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smoothy
Jun 11, 2014, 10:28 AM
Judge Napolitano: The Penalty For Aiding and Abetting Terrorists is Ten Years To LifePosted on June 11, 2014 (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06/11/judge-napolitano-penalty-aiding-abetting-terrorists-ten-years-life/) by Chris Carrington (http://www.dcclothesline.com/author/chris-carrington/)
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Shepard Smith asked Judge Andrew Napolitano whether the Taliban prisoner exchange (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06/04/law-obama-violated-releasing-5-terrorists-gitmo-exchange-bowe-bergdahl/) was legal under the NDAA H.R. 1960 Statute.
The judge explained that the swap was illegal because taxpayer dollars were spent to remove these prisoners from Guantanamo Bay without giving Congress 30 days notice. However, Napolitano goes a step further by pointing out that Obama has provided material assistance (human assets) to the Taliban, which has been identified by Congress to be a non-state terrorist organization.
This is a crime punishable by imprisonment of 10 years to life, which covers all Americans–including the President.

The law of the land applies to every citizen, every person residing on U.S. soil. The President of this once great, and could be great again country, disagrees with that.
President-elect Barack Hussein Obama thinks he is above the law (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/01/30/obamas-im-king-2014-state-union-address/), he feels that his position makes it okay for him to over-ride the system, that he can do what he likes, when he likes with complete impunity.
Thanks to the cowardly inaction of those who could, if they chose to, FORCE Obama to tow the line, he continues to get away with committing acts that would see any other citizen in the country locked away for life.
He is aiding and abetting a terrorist group (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06/07/released-taliban-commander-promises-return-fight-americans/) that seeks to do harm to American citizens, and American interests, at home and on foreign soil.
As Neopolitano said regarding the Taliban prisoners released in exchange for Bowe Bergdahl:

“By releasing these guys into the theatre of war in the Middle East he has provided material assistance to a terrorist organization. Fact, the Taliban has been declared by the Congress and the President to be a non-state terrorist organization.
Fact, federal statute makes it a crime punishable by 10-years in jail, up to life in prison, for materially aiding a terrorist organization. Fact, the courts have ruled any assistance, knowingly and intentionally, provided to a terrorist organization by an American, makes that American liable for prosecution under this statute.”
Enough said.
Chris Carrington is a writer, researcher and lecturer with a background in science, technology and environmental studies. Chris is an editor for The Daily Sheeple (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/). Wake the flock up!

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NeedKarma
Jun 11, 2014, 10:30 AM
Stupid bovine excrement website - nothing but crap.

smoothy
Jun 11, 2014, 10:35 AM
No more than CBS, NBC, ABC, or NPR, MSNBC sets the bar for what is Bovine excrement.

paraclete
Jun 13, 2014, 08:57 PM
you don't have to look beyond AMHD for bovine, in fact any sort of, excrement, it's all here

tomder55
Jun 14, 2014, 08:14 AM
nice game against Chile yesterday .

paraclete
Jun 14, 2014, 03:58 PM
Yes they cheated apparently and the refing left something to be desired, however as an opener in the campaign there are positives

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-15/chile-defender-jara-cheated-says-cahill/5524508

tomder55
Jun 16, 2014, 05:03 PM
USA !!!!

paraclete
Jun 16, 2014, 05:38 PM
I know you don't think any other place exists, but we wish you luck in the world cup, you will need it

smoothy
Jun 16, 2014, 06:22 PM
Oh we know other places exist... but they don't matter , we like this one best.

paraclete
Jun 16, 2014, 07:05 PM
yes it's a matter of taste, it depends on which flavour of B/S you are used to

NeedKarma
Jun 17, 2014, 02:40 AM
we know other places exist... but they don't matter That does indeed sum it up nicely.

tomder55
Jun 17, 2014, 04:04 AM
you would be rooting for Canada if they didn't suck so much. They haven't qualified since 1986.

