Do Skin Lightening Pills actually work? [Archive] - Page 4

gold3509

Aug 7, 2007, 05:39 AM

Hey! I've been using the Bio Claire since Friday night and I really think it works! Either that or my eyes are playing tricks on me! I notice a difference in my face, but no nothing on my body yet :( better than no results at all right. anyways i'm going to continuing using it and i'll keepo you posted. i just email customer service the consent. i'm very excited to try the HQ10%. oh! you mentioned that i should get HQ10% with tretinoin...i'll do that..oh one more thing..i didn't get any itchy or drying on my skin from the biop claire yet..i just feel that my skin feels softer..did you get that too? when did you get the peeling and itchiness???

When I first started using bio claire I just use it on my body not my face. That why I kept complaining it not working.. everybody else on here use it on there face and I didn't. Most here saw result on the face before any thing else. My body started to lighten about two months later so it going to take while to see result on the body... but some see it sooner but not me.. when using tretinoin with H Q be careful cause it peels the skin... and lot of redness... burning affects after peeling in about 6 or 7 day later... so be careful with this product...

Bio claire works on the body but takes longer

kissable

Aug 8, 2007, 02:25 AM

when i first started using bio claire i just use it on my body not my face. that why i kept complaining it not working.. everybody else on here use it on there face and i didnt. most here saw result on the face before any thing else. my body started to lighten about two months later so it gonna take while to see result on the body... but some see it sooner but not me.. when using tretinoin with H Q be careful cause it peels the skin... and lot of redness... burning affects after peeling in about 6 or 7 day later... so be careful with this product...

bio claire works on the body but takes longer

Is the tretinoin in the 10%HQ itself? Or is it in another product that I should order??
Any suggestions on dark underarm pits and elbows? It's so embarrassing.. :(

I'm going to continue using the Bio Claire religiously on my body for at least 3mo. I'll definitely keep you posted.. oh! One more thing.. do you have any before and after pics?? I just want to get a visual of how well this product can possibly work for me.. but if you feel uncomfortable showing them to me I understand.

gold3509

Aug 8, 2007, 05:41 AM

Is the tretinoin in the 10%HQ itself? or is it in another product that i should order???
any suggestions on dark underarm pits and elbows? it's so embarassing..:(

i'm going to continue using the Bio Claire religiously on my body for at least 3mo. i'll definitely keep you posted..oh! one more thing..do you have any before and after pics??? i just wanna get a visual of how well this product can possibly work for me..but if you feel uncomfortable showing them to me I understand.

No you have to ask for tretinoin with HQ HQ is sold by itself no I don't have before and after pic. Bio claire has lighten my elbows and knees..

Liyah

Aug 10, 2007, 10:36 AM

gold3509

Aug 10, 2007, 12:47 PM

Hamid28

Aug 13, 2007, 01:47 PM

Hello, I am new to this board but I have been following this topic. I have been searching for skin lightning produts that really work!
I am living in The Netherlands so does anyone know how and where I can order Bio Claire and hydroquionone 10% and how much it will cost in euros?
And one more thing.. hydroquionone is not permitted in The Netherlands.. but I REALLY need to have bio claire and hydroquionone 10%. :(
What can I do to get them?
I'm currenly a dark brown skin tone and I would like to achieve a light brown skin tone.
Thank you.

Hi Liyah, hydroquionone is niet voor niets verboden in Nederland, is immers levens gevaarlijk spul... niet doen dus. Hetzelfde ( of zelfs veel beter ) effect krijg je van b.v van kojic acid ( papayazeep ) of Bioclaire. En trouwens zelf in de VS wordt aangeraden maar 2% HQ te gebruiken en zeker geen 10, check de Diana Stalder producten deze zijn veel veiliger en beter, HQ werkt na een poos met terug-werkende-kracht en een veel voorkomend na-effect is that je huid en teveel aan pigment gaat aanmaken... dus that je veel donkerder kan worden... mazzel.

muna

Aug 14, 2007, 03:29 AM

What language was that?

pedusc

Aug 17, 2007, 11:22 AM

Hey!! Im still here, Ive been lazy with the skin lighting with bio clair. But it did work for me. Im in the sun alot and it hasn't done that much to darken me. I luv it and i'll prolly go back on it in the winter.

Hello,
All you out there with evidently extreme poor self esteem should know that these chemicals you pile on your bodies in the name of bleaching creams may send you to the grave sooner. Please consult a dermatologist before you kill yourself slowly. Most of these chemicals are metabolised in the liver and kidney, and in the long run could affect DNA synthesis, alter your cellular structure and ultimately lead to cancerous growths. Be warned! Love the skin you are in. Your colour is genetically programed and no matter what you use, as soon as you stop it, you will become worse off than when you started. These creams, pills, treatments do no work! This is a form of slow suicide, you are not helping yourself. Be a proud dark-skinned woman. How many white women want to take pills and creams to become dark? Michael Jackson will have a reason to laugh at you and he is richer.

Hamid28

Aug 17, 2007, 11:53 AM

Hello,
All you out there with evidently extreme poor self esteem should know that these chemicals you pile on your bodies in the name of bleaching creams may send you to the grave sooner. Please consult a dermatologist before you kill yourself slowly. Most of these chemicals are metabolised in the liver and kidney, and in the long run could affect DNA synthesis, alter your cellular structure and ultimately lead to cancerous growths. Be warned! Love the skin you are in. Your colour is genetically programed and no matter what you use, as soon as you stop it, you will become worse off than when you started. These creams, pills, treatments do no work! This is a form of slow suicide, you are not helping yourself. Be a proud dark-skinned woman. How many white women want to take pills and creams to become dark? Michael Jackson will have a reason to laugh at you and he is richer.

WHATYEVER WANNABE DR.PHIL... how dare you assume people have "extreme poor self esteem" please shut up and go some where else whit your!! Most people on this forum are very vain and trendy,what's wrong with taking care of the way you want to look... anyway boring...

halflatin

Aug 17, 2007, 07:38 PM

I use melanex 3% hydroquinione (prescribed) on my face for over 12 years. However I do not over do it. If anything I use it 4-5 times a month and leave it at that. My skin lightened about 2 shades. Its about 1 shad lighter than under my arm pit. Unfortunately I can't get it in Mexico or Canada as they only have 4% and I don't like it because it will make me break out.

Now as for the over the counter 2% I imagine their safe, just not as strong so the level of effect is lesser. Kojic Acid & Licorice acids are other substitutes used for brigtening skin. Im sure a lot of those unique lables have these 2 products.

Last weekend I was at the LA Convention Center for the Bridal expo Next to it was the Phillipino expo, I heard about enlighten skin ligtening pills. I was amazed to ever hear about it. I am impressed to go to Google and find a lot of web sites and YouTube to find tons of videos.

However Im concerned:
1) Why isn't it FDA Approved in America?
2) Wny is it that the doctor that prescribed this melanex to me never told me about it?
3) Why is it that a dermatologist never told me about it?
4) Why is it that its based from the Philipeans?
5) Why can't one mail order ?

I found the enlighten website and the person I was going to buy from was unique character. For starters he would not give me a street address to his office/store to purchase the Enlighten the Glutathione pills.

Now here's the real kicker: I got to a good source for presciptioins: CANADA pharmacy online and it shows glutathione is a dog medication! Yes - WOOF WOOF WOOF! Canada Pharmacy: Denosyl SD4 product information and side effects (http://www.canadapharmacy.com/cart/index.cfm?fuseaction=product_detail&productid=7423&CFID=636879&CFTOKEN=78916071)

I have visited Tijuna BC Mexico serveral times and have asked many times what they have to lighten skin. NO one ever said to me that pills exist. And trust me, TJ is a pharmacy community as many americans cross the border to save money. In fact many pharmacys are 24/7. I just wonder why they never said anything about Glutathione?

So now my question is this stuff legit? Why is it so covert? I went to some website from the philipeeans and notice that their salons offer "skin whitening services." for all purposes they could be using kojic acid along with licorice. I wonder how tyra and all these models lighten up from head to toe. Sure stay out of the sun, make up and ligthting will do the trick. But I do believe there's more to it.

As for Michael Jackson, I think he may have done a fenal peel which is now illegal to do. That was a peel that was used to remove the fine lines that a face lift couldn't remove. However, mostly old ladies would get it done and that's why they all looked like ghosts - ala Michael.

Im just wondering if these pills really work and if they do why is it the medical commjnity hasn't gotten on top of it?

halflatin

Aug 17, 2007, 11:09 PM

The hydroquionone 10% isn't cheap it cost $63.00 plus shipping and handling is 6 bucks comes to $69.00

Hello. I thought the highest was 4% unless it's a special compound made at the doctors office? Was that something you bought at the pharmacy? If so - what brand and what pharmacy? I use by prescription melanex 3% LIQUID (NOT CREME) by prescription made my Neutrogina and it comes in generic brand as well.

Thx

Brennan

Aug 22, 2007, 09:45 PM

Contact the manufacturer directly, search for Glutathione manufacturer or Distributor, goodluck!

i believe this product works how do i placed an order to be an on line retailer. this active white capsule is so nice and very effective. i knew so many of my friends who use it and never wants me to know how they got it. please how do i get connected inorder to be part of this .

Carmen

Aug 24, 2007, 09:50 PM

what language was that?

LOL!!

gold3509

Sep 9, 2007, 02:48 PM

Hello. I thought the highest was 4% unless its a special compound made at the doctors office? Was that somethign you bought at the pharmacy? If so - what brand and waht pharmacy? I use by prescription melanex 3% LIQUID (NOT CREME) by prescription made my Neutrogina and it comes in generic brand as well.

Thx

No I got it on line at greatskin.com you have to ask customer service for it...

samlala

Sep 10, 2007, 02:34 PM

Hey, I'm a person like you guys all trying to make my skin better.
I've noticed you guys using a lot of pills and what not in an attempt to make your skin lighter perhaps back to the colour it originally was at.

I'm not a doctor but from many reviews and comments I have found this product to be the best.

Skin peel 4000

Skin peel 4000 is a chemical peel used to send your face back to the colour it was originally at.

For more information on this product visite Skin Peels and Peeling Treatments for Wrinkles, Acne Scarring & Blemishes (http://www.skinculture.com/)

Please report back and tell me of any information when you use this product, please and thankyou:)

muna

Sep 10, 2007, 03:34 PM

Hi Samala, you are right , I think people should stop waisting money on creams and pills and go for laser or chemical treatments and peels, I have decided to go that route as well, and it is permanent.

BlackLace

Sep 10, 2007, 06:10 PM

anisa

Sep 10, 2007, 09:33 PM

Hello Zagadai, Lotti & yellowgal85. Do you already have answers to your questions on skin lightening? I'm using Shiseido Pure White Glutathione pills from Japan. They're effective but expensive. My friend ordered it from Japan and I got most of the bulk of her orders since she is leaving for the U.S. next month and will be there for 6 months.

Hello BlackLace,
Could tell me how can I order Shiseido Pure White Glutathione pills? For how long have you been on those pills? And did you get any results?

Thanks in advance.

halflatin

Sep 10, 2007, 11:42 PM

Im all for peels. Ive had 2 TCA peels and love the results. It clears your skin and above all evens the tone. It won't lighten, but it will brighten and give you a flawless complexion.

The only downside is the downtime - for a whole week you'll look like Freddy Crugar in Nightmare on Elm Street as your face will look like it was in fire.

Other peels are a little superficial. But they are all right. Im OK with buying a product called a peel, but a true peel should be given by a doctor (such as a TCA.) A strong peel should have 2 people present especially when applying around the eye as that can burn you or blind you if your not careful.

Do not waste your money on the Obaggi Blue Peel. It was the biggest rip offthat I wasted my money.

Now there is a peel that was banned about 10 years ago that was called the Fenal peel. I heard that the peel stripped color. This is the peel a lot of older ladies got after a facelift to remove crows feet and all those lines. But they were pale as ghosts. I tink this is the peel Michael Jackson.

Laser: be super careful and make sure you know and rsearch the make/model / type used. There are too many people out there that will sell you anything to make money.

I do recommend Laser Genesis for resurfacing the skin, Cuter Cool Glide for hair removal and Cutera Titan. I have been very active with laser hair removal and am pleased. However it didn't start that way. I have been victimized with IPL used for laser hair removal. Though it will work - the results take forever. But its very good for tightening the poors.

Finally, I received a great answer regarding the pills. I was told that though it can work, there are many frauds on the market. My gripe about these pills is that no doctor will back his name onto it. After all, medicine is a business and Im sure there would be a doctor out there that would love to capitolize on it. I do have challenges with these pills available outside North America as well as sold only online or through hair salons. Why aren't doctors in the USA and Canada recommending these pills to patients? Why isn't a doctor one make the money from it? There is a strong market for it. Im a bit suspicious.

BlackLace

Sep 11, 2007, 03:58 AM

Hello BlackLace,
Could tell me how can I order Shiseido Pure White Glutathione pills? for how long have you been on those pills? and did you get any results?

Thanks in advance.

Hi Anisa,

I've been on these pills for about 2 weeks now but my friends have been using them for quite some time. These pills come from Japan with their original packaging in Japanese but I'm told that you have to take at least 3-4 tablets a day.

I got my friend"s stock of PureWhite pills since she's leaving for the US next month and won't be able to sell them in a short span of time. They cost P5,500/bot. for 270 pills. At the rate of 3 pills a day that's already a supply for 3 months or individually about P20.00/pill.

I heard that this is what some of the actresses in the Philippines use. But I cannot vouch for that one except that I rely on what I've seen from my friends. I haven't lightened yet but my skintone has started to even out.

