Can you downsize the whip on the hot tub?

"The" hot tub? Which hot tub is that?

How about you start by telling us something about this project? Then maybe someone can help you.

220V 60 amp line (#6) to the 60 amp GFI disconnect. Can the whip to the tub be downsized at all? I know the ground is but what about the 8' whip?

No you may not downsize. 60 amps needs 6 awg Electrical Wire Sizes - What Size Electrical Wire Do I Need (http://electrical.about.com/od/wiringcircuitry/a/electwiresizes.htm) Try to answer Stanforty's questions.

Correct. If the disconnect had a 60A breaker then #6cu is the smallest wire you can use.
The tub may not require a 60A circuit though.

Tell us more about the tub and we can tell you if you have any other options.

Just wondering because I seea lot of 220v 50a double ovens with an attached whip and it will be #10 wire.

Whip on an appliance that is installed by the manufacturer is different than a whip that must be installed in the field. The whip on the appliance was present, tested and listed by UL as is.

The "whip" on a hot tub is installed in the field and is nothing more than a continuation of the branch circuit, and must be sized the same as the branch circuit.

Last call, please answer Stan's questions.

Whip on an appliance that is installed by the manufacturer is different than a whip that must be installed in the field. The whip on the appliance was present, tested and listed by UL as is.
The "whip" on a hot tub is installed in the field and is nothing more than a continuation of the branch circuit, and must be






sized the same as the branch circui

Last call, please answer Stan's questions.
I understand UL listed, but you did not answer the question in theroy. What do you mean by " answer Stans questions?" He needs more info? FOR REAL?

How is the hot tub labeled, what's its draw

How is the hot tub labeled, whats its draw

Thanks ballenberg. The jobs already done, I used #6. Don't know the draw, just specified 60 amps. I just though it was an easy question that could be easily explained... seems like if a double oven down sizes the whip because its tested and ul listed then they woiuld list it as the size of the whip. The whip is also just a continueation of the line. Stans not making since with his analogy.
Thanks anyway guys

Neither are you! Comparing an oven to a hot tub? How in the world are they similar? Because both are 120/240V loads? Sorry, that doesn't cut it.
It's only in your last post that you even told us the specs on the tub (that it calls for a 60A circuit). That is what I was asking. You just kept comparing it to an oven with giving us any details about this tub.

Sorry if our mind reading skills were a bit off today. I'll try and do better next time.

Sorry Stan. I did say 60 amps in a couple of post ago. OK, lets change gears. How about an oven. I am asking why an oven is rated at 50 amps and has a #10 whip?

I am asking why an oven is rated at 50 amps and has a #10 whip?Because an oven whip is not under the jurisdiction of the NEC. It is overseen by UL. As long UL testing considers it safe and adequate it gets a listing.

Thanks Stan, now I get it. Never thought about it that way. I those cases the oven must never pull more than 30 amps for a long period huh? Same theroy as a 20 amp appliance circuit and using a 15 amp duplex, it's rated at 15amps but by code it's OK.
Go figure...

[QUOTE=dcrigger;3387243]Thanks Stan, now I get it. Never thought about it that way. I those cases the oven must never pull more than 30 amps for a long period huh? Same theroy as a 20 amp appliance circuit and using a 15 amp duplex, it's rated at 15amps but by code it's OK.
Go figure...