NeedKarma
Jun 17, 2014, 04:11 AM
Soccer/football isn't my thing. I do sports instead of watching them, except for F1.
But that's not what smoothy was saying as you know.

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 04:53 AM
We all know NK feels exactly the way I commented... most of their posts here reflect that sentiment.

NeedKarma
Jun 17, 2014, 05:21 AM
Feel what? That other countries don't matter? That absolutely not how I feel. I have friends from many countries and love learning about our differences. Glad to see my daughter growing up the same way.

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 07:09 AM
Funny that's how you act in your posts... EVERYTHING Canadian is absolutely perfect... and everyone else does everything wrong... at least to you. Particularly the United States.

NeedKarma
Jun 17, 2014, 07:12 AM
Ok, if that's how you feel.

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 07:15 AM
Nope... your incessant snarky comments say it all on their own... it has nothing to do with what I feel or not.

talaniman
Jun 17, 2014, 07:31 AM
That could be said for everyone here on this forum, partisan and loyal to their own while snarky to anyone else's view. Even good reasonable personable and COOL guys like me call names sometimes, and get the same in return.

Truth is when you search through the papers, blogs, and links, the issue no matter what, or where, is remarkably similar, and that's sort of eerie given everybody thinks they live in paradise and are so evolved that they have solutions to everybody else's problem. But I hardly expect any of you arrogant snobs to understand given none of you lives in the GREAT state of Texas, so you know nothing of what a true paradise looks like. :D

tomder55
Jun 17, 2014, 07:40 AM
lol ,I don't want to live there . But I wouldn't mind if NY adopted some of Texas' attitudes and governance.
Did you see that the emperor is going to give us another afternoon of 'Barack-lock ' during rush hour today so he can attend a LGBT Leadership Council fundraiser ?????? Really ???

Sh+t like that don't happen it Texas.

talaniman
Jun 17, 2014, 08:02 AM
Why did you build a city of that many people in the first place? Rush hour is a beetch though, president or not, but I tend to avoid those. Still you have to watch those sidewinders like Perry. And we do have crazy Cruz and his dad running around like idiots. But we put Bush in a gated community after he ran the Rangers in the ground and the country too.

Sorry America, we just wanted him out of Texas. Fair warning, Perry is next, but don't let the glasses fool ya! He's dumb as a box of rocks. OOPS!

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 08:09 AM
We want Obama sent back to Kenya... no place is safe as long as he's around.

talaniman
Jun 17, 2014, 08:30 AM
Keep trying!! Keep wanting!!

NeedKarma
Jun 17, 2014, 08:31 AM
We want Obama sent back to KenyaHe's not from Kenya, he's from Hawaii. That's common knowledge.

talaniman
Jun 17, 2014, 08:35 AM
Please NK, don't dash his hopes. Sometimes dreams are all we have. But buy him a calendar.

NeedKarma
Jun 17, 2014, 08:36 AM
He's doesn't even seem to realize he's on his second term. Hate clouds judgement.

tomder55
Jun 17, 2014, 08:52 AM
Why did you build a city of that many people in the first place? Rush hour is a beetch though, president or not, but I tend to avoid those. Still you have to watch those sidewinders like Perry. And we do have crazy Cruz and his dad running around like idiots. But we put Bush in a gated community after he ran the Rangers in the ground and the country too.

Sorry America, we just wanted him out of Texas. Fair warning, Perry is next, but don't let the glasses fool ya! He's dumb as a box of rocks. OOPS!

Cities like NYC breed progressive locusts who then migrate to places like Texas to consumer their abundance too.
I'll take Cruz and Perry and you can have Cuomo and Sandinista Bill.

talaniman
Jun 17, 2014, 08:56 AM
Sorry Tom, doesn't work that way. We already got rid of Perry, and him and Ted are on there way.

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 09:04 AM
Plenty of proof he was born in Kenya... and not Hawaii... took them a year to produce a birth certificate that was printed on forms that didn't exist for years after 1961, and had numbers that were not in a range used for years to come...