Sincerely BlackLace

eoo7l

Sep 19, 2007, 11:17 AM

huh? anyone ever heard of real skin whitening pills that work.
i mean am kind of new in the skin whitening issue though have been in it all, all the products u guyz were talking about seemed to me to take ages and the results seemed to be temporaliy from what u guyz were saying about the products u used.
Has anyone ever heard of anykind of skin whitening or litening even bleaching pills on market.
or any kind of pills that real work ,i mean REAL work an were made specifically for skin lightening ,bleaching watever not things like diet or crap like that.
i mean have done lots of researchs but they have been fruitless.
anyone ready to help me out .
thanks , :p
Hamid28,
Where do you order your super-skin-whitening-pills, and the other products that you use to lighten your skin. I ordered the pills one from Kuzami from superwhiteningpills.net, but I been reading this forum and other forum, and so far I found out that it is a fake or no good. I just noticed that the site is not secure, and the only way you can contact the person is through e-mail or instant messages. Kuzami just wants to make quick money that's all. I threw it since I'm afraid to take it. It is too bad that it is too late and I can't return this. I wasted my money, and it is my biggest mistake. I could have used that money to buy me a pair of nice shoes. Anyway, does anyone else you know use the product that you use to lighten skin? Do you have before and after picture? If it is effective to a lot of people beside yourself, please send me more info.
Lynn

Hamid28

Sep 20, 2007, 06:29 AM

Hamid28,
Where do you order your super-skin-whitening-pills, and the other products that you use to lighten your skin. I ordered the pills one from Kuzami from superwhiteningpills.net, but I been reading this forum and other forum, and so far I found out that it is a fake or no good. I just noticed that the site is not secure, and the only way you can contact the person is through e-mail or instant messages. Kuzami just wants to make quick money thats all. I threw it since I'm afraid to take it. It is too bad that it is too late and I can't return this. I wasted my money, and it is my biggest mistake. I could have used that money to buy me a pair of nice shoes. Anyways, does anyone else you know use the product that you use to lighten skin? Do you have before and after picture? If it is effective to a lot of people beside yourself, please send me more info.
Lynn

Salaam Eoo7, I'm sorry to hear about your results, the thing about Kazumi is that funny enough the pills did work for me... but I've found something out. The high dossage off viamine C one has to take with these pills are in fact enough to lighten ones skin. Specially vitamine C with rosehip, this is a mayor melanin reducer... so? I don't know for a fact if Kazumi is a faker or not but these days you can buy L-Glutathione in any good Healt or fitness shop. If you combine that with vitamine C (Rosehip included) you'll get the same result.

Do not forget the importance of external care for better result one should use a good cream ( Lancaster Infinte white) I've got good results using them. BUT I now found something witch I think is the best product for skin lighting.It's a great product and secret used in the Asian and Arab world for a long time.Been using it for a month and I have to say it's amazing. I've stopped with every thing else... yes even my precious pills... If you would like to know send a message to my profile and I'll give you the link.The reason is that I'm not promoting anyone or any product so...

About placing my picture... don't think so sorry I'm a very private person.I'm happy to share my results on this forum but I'll not give away pics to anyone.Hope that you can understand that.
Goodluck...

eoo7l

Sep 21, 2007, 02:41 PM

I been reading that Hydroquinone is dangerous, causing cancer and some other illness, and the U.S. is the last one to know. Other countries has banned Hydroquinone. Please be aware. I stop using Hydroquinone lotion that I purchased from the Philippines.
Source:American Chronicle: Skin Lightening Options Threatened: Is Hydroquinone Really Too Dangerous for Consumer Use (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=18918)

eoo7l

Sep 21, 2007, 03:03 PM

halflatin,
Why ask canadian pharmacy? You should ask American pharmacy. Anyhow, L-Glutathione is not a dog medication: you are misinformed. Please provide more information and sources to back up your claim. Canadian pharmacy isn't enough to say that it is a dog medication. For your information, medication coming from Mexico isn't safe since it is coming from a third world country. It is cheap because it isn't regulated. Would you trust to get a face lift or breast implant from a third world country? Back to the subject: L Glutathione is POTENT DETOXIFIER, ANTIOXIDANT, & IMMUNE BOOSTER. Believe me, I been doing my research on this, and I don't think it is a dog medication. Why does a dog need this for anyway? Anyhow, if dogs do take it, remember most medication are tested on animals first anyway. If it is good for them, then it must be good for us as well.

Source to look at:
Mega L Glutathione, 250 Mg 60 Capsules Twinlab (http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00314.html)

lollipop1972

Sep 24, 2007, 07:42 AM

Hi everybody... I'm using gluta5oomg for 3 months now. It works for me swear.. I love d result it makes my skin more clear, fine and whiter than before. Even my friends notice it. I want to share my experience and ideas to u, hope it will help you guys... as what I know gluthathion is not harmful to the body, it is an antioxidant involved in many cellular function such as detoxication. Here's some explanation fr a very reliable source(Dermatologist) sorry I can't mention her name. "although glutathion has quickly gained a reputation as a skin whitener, it is also a powerful antioxidant found in almost all living cells in tha body. The intake of this free radical scavenger allegedly has numerous benefits as an immune booster, to treat nerve and liver disease, and to fight cancer as well. It has also been recommended as a health and anti aging supplement. And yes, she adds Glutathion can also lighten the skin by inhibiting the function and activity of tyrosinase, which plays an important role in melanin production. Melanin the dark pigment responsible for the tanning or darkening of the skin when exposed to sunlight. The skin lightening effect in glutathion comes about when the skin produces the yellowish pheomelanin instead of the browning eumelanin, Patient notice skin lightening anywhere from the fourth month with oral supplement. like other medication glutathion is contraindicated for those who are hypersensitivity or allergic to any component of the product and should be avoided by those who are pregnant or lactating and those who have undergone organ transplant. Glutathion is relatively safe and there have been no reports of adverse reaction even with long term use, nor have there been reports of overdose.... Those who nurture hopes of turning Caucasian white or Who desire faster result may opt for intravenous administration of glutathion, but, she cautions not all doctors are convinced of the safety profile of this particular route of administration, she adds" hope you learn something from this. Its up for you to decide. Bye...

rose0000

Sep 26, 2007, 02:38 AM

Hey
I'm frm asian.. I've tan to fair skin.. I'm wondering if bio clarie would b too strong for me..
N secondly dozn it have any official site ?

MAHARANI

Sep 26, 2007, 09:32 AM

This isn't the oficial site, but here is a link with some info

Hydroquinone free skin lightening cream/Bio Claire(BIO-T1) (http://sterlingsilversguesso.stores.yahoo.net/bioclsklicr.html)

gra

Sep 26, 2007, 10:41 AM

Don't fall for skinbleaching.net. I placed an order for their pills. They never sent me the goods. They kept on lying to me saying that they are just about to dispatch my order. They promised a refund if they can't deliver on time. At the end, when I finally asked for a refund, they stopped replying to my mails. They are the most unprofessional business I have ever come across. They stole money from me. Don't waste your money ordering any of their products.

Boricua1

Oct 6, 2007, 03:34 PM

I think that alot of the whitening pills like glutathione, lysine, makari, are just supplements they heard are very good for healthy skin tone, so they exaggerate and say they can make you lighter. Because I tried alot of them, including very high doze L-Glutathione with Vitamin C and it only added olive and carrot tones to my dark skin. I wondered why and did a search and found out L-Glutathione is also used by bodybuilders and tanning babes that want to darken their skin tone. So glutathione feeds the phaeomelanin process, but does not interfere with melanin. That means if you are white or japanese asian type of fair skin, glutathione helps you look brighter color. But if you are naturally dark skin, glutathione is just doing adding some light color onto the palette, not reducing the dark pigment.

The only pills that I have heard that truly works to bleach your skin is the antibiotic Fowl Pill from Jamaica, and the huge steroid pill from Africa. People from all over the world go to Africa just to buy that pill. They work but shutting down the bodies production of melanin.

I have been considering ingesting small amount of pure benzyl-arbutin to see if it has a lightening effect on the skin, hair, and eyes. I always wanted lighter eyes too, and contact lenses look fake!

I would take caution in ingesting anything with anytype of arbutin as arbutin has shown in studies to convert into hydroquinone in the liver... in fact be careful ingesting ANY chemical compound... many steroids have been linked to thinning of the skin and scarring, darkening (Blackening) of the skin... food for thought... if you can only get the substance in Africa or Jamaica/ any other country than Europe or America... it may be very dangerous and unregulated... and don't get me wrong... I'm not trying to down other countries... I'm from the Caribbean... however being from the Caribbean, I also know many people with horror stories of mercury ladden and steroid creams, serums, concoctions, and powders... be very careful... consult a dermatologist maybe... and research thouroughly on your own... some of these things can kill, disfigure, or make you very ill...

jessica1

Oct 7, 2007, 07:46 AM

Hi sweet carioline sorry if I have spelt your name wrong

I thought the fowl pill was used for gaining weight rapidly that's why the jamacian government banned it due to its bad side effects. I wanted to use it but they are now banned in jamacia.

I didn't know that the fowl could lighten your skin. What is this pill in afrcia called and how can I get? Are these there only pills that can lighten my skin . I'm black female like yourself and understand. If you can help me let me know

14111987

Oct 10, 2007, 11:34 PM

I want to know about d skin whitening pills.are there any side effects.is it safe.how does it work.mm skin complexion is dusky.I want to join d avaition industry in d next 1 year. Help me.I want to know about d skin whitening pills

Boricua1

Oct 11, 2007, 06:31 PM

Might I add also... I have yet to really hear of anyone with actual dramatic results using pills... I have seen people with fairer coplexions such as asians with a kind of sallow or olive complexion lighten... or better said... brighten... but not too much as far as darer complexions... and strangely enough they only seem to work on that type of complexion... even evry light people I know had very little effect in changing skin tone... but I'm no expert... I don't know every type of pill out there... I can just basically tell you that most pills are just a load of junk that someone os trying to scam you with... beware of sites and companies trying to sell you miracles or dreams... usually it is just tjat... someone selling you something... Are most of you aware of the old image of the travelling salesman selling miracle potions and concoctions on the side of the road from yester year?. well the new band wagon rebirth of this is now found in the tons of skin lightening products... most are made by people exploiting insecurities in people of color... very few work... most are dangerous... and all are expensive... don't let your desire for a miracle sell you short...

beau_619

Oct 12, 2007, 06:12 PM

gold3509

Oct 13, 2007, 03:22 PM

I have heard positives and negatives about skin whitening pills and I'm still not sure whether they are worth the buy with everyone saying bio-claire is the way to go...We all have seen oprah winfrey lighten up over the years so there must be something out there. Are there any other people of darker complexion who have tried skin lightening pills and had any significant results? Also gold, I would love to hear how your progress is coming along with bio-claire...its been exciting hearing about your improvements from month to month.

Thank you... Glad you took notice of my progress.. I been using bio claire for almost a year now... December will make a year... My result has been good.. but as you know when I first started using bio claire I saw no result at all it took a long time to work on me.. someone told me to be patience a little longer and it will work... glad I listen cause I started seeing result... my skin became light brown skin.. I been having problem lightening my feets and hands evenly but every where else lighten evenly my body lighten very well and legs butt and knee caps lighten really good when I didn't think my knee caps will lighten up that much. My legs has gotten a shade darker for some strange reason cause I have not stop using bio claire so I am mixing the oil and cream together again.. my legs are starting to lighten back up again... I see it works differently than hydroquinone cause hydropquinone will keep your skin light with continues use. Bio claire is a good product but takes longer to work on some people...

I am thinking of trying other products in the near future but bio claire is a definite keeper...

jessica1

Oct 14, 2007, 03:18 PM

Good to hear from you
That's great news did you use on your face?:)

gold3509

Oct 14, 2007, 04:46 PM

good to hear from you
Thats great news did you use on your face?:)
Yeah I have used it on my face works well... :)

jessica1

Oct 15, 2007, 12:38 PM

yeah i have used it on my face works well.....:)

Brilliant

jessica1

Oct 16, 2007, 11:35 AM

yeah i have used it on my face works well.....:)

How many shades have you lightend on your face and body?

Solarplexis

Oct 18, 2007, 05:54 AM

I'm new here and found this site in my search for skin lighting products. I have Gabrielle Union skin color and would like to whiten around 2 to 3 shades. I'm happy that Bio claire seems to work. I now want to order the oil, cream and lotion. A previous poster said she mixed them together and got faster results so I will try that too. From previous posts, it seems I should wait till my body lightens before applying to my face.

I still though have some questions about Bio claire. Is there any side effects (besides the peeling, itching and dryness) like making my skin (mainly face) break out, weight gain, or making my face more oily (I already have very oily skin)? Will it also make my scars less noticeable? Will there be a time when I will have noticebly splotched and uneven skin from diff parts not lighting together? I really don't want splotched skin. Also, will it actually go as far as to lighten my skin 2 to 3 shades? Will it succed in making my skin even toned all over after the lighting process has started?

sijaz

Oct 18, 2007, 08:19 AM

Comment on Glutathione pills.....THEY DO WORK, for all of you asking that very immportant question.I´ve been using super-skin-whitening-pills for up to three mounts now and have to say that I´m amazed by the results. Ok listen to this I´m am of mixed raced ( arab / hindi ) my complexion is light to normal brown. However I was kinda darker in my face, so a friend of mine adviced me to used Glutathione 1000 mg mixed with Vitamine C with Rosehip. Been taking the pills and not missing one, first my hands started lighting up and than my feet and finnaly my body and face. I´ve gone from a brown tan to an nice glowing , rosie whiter complexion. And yes my dark spots are gone...but be carefull is you are a smoker the vitamine C will not be obsorbe by your systeem. When going out in the sun use an good sun block ( mine is from Biotherme ) Also its smart to use a external creme, use an offical blend. The best one on the market right now is from Lancaster from the Infinite white line ( this includes a cleanser, day and night creme and is the the best xsp for Asian skin. I´m sorry to say that not every one is a canidate for these pills is you are to dark and have thick skin it will not work for you. And PS don´t listen to every one on this board there some very backward people wrighting lots of stupid stuff...anyway good luck and yes a fairer skin tone is very important these days. I should know this working in the fashion branche..so go a head an update yourself if you can but do it save, damaged to your skin is useally permanent all the reason for you to be very selective with this biggest organ of yours....NT my pills came from Kazumi ( superwhiteningpills.net)...God bless.

Where can I buy the "Lancaster from the Infinite white line"? I am in the US, and could not find it on the internet.

muna

Oct 18, 2007, 02:37 PM

Hello Hamid, did you by roship vitamins mixed with vitamin c or by it self, you take glutathione 500 mg 2 times a day or 1000 with 2000 vitaminC once? How many mg roship you are taking? How much and where did you buy lancaster products? What is it consist of?

halflatin

Oct 18, 2007, 11:05 PM

In conjunction with applying those lightening cremes on the face to curb breakouts, I recommend face basics such as

1) WAsh your face before going to bed and the moment you wake up.
2) When washing use good mild cleanser (not soap.)
3) Use white wash cloths as you can't put clorox on color towels. To kill bacteria its to have sanitary cloths.
4) Use witch hazel after washing (prior to applying lightening products.) This close pores up and prevent bacteria.
5) Careful with Sunblock on face. I recommend a sunblock that is for BABIES - Sensitive skin. Do note, there is a differnece between sunscreen and sunblock. Sunscreen won't prvent you from darkening. There are some sunblocks that too won't prevent you from tanning. I personally love Palmers Anti Darkening Sun block. Another sunblock that is excellent is a liquid sunblock called SHADE. Its alcohol base without the greese.

I recommend a gel by Peter Thomas Roth - Potent Skin Lightening Gel. Its avaialbe at Sephora. It has 2% hydroquinione, kojic acid, bearberry, mulberry, vitamin C, Saliciylic Acid. I personally like this product because of the Saliciylic Acid (acne fighter.) So I think using a product in the morning and then rotate to this product before bed is excellent to lighten up as any bacteria will be curbed with the Saliciylic Acid.

