon-F-aEWL)

My Ontario, Canada friend told me that inside sources have revealed it's actually an Ontario right-wing nut retaliating against perceived liberalism.Yeah. Those "inside sources" strike again. I guess they got tired of spreading stories about alien abductions.

Meanwhile, the Canadians have evidently discovered the rubber-room of NYC public schools. The individual is no longer on active duty, but is still employed. Surprised, anyone? The students, last on the list of consideration, will continue to suffer from this idiocy.


A teacher at the centre of a controversy over images that appear to show them wearing large prosthetic breasts in the classroom is no longer on an active assignment but remains employed by the board.
A spokesperson for the Halton District School Board (https://www.hdsb.ca/Pages/Home.aspx) confirmed the news on Thursday.
The spokesperson, however, refused to say when the teacher’s assignment at Oakville Trafalgar High School (https://oth.hdsb.ca/) came to an end, calling it a “personnel matter.”



“While not currently on an active assignment, the teacher remains employed with the HDSB. We continue to support the teacher in partnership with OSSTF,” Heather Francey said.


Oakville teacher who wears large prosthetic breasts no longer at school | CTV News (https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/teacher-at-centre-of-dress-code-controversy-no-longer-working-at-oakville-school-1.6296336)

Yeah. Those "inside sources" strike again. I guess they got tired of spreading stories about alien abductions.
Actually, it makes total sense. I just couldn't wrap my head around a truly trans person dressing like that. It's overkill (over-boobed?). It has to be a very bad joke, I reasoned. Who would satirize transitioning? Aha! There's my answer!

(The teacher will be allowed to resume teaching if HE agrees to behave HIMSELF and dress appropriately. If not, he may be required to dress like Pennywise. Then we can all shout together, "Satirize as Pennywise!!!")

If a man had sick fantasies fetish of being a women then he probably has even sicker fantasies of being a big breasted woman. The tragedy is that it is now acceptable to mutilate to that end.

If a man had sick fantasies fetish of being a women then he probably has even sicker fantasies of being a big breasted woman. The tragedy is that it is now acceptable to mutilate to that end.
Nope, tom. He was doing his best to make fun of transitioning. Similarly, if a female teacher came to school with an enormous bulge (below the waist) ballooning out of her black soft cotton leggings, she wouldn't be wishing but would be making fun.

Weird, transgender individual wears obscenely large breast prosthetics to school with the result that the liberal school board decides to support (SARC) him/her. Yeah, it just has to be the fault of a conservative! Now no credible source has reported that, but we have some insider, super-secret information on it!! I have super-secret insider info that the FBI will be sending in agents any day now. I used my decoder ring to get that information.

Coming next will be the location of Hoffa's body.

He claims he started taking hormones in 2021 to be a transformer . The he claimed he has a condition called “gigantomastia” . That sounds bogus to me but it should be easily verifiable.

He's a sicko regardless .

Now because the equivalent of the rubber room he gets paid for doing nothing when either way he should've been canned . No wonder are kids are getting screwed up .We allow this garbage to happen.

Weird, transgender individual wears obscenely large breast prosthetics to school with the result that the liberal school board decides to support (SARC) him/her.
Nope! They like the teacher but not his behavior, thus he's off duty until he can clothe himself appropriately.

(Would a conservative school board be so kind to and understanding of a liberal teacher who dressed as Trump with a hangman's noose around his neck?)

They like the teacher but not his behavior,And you know this how??? More super-secret insider info?


(Would a conservative school board be so kind to and understanding of a liberal teacher who dressed as Trump with a hangman's noose around his neck?)We have liberal teachers in both of these instances, and a stupid school board as well. None of this bizarre, putrid behavior should ever be tolerated, much less encouraged, by a school board.


Now because the equivalent of the rubber room he gets paid for doing nothing when either way he should've been canned . No wonder are kids are getting screwed up .We allow this garbage to happen.Well said.

It gets even crazier. The teacher, it turns out, does not always wear these devices outside of school. Despite that, he attempts to insist that they are not "fake".


“I’m not wearing prosthetic breasts. These are real. My condition is classified as gigantomastia (https://nypost.com/2023/02/19/canadian-teacher-with-size-z-breasts-kayla-lemieux-claims-they-are-real/), which can also be referred to as macromastia or breast hypertrophy,” she said, although she denied having any proof of the condition.Why would Canada allow such a whack-o to teach Canadian children? It's outrageous.

Who is Kayla Lemieux, trans teacher with Z-size prosthetic breasts? (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/article/who-is-kayla-lemieux-trans-teacher-with-prosthetic-breasts/)

Here is the man absent the fake breasts and fake hair.

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It gets even crazier. The teacher, it turns out, does not always wear these devices outside of school. Despite that, he attempts to insist that they are not "fake".

Why would Canada allow such a whack-o to teach Canadian children? It's outrageous.
That's what I indicated in Post #214 et al.; he's a he. The school board apparenly wants him as a teacher but not dressed as a "woman", plus they don't want to rile the conservatives.

From the NYPost article cited in the previous post, "Several incensed parents asked the Halton District School Board to introduce a dress code for teachers but the woke board initially rejected it due to concerns about violating Ontario’s Human Rights Code."

they don't want to rile the conservatives.If that was their ambition, then to say they failed totally would be the understatement of the century. The truth is, of course, that pleasing conservative parents was the last thing on their minds.


he's a heThey all are.

They all are.
Nope. Mother Nature got busy with our bodies after God gave the universe free will.

Yes, we've heard all of that before. There is, at present, no more evidence of that than in the past. It's completely baseless speculation.