He's lied about absolutely everything his entire life... nobody has actually seen his college transcripts to prove he ever graduated... and he Columbia ID had Barrak Sowetto on it not Barrak Obama and he claimed Keyan ancestry to get into school... all of which has come back to haunt him.

Funny how not even Snowden was able to get copies of those transcrips but he did for about everything else apparently.

tomder55
Jun 17, 2014, 09:09 AM
He's not from Kenya, he's from Hawaii. That's common knowledge.
Correct .He was born in Hawaii where his mother Ann Dunham , and father Frank Marshall Davis lived .

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 09:10 AM
British Intelligence Advisor: CIA Conducted DNA Test on Obama – Found No Match to Alleged Grandparents

Posted on March 2, 2014 (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/03/02/british-intelligence-advisor-cia-conducted-dna-test-obama-found-match-alleged-grandparents/) by Tim Brown (http://www.dcclothesline.com/author/tim-brown/)
http://www.dcclothesline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Obama-Closeup-2_thumb1.png (http://www.dcclothesline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Obama-Closeup-2_thumb1.png) Image Courtesy of Breitbart.com. Obama's book publisher claimed in 1991 that he was born in Kenya. Barack Obama has since chalked this up to being an honest mistake.

British Intelligence Advisor Barrister Michael Shrimpton presented a report in which he indicated that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya in 1960 (http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/obama-eligibility-appealed-in-judge-roy-moores-court/), not 1961, as he has claimed.
According to Shrimpton, Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/02/27/british-intelligence-obama-born-kenya-cias-dna-test-shows-dunhams-grandparents/). Shrimpton says that sits on British Intelligence files, since at the time of Obama's birth, Kenya was considered a part of the British Commonwealth (http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/ukandcolonies.pdf).
Mr. Shrimpton also indicated that Obama's father was tied to a group known as the Mau Mau, and that he ran guns and money for them and the German Intelligence Network in East Africa.
According to Shrimpton, Obama's mother Stanley Ann Dunham, was not pregnant in 1961 (http://freedomoutpost.com/?p=18191), but instead gave birth to Barack Obama in 1960. He says that Obama's mother was one of many of Obama's mistresses.
“My understanding is that if a lady's giving birth in August, we would like to see her pregnant in July,” said Shrimpton. “It's been established that his (Obama's) alleged mother wasn't pregnant in July; his claimed birth on fourth August does seem to be coming under a certain degree of scrutiny.”
Perhaps this is why Obama can't seem to remember his birthday.
However, if the photo that Shrimpton refers to is this one (http://cdn.freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/BarbaraBush1940shewasababe.jpg), then this photo has been alleged to have actually been of Barbara Bush, not Stanley Ann Dunham. I have no way of checking his claim, since no photo is actually shown in the video.
Then Shrimpton dropped a bombshell.
“It's also nice to have a DNA relationship with your parents,” Shrimpton added. “The DNA test that was done in respect to Barack Obama's claimed grandparents, I understand the CIA (Central Intelligence Community) were unable to obtain a match.”
Shrimpton went on to say that the CIA performed a covert DNA testing on Obama during a fundraising dinner using a glass of water. Apparently, the CIA was able to grab a few glasses of water with both saliva and fingerprints to conduct their testing, and according to Shrimpton, the test came back that Barack Obama is not related to his alleged grandparents. Dreams of My Real Father (http://www.amazon.com/s/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&field-keywords=Dreams%20of%20My%20Real%20Father%20&linkCode=ur2&tag=freedomoutpos-20&url=search-alias%3Daps), anyone?
This would explain why Obama doesn't look anything like his family members.
Mr. Shrimpton also alludes to the fact that Rudy Giuliani's people bought him lunch because of what he knew and were “fascinated by his discoveries.” Giuliani was hoping to be the Republican candidate at the time. Apparently Hillary Clinton's people were just as interested in Shrimpton's findings.
Michael Shrimpton is a very credible source. According to his website (https://www.blogger.com/profile/06273152628321207508):