Hamid28

Oct 19, 2007, 01:31 AM

Where can I buy the "Lancaster from the Infinite white line"? I am in the US, and could not find it on the internet.

Hi Saijaz,

The product is called Lancaster and the new line is called Infinte white,I do believe their known is the US. But you can also try to look for the new L'Oreal line also for skin whitening.Lancaster is a product from Monacco witch is very effective but also very exspensive... but they do what they promise.

Check the link below:

Welcome to Lancaster Website (http://www.lancaster-beauty.com/)

Goodluck.

Hamid28

Oct 19, 2007, 02:03 AM

Hello Hamid, did you by roship vitamins mixed with vitamin c or by it self, you take glutathione 500 mg 2 times a day or 1000 with 2000 vitaminC once? how many mg roship you are taking? how much and where did you buy lancaster products? what is it consist of?

Salam Muna,

The vitamine C I use contains Rosehips 1000 mg. I started with L-Glutathione 2000 mg combined with Vit C 4000 mg ( dailly dossage) and saw very good result. Your skin start glowing and getting clearer from the inside out.After about three mounths got 4 to 5 shades lighter. But I also must honesly confest something... a while ago I've ran out of pills and ordered them a bit late so I had to wait. However I continuted taking my Vitamine C with Rosehip to my surprise it seems that vitamine C (with the rosehip) by it self is all ready a mayor skin whitener.

I also use Kojic and Licorice soaps once every week for exfloting (very important in skin whitening ) and am also a member off a skinwhitening forum of the lady who ownes this site. See is a pro with lots off knowledge concerning skin whitening. As is it seems Vitamine C is a very strong Melanin inhabetor, thus a mayor lightner of the skin... So I'm not so sure about L-Glutathione anymore. But still it does the job and is also very good for ones health.

The Lancaster products are well known and made in Monnaco main ingr. Are Kojic and licorice.Any good beauty center is selling these products for men there is also the new l'Oreal line. These are all exspensive but safe products and the do deliver what they promise.( Lancaster Group
US LLC.NEW YORK
NY 10016
Welcome to Lancaster Website (http://www.lancaster-beauty.com/)

FYI the newest and latest sensation is Benzylarbutin from Herbal Inn... don't want to say any more but look into it.

Regards...

muna

Oct 19, 2007, 05:13 AM

Thanks Hamid, do use the vitamins before food or after? Have you used this Benzylarbutin from Herbal Inn?

Hamid28

Oct 19, 2007, 06:35 AM

thanks Hamid, do use the vitamins before food or after? have you used this Benzylarbutin from Herbal Inn?

Muna, the vitamine's are best to taken in before breakfast and later before going to bed. This my own doctor has advice me (also been told this by my fitness coach ) And yes I started with the Fairness cream from Herbal inn already.

gold3509

Oct 30, 2007, 03:37 PM

how many shades have you lightend on your face and body?

My body became very light.. lighter than I expect it... I would say 3 or 4 shades lighter...

nadia999

Oct 30, 2007, 05:51 PM

Hello Hamid, you already got results for before and you said now you are using fairness cream from herbal inn, so how is it going? The results you got before were not dramatic like herbal inn promise?

halflatin

Oct 31, 2007, 01:54 AM

Is there a website for Benzylarbutin from Herbal Inn ?

ffazil2002

Oct 31, 2007, 11:33 AM

For Bio Claire users or want to be users, I have been using bio claire for 3 months. It do work by making your skin about 3 shade lighter but it has no effect on scars. Also on a side effect you will see much more blue-green vains. I am not sure if it is for skin being lighten or skin became thin. Also since a week I am seeing a darker shade on my both upper cheeks. I was using it twice a day, so now I reduced it to once a day and will see if it maintain the skin tone and reduct vain and eliminate dark shade. Is there anyone having same problem? By the way, I buy my bio claire from eBay.

jessica1

Oct 31, 2007, 12:06 PM

my body became very light.. lighter than i expect it... i would say 3 or 4 shades lighter...

That's great thanks for the reply

Hamid28

Nov 2, 2007, 01:10 AM

Hello Hamid, you already got results for before and you said now you are using fairness cream from herbal inn, so how is it going? the results you got before were not dramatic like herbal inn promise?

Hi Nadia999, yes I'm now using the Hrebal Inn cream, simply because I got tired of pills but they do work very well. And you also must take note that you have to take vitamine C with the pills as well,so it's really a handfull of pills every day.That's way I've decided to search for the next best thing and found the Herbal inn cream.And yes it does deliver what they promise.I'm very please with the result,it take time but it's safe and natural... Goodluck Nadia.

Hamid28

Nov 2, 2007, 01:13 AM

is there a website for Benzylarbutin from Herbal Inn ?

Check out the link, it's a great product, I'm not a seller but this product deserves to be noticed... anyway goodluck.

Herbal Inn&#8482 Ayurveda Medicine Health Beauty Support Herbal Inn&#8482 Fairness Milk Indian Ayurvedic (http://www.herbalinn.com/whitening.htm).

beau_619

Nov 16, 2007, 11:34 AM

Check out the link, it's a great product, I'm not a seller but this product deserves to be noticed...anyway goodluck.

Herbal Inn&#8482 Ayurveda Medicine Health Beauty Support Herbal Inn&#8482 Fairness Milk Indian Ayurvedic (http://www.herbalinn.com/whitening.htm).

I'm curious... has anyone tried the Herbal Inn Fairness Cream and Bio-Claire?. If so, is one worth the buy over the other? If no one has, I would be interested to hear how quickly you can expect noticeable results when using each... also has anyone tried the black soap and lotion from eBay Store - Fair Skin Antiaging Whitening Bleach Products Diana Stalder: 50-90 off bargain celebrity Philippine best kept secrets (http://stores.ebay.com/A-Shopaholics-Bargains)?. if so, could you share your progress and the feasibility--price-wise--of using it longterm. Thanks everyone! Really enjoy reading your posts... especially Gold & Hamid... keep posting!

ffazil2002

Nov 19, 2007, 02:49 PM

Here we all are in pursuit for something that will keep us lighter for a long(problem rest of our life) period. From my personal experience I find it really hard. Specially on face. I went as high as 4-5 shade using bio claire and then I turned to my original color just in 2-3 days while I was using bio claire. Problem happened after 10 weeks. Moreover I have a dark black shade on my both upper cheeks. My hands are now 4-5 shades lighter than my face. I guess bio claire is good for your body. I am not sure if the darkning of face is because of sunburn as someone told me it might be sunburn. But it really made me too dark in just days. It is like all of your month's progress goes away in days.

I know some people are keeping their lightness for years, so there must be a way to stay light. People who is keeping light for more than 6 months, please share how you are doing that. What you are using and so forth..

aven

Nov 23, 2007, 01:41 PM

Hamid 28 does food we cat can make skin over darken skin what about soda and energy drink

Vahid

Nov 24, 2007, 04:47 AM

One last thing, I don't know why I keep having trouble with post just once. lol. But lottie, is this where you got your L-glutathione pills? : http://www.freewebs.com/ganda-atbp/beauty.htm
It's the LINK Jada gave me... and where I'm planning on ordering mine. I thought you were female... I am. Oh well. Hope things are well with you.

Hey there! I have noticed that you are buying from the same place which I recently ordered some products from. I'll just let you know that I received the products and was very happy with the service and advice. The lady recommended I try Magic Cream, White Glutathione Soap, and White Pills.

I have tried the cream.. it's really nice on my skin. First time I used it, it was very warm but I got used to it. I just found out it has spf in it which I'm very relieved about because I'm paranoid about the suns effects. It's a very rich cream and that's what I like about it because I have very dry skin.

The soap tingled a bit when I first used it, but now it feels nice and I enjoy it. The only problem is that my skin is a bit dry so I am most likely going to purchase the Kliggmans cream (however you spell it) to keep it moist and also for its whitenning properties.

Ive taken the pills for about a week of course after taking all these products I haven't noticed any difference really but I enjoy making the effort. This stuff takes time and patience. Rome was't built in a day.

Let me tell you I once took Accutane, which is a high dosage of Vitamin A.. The effect of this is to treat and prevent severe acne. I imagine that L-glutathione is much the same and it would take the same amount of time. (about 8 months). Im prepared to wait that long.

The accutane had a permanent damage on my skin it made my skin severely dry and very sensitive. Its been 6 years and the side effects still remain with me. I imagine it will be the same with L-Glutathione. But such is life, and risks are a part of the journey to beautifying yoursef. Nothing in life is without risk or side effect. My advice is to delve into, never have regret or second thought.. and never care.. put your trust and faith out there and hope for the best.

Ive also undergone IPL and Ive had two nose jobs.. all of which Ive done on impulse. So I have no difficulty to go out and try these thing's because I have superb skin.. and I believe if I never done anything to it it wouldn't be half as good. Right now Im just wanting to go a bit lighter. As you can see form my display pic, Im a medium brown. And in the heat of Australia my skin only darkens.

Im happy with White pills.. but I realise a higher dosage of L-glutathione is needed. Im thinking about buying Dr James which has 1000mg of L-glutathione. White pills only have 700mg but they have 150mg of Alpha Lipoic Acid and 150mg of Vitamin C. I take two tablets a day and with each tablet I take 2,000g of Vitamin C.

But I think that if one takes the bleaching cream, bleaching soap and pills... along with 2 - 3 times Vitamin C of that of L-glutathione.. then the person will have likelihood of getting good results. Don't be scared I say.. Take it in its full. But that's just me I guess. I always take risks when it comes to beauty. But like I said Rome Wasn't built in a day.. and usually you have to look for the big changes.. to get at least the subtle ones.

Oh by the way.. Im thinking of buying Pink Peeling Cream, Kojic Acid Cream, Orange Cream (0.01% Glutathione) Kliggmans Cream 4 in 1 for my body and Glycloic Cream for my body also. Does anybody know anything about this stuff? Thanks all. I loved reading your posts and look forward to your replies. Xx.:cool: :)

aven

Nov 27, 2007, 09:00 PM

Vahid I heard dr james is fake don't waste money on it

lovely101

Nov 27, 2007, 10:48 PM

People,

Try MAKARI oralight pills! They work! Give it a couple months but it is a gradual process which doesn't make you look like you are bleaching! Why are people so much in a rush! People WILL notice if you get lighter in a week! Gradual changes makes it look like you are just maturing.. or perhaps a seasonal color... or perhaps taking care of yourself

Anyway, the pill are wonderful. I use to a day along with Makari's body beautifying lotion and it is slowly but surely working. I am really glowing.. which is exactly what I wanted. Don't really care about being light more so than looking ALIVE.. lol. But I am def. lightening up and very much GLOWING.. really!

Makari pills DO work great by themselves.. however it makes the wait a lot shorter when using the body beautifying lotion. The caviar cream I believe is WAY too drastic, really small, and expensive.. however a lot of people may want that drastic thing..

A few tricks to know when lightening:

1) Thoroughly cleanse the skin and SCRUB the dead skin away with a scrub Every time you lighten. You can make your own at home with sugar and almond oil. If desperate--use cooking oil! Scrub skin in shower FIRST, then shower with soap afterwards to get rid of the oily feeling..
After scrubbing skin, use the lightening cream on the body and/or face areas. Put the cream on ONCE a day to make it a gradual process

2) Lighten the BODY FIRST! The body is the most hardest to lighten since it is thick skinned. So lighten the body first and then lighten the face. The face is the most EASIEST to lighten. Takes a short period! You don't want to have a ghost face and a dark body! So once you get your body close 2 your desired complexion, put the lightening cream on the face once a week.. THAT's ALL U NEED when it comes to your face.. trust me!

3) Wear SUNSCREEN that protects against UVB and UVA rays to maintain skin complexion. Also regular use can make skin LIGHTER. Not only that but skin will look much healthier and glowing since it protects your skin from sun damage AND WRINKLES! YOUTHFUL APPEARANCE. Try Neutrogena Cooling Mist for $10.. works absolutely great.. sprays on easy and smells nice(not like bugspray)

4) Do not use products that contain hydroquine as they may revert skin back to original color and or cause skin cancer.

5) Try to create a NATURAL color for yourself or else it will DEF. look like your bleaching. Look at your inner arm which is basically the lightest part on the body. THe lightest you should go is that color and no where pass that! Try one shade darker than that color..

6) Results aren't permanent UNLESS you were actually already that light before and you just got a serious tan.. other than that.. you need PROPER Maintenance with the lightening product. Easiest thing to do is take the MAKARI pills (1 a day instead of 2) to maintain complexion as well as using sunscreen. And if you were lighter already and got a serious tan, that means your skin is PRONE to tanning and will most likely have to be maintained as well with makari lotions ONCE a week.. or makari pills two times a week... as well as sunscreen

Makari products are pretty expensive but they do GREAT WORK! I thought it was not working for me but it is a GRADUAL process that you shouldn't mind waiting for. Your skin is precious and it needs to be treated as such with QUALITY products. Just keep at it and it will work--I PROMISE.. ALSO, the BEST thing about makari products is that it DOES NOT blatantly labels the bottles BLEACHING CREAM.. lol! You can lkeave the lotion and creams all over your dresser and no one will know that it is for lighten. The only product that tells you it about whitening is the oralight pills box which say is maxamizes the whitening potentional but it is easy ti get rid of the box or hide it!

The lotions and creams are great because it actually makes your skin look better.. so although some people may not like them.. it is really good for you and the overall look and health of your skin..

THE PILLS DO WORK THOUGH! Makari oralight pills at makari.com I think its 35 bucks.. try it! I KNOW it works because it wasn't until I started taking the pillls that I started to lighten up. The beautifying lotion was not as effective without it.. so the pill description does what it promises. And It works ALONE if you want it to but give it a couple months!

GOOD LUCK!

Any questions feel free to ask! :)

Vahid

Nov 28, 2007, 01:22 AM

People,

Try MAKARI oralight pills!! They work! Give it a couple months but it is a gradual process which doesn't make you look like you are bleaching! Why are people so much in a rush! People WILL notice if you get lighter in a week! Gradual changes makes it look like you are just maturing..or perhaps a seasonal color...or perhaps taking care of yourself

Anywho, the pill are wonderful. I use 2 a day along with Makari's body beautifying lotion and it is slowly but surely working. I am really glowing..which is exactly what I wanted. Don't really care about being light more so than looking ALIVE..lol. but I am def. lightening up and very much GLOWING..really!

Makari pills DO work great by themselves..however it makes the wait a lot shorter when using the body beautifying lotion. The caviar cream I believe is WAY too drastic, really small, and expensive.. however alot of people may want that drastic thing..