Yes, we've heard all of that before. There is, at present, no more evidence of that than in the past. It's completely baseless speculation.
Then what's your take on it? (Btw, do you wear glasses or contacts?)

The effect of sin in our culture and the deception of the domain of darkness.

Glasses and contacts have a perfectly solid medical explanation. A man claiming to be a woman does not. To conflate the two is a false comparison by a mile and a half.

If a man or woman's chromosomes are screwed up and their brain screams, "I'm not the gender I look like when naked," then what?

They need a check up from the neck up . They don't need radical mutilation surgery

If a man or woman's chromosomes are screwed upBut you have not been able to establish that as being true. There is no evidence at all of any connection between chromosomal disorders and TG. You're just grasping at straws.


their brain screams, "I'm not the gender I look like when nakedThen they need counseling and someone to assure them, "Yes, you actually are." As an adult, they are free to do as they choose, but they are not free to compel the rest of us to participate in their sad delusion.

Then they need counseling and someone to assure them

Agree .The only problem is these nut job so called psycho-logist doctors who have themselves gone insane and say with a straight face that a child can be born into the wrong body.

Agree .The only problem is these nut job so called psycho-logist doctors who have themselves gone insane and say with a straight face that a child can be born into the wrong body.That one made me laugh out loud, and yet sadly it is all too often true.

I'm betting you each have at least one relative/in law in the LGBTQ+ (yes, even transgender) community. And, of course, because of your closed mind and hostile attitude, you will never be privy to that information and will go blissfully into that dark night believing humans, animals, insects, and plants are only binary.

because of your closed mind and hostile attitude, you will never be privy to that information and will go blissfully into that dark night believing humans, animals, insects, and plants are binary.It never fails. When a person discovers that he or she has no compelling arguments, they generally turn to personal insults with references to a "closed mind" or a "hostile attitude". As far as me "believing humans, animals, insects, and plants are binary," I plead guilty since science clearly shows that to be true.

You asked this earlier. "...their brain screams, 'I'm not the gender I look like when naked,' then what?" I don't like my earlier answer. I should have answered that I would suggest they cast themselves on the mercies of God with faith in the life-changing power of Jesus. Read through the Gospels with particular attention being paid to the many lives rescued by Him. Draw encouragement and hope from that.

It never fails. When a person discovers that he or she has no compelling arguments, they generally turn to personal insults with references to a "closed mind" or a "hostile attitude"
I learned how to do that from you.

I learned how to do that from you.First you are insulting, then you admit to being insulting, and lastly you refuse to take responsibility for your own actions, preferring to blame it on someone else. Oh well.

I may or may not have LGBTQ++xyz family . Put in enough letters into the alphabet soup and I'm sure everyone is covered . But I am not the science denier . There are only 2 genders and the proof of that is how often the fad that you can change your gender is attempted .

Most of the time what you really have is children confused because of the changes their bodies are going through during puberty . It is complicated enough as it is without feeding them horse sh*t ideas that they can change genders with the stroke of a surgical knife and some Doctor Frankenstein chemical abuse. They need counselling as has been suggested by doctors who adhere to the Hippocratic oath instead of a woke agenda.

Most of the time what you really have is children confused because of the changes their bodies are going through during puberty .
Nope. A child realizes something's off usually by age four. That's when it hit me.

Nope. A child realizes something's off usually by age four. That's when it hit me.And yet you dated boys in high school, including one you claimed tried to sexually assault you.

And yet you dated boys in high school, including one you claimed tried to sexually assault you.
I didn't say what aspect of LGBTQ+ hit me. And back when I was four, the adults around me were like you are, very close-minded in that there are only two genders -- with the male being dominant and the female being submissive.

the adults around me were like you are, very close-minded in that there are only two genders -- with the male being dominant and the female being submissive.Your approach is basically this. "I've run out of compelling arguments, so I will insult you and lie about your beliefs." It would be nice if you would stop.

At any rate, we were discussing TG when you claimed, "A child realizes something's off usually by age four. That's when it hit me." Whatever it was from the alphabet soup that you claim hit you, it would not have resulted in you dating boys in high school and being, as you have said, "...the cute PK, in general a desirable female, a goal to be bragged about by a MALE."

So now what was it again that hit you at age four???

So now what was it again that hit you at age four???
The realization that I am not a submissive frilly-dress, bouquet-of-flowers, huggy-kissy female.

The realization that I am not a submissive frilly-dress, bouquet-of-flowers, huggy-kissy female.Still find it strange that someone of that description considered herself to be, "...the cute PK, in general a desirable female, a goal to be bragged about by a MALE." At any rate, I have no idea why you would think that "revelation" that came to you at age four is somehow relevant to a discussion of when people begin to realize they are TG.

That's the age when the TG people I know also realized something was not right.

The age when kids think they are TG varies. The stories of kids who thought they were TG only to decide later they were not are practically endless.

That's why family counseling, individual counseling, and gender counseling by reputable and well-educated and canny professionals are so very important before anything is blocked or chopped off.

"...the cute PK, in general a desirable female, a goal to be bragged about by a MALE." At any rate, I have no idea why you would think that "revelation" that came to you at age four is somehow relevant to a discussion of when people begin to realize they are TG.
That wasn't the conclusion. I am not TG and never imagined I was. The revelation was from a male pov. My own revelation fit and still fits another letter in that "alphabet soup" (as you call it).

".The only problem is these nut job so called psycho-logist doctors who have themselves gone insane and say with a straight face that a child can be born into the wrong body."

Nope. There are well-trained, legit professionals to help families and individuals with this.

Isn't discussing topics with another AMHD member (instead of just with tomder) a lot of fun??!!

Of course! However, I think his statement is far closer to the truth than yours.