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 09:11 AM
Michael Shrimpton is a barrister, called to the Bar in London 1983 and is a specialist in National Security and Constitutional Law, Strategic Intelligence and Counter-Terrorism. He has wide ranging connections both in Western Intelligence agencies and amongst ex-Soviet Bloc agencies. He has also earned respect in the intelligence community for his analysis of previously unacknowledged post WWII covert operations against the West by organizations based in Washington, Munich, Paris and Brussels and which are continuing in post 9-11.
He is Adjunct Professor of Intelligence Studies, Department of National Security, Intelligence and Space Studies, American Military University, teaching intelligence subjects at Master's Degree level to inter alia serving intelligence officers.
He has represented US and Israeli intelligence officers in law and has briefed staffers on the Senate select Committee on Intelligence and the Joint Congressional inquiry into 9-11, also addressing panels on terrorism in Washington DC and Los Angeles.
His active assistance to Intelligence and Law Enforcement Agencies in the Global War on Terror has produced some notable success including the exposure of the Abu Graib “hood” photograph as a fake.
His work in strategic intelligence takes him on regular trips to the Pentagon and he also met with senior advisors to the President of the Russian Federation in Moscow in November 2005.
He participated in the Global Strategic Review conference in Geneva in 2005 and is a regular contributor at conferences such as Intelcon and the Intelligence Summit in Washington, DC in February 2006.

While the video is a couple of years old, many people have never seen it. This is not a mere reporter, but a British Intelligence advisor. Additionally, his claims tend to support evidence that we compiled from Kenyan Parliament records (http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/obama-eligibility-appealed-in-judge-roy-moores-court/) that indicate Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
Tim Brown is the Editor of Freedom Outpost (http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/03/british-intelligence-adviser-cia-conducted-dna-test-obama-found-match-alleged-grandparents/).

NeedKarma
Jun 17, 2014, 10:54 AM
Wow, how amazing that some little known right-wing fanatic is able to do what no one in the Republican party can do. Have you followed any of the links/sources on any of those pages? It goes round and round and never gets to any evidence.

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 12:16 PM
Someone who is a true believer in Obama would make those claims...

I wish I could say I at least less believe him some of the time... even if I didn't like him. But I simply can't. He's lied about absolutely everything his entire political career. I don't know of anything he was actually honest with everyone about without a boatload of lies and half-truths.

paraclete
Jun 17, 2014, 03:13 PM
It never stops does it?, the fellow was successful at the ballot box and still you want to discredit him. Why wasn't this "evidence" trotted out earlier?

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 03:17 PM
So they claim Clete... there is abundent proof there was massive voting fraud... more than enough to have turned a loss into a win, both times. But the Mainstream media wanted him and will stop at nothing to protect him as they stopped at nothing to hide everything bad about him from getting out to the public.

paraclete
Jun 17, 2014, 03:42 PM
it's a conspiracy a media led conspiracy, is that the best you can do after six years. Why don't you realise that the left was a little better organised than the right, if you had conpulsory voting you would be able to allege voting fraud and you might have a true reflection of the will of the electorate and please don't talk about voter fraud, remember Geoge Bush and the hanging shards debacle

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 03:54 PM
People voting in the same election from more than one state, dead people voting, felons who lost their right to vote, voting, illegals voting... all because most votors are not leglly required to present a legal ID at the polls. Like practically every other country on earth requires.

Yeah someones will alrl right.. but that's not the "will of the people" that's the Will of a certain element that think nothing of breaking the law over and over to force their will upon others.

talaniman
Jun 17, 2014, 05:03 PM
People voting in the same election from more than one state, dead people voting, felons who lost their right to vote, voting, illegals voting...