A few tricks to know when lightening:

1) Thoroughly cleanse the skin and SCRUB the dead skin away with a scrub EVERYTIME u lighten. You can make your own at home with sugar and almond oil. If desperate--use cooking oil! Scrub skin in shower FIRST, then shower with soap afterwards to get rid of the oily feeling..
After scrubbing skin, use the lightening cream on the body and/or face areas. Put the cream on ONCE a day to make it a gradual process

2) Lighten the BODY FIRST! The body is the most hardest to lighten since it is thick skinned. So lighten the body first and then lighten the face. The face is the most EASIEST to lighten. Takes a short period of time! You don't want to have a ghost face and a dark body!! So once you get ur body close 2 ur desired complexion, put the lightening cream on the face once a week..THAT's ALL U NEED when it comes to ur face..trust me!

3) Wear SUNSCREEN that protects against UVB and UVA rays to maintain skin complexion. Also regular use can make skin LIGHTER. Not only that but skin will look much healthier and glowing since it protects your skin from sun damage AND WRINKLES! YOUTHFUL APPEARANCE. Try Neutrogena Cooling Mist for $10..works absolutely great..sprays on easy and smells nice(not like bugspray)

4) Do not use products that contain hydroquine as they may revert skin back to original color and or cause skin cancer.

5) Try to create a NATURAL color for yourself or else it will DEF. look like ur bleaching. Look at your inner arm which is basically the lightest part on the body. THe lightest you should go is that color and no where pass that! Try one shade darker than that color..

6) Results aren't permanent UNLESS you were actually already that light before and you just got a serious tan..other than that..you need PROPER MAINTAINENCE with the lightening product. Easiest thing to do is take the MAKARI pills (1 a day instead of 2) to maintain complexion as well as using sunscreen. And if you were lighter already and got a serious tan, that means ur skin is PRONE to tanning and will most likely have to be maintained as well with makari lotions ONCE a week.. or makari pills two times a week...as well as sunscreen

Makari products are pretty expensive but they do GREAT WORK! i thought it was not working for me but it is a GRADUAL process that you shouldn't mind waiting for. Your skin is precious and it needs to be treated as such with QUALITY products. Just keep at it and it will work--I PROMISE..! ALSO, the BEST thing about makari products is that it DOES NOT blatantly labels the bottles BLEACHING CREAM..lol!! You can lkeave the lotion and creams all over ur dresser and no one will know that it is for lighten. The only product that tells you it about whitening is the oralight pills box which say is maxamizes the whitening potentional but it is easy ti get rid of the box or hide it!

The lotions and creams are great because it actually makes your skin look better..so although some people may not like them..it is really good for you and the overall look and health of ur skin..

THE PILLS DO WORK THOUGH! Makari oralight pills at makari.com I think its 35 bucks..try it! I KNOW it works because it wasn't until I started taking the pillls that I started to lighten up. The beautifying lotion was not as effective without it..so the pill description does what it promises. And It works ALONE if you want it to but give it a couple months!

GOOD LUCK!!

Any questions feel free to ask! :)

Thanks for your awesome advice lovie! I will surely try that stuff. But do you want to know how the sun is here?? After using skin lightening creams and Magic Cream and glutathione soap etc etc... my face became about two shades lighter than the rest of my body. Until today. It was a 39 degree celsius day and I didn't even go out.. I drove for half an hour to and fro and my face is now the same colour as the rest of me and my right arm and hand is about 3 shadaes darker than my left arm. (drivers arm) That's HOW BAD IT IS IN AUSTRALIA!! I really don't think these pills and lotions are going to work so well.. sure ill definitely do the pills.. but I'm also going to try the monobenzone cream. Only because I know the sun will reverse any effect the pills and creams have. Example.. my cousin was about two shades lighter than me. He spent a week doing gardenning he is now about 3 shades darker than me.

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 06:48 AM

Thanks for your awesome advice lovie!! I will surely try that stuff. But do you wanna know how the sun is here???? After using skin lightening creams and Magic Cream and glutathione soap etc etc... my face became about two shades lighter than the rest of my body. Until today. It was a 39 degree celsius day and I didnt even go out.. I drove for half an hour to and fro and my face is now the same colour as the rest of me and my right arm and hand is about 3 shadaes darker than my left arm. (drivers arm) THATS HOW BAD IT IS IN AUSTRALIA!!! I really dont think these pills and lotions are gonna work so well.. sure ill definately do the pills.. but im also going to try the monobenzone cream. Only because I know the sun will reverse any effect the pills and creams have. Example.. my cousin was about two shades lighter than me. He spent a week doing gardenning he is now about 3 shades darker than me.

Does this menobenzone cream or ANY cream you have used have HYDROQUINE OR Steroids in them. The reason why I asked is because HYDROQUINE and STERIOD can actually make skin color DARKER when exposed to the sun.. especially without sunscreen! NO HYDROQUINE! Products with ARBUTIN and KOJIC ACID are great for lightening.. look for these products!

Listen, what I really recommend is

1) Makari pills. The makari pills not only help LIGHTEN but MAINTAIN skin complexion! I am certain of this!

2) You NEED sunscreen with UVB protection in order to protect you from cancer... and UVA RAYS to protect from SKIN TANNING! UVA rays are lurking everywhere.. even in the shade. The reflection of the sun from water, cars, window etc is actually tanning your skin. You need a sunscreen that is SPF 30 or MORE.. Nuetrogena cooling mist is SPF 45!! Since you live in such a hot climate, you HAVE to bring that sunscreen with you just in case it wears off! It s a SPRAY On so just take it up and lightly spray it all over there exposed body areas.. simple..

3) I think makari CREAMS are way to expensive! SO I suggest you try the papaya soap or black soap set. It is sold on EBAY for REALLY CHEAP even though its worth way more.. and there are rave reviews:

The black soap found here:
Skin Bleach Whitening Bleaching Lightening Fading Set 3 - (eBay item 200177962155 end time Dec-02-07 14:02:29 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Skin-Bleach-Whitening-Bleaching-Lightening-Fading-Set-3_W0QQitemZ200177962155QQihZ010QQcategoryZ40088QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

The papaya soap found here:
Body Skin Bleach Lightening Whitening Bleaching Set Kit - (eBay item 200177995361 end time Dec-02-07 15:54:57 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200177995361)

Make sure to read all the things she says about what to expect with the soap. If you sign up for eBay, you can even have a word to word with the seller and ask her which she thinks is better for you.. or which gives you the best results. From the look of it, it seems the black bar is leading. But it seems that if it irritates your skin, then the papaya is for you..

You must sign up with eBay to purchase it. Also, a credit card or debit card to pay through paypal because it is the EASIEST WAY!

THe whole set is there, just remember to give yourself time and patience! It will come and when it does.. wow.. you'll be amazed at the results. ESPECIALLY with the Makari pills working along with it.. trust!:cool:

Vahid

Nov 28, 2007, 08:44 AM

Does this menobenzone cream or ANY cream you have used have HYDROQUINE OR STERIODS in them. The reason why I asked is because HYDROQUINE and STERIOD can actually make skin color DARKER when exposed to the sun..especially without sunscreen!! NO HYDROQUINE! Products with ARBUTIN and KOJIC ACID are great for lightening..look for these products!!

Listen, what I really reccommend is

1) Makari pills. the makari pills not only help LIGHTEN but MAINTAIN skin complexion! I am certain of this!

2) You NEED sunscreen with UVB protection in order to protect you from cancer...........................and UVA RAYS to protect from SKIN TANNING! UVA rays are lurking everywhere..even in the shade. The reflection of the sun from water, cars, window etc is actually tanning ur skin. You need a sunscreen that is SPF 30 or MORE..Nuetrogena cooling mist is SPF 45!!! Since you live in such a hot climate, you HAVE to bring that sunscreen with you just in case it wears off! It s a SPRAY On so just take it up and lightly spray it all over ther exposed body areas..simple..

3) I think makari CREAMS are way to expensive! SO I suggest you try the papaya soap or black soap set. It is sold on EBAY for REALLY CHEAP even though its worth way more..and there are rave reviews:

The black soap found here:
Skin Bleach Whitening Bleaching Lightening Fading Set 3 - (eBay item 200177962155 end time Dec-02-07 14:02:29 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Skin-Bleach-Whitening-Bleaching-Lightening-Fading-Set-3_W0QQitemZ200177962155QQihZ010QQcategoryZ40088QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

The papaya soap found here:
Body Skin Bleach Lightening Whitening Bleaching Set Kit - (eBay item 200177995361 end time Dec-02-07 15:54:57 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200177995361)

make sure to read all the things she says about what to expect with the soap. If you sign up for ebay, you can even have a word to word with the seller and ask her which she thinks is better for you..or which gives you the best results. From the look of it, it seems the black bar is leading. But it seems that if it irritates your skin, then the papaya is for you..

You must sign up with ebay to purchase it. Also, a credit card or debit card to pay thru paypal b/c it is the EASIEST WAY!

THe whole set is there, just remember to give urself time and patience! it will come and when it does..wow..you'll be amazed at the results. ESPECIALLY with the Makari pills working along with it..trust!:cool:

Ill try the Makari pills and the SPF 45 sunscreen neutrogena spray sounds really good! Ive always wanted to apply SPF during the day without having to re moisturise. I think Glutathion pills are good too.. a good quality one. Because I don't know where to buy Mikari pills or how much. I think Magic cream has that hydroquine stuff in it because like I said my face went two shades darker without even me going right into the sun and with my windows down. I put SPF 30 on my arm and still it went dark as anything.. I guess what I'm saying is either my spf doesn't work so well (maybe because I keep it in the glovebox in the heat) or even your conventional spf doesn't guard you against tan. Actually from my experience spf doesn't make a huge difference in preventing tan. Your skin tans no matter what SPF is on it. Australian sun is very intense.. think opposite of england.. where its always cold and rainy.. its always hot!!

And oh yes Im aware of the various soaps available. Papaya and Black soap are very good.. but Kojic is also very good. Kojic products are very good and I think I will try them instead of Magic Cream. I like magic Cream allot though. My skin is very dry and magic cream is very thick so it suits me. I use L-glutathione soap, which is said to be more effective than Kojic, Papaya and Black soap. Black soap is better for more sensitive skin that can't handle the L-glutathione soap (or so I've been told). I think all these soaps do similar thing's and they are great, I want to try them all. These products are great and so nice to use. :)

PunkChic

Nov 28, 2007, 08:56 AM

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 09:08 AM

Ill try the Makari pills and the SPF 45 sunscreen neutrogena spray sounds really good! Ive always wanted to apply SPF during the day without having to re moisturise. I think Glutathion pills are good too.. a good quality one. Because I don't know where to buy Mikari pills or how much. I think Magic cream has that hydroquine stuff in it because like I said my face went two shades darker without even me going right into the sun and with my windows down. I put SPF 30 on my arm and still it went dark as anything.. I guess what im saying is either my spf doesnt work so well (maybe cus i keep it in the glovebox int he heat) or even your conventional spf doesnt guard u against tan. Actually from my experience spf doesnt make a huge difference in preventing tan. Your skin tans no matter what SPF is on it. Australian sun is very intense.. think opposite of england.. where its always cold and rainy.. its always hot!!!

And oh yes Im aware of the various soaps available. Papaya and Black soap are very good.. but Kojic is also very good. Kojic products are very good and I think I will try them instead of Magic Cream. I like magic Cream allot though. My skin is very dry and magic cream is very thick so it suits me. I use L-glutathione soap, which is said to be more effective than Kojic, Papaya and Black soap. Black soap is better for more sensitive skin that can't handle the L-glutathione soap (or so I've been told). I think all these soaps do similar thing's and they are great, I want to try them all. These products are great and so nice to use. :)

I think the reason why the suncreen did not work for you is because you did not have a sunscreen that blocked UVA ANNNND UVB rays. Many sunscreens are being pulled off the market because they have been LYING about protection! YEAH, I know.. right? SOme do not protect against what they say the protect from. Neutrogena is a trusted brand and I assure you it works.

To get the makari pills all you have to do is go on MAKARI.COM search for the pills and click add to my cart.. and proceed from there.. pretty simple.

Try those products you mentioned if you like! Which ever one works best for u! Just make sure it contains no Hydroquine and steroids.. or that they are not LYING about not containing it or making up FAKE INGREDIENT NAMES. I think Makari has been FDA approved! Which is great to know!

Vahid

Nov 28, 2007, 09:19 AM

i think the reason why the suncreen did not work for you is because you did not have a sunscreen that blocked UVA ANNNND UVB rays. Many sunscreens are being pulled off the market because they have been LYING about protection! YEAH, i know.. right? SOme do not protect against what they say the protect from. Neutrogena is a trusted brand and I assure you it works.

To get the makari pills all u have to do is go on MAKARI.COM search for the pills and click add to my cart..and proceed from there..pretty simple.

Try those products you mentioned if u like! Which ever one works best for u! Just make sure it contains no Hydroquine and steroids..or that they are not LYING about not containing it or making up FAKE INGREDIENT NAMES. I think Makari has been FDA approved! Which is great to know!

Actually it is a very good cream. It's QV face moisturising day cream with spf 30+ and it is a trusted brand and it has got UVB and UVA protection. I will buy the Mikari pills if they are affordable. Its just that I buy most my stuff off one person because its cheaper trapsort that way and this lady does it at a good price but she doesn't sell Mikari pills. I imagine that the Mikari pills are just mainly L-glutathione anyway. I wouldn't go crazy about any particular brand of pill. Oh and about Dr James pills... (to the other lady.. ) one person was sold a fake one but I don't believe all those pills that are manufactured are fake. Especially when they have the original seal.

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 09:22 AM

The papaya/black soap are by Diana Stalder. The links you put up there, they do not have the correct DS labels on it. I suggest anyone wanting to buy the papaya/black soap must buy it from a seller that sells the genuine labeled Diana Stalder stuff. :cool:

Well, I think they are pretty truthful. I think they are real..
The results are the same.. spoke to many of customers who have bought the expensive and this one and they say it is the same thing.. just cheaper! So, maybe the bar was not turned around properly to sport the name.. or maybe something else but I do believe this is genuine.. probably you should test it yourself to believe... ;)

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 09:25 AM

Actually it is a very good cream. It's QV face moisturising day cream with spf 30+ and it is a trusted brand and it has got UVB and UVA protection. I will buy the Mikari pills if they are affordable. Its just that I buy most my stuff off one person because its cheaper trapsort that way and this lady does it at a good price but she doesn't sell Mikari pills. I imagine that the Mikari pills are just mainly L-glutathione anyway. I wouldn't go crazy about any particular brand of pill. Oh and about Dr James pills... (to the other lady..) one person was sold a fake one but I dont beleive all those pills that are manufactured are fake. Especially when they have the original seal.

I think Makari pills are basic L-glutathione pills WITH the added vitamin E(I think) that helps to lighten more quick. It also has other ingredients that are good lightening agents.. Makari pills is about $35..

Vahid

Nov 28, 2007, 09:33 AM

I think Makari pills are basic L-glutathione pills WITH the added vitamin E(i think) that helps to lighten quicker. It also has other ingredients that are good lightening agents..Makari pills is about $35..

