Looks like the dog forum has a new "expert" (sarcasm). Can't wait to see how this plays out.

Party hat?

It's raining it's pouring!

It's raining it's pouring!

Trees will soon be soaring. ;(

The storms I can handle. The winds whistling through the power lines is another matter.


Alka, good luck! :)

Red, it's reading about you eating cake while watching biggest loser that reminds me why I like you. :)

Trees will soon be soaring. ;(


Why did I think it was "the old man is snoring"?

then I'd be doing something I love (editing)
Does she need anyone else to help? :D

Oh Synn I'm so excited for you! That sounds like a wonderful opportunity!

I was posting a reply and poof! Synn's post disappeared and ended up as mine. Can we recapture Synn's post somehow?

Synn's comment keeps going weird... first it said it was quoting me, but I didn't say it, and then now it's all jacked up...

I was posting a reply and poof! Synn's post disappeared and ended up as mine. Can we recapture Synn's