Yeah that was Obama's margin of victory all right. 5 million.

paraclete
Jun 17, 2014, 05:03 PM
I don't have to present an ID when I go to vote, I have to identify myself against an electoral roll. ID might solve some of your problems but there is a bigger problem and it is allowing people to avoid the greatest responsibility they have in a democracy because they are lazy. Thing is how do you vote if your name isn't on the roll, you just rock up to a polling place and say here I am, how ridiculous and if you vote more than once a very stiff penalty should discourage you from doing it again. here's an idea less talk and more GOYA

smoothy
Jun 17, 2014, 06:26 PM
Based on what was discovered for people registered in 2 or more states just from VA and NC alone... it translates into far more suspect votes than that. Since most of that 5 million where people voting two or more times and people who had no right to vote at all.

And the second one was a far smaller margin than that.

paraclete
Jun 17, 2014, 07:53 PM
and all of this avoids scrutiny and presecution...how?. The question is.. prove it

smoothy
Jun 18, 2014, 05:07 AM
We have... the lame stream media won't report it because they were responsible for much of the fraud... then you have their minions arguing that the places that do report on it aren't reliable... then you have certain elected officials that just chose to igore it because they have a vested interest in continuing the fraud because they benefit from it.

Look at the Department of Justice... headed up by a criminal and serial lawbreaker Eric Holder... Not to mention Obama who thinks he is above the law by deciding what laws will be ignored and writing he own without authority.

How does it happen? Would you put Known Mafia Godfathers in charge of the task force investigating Organized crime? THen take their word that the Mafia doesn't exist and is a figment of everyone's imagination?

paraclete
Jun 18, 2014, 05:10 AM
figment of everyone's imagination?


I get the idea there are a lot of figaments of someone's imagination

smoothy
Jun 18, 2014, 05:16 AM
If this sort of thing was happening at this level in YOUR government... I've certain you would be mighty upset about it...

It IS happening here... laws are being broken that are intended to protect whistleblowers... and the main stream media makes it their duty to cover it all up.

That's why you see the lefties spew the vitriol towards FOX news and ALL of the alternative media... because they were used to having a captive audience and there used to be nobody reporting on the things they didn't want made public... thats why the big basition of liberal propaganda like the New York Times and the Washington Post and many others are on the verge of bankruptcy. More and more people are learning how they have been manipulated by the media.

paraclete
Jun 18, 2014, 05:21 AM
We do get upset about we just had a rerun of the senate election in Western Australia because someone conveniently lost some votes before a recount. Resulted in the electoral commissioner in charge resigning, doesn't anyone over there resign when they stuff up.

As far as bankruptcy of the print media is concerned, they are going the way of the dinosaur courtesy of the internet

smoothy
Jun 18, 2014, 05:32 AM
Unfortunately... not enough people that get caught resign when they get caught with their hand in the Till, or the interns pants.

A few actually do resign... but the overwhelming majorty refuse to... because of ego, arrogance, greed, or whatever their personal motivation is.

paraclete
Jun 18, 2014, 06:53 AM
interesting system

smoothy
Jun 19, 2014, 08:21 AM
THis is the root of most of our problems... this is Obamas self image... and how many of us see him acting like.

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NeedKarma
Jun 19, 2014, 08:57 AM
paraclete:
You get the idea of how us outside of the U.S. view the right-wingers there based on the above.

smoothy
Jun 19, 2014, 09:08 AM
Clete... you see how certain people can believe the Stereotype of many Canadians being completely clueless based on the above.

NeedKarma
Jun 19, 2014, 09:16 AM
Canadians being completely clueless based on the aboveHow's that?

smoothy
Jun 19, 2014, 09:20 AM
How's that?

That most people outside the USA see it as well as most people INSIDE the USA. Just look how arrogant he acts when he walkes into the room...makes you want to run over and smack him upside his head.

Thank God for cable tv.....every time his concieted azz calls another photo op to bloviate.....there are plenty of other channels to watch....because we all know he's going to spew more lies.

NeedKarma
Jun 19, 2014, 09:22 AM
Canadians? Arrogant? You don't travel much do you? LOL.

talaniman
Jun 19, 2014, 09:26 AM
8 years of Hillary Clinton will probably push you over the edge.

smoothy
Jun 19, 2014, 09:27 AM
Not most of them... I wouldn't even say that... I said many of them.. and it was clueless , not arrogant I said. Even if those two many times go hand in hand... they don't have to.

smoothy
Jun 19, 2014, 09:30 AM
She would be hiding FROM the secret service long before then, the Secret Service peopel HATED her during Bills Terms.. Not to mention hiding from most of the American Public.

Like I've said before....agree with his policies or not...Bill wasn't an unlikeable man......HIllary on the other hand.....is a person thats very hard to tolerate being around even for short periods.

I could see how Monica Lewinski looked worth chasing to him....look at what he had to compare to.

NeedKarma
Jun 19, 2014, 09:31 AM
You totally edited your question after I replied to it... again!
Piss off.

smoothy
Jun 19, 2014, 09:35 AM
No I didn't... you misread it the first time through.

I've been to Canada.. and I know enough Canadians I wouldn't have thought much less said MOST. There are many dimwits in this country too...most are liberals too, like they are most places.

paraclete
Jun 19, 2014, 03:33 PM
That most people outside the USA see it as well as most people INSIDE the USA. Just look how arrogant he acts when he walkes into the room...makes you want to run over and smack him upside his head.

Thank God for cable tv.....every time his concieted azz calls another photo op to bloviate.....there are plenty of other channels to watch....because we all know he's going to spew more lies.

what on Earth are you talking about? you are a media driven society and the whole thing is an act, you don't like what you see on TV turn it off as to arrogance there is nothing as arrogant as an american outside america

smoothy
Jun 19, 2014, 04:59 PM
what on Earth are you talking about? you are a media driven society and the whole thing is an act, you don't like what you see on TV turn it off as to arrogance there is nothing as arrogant as an american outside america

Right... listen to yourself.. EVERYTHING you know about almost everything not in your own back yard you get from a biased media no different than most other people on the planet.

Have you spent much time outside your own country? Or someplace that has a lot of foreign tourists? I'm guessing you haven't... because you'd know... a LOT of foreign traveling tourists are arrogant... because most of them are... "oh look at me, I am special because I can afford to do this while you go about your boring lives" Not even thinking how many OTHER people can and do... usually far, far more often than they do.

paraclete
Jun 19, 2014, 05:28 PM
Right... listen to yourself.. EVERYTHING you know about almost everything not in your own back yard you get from a biased media no different than most other people on the planet.

Have you spent much time outside your own country? Or someplace that has a lot of foreign tourists? I'm guessing you haven't... because you'd know... a LOT of foreign traveling tourists are arrogant... because most of them are... "oh look at me, I am special because I can afford to do this while you go about your boring lives" Not even thinking how many OTHER people can and do... usually far, far more often than they do.

Yes I have spent a lot of time outside my own country in Europe and Asia as well as observing tourists here from time to time, but you have identified the problem there are people who think they are doing you a favour by blessing your country with their presence and like you really need their opinion. Tourists who come to a place that is different to their own have to recognise that there is a difference for a reason. If you just want to go to a place that looks the same and feels the same stay home

smoothy
Jun 19, 2014, 06:44 PM
Some of the most arrogant are those from the poorer countries... because the ones that managed to save enough to travel think they are so superior... since many of their fellow countrymen are lucky to own a pair of shoes... and have windows in their shack. I'm guessing a lot of them had been saving their entire lives to make that one trip... I guess I notice it a lot because it really isn't a big deal to me (after something like 27 trips back and forth... the excitement really is a distant memory)... so its hard to remember the excitement they must feel... but I have been around far too many of the uppity type. I used to think it was a result of the caste system... then I realized it goes well beyond that when I saw that among most other geographic and ethnic groups.

paraclete
Jun 19, 2014, 08:34 PM
It's just pride and this is reinforced in certain national and religious characteristics, "it's better where I come from" syndrome and I always say, well if it is better why did you leave? personally I like the place where I live to stay the way it is, it doesn't need the latest overseas influences, they will find their way here soon enough but here's the catch, someone thinks that tourism should be encouraged whereas I wonder what on the Earth the attraction of where I live is to a coach load of asian tourists, have they come to see our wide tree lined streets?, our neat houses? our well laid out cities? have they come to see the lack of traffic or a place devoid of large rivers? have they come to see buildings that are no older than two hundred years? do they expect to see mobs of kangaroo in the streets or even the paddocks? don't they have mountains? oceans?

talaniman
Jun 20, 2014, 06:43 AM
Tourism is good, running from regional problems is not so great. Tourist go home after vacation to a life, refugees don't have that luxury. Some immigrants forget where they came from after they have arrived and done better.

I suppose its human nature in many cases to forget your own struggles in the humble beginnings and feeling entitled and self righteous when you have arrived. Or is it a character flaw of humans to have no empathy, sympathy, or understanding of the desperation you have forgotten. Or the gratitude to have the opportunity to do better.

For sure we all need a place to run from our fears, and some of us found what others are looking for. Some think they are entitled to look down their noses at those who have not ARRIVED yet, simply because they remember others who look down at them.

Be grateful you have the choice to be sympathetic, or an A$$HOLE. A tourist, or a refugee.

paraclete
Jun 20, 2014, 03:45 PM
I am grateful to look out the window and see the fog and know it will lift to a bright day and to know I will have to deal with a minimum of, as you put it, a$$holes. I can be sympathetic for those who are disadvantaged for various reasons but we now have more refugees in the world than we have had in sixty years and all because of the actions of a few thousand religious nuts and I ask myself how is it that the 60 million haven't just risen up and overwhelmed these nuts and one word comes to mind fear. It is our own hands to stop this nonsense but nothing will change until those most affected take matters into their own hands

smoothy
Jun 20, 2014, 04:45 PM
If you aren't willing to fight for your own country, then well... you have earned the right to be looked down upon with disdain by others who would.

Israel has females fighting for their country... so can the others.

They don't have the moral right to break our laws because its "Incoinvienient" for them to get in line like so many others do every day.

NeedKarma
Jun 20, 2014, 04:56 PM
If you aren't willing to fight for your own country, then well... you have earned the right to be looked down upon with disdain by others who would.So by your logic, everyone who is not in the armed forces should "be looked down upon with disdain by others"? Is that it?

smoothy
Jun 20, 2014, 05:20 PM
So by your logic, everyone who is not in the armed forces should "be looked down upon with disdain by others"? Is that it?

You don't HAVE to be in the armed forces to fight for your country... particularly in these third world hell holes. In fact in a few of them... they are part of the problem.

paraclete
Jun 20, 2014, 05:56 PM
we have seen the expressions of people power over the past fifty years, when the people decide they have had enough, regimes fall, so why can't they take on a few radicals with the same ferocity handed out to them, there is only one way to deal with these radicals anniliation and the force to do it is not the military but the people, they know who they are

An I have long said Islam represents a fifth column in western countries and look now, western governments are acting to prevent the jihadists from returning. the lesson is, if you want to be a ratbag, don't expect to be welcomed home as a hero

smoothy
Jun 21, 2014, 07:56 AM
Here we have Obama saying on video... what conservatives have been saying all along... and the left has been arguing he's never said muchless intended.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YfRtbIQ1kTw

NeedKarma
Jun 21, 2014, 12:41 PM
An edited video that smoothy believes without doing any research whatsoever - I'm shocked!

Here's the full context

"But those ideals have also been tested, here in Europe and around the world. Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others and that individual identity must be defined by us versus them, or that national greatness must flow not by what people stand for, but what they are against."
Small minded people blindly believe what others tell them, it's always good to go to the source to verify.

paraclete
Jun 21, 2014, 03:29 PM
clearly there are people who handle the stress of office better than others thus suggesting there are the governed and the governors, throughout history there are exceptional individuals