See I don't trust any L-glutathione pills with Vit E in them. I heard it is a bad thing. All you need is L-Glutathione, Vitamin C and Alpha Lipioc Acid if you want. The pills I'm taking are really good.. they are WHITE pills and have 700mg L-Glutathione, 150mg Vit C and 150mg Alpha Lipioc Acid. Oh and don't forget about the placeba effect! (In regards to your claim of effectivity of the Mikari pills) Ganda is the only person I know who sells the WHITE pills. Most other ones have 500mg L-Glutathione except Dr James. I think that I am going to try the Kojic soap next time. I think it's very effective and gentle on skin. Kojic Soap & Dr James,its all the same really! Just slightly different forumulations and prices.

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 09:45 AM

The papaya/black soap are by Diana Stalder. The links you put up there, they do not have the correct DS labels on it. I suggest anyone wanting to buy the papaya/black soap must buy it from a seller that sells the genuine labeled Diana Stalder stuff. :cool:

And also, I believe the seller is trying to be DISCREET. She wants people to be able to put the bottle anywhere without people KNOWING that you bleack just by the big container that says, "SKIN LIGHTENER" or "SKIN BLEACH".. so not cool!

But these products are genuine! If it wasn't, she wouldn't have so mnay positive reviews from people who've already used the one with the label on it. It's the same.. just bottled anonymously so people don't know you are doing what u are doing! She is very aware of people being self-concious about it.. even when she sends you the item it is DISCREETLY packaged as to have no one suspect what you are doing

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 10:13 AM

See I don't trust any L-glutathione pills with Vit E in them. I heard it is a bad thing. All you need is L-Glutathione, Vitamin C and Alpha Lipioc Acid if you want. The pills im taking are really good.. they are WHITE pills and have 700mg L-Glutathione, 150mg Vit C and 150mg Alpha Lipioc Acid. Oh and don't forget about the placeba effect! (In regards to your claim of effectivity of the Mikari pills) Ganda is the only person I know who sells the WHITE pills. Most other ones have 500mg L-Glutathione except Dr James. I think that I am going to try the Kojic soap next time. I think it's very effective and gentle on skin. Kojic Soap & Dr James,its all the same really! Just slightly different forumulations and prices.

Makari has vitamin c and vitamin e with bearberry leaves.. and some other stuff..
I don't c anything about L-gluthione on it so I guess it's not that..

Makari is not a placebo.. it is FDA approved.. and it does actually do the job. I;m not a phsycho. As you can see, I said, I THINK I didn't say it DEF. was. L-Gluthione..

Makari is a safe and effective way of lightening the skin. All natural which is the best way!
The products work very well with each.

U seem a bit arrogant when it comes to lightening your skin. If you already have the solution, then don't bother to ask. Don't look like you took anyone's "word" of advice.
Don't see your point.

Don't mean to come off rude or what not.. but sheesh.. you have some nerve trying to make it look like I DREAMED up being lighter..

I wanted to tell people of Makari because it is a GREAT QUALITY product.. and I was really shocked and happy that it was working! I was very skeptical. I read so much and see so much people mess up there skin with cheap products.. then DAMAGE there respiratory systems and all.. WHITENING CAN DO THAT if you don't do it safely. Also, it can DAMAGE YOUR SKIN severely! Your skin is not superman, people! This is YOUR BODY.. that may never be able to be fixed if u with it. Do things right.. instead of cutting corners..

But your like jumping to so many different products you will never find out the true results. It takes patience and time..

Stick to the kojic acid and G-pills for a while.see if it works for you..

Anyway, good luck! Other people who have read my advice.. this makari think does work. Most people love the caviar face cream as well as the day and night cream because it works fast. The body beautifying milk works pretty slow and works better with the pills.

ffazil2002

Nov 28, 2007, 01:01 PM

Makari has vitamin c and vitamin e with bearberry leaves..and some other stuff..
I don't c anything about L-gluthione on it so I guess it's not that..

Makari is not a placebo..it is FDA approved..and it does actually do the job. i;m not a phsycho. As you can see, i said, I THINK I didn't say it DEF. was. L-Gluthione..

Makari is a safe and effective way of lightening the skin. All natural which is the best way!
The products work very well with each.

U seem a bit arrogant when it comes to lightening ur skin. if you already have the solution, then don't bother to ask. Don't look like you took anyones "word" of advice.
Don't see your point.

Don't mean to come off rude or what not..but sheesh..you have some nerve trying to make it look like I DREAMED up being lighter..

I wanted to tell people of Makari because it is a GREAT QUALITY product..and I was really shocked and happy that it was working! I was very skeptical. I read so much and see so much people mess up there skin with cheap products..then DAMAGE there respiratory systems and all.. WHITENING CAN DO THAT if you don't do it safely. Also, it can DAMAGE YOUR SKIN severly! your skin is not superman, people! This is YOUR BODY..that may never be able to be fixed if u with it. Do things right..instead of cutting corners..

but your like jumping to so many different products you will never find out the true results. It takes patience and time..

Stick to the kojic acid and G-pills for a while.see if it works for you..

Anywho, good luck! Other people who have read my advice..this makari think does work. most people love the caviar face cream as well as the day and night cream becuz it works fast. The body beautifying milk works pretty slow and works better with the pills.

I am using makari night cream and milk for more than 4 weeks. Yet to see any improvement in terms of lightening. I heard it takes 6-8 weeks so I will continue using it for 4-5 weeks more before giving up. I heard that makari can make 2 shades but there are other products which can as much as 6 shades. Bio-claire made 4-5 shades, but after 10 weeks of using bio claire on face, it stated to reacting with my foundation and I was getting dark. However bioclaire is best for body. After 15 weeks my body is still 4-5 shades lighter.

PunkChic

Nov 28, 2007, 02:23 PM

And also, I believe the seller is trying to be DISCREET. She wants people to be able to put the bottle anywhere without people KNOWING that you bleack just by the big container that says, "SKIN LIGHTENER" or "SKIN BLEACH"..so not cool!

But these products are genuine! If it wasn't, she wouldn't have so mnay positive reviews from people who've already used the one with the label on it. It's the same..just bottled anonymously so people don't know you are doing what u are doing! She is very aware of people being self-concious about it..even when she sends you the item it is DISCREETLY packaged as to have no one suspect what you are doing

If you want to believe it's genuine then that's up to you. In my opinion it's not worth the savings to put my skin at risk. It may well be genuine, but I would rather not damage my skin by using unlabeled products. It could contain ANYTHING! I'd rather pay a few dollars more knowing I definitely have the genuine article.
As I said, it may well be genuine, my advise is if in doubt don't buy unlabeled stuff. ;)

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 06:06 PM

I am using makari night cream and milk for more than 4 weeks. Yet to see any improvement in terms of lightening. I heard it takes 6-8 weeks so I will continue using it for 4-5 weeks more before giving up. I heard that makari can make 2 shades but there are other products which can as much as 6 shades. Bio-claire made 4-5 shades, but after 10 weeks of using bio claire on face, it stated to reacting with my foundation and I was getting dark. However bioclaire is best for body. After 15 weeks my body is still 4-5 shades lighter.

Continue with the makari product. The caviar face cream is the best for radical change... but it is SO SMALL and so expensive!

THe body beautyfying lotion takes A LONG TIME to lighten the skin. It is best to use makari creams WITH makari oralight pills. I was using the body lotion and it was an Extremely slow process! When I started taking the lightening pills.. my body began to lighten in a glowing fashion. My marks were disappearing as well and my skin was looking rather smooth and silky..

Keep to it! It will work. It's a gradual process, the longer u use it the better. Just keep going! Order the pills.. and you'll c what I'm talking about!

But bioclare sounds pretty awesome.. how much? And does it transform your skin into a silky glowing complexion?

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 06:08 PM

If you want to believe it's genuine then that's up to you. In my opinion it's not worth the savings to put my skin at risk. It may well be genuine, but I would rather not damage my skin by using unlabeled products. It could contain ANYTHING! I'd rather pay a few dollars more knowing I definitely have the genuine article.
As I said, it may well be genuine, my advise is if in doubt don't buy unlabeled stuff. ;)

True.. very true! I do trust this seller.. but u never know.. BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY!
:p! They have the black soap on eBay from other sellers with the logo for cheap too so just search people.. it's there..

Vahid

Nov 28, 2007, 06:23 PM

Makari has vitamin c and vitamin e with bearberry leaves..and some other stuff..
I don't c anything about L-gluthione on it so I guess it's not that..

Makari is not a placebo..it is FDA approved..and it does actually do the job. i;m not a phsycho. As you can see, i said, I THINK I didn't say it DEF. was. L-Gluthione..

Makari is a safe and effective way of lightening the skin. All natural which is the best way!
The products work very well with each.

U seem a bit arrogant when it comes to lightening ur skin. if you already have the solution, then don't bother to ask. Don't look like you took anyones "word" of advice.
Don't see your point.

Don't mean to come off rude or what not..but sheesh..you have some nerve trying to make it look like I DREAMED up being lighter..

I wanted to tell people of Makari because it is a GREAT QUALITY product..and I was really shocked and happy that it was working! I was very skeptical. I read so much and see so much people mess up there skin with cheap products..then DAMAGE there respiratory systems and all.. WHITENING CAN DO THAT if you don't do it safely. Also, it can DAMAGE YOUR SKIN severly! your skin is not superman, people! This is YOUR BODY..that may never be able to be fixed if u with it. Do things right..instead of cutting corners..

but your like jumping to so many different products you will never find out the true results. It takes patience and time..

Stick to the kojic acid and G-pills for a while.see if it works for you..

Anywho, good luck! Other people who have read my advice..this makari think does work. most people love the caviar face cream as well as the day and night cream becuz it works fast. The body beautifying milk works pretty slow and works better with the pills.

Okay sweetie I will see if I can get ahold of the Makari products. Sorry if I offended you. I also want to try that bio claire oil. And yes I heard bearberry is very good for lightening skin. So you must be right with Makari.

beau_619

Nov 28, 2007, 06:25 PM

Makari has vitamin c and vitamin e with bearberry leaves..and some other stuff..
I don't c anything about L-gluthione on it so I guess it's not that..

Makari is not a placebo..it is FDA approved..and it does actually do the job. i;m not a phsycho. As you can see, i said, I THINK I didn't say it DEF. was. L-Gluthione..

Makari is a safe and effective way of lightening the skin. All natural which is the best way!
The products work very well with each.

U seem a bit arrogant when it comes to lightening ur skin. if you already have the solution, then don't bother to ask. Don't look like you took anyones "word" of advice.
Don't see your point.

Don't mean to come off rude or what not..but sheesh..you have some nerve trying to make it look like I DREAMED up being lighter..

I wanted to tell people of Makari because it is a GREAT QUALITY product..and I was really shocked and happy that it was working! I was very skeptical. I read so much and see so much people mess up there skin with cheap products..then DAMAGE there respiratory systems and all.. WHITENING CAN DO THAT if you don't do it safely. Also, it can DAMAGE YOUR SKIN severly! your skin is not superman, people! This is YOUR BODY..that may never be able to be fixed if u with it. Do things right..instead of cutting corners..

but your like jumping to so many different products you will never find out the true results. It takes patience and time..

Stick to the kojic acid and G-pills for a while.see if it works for you..

Anywho, good luck! Other people who have read my advice..this makari think does work. most people love the caviar face cream as well as the day and night cream becuz it works fast. The body beautifying milk works pretty slow and works better with the pills.

Hi lovely, thank you for posting! I am of medium skin color, about the completion of denzel Washington on my face arms and legs but everywhere else I'm am much lighter... I have been reading these posts for a while... since 2006... and haven't tried a single thing because like you I value my skin and do not want to damage it with products offering false hopes.

you sound very knowledgeable about this industry and I was wondering if you have ever heard of swiss whitening pills or avre skin whitening pills?. Those are the last two products I don't have a cofirmed opinion on and I would like to be as informed about all the products out there before I begin to purchase anything. I am thinking of buying Avre or Makari whitening pills to improve the results of exterior application and I was thinking about scrubbing with the DS soap products and using the bio-claire skin lightening lotion. With this regiment I feel like I am sure to win the battle against the brown. What do you think?

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 10:44 PM

Okay sweetie I will see if I can get ahold of the Makari products. Sorry if I offended you. I also want to try that bio claire oil. And yes I heard bearberry is very good for lightening skin. So you must be right with Makari.

No problem honey. We are all good and well now! I'm pretty sure the makari pills will work well and help speed up the lightening process with pretty much ANY SAFE cream or oil you try. Makari is pretty expensive so I totally understand why you and others are on there toes of buying the creams. But you do get what you paid for!

But personally, I love the pills so I will keep that but DAMNIT the creams and lotions are breaking my pocket. Just ordered a new cream today that I got on eBay. It's called SKINACTIVES. It was 35 bucks and has EVERY SINGLE INGREDIENT that lightens skin SAFELY! It has ARBUTIN, KOJIC ACID, JOJOBA, LICOURICE.. so it should be amazingly effective. I will give you a heads up and how it is going!

But, I think when I get a job I'm going RIGHT back to makari because it is like LUXURY products I swear. It has natural antioxidants that actually hep the skin block the sun. However extra sunscreen help is necessary. My boyfriend is raving over the softeness and silkiness of my skin which the lotion is doing. He doesn't really recognize that I'm lightening up. Just thinks I am taking care of myself and maturing beautifully... which is exactly what I want. Wouldn't it be totally embarrassing if someone said, "hey are you whitening?".. that's the last commment I want to hear.

My skin is just gorgeous right now! Never saw it so great! :D

BUT I SWEAR TO YOU THIS PILL WILL DO THE TRICK in helping to speed up whitening and illuminate your skin. I love this pill so much.. my skin is so.. sexy.. I think it's because of all the good ingredients for the skin that is making me glow.. oh makari.. u are the best ever!*sigh* But it works REALLY GOOD with creams and things so.. YES TRY IT! I'm spreading the good news!

lovely101

Nov 28, 2007, 11:40 PM

Hi lovely, thank you for posting! I am of medium skin color, about the completion of denzel washington on my face arms and legs but everywhere else I'm am much lighter....I have been reading these posts for a while...since 2006...and havent tried a single thing because like you I value my skin and do not want to damage it with products offering false hopes.

you sound very knowledgeable about this industry and I was wondering if you have ever heard of swiss whitening pills or avre skin whitening pills?...Those are the last two products I dont have a cofirmed opinion on and I would like to be as informed about all the products out there before I begin to purchase anything. I am thinking of buying Avre or Makari whitening pills to improve the results of exterior application and I was thinking about scrubbing with the DS soap products and using the bio-claire skin lightening lotion. With this regiment I feel like I am sure to win the battle against the brown. What do you think?

Makari whitening pills are EXCELLENT. They contain EXCELLENT whitening ingredients that helps to even out complexion. But it is a PROCESS! Give it about 3months if taking it alone! The swiss pills work well when you take vitamin C with it.. why take all those pills? Makari has everything plus more IN ONE Capsule! Just take TWO a day with a meal! Avre pills, I don't trust them beause I don't know WHAT ingredients the use on each product so I don't know how well the work! And don't know if they use hydroquine.. Makari gives u the ingredients for EVERY product on the sight and ALL are GREAT LIGHTENING INGREDIENTS!

SO MAKARI PILLS!

To speed up the process, MAKARI PILLS work EXCELLENT with creams as they help speed up the whitening process! I'm really not too sure of about bioclaire but a woman earlier said it worked REALLY well on the body but I am not sure as to the SAFENESS so I won't recommend.

I recommend that you try the DS black soap. Scrub skin thoroughly before you apply the soap as to treat fresh skin! When lightening you tend to SHED IMPROPERLY.. and u may THINK u are getting darker when indeed u are getting lighter UNDERNEATH but you have not scrubbed off that dead skin to reveal it! So you don't want to spend your time treating dead skin.. so scrub skin thoroughly before applying soap. The soap is not enough to scrub off all the shedding you will be doing! You can make YOUR OWN scrub with sugar and almond oil or castor oil or olive oil.. whatever! If desperate.. use cooking oil.. it works trust me.. lol..
Just wash it off with the soap!

Some people LEAVE the soap on the body to soak in order to get faster results. I really think it's a waste of time. Results will come in time. So after you finish treating your skin with the soap, use the DS bleaching lotion. Do this ONCE a day at night because this product is STRONG.. very potent! Plus, u are risking too much when you are treating your skin under the watch of the sun! You have to protect your skin EVEN MORE than normal! But it is not a sin to put it on during the day instead of night.. or even twice a day if the product doesn't bother u! If the product strength is too much for you.. cut back to every other day or 3 times a week OK? Don't forget to take the MAKARI pill as it will help to SPEED up the process even more! But BE PATIENT.. trust me.. this will work!

I like this seller however some people are concerned by the fact that she does not use the DS brandmark on her products. So although I trust her, I don't think YOU should. BUT she does give great encite as to what to expect when using the products:
Skin Bleach Whitening Bleaching Lightening Fading Set 3 - (eBay item 200177962155 end time Dec-02-07 14:02:29 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Skin-Bleach-Whitening-Bleaching-Lightening-Fading-Set-3_W0QQitemZ200177962155QQihZ010QQcategoryZ40088QQc mdZViewItem)

here is a more trustable buy:
STALDER Skin Whitening Bleach Set 3N1 BLACK SOAP belo - (eBay item 220177413226 end time Dec-04-07 02:01:22 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/STALDER-Skin-Whitening-Bleach-Set-3N1-BLACK-SOAP-belo_W0QQitemZ220177413226QQihZ012QQcategoryZ40088 QQcmdZViewItem)

MAKE SURE to lighten your BODY FIRST! Your face is the EASIEST place to lighten because the skin is thin there. The body's skin is very thick and takes a long time. I suggest you cream your face ONCE a week or even ONCE every TWO WEEKS. It is tooo easy to lighten your face to start there first! It will look a lot more natural to see the body lightening more so than JUST THE FACE because it DEF. looks like u are bleaching because how could your face be so light when it is the MOST exposed to sun! So many people walk around with ghost face and dark body.. makes no sense! The makari pill will be working on the face when you don't put the cream on it! The body includes the NECK too so make sure to put it on the neck and below every night or every other night whichever suits u!

ALSO, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS use a sunscreen with SPF 30 or more! I use Nuetrogena Cooling Mist Spray-on sunscreen. It is SPF 45, it is easy to spray! Smells good! Light feeling! No oily look! No bad reaction! Reapply if you are in the sun a lot! But always SPF! Also, SPF is said to help lighten u up too with regular use because it gives skin ability to heal from all the sunburns and tans..

Stick to it! Give it 3months all the way! Just keep going it will work for you! Let me know how it goes okay? :)

beau_619

Nov 29, 2007, 09:00 AM

I think that's a good strategy...But don't you think with all those products ingredients will not contradict with each other...

I don't think so... They are all meant to give the same result, right?. lightening your skin... may have to switch a few products here and there but I feel like I'd be maximizing results by using the best pill, srcub, and lotion out there. :)

lovely101

Nov 29, 2007, 08:29 PM

I am TOTALLY GETTING TOOO LIGHT NOW! WHAT THE HELL? I look so.. LIGHT! Have you all noticed that when you get lighter, you are treated differently? Sort of weird but more people are noticing me or something.

I am now using SKINACTIVES. I found the product on EBAY called the best lightening cream ever since it had EVERY lingredient to light at maximum strength! I am taking it with th emakari pills and it is doing some work after only 2 days of applying.

SKinactives can actually allow you to MAKE YOUR OWN SKIN LIGHTENING CREAM.. with the lightening ingredients. This one I bought was pre-made with the lotion. The unmade one requires u to mix the actives with your lotion!

If you want to know where to find this.. hit me up!

lovely101

Nov 29, 2007, 08:32 PM

Okay sweetie I will see if I can get ahold of the Makari products. Sorry if I offended you. I also want to try that bio claire oil. And yes I heard bearberry is very good for lightening skin. So you must be right with Makari.

VAHID THIS SKINACTIVE THING IS WORKING SO FAST! WITH THE MAKARI PILLS! I AM LIKE!? IT'S ONLY BEEN TWO DAYS AND I LOOK LIGHT AS GOD KNOWS WHAT! I think I've reached my desired color with this thing..

Do u want to try it!

Vahid

Nov 30, 2007, 01:13 AM

VAHID THIS SKINACTIVE THING IS WORKING SO FAST! WITH THE MAKARI PILLS! I AM LIKE !?? IT'S ONLY BEEN TWO DAYS AND I LOOK LIGHT AS GOD KNOWS WHAT!! I think I've reached my desired color with this thing..

do u want to try it!?

Im on skinactives.com at the moment. Yes the products do look promising. And oh yes people do treat you differently when you have lighter skin. It's amazing to see how much racism is really out there! And it's strange because most of my friends have dark or tanned skin and they are all beautiful to me. But allot of white people are racist and somehow think a person with lighter skin is more attractive or more superior. Stupid huh. Oh and by the way, what's the name of the cream you bought? Thank you darling, xx.

lovely101

Nov 30, 2007, 07:03 AM

Im on skinactives.com at the moment. yes the products do look promising. And oh yes people do treat you differently when you have lighter skin. It's amazing to see how much racism is really out there! And it's strange because most of my friends have dark or tanned skin and they are all beautiful to me. But allot of white people are racist and somehow think a person with lighter skin is more attractive or more superior. Stupid huh. Oh and by the way, what's the name of the cream you bought? Thank you darling, xx.

I bought it on eBay. The skinactive site just has the lightening actives.. like the arbutin and the kojic in its origninal element. You are suppose to buy the elements anhd mix it in your own lotion if you by the element yourself. I think that is so awesome to mix the chemicals you want and stop using the low-dose products..

BUT I bought the ready to use cream on eBay from ths companies store. I will give you the link: Best SKIN BRIGHTENING lightening cream sunspots melasma - (eBay item 180183974802 end time Dec-03-07 20:05:13 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Best-SKIN-BRIGHTENING-lightening-cream-sunspots-melasma_W0QQitemZ180183974802QQihZ008QQcategoryZ36 366QQcmdZViewItem).

I hope this cream is great for you!

I don't know if its only white people who are racist.. it's EVERYONE. I believe deep down in people's mine they rank lighter skin as better, richer, classier, and more successful. Maybe because they are usually the rich ones in society.. and people are just prone to assume that.

I am lightening my skin partially because I want glowing skin and partially for experimental purposes to see if lighter skin do get treated differently. I wasn't dark before.. kind of on the light side.. but now I'm def. on the light side. I'm def. getting treated differently.

Vahid

Nov 30, 2007, 08:22 AM

I bought it on ebay. The skinactive site just has the lightening actives..like the arbutin and the kojic in its origninal element. You are suppose to buy the elements anhd mix it in ur own lotion if you by the element urself. I think that is so awesome to mix the chemicals you want and stop using the low-dose products..

BUT I bought the the pre-made cream on ebay from ths companies store. I will give you the link: Best SKIN BRIGHTENING lightening cream sunspots melasma - (eBay item 180183974802 end time Dec-03-07 20:05:13 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Best-SKIN-BRIGHTENING-lightening-cream-sunspots-melasma_W0QQitemZ180183974802QQihZ008QQcategoryZ36 366QQcmdZViewItem).

I hope this cream is great for you!

I don't know if its only white people who are racist..it's EVERYONE. I believe deep down in people's mine they rank lighter skin as better, richer, classier, and more successful. Maybe because they are usually the rich ones in society..and people are just prone to assume that.

I am lightening my skin partially because I want glowing skin and partially for experimental purposes to see if lighter skin do get treated differently. I wasn't dark before..kind of on the light side..but now I'm def. on the light side. I'm def. getting treated differently.

I'll be the first to confess. That I am more likely to talk to a guy who I find attractive (yeah I'm gay... ) But in terms of how I treat people.. it's only how they treat me.. how they talk to me, and how they act/behave that matters. Like if they are a respectful person, who cares about others, or if they are more typical and conceited. As far as colour goes, I don't get why people can't appreciate people of all colours. Because we are all the same on the inside.. just some of us were handed down bodies in different colours. My best friend has had racism in her life because she is quite dark, but she found someone who loves her the way she is.

Still she does still want to change, and I'm helping her to do that. Because I believe how we look should be chosen by us and no one else. And yeah living in a western culure has come to the point that we have to change to fit in as sad as it is. We are noticed more and found more attractive if we have fairer skin. Although I don't ever want to lose my tan.. I think it's sexy. Why Would I want to be a white boy with blonde hair and fake blue eyes? Gosh ewe.. no thank you!!

Those skinactives products look promising. But the best way to permanently change your pigment, is through monobenzene. You see lovely these products you use may not be as effective on everyone else. We are different and some skin tones are less prove to change. But monobenzene will always change your skin colour no matter. And unlike other products, its permanent and if you stop using it your skin won't go back to its original colour and you won't go dark again if you go in the sun. It's a permanent skin depigmentator. But can be quite expensive and can have some serious side effects for some people such as patchy or streaky skin.

Still you want to turn light fast? Monobenzene is the way to go. It's rumoured that it is what Michael Jackson used. And many african people have completely depigmented their skin.. from black.. to snow white!! Anything is possible in the realm of beauty. (And I hope I can look 19 forever.. ) hahahahaha!

MUAH!

The Crazy And Slightly Drunk Vahid...

lovely101

Nov 30, 2007, 07:19 PM

I'll be the first to confess. That I am more likely to talk to a guy who I find attractive (yeah im gay...) But in terms of how I treat people.. it's only how they treat me.. how they talk to me, and how they act/behave that matters. Like if they are a respectful person, who cares about others, or if they are more typical and conceited. As far as colour goes, I don't get why people can't appreciate people of all colours. Because we are all the same on the inside.. just some of us were handed down bodies in different colours. My best friend has had racism in her life because she is quite dark, but she found someone who loves her the way she is.

Still she does still want to change, and im helping her to do that. Because I beleive how we look should be chosen by us and no one else. And yeah living in a western culure has come to the point that we have to change to fit in as sad as it is. We are noticed more and found more attractive if we have fairer skin. Although I don't ever want to lose my tan.. I think it's sexy. Why Would I wanna be a white boy with blonde hair and fake blue eyes? Gosh ewe.. no thank you!!!

Those skinactives products look promising. But the best way to permanently change your pigment, is through monobenzene. You see lovely these products you use may not be as effective on everyone else. We are different and some skin tones are less prove to change. But monobenzene will always change your skin colour no matter. And unlike other products, its permanent and if you stop using it your skin wont go back to its original colour and you won't go dark again if you go int he sun. It's a permanent skin depigmentator. But can be quite expensive and can have some serious side effects for some people such as patchy or streaky skin.

Still you wanna turn light fast? Monobenzene is the way to go. It's rumoured that it is what Michael Jackson used. And many african people have completely depigmented their skin.. from black.. to snow white!!! Anything is possible in the realm of beauty. (And I hope I can look 19 forever..) hahahahaha!

MUAH!

The Crazy And Slightly Drunk Vahid...

NO THANK YOU MONOBEN... whatever. THat's a real desperate move right there. I just want to GLOW.. not turn into an albino.. I think tan is sexy too.. and so is dark.. But attractiveness stems from GLOWINGNESS I believe and it's not about how light youa re.. just about how good looking your skin is. The only products that seems to make me radiate is lightening products.. I guess because of all the good for your skin ingredients that are not in our everyday moisturizer. I used to look so DULL.. now I look like.. POP.. because my skin is looking great.. all the marks are going away.. that's all I ever wanted.

Pretty sad WE ALL including white people have to conform to european beauty. Keep in mind that not every white person is sweet valley looking.. they too are VERY MUCH pressured to look like what is seen on TV. Minorites aren't the only ones who are pressured.. just that we are not as close to the european beauty as they are... But I mean if you take a look at California.. its basically a whole bunch of clones walking around. People who move there end up getting so caught up in looking like this big star. Most of them have had at least 2 plastic surgeries. Some are addicted. Almost everyone has a boob job.. everyone has to conform to that.

Pretty sad really.. but I think they'll be a day when DARK is in.. and everyone will be scurrying to be dark. Then Indian.. everyone will scurry to be indian. Hispanic.. every1 willl scurry to be hispanic... Brazilian and so on. They'll be a day when small boobs are.. just like how big butts are now in. I guess its just a FAD.. that will pass like everything else.

And you are very right that not every product works for everyone.. def. know that.. just trying to give a little idea of what worked for me!

But anyway, you are an aussie? I've always wanted to go there.. love the accents. How is it like?:o

Vahid

Nov 30, 2007, 09:34 PM

NO THANK YOU MONOBEN...whatever. THat's a real desperate move right there. I just want to GLOW..not turn into an albino.. I think tan is sexy too..and so is dark..But attractiveness stems from GLOWINGNESS i believe and it's not about how light youa re..just about how good looking your skin is. The only products that seems to make me radiate is lightening products..i guess because of all the good for your skin ingredients that are not in our everyday moisturizer. I used to look so DULL..now i look like..POP..because my skin is looking great..all the marks are going away..that's all I ever wanted.

Pretty sad WE ALL including white people have to conform to european beauty. Keep in mind that not every white person is sweet valley looking..they too are VERY MUCH pressured to look like what is seen on TV. Minorites arent the only ones who are pressured..just that we are not as close to the european beauty as they are...But I mean if u take a look at california..its basically a whole bunch of clones walking around. People who move there end up getting so caught up in looking like this big star. Most of them have had atleast 2 plastic surgeries. Some are addicted. Almost everyone has a boob job..everyone has to conform to that.

Pretty sad really..but I think they'll b a day when DARK is in..and every1 will be scurrying to be dark. Then Indian..everyone will scurry to be indian. Hispanic..every1 willl scurry to be hispanic...Brazilian and so on. they'll be a day when small boobs are..just like how big butts are now in. I guess its just a FAD..that will pass like everything else.

And youare very right that not every product works for every1..def. know that..just trying to give a little idea of what worked for me!

But anywho, you are an aussie?? I've always wanted to go there..love the accents. How is it like?:o

Lol actually lovie its very hot here! And what you were saying about darker skin... well in most Western countries people are so used to pale skin people that they rarely recognise those with darker skin tones. But of course darker skin is hot! There will always be someone out there who will think you look dynamite whatever your colour is. And I think it's more worth waiting for that person that trying to impress others.

And also.. its not just your colour its how you use it, for example. My best friend is Indian, she has quite dark skin... but... she wears clothes that stand out, and she died her hair brown... making a really nice contrast between her skin colour and hair. It makes all the difference. So I guess what I'm saying is that instead of confirming to a certain colour.. we can experiment with our own.. and see what hair colour and accessories match it.

Though I'm still curious as to what I would look like with pale skin, but I love my skin colour and want to be able to go back to it sometime in the future.. arrr... decisions decisions.

And those other products do work.. pills and such.. I thought it didn't work.. but I noticed my skin colour is the same as my big sister.. and she has always been two shades lighter than me.

Still I don't know where this lighter skin obsession came from? I think it's that a few people cracked jokes on it.. that and people used to always ask me what my background is. It's annoying and makes you feel segregated. But now the sun here is so potent that people are getting my colour... so it's becoming the norm to have quite tanned skin.

Still the curiosity never quite dies.. does it... what if??

lovely101

Nov 30, 2007, 10:33 PM

lol actually lovie its very hot here! And what you were saying about darker skin... well in most Western countries people are so used to pale skin people that they rarely recognise those with darker skin tones. But of course darker skin is hot! There will always be someone out there who will think you look dynamite whatever your colour is. And I think it's more worth waiting for that person that trying to impress others.

And also.. its not just your colour its how you use it, for example. My best friend is Indian, she has quite dark skin... but... she wears clothes that stand out, and she died her hair brown... making a really nice contrast between her skin colour and hair. It makes all the difference. So I guess what im saying is that instead of confirming to a certain colour.. we can experiment with our own.. and see what hair colour and accessories match it.

Though im still curious as to what I would look like with pale skin, but I love my skin colour and want to be able to go back to it sometime in the future.. arrr... decisions decisions.

And those other products do work.. pills and such.. I thought it didn't work.. but I noticed my skin colour is the same as my big sister.. and she has always been two shades lighter than me.

Still I don't know where this lighter skin obsession came from?? I think it's that a few people cracked jokes on it.. that and people used to always ask me what my background is. It's annoying and makes you feel segregated. But now the sun here is so potent that people are getting my colour... so it's becoming the norm to have quite tanned skin.

Still the curiosity never quite dies.. does it... what if???

TOTALLY! But I think, why can't we experiment with our skin color the same we do our hair.. or our eyes. We can always go back that color. I feel like its such a STIGMA for colored people to get LIGHTENING PRODUCTS. We often have to hide it.. get condemned for it.. it is just looked at as WRONG WRONG WRONG! But, then there's nothing wrong with getting a tan..

What I don't understand is how things are said to be sooo hideous and bad when a person of darker complexion has something.. but as soon as the lighter complexion person has it.. it's WOW. For example, Big butts were originally a black thing.. a bad thing... then JLO and beyonce comes out and then big butts are great! Then Thin lips were only sexy.. all of the sudden JOLIE comes out.. and Everyone thinks big lips are sexy. Maybe because they are confident with it.. which in turn makes them sexy.. or mayb because fair people decide what's sexy or not sexy.. don't know

I just wish.. I don't know.. that color was not so judged. Meaning, you are looked down on for being a color, and looked down for CHANGING your color. I don't think a lot of people hate themselves.. just feel like they are curious or just want bright skin!

I wish I can leave my bleaching cream out in the open without someone coming in my room and judging me for it. As if I've turned my back on something. Like who cares.. this is not my "natural" hair, those are not your "natural" eyes.. why can't I just experiment with my looks like someone experiments with there hair color. Why really gives a damn right?

I'm taking breast enhancement pills now.. so I wonder if it'll work! LOL.. I am purely experimenting with myself but my boobs won't ever go back to it's small size.. thats if it even works! LOL

Vahid

Dec 1, 2007, 02:03 AM

TOTALLY! But I think, why can't we experiment with our skin color the same we do our hair..or our eyes. We can always go back that color. I feel like its such a STIGMA for colored people to get LIGHTENING PRODUCTS. We often have to hide it..get condemned for it..it is just looked at as WRONG WRONG WRONG! But, then there's nothing wrong with getting a tan..

What I don't understand is how things are said to be sooo hideous and bad when a person of darker complexion has something..but as soon as the lighter complexion person has it..it's WOW. For example, Big butts were originally a black thing..a bad thing...then JLO and beyonce comes out and then big butts are great! Then Thin lips were only sexy..all of the sudden JOLIE comes out..and EVERY1 thinks big lips are sexy. Maybe becuz they are confident with it..which in turn makes them sexy..or mayb becuz fair people decide whats sexy or not sexy..don't know

I just wish..I don't know..that color was not so judged. Meaning, you are looked down on for being a color, and looked down for CHANGING your color. i don't think alot of people hate themselves..just feel like they are curious or just want bright skin!

i wish i can leave my bleaching cream out in the open without someone comming in my room and judging me for it. As if i've turned my back on something. Like who cares..this is not my "natural" hair, those are not your "natural" eyes..why can't I just experiment with my looks like someone experiments with there hair color. Why really gives a damn right?

I'm taking breast enhancement pills now..so I wonder if it'll work!! LOL..i am purely experimenting with myself but my boobs won't ever go back to it's small size..thats if it even works! LOL

Im not ashamed of it.. I tell people everything Ive had done. Yeah you are so right. People get tans all the time.. but when you get lighter skin its looked down upon. I guess it's up to the individual. Well I got my heart brocken today... so Im going to take it out on some major monobenzene hah... it might not heal my heart... but I guess it will get my mind off thing's. Listen lovely if you ever want to chat feel free to msn or Y me or whatever. Take care. x.

muna

Dec 1, 2007, 04:44 AM

Hello lovely101
Can you tell me what was your origin color (can you send me private pic, before and after) what are you using , pills and creams and so forth. Thanks for all the info you posted before, they are great, I just want to know step by step,

lovely101

Dec 1, 2007, 07:42 AM

Hello lovely101
can you tell me what was your origin color (can you send me private pic, before and after) what are you using , pills and creams and so forth. thanks for all the info you posted before, they are great, I just want to know step by step,

Hi muna!

Okay.. give me some time! I'll take a pic of my skin now! Then I will wait a little while and send you a private pic of me okay? No problem!

lovely101

Dec 1, 2007, 02:36 PM

Im not ashamed of it.. I tell people everything Ive had done. Yeah you are so right. People get tans all the time.. but when you get lighter skin its looked down upon. I guess it's up to the individual. Well I got my heart brocken today... so Im going to take it out on some major monobenzene hah... it might not heal my heart... but I guess it will get my mind off thing's. Listen lovely if you ever wanna chat feel free to msn or Y me or whatever. Take care. x.

I'm so sorry to hear about your broken heart, There are other fishes in the sea.. don't waste your precious life by sobbing.. trust me.. there's better things to sob about than some dumb ol' boy!

I will def. check you later on Yahoo.. peace!

lovie1

Dec 3, 2007, 08:00 AM

I just hope in all forums in this website sellers should be banned - it confuses us buyers and users. Let just do the research.

Yoou know I think that you're one of the ones that had negative experiences with the products you use. Why don't you just say so and let others know what you experience too

All feed back is good feedback no matter if it's good or bad.:)

lovie1

Dec 3, 2007, 08:28 AM

I was not comfortable telling all the negative things-

I'm not trying to make trouble here and I’m not pertaining to people who are very informative - i know you are just sharing your positive insights and experiences. I'm just talking to other people here....THE SELLERS...if they want to share please tell real experiences happened to them and not PROMOTING or ADVERTICING...that's all thanks.
I agree to that and that's real

lovely101

Dec 3, 2007, 09:45 AM

I just hope in all forums in this website sellers should be banned - it confuses us buyers and users. Let just do the research.

Totally right.. but I haven't noticed anyone being fishy..

How would anyone know if someone is a seller. I c a lot of people get scold for raving about a product.. they are called sellers when indeed they just like the product! We as posters need to be a little less judgemental too, I think!

lovie1

Dec 3, 2007, 09:54 AM

Totally right..but I haven't noticed anyone being fishy..?

How would anyone know if someone is a seller. i c a lot of people get scold for raving about a product..they are called sellers when indeed they just like the product! We as posters need to be a little less judgemental too, i think!
You're so right that's why people don't give testimonials about what products they used in fear of being called a seller or advertiser shame. Damn shame

Vahid

Dec 4, 2007, 09:12 AM

I know it's going to take time. Months even.. to achieve lighter shades... Im going to be using L-glutathione pills, Kojic Soap and Monobenzene. And I'm going to mix Rose Hip Oil into my night cream and day SPF cream. Im sure in the end its worth it and ill be bringing myself closer to the lighter complexion I've always wanted. I have already sent my order in for Mono and await it's delivery to my home.

Thank you all of you for sharing your experiences, I will also share my experiences with you even if it does take months and months I will keep you all posted, you deserve to know what's going on! I am going to mix some mono with SPF sunscreen for the day and normal lotion for the night. Has anybody got any good products which are inexpensive and come in big amounts that I can mix the mono with? Something that gives you nice beautiful silky smooth skin. I guess you might as well go all the way with it and look your best! :)

I also hope that this treatment will make me look, younger and more vibrant and youthful and fresher like the I've been eating vegies all my life and just came out of high school look. :P I might match it off with some microdermabrasion on my face. (hey.. you can never look too young right?) and laser/IPL to get rid of those annoying hairs.. permanently! :) Ahhh.. what a hobby I have :P he he he! <3

Muah!

beau_619

Dec 4, 2007, 07:59 PM

I know it's going to take time. Months even.. to acheive lighter shades... Im going to be using L-glutathione pills, Kojic Soap and Monobenzene. And im going to mix Rose Hip Oil into my night cream and day SPF cream. Im sure in the end its worth it and ill be bringing myself closer to the lighter complexion ive always wanted. I have already sent my order in for Mono and await it's delivery to my home.

Thank you all of you for sharing your experiences, I will also share my experiences with you even if it does take months and months I will keep you all posted, you deserve to know what's going on! I am going to mix some mono with SPF sunscreen for the day and normal lotion for the night. Has anybody got any good products which are inexpensive and come in big amounts that I can mix the mono with? Something that gives you nice beautiful silky smooth skin. I guess you might as well go all the way with it and look your best! :)

I also hope that this treatment will make me look, younger and more vibrant and youthful and fresher like the I've been eating vegies all my life and just came out of high school look. :P I might match it off with some microdermabrasion on my face. (hey.. you can never look too young right?) and laser/IPL to get rid of those annoying hairs.. permanently! :) Ahhh.. what a hobby I have :P he he he! <3

Muah!

Vahid, I did some reading up on monobenzene... there are a lot of articles about the damage it can do if your not really light skinned already... "they" also say that it can cause darker skin to become blotchy as it does not lighten evenly... how long have you been using it and have you noticed any of these problems?

Vahid

Dec 5, 2007, 06:45 AM

Vahid, I did some reading up on monobenzene...there are alot of articles about the damage it can do if your not really light skinned already..."they" also say that it can cause darker skin to become blotchy as it does not lighten evenly...how long have you been using it and have you noticed any of these problems?

I haven't begun yet.
I understand what you are saying. There is allot of risk involved in everything in life. But I do believe the change will be gradual. I hope so anyway.

Vahid

Dec 5, 2007, 06:49 AM

you're so right that's why people don't give testimonials about what products they used in fear of being called a seller or advertiser shame. damn shame

Lovie so I'm just clarifying.. you've been using monobenzene for over a year at 20% and you've experienced no vitiligo effect? (Just gradual lightening?) I just need this confirmation before I begin my mono therapy. Thank You. :)

lovie1

Dec 5, 2007, 08:21 AM

lovie so im just clarifying.. youve been using monobenzene for over a year at 20% and you've experienced no vitiligo effect? (Just gradual lightening?) I just need this confirmation before I begin my mono therapy. Thank You. :)

Yes that is correct I NEVER EXPERIENCE VITILIGO.. YOU DON'T GET VITILIGO FROM MONOBENZONE.. PERIOD.

AND YES MONOPRODUCES GRADUAL LIGHTENING .as I said before monobenzone only depigments the skin after years of use IN THOSE THAT HAVE NORMAL SKIN.VITLIGO PERSONS DEPIGMENT FASTER BECAUSE THIER MELAIN CELLS ARE ALREADY WEAK. ABNORMAL

EXAMPLE imagine a person who is already spotty with vitaligo the skin disease. Now when those people use monobenzone it does'nt produce more vitaligo spots it lightens the darker skin areas to match the vitaligo spots and this process is gradual.
\GRADUAL PEOPLE. GRADUAL.

lovie1

Dec 5, 2007, 08:24 AM

I Wish Some People With Vitailgo Will Come In Here And Let You People Know That When They Depigmented That It Was'nt In Spots But In Gradual Even Stages.

It Is Very Rare That A Person Depigs Spotty.

Hamid28

Dec 5, 2007, 09:03 AM

I Wish Some People With Vitailgo Will Come In Here And Let You People Know That When They Depigmented That It Was'nt In Spots But In Gradual Even Stages.

It Is Very Rare That A Person Depigs Spotty.

Don't know where you get your info from but I do know that it's dangerious what your doing get your facts straight... NO IT"S NOT SAFE TO USE MONOBENZONE IF YOU DON"T HAVE VIT!! Do not listen to these fools saying otherwise.

Read this quote from an official vit. Site :

They always find some excuse not to make it. I believe that there is not enough money to be made from a cream that serves only a single purpose — to depigment completely only those people with extensive vitiligo who will accept being totally white. But for those who need it, that cream is essential. Benoquin should never be used as a general lightening agent for people with normal dark skin because most will end up with disfiguring white streaks that can be worse than vitiligo. Patients with an unstable pigmentary system, such as those with vitiligo, depigment easily and usually completely.

Or read the whole story.. anyway all you people on this forum looking for safe way to lighten your skin,there a lot of good creams out there but also a few not to be used.Monobenzone or Benoquin is one of them don't listen to just everybody do you research.Your skin is your biggest organ so be careful with it, I'm shocked at the latest comments how some people are so desperate " to just try anything"...

Check the full story :

National Vitiligo Foundation, INC. - Depigmentation (http://www.nvfi.org/pages/info_depigmentation.html)

Salam.

lovie1

Dec 5, 2007, 09:25 AM

Don't know where you get your info from but I do know that it's dangerious what your doing get your facts straight...NO IT"S NOT SAFE TO USE MONOBENZONE IF YOU DON"T HAVE VIT!!!! do not listen to these fools saying otherwise.

Read this quote from an offical vit. site :

They always find some excuse not to make it. I believe that there is not enough money to be made from a cream that serves only a single purpose — to depigment completely only those people with extensive vitiligo who will accept being totally white. But for those who need it, that cream is essential. Benoquin should never be used as a general lightening agent for people with normal dark skin because most will end up with disfiguring white streaks that can be worse than vitiligo. Patients with an unstable pigmentary system, such as those with vitiligo, depigment easily and usually completely.

Or read the whole story..anyway all you people on this forum looking for safe way to lighten your skin,there a lot of good creams out there but also a few not to be used.Monobenzone or Benoquin is one of them dont listen to just everybody do you research.Your skin is your biggest organ so be carefull with it, I'm shocked at the latest comments how some people are so desperate " to just try anything".......

check the full story :

National Vitiligo Foundation, INC. - Depigmentation (http://www.nvfi.org/pages/info_depigmentation.html)

Salam.

And if that was the case I would be spotty after 1yr. 2mos of mono use.
Monobenzone does not cause vit now i'm a USER SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE.ARE YOU SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE?

Vahid

Dec 5, 2007, 04:59 PM

And if that was the case i would be spotty after 1yr. 2mos of mono use.
monobenzone does not cause vit now i'm a USER SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE.ARE YOU SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE?

Thanks lovie.. that's right.. as soon as you want to do something.. people want to scare you into not doing it.. everything has risks.. that's life... I might go to the city and catch a fatal disease.. woopdeedooda.

lovely101

Dec 5, 2007, 08:21 PM

Thanks lovie.. thats right.. as soon as you want to do something.. people want to scare you into not doing it.. everything has risks.. thats life... i might go to the city and catch a fatal disease.. woopdeedooda.

Yeah vahid, but you wouldn't want to intentionally screw up your life for lighter skin..
If you knew the city had a fatal disease.. why would u even go there?

My thing is, if your going to die or fall ill, make it be from something you had NO CONTROL OF! I realize how much people it hurts when you hurt yourself with something you could have prevented..

I thought you said you liked to experiment with your skin.. but u didn't want to permanently change it. But MONO permanently does that.. I don't understand why you'd want to use it if that's the case..

Vahid

Dec 6, 2007, 04:24 AM

Yeah vahid, but you wouldn't want to intentionally screw up your life for lighter skin..
If you knew the city had a fatal disease..why would u even go there?

My thing is, if your going to die or fall ill, make it be from something you had NO CONTROL OF! I realize how much people it hurts when you hurt yourself with something you could have prevented..

I thought you said you liked to experiment with your skin..but u didn't want to permenantly change it. But MONO permenantly does that..? I don't understand why you'd wnat to use it if that's the case..?

I do want to permanently lighten my skin. It's just that everyone else has the opinion I shouldn't change it. I just want a few shades lighter so it looks like I'm white but with a natural tan. Instead of looking like I am from abroad sort of thing.

Hamid28

Dec 6, 2007, 05:48 AM

Some more fact's :

Contraindications
Benoquin Cream 20% contains a potent depigmenting agent and is not a cosmetic skin bleach. Use of Benoquin Cream 20% is contraindicated in any conditions other than disseminated vitiligo. Benoquin Cream 20% frequently produces irreversible depigmentation, and it must not be used as a substitute for hydroquinone.

Benoquin Cream 20% is also contraindicated in individuals with a history of sensitivity or allergic reactions to this product, or any of its ingredients.

Warnings
Benoquin Cream 20% is a potent depigmenting agent, not a mild cosmetic bleach. Do not use except for final depigmentation in extensive vitiligo.

Keep this, and all medications out of the reach of children. In case of accidental ingestion, call a physician or a Poison Control Center immediately.
Monobenzone

Definition: A synthetic agent that causes permanent skin bleaching. It is used only in severe cases of vitiligo to remove residual areas of normal pigmentation. May cause allergic skin reactions.

Arch Dermatol -- Abstract: Dermatitis produced by applications of monobenzone in patients with active vitiligo, September 1985, Nordlund et al. 121 (9): 1141 (http://archderm.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/121/9/1141)

Hamid28

Dec 6, 2007, 07:28 AM

yeah i'm still here is there a problem with that? and second i'm no seller i never promoted a company just telling how i'm doing with monobenzone .
futhermore it looks like to me you may be one of tjose racist chumps that is scared if a certain griup of people ger a hold to mono that WHITE PRIVILEGE STATUS WILL BE AMBOLISHED .
then you could be one of those that monobenzone did'nt work for and now you hate on anybody that wants to use it. and those that give advice.

And as lonfg as someone wants to know about the use of monobenzone i will give my advice and that's that. and i would advice people to be weary of people like this.

Hahah just as I thought your stupid and ignorant... me a racist hahah your funny I'm arab... never heard anything so funny.But anyway this is a forum for skincare so I'll keep it at that... grow up child don't start with the name calling.Do your thing I'll do mine you say your Mono is good, I know for a fact your Mono is BAD... and I will be here as well telling every one who is asking, so life with it... why don't you answer the questions that are ask to you on the other topic.You give the same stupid ,ignorant reactions that you do know... DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.I've check your other comments and your contradicting yourself all the time.What advice can you give if you don't even know what your blabbing about.I dare you let talk about Monobenzone than, like adults you can't even do that and I'm not the only one that has noticed that.

Yes be very weary of me cause I'll be looking out for fake people like you on this board... It's your right to talk about Mono just as it's mine to disagree... don't like that tof luck than.. and don't say things you have no idea about... I've lighten up my skin color for about 4 t0 5 shades and know what I'm talking about,I've shared a lot of info on this board and got a lot of tips here as well.Must of you saying they used Mono can't even prove it you hope other will go and used it... A lot of us thought about using the stuff but did our homework so I know what I'm talking about you stupid cow... do your thing and don't bother me anymore I'm trying to meet smart people on this forum so that does not include you...

lovie1

Dec 6, 2007, 07:54 AM

hahah just as I thought your stupid and ignorant...me a racist hahah your funny I'm arab ...never heard anything so funny.But anyway this is a forum for skincare so I'll keep it at that...grow up child don't start with the name calling.Do your thing I'll do mine you say your Mono is good, I know for a fact your Mono is BAD....and I will be here aswell telling every one who is asking, so life with it...why dont you answer the questions that are ask to you on the other topic.You give the same stupid ,ignorant reactions that you do know...DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.I've check your other comments and your contradicting yourself all the time.What advice can you give if you don't even know what your blabbing about.I dare you let talk about Monobenzone than, like adults you can't even do that and I'm not the only one that has noticed that.

Yes be very weary of me cause i'll be looking out for fake people like you on this board...It's your right to talk about Mono just as it's mine to disagree...don't like that tof luck than..and don't say things you have no idea about...I've lighten up my skin color for about 4 t0 5 shades and know what I'm talking about,I've shared a lot of info on this board and got a lot of tips here aswell.Must of you saying they used Mono can't even prove it you hope other will go and used it....A lot of us thought about using the stuff but did our homework so I know what I'm talking about you stupid cow......do your thing and don't bother me anymore I'm trying to meet smart people on this forum so that does not include you.....

You're problem was with me you terrorist. Get a life you came bashing me first so how about you stop wasting my time and sit on satan's where you belong. And as far as fake goes that would be you temporary color. Chump. Now do your homework and be a good little third world and shut the f up.

Furthermore just because you're arab don't mean you're Not racsit. How stupid of you to think other wise. So keep your rude comments to yourself.

lovie1

Dec 6, 2007, 07:58 AM

It's obvious that this person came on this board to start confusio. So I'm going to simply ignore this childish IT. SO FOR THOSE WHO WANT COLOR CHANGE THAT'S PERMANENT MONOBENZONE IS THE BEST I USED. And if anyone wants to know anything otherwise you can pm me that's fine too and just don't say what source to get mono from as for reasons we all know. If you want to learn how tomix your own compound I'm willling to share that info too.

Hamid28

Dec 6, 2007, 08:08 AM

You're problem was with me you terrorist. get a life you came bashing me first so how about you stop wasting my time and sit on satan's where you belong. and as far as fake goes that would be you temporary color. chump. now do your homework and be a good little third world and shut the f up.

futhermore just because you're arab don't mean you're Not racsit. How stupid of you to think other wise. so keep your rude comments to yourself.

I rest my case... your mad cause I proven you're a fake... What can't you communicate normally quess not... I'm a terrorist and a racist hahaha anymore is that all you got, hate me color you say at least I still have one, can you say the same Anyway don't be mad cause I unmasks you as the faker that you are, you suppose to be a "chemist" so show some class hahaha enough prove for me... Anyway I'm bored of you now... got some PM to answer from the normal people on this forum... about skinlighting remember.

lovie1

Dec 6, 2007, 08:15 AM

Is their any one on here that has used monobenzone 6mos. Or more? If so share your experience

Vahid

Dec 6, 2007, 09:21 AM

I rest my case.....your mad cause I proven your a fake...What can't you communicate normally quess not...I'm a terrorist and a racist hahaha anymore is that all you got, hate me color you say at least i still have one, can you say the same Anyway don't be mad cause I unmasks you as the faker that you are, you suppose to be a "chemist" so show some class hahaha enough prove for me.....Anyway I'm bored of you now.....got some PM to answer from the normal people on this forum.....about skinlighting remember.

I don't think Lovie1 would come on here and lie about her experience. I believe her, and I believe her transition to lighter skin is gradual. Hamid you are confusing people and most other treatments just don't work. I was on accutane for 6 months and apparently that has worst side effects than Mono. But it was nothing... Mono isn't that bad. Stop scaring people into achieving their goal. You haven't personally used Mono and you don't know anyone who has (personally) so as far as I'm concerned your advice is as much rubbish as the crap that leaves your mouth. Hamid.. go fix your grammar before you come on this board abusing helpful people. Good Bye!

lovie1

Dec 6, 2007, 09:47 AM

Vahid,

Check your pm I sent you the recipe.

beau_619

Dec 6, 2007, 10:25 AM

Wow, I didn't mean to start a war in here... I just wanted to know the facts... I've read many articles on monobenzone and I have found, like most of you, that it is being distributed as a topical cream for people with vitiligo.

Hamid and Lovie, you both have valid opinions on the matter to me as you both are viewing monobenzone from different standpoints. Hamid, you clearly have done your research on MBH as a cosmetic lightening agent and Lovie, you clearly can speak from experience. What does bother me is that there are articles online that show pictures of what may happen if you use MBH for a long period. [A Caribbean girl had been using the cream to lighten her body and it badly disfigured her pigmentation] <----look it up on google--its there; this is not to say that everyone using it will inherit the same outcome but I would like to know the level of risk involved in using something like MBH (i.e. the percentage of people who have experienced abnormal depigmentation vs. the percentage w/ welcomed results).

There are risks and rewards to everything in life and I think it is up to each of us to balance them out for ourselves. Right now you two see each other as good and evil, I think we could all learn enough from both of you to make an intelligent decision on weather not to use MBH. So, that being said who's got their stats?

P.S. Ease up people, we all make mistakes. I'm an ivy grad and I spell terribly w/o spellcheck. Lol

lovie1

Dec 6, 2007, 10:29 AM

Wow, I didnt mean to start a war in here...I just wanted to know the facts...I've read many articles on monobenzone and I have found, like most of you, that it is being distributed as a topical cream for people with vitiligo.

Hamid and Lovie, you both have valid opinions on the matter to me as you both are viewing monobenzone from different standpoints. Hamid, you clearly have done your research on MBH as a cosmetic lightening agent and Lovie, you clearly can speak from experience. What does bother me is that there are articles online that show pictures of what may happen if you use MBH for a long period of time. [A carribean girl had been using the cream to lighten her body and it badly disfigured her pigmentation] <----look it up on google--its there; this is not to say that everyone using it will inherit the same outcome but I would like to know the level of risk involved in using something like MBH (i.e. the percentage of people who have experienced abnormal depigmentation vs. the percentage w/ welcomed results).

There are risks and rewards to everything in life and I think it is up to each of us to balance them out for ourselves. Right now you two see each other as good and evil, I think we could all learn enough from both of you to make an intelligent decision on weather not to use MBH. So, that being said who's got their stats?!

P.S. Ease up people, we all make mistakes. I'm an ivy grad and I spell terribly w/o spellcheck. lol

Thank you for your point of view as well it is all welcomed as I said before I'm giving my experience and I'm not here marketing or making people use monobenzone if a person ask me a question I'm willing to answer.:)

lovie1

Dec 6, 2007, 10:40 AM

THIENNA Skin Whitening Pill, Skin Whitening, Skin Bleaching FAQ (http://www.thienna.com/faq.html) Beau_619 maybe you'll like this product that is if you don't have one already and check out het pics she may be on to something

Hamid28

Dec 6, 2007, 10:44 AM

I'm leaving this group cause some people make me sick, check out this Lovie1 persons post also this freak has change his/her name a few times. I'm not attacking anywone but this person tought he or she couldt speak ruff to me> Check his post and see that I'm not the only one who had beef with this faker>

Monobenzone is safe but this Lovie1 person started a topic asking if anyone had bad experiences with mono.
Says to started about 1 year and two mounths also check his the date on his post called himself Whittenbright or something something in the past on this forum.
Claims that Mono doesn't give you spots are streams but on an other page he himselfs says to have spots " a large on on my back".

Anyway Mono can be and is ( in my eyes) bad, that's all I claimed but these ignorant people want to attack me.. and I don't go for that.Check out there comments and make your own conclusion.

Telling people to order from chinese manufacturers is wrong this is a medicine and not to mess with.You don't have to listen to me, but all of you who are new don't listen to this shallow people,,

The gay on is even stupider than I thought, willing to just try anything.My spelling might be a bit off (english in not native to me ) but my common sense is just fine.
For all of you whom I spoken with I will not be back to wasted my time with these people.(because I said Mono is bad I'm a racist and terrorist ) By all means don't listen to these clowns.Use good and safe products you'll get there, trust me I know.Don't take recepies for mixing your own cream from just anyone It's your skin your talking about.Those of you who still want to know about Mono seek pro. Information and not some fool claiming to be a chemist.

I'll be on PM for those that have my e-mail address, be careful of these shady punks... when it backfires they won't be back to tell you and you might disfigure your body for good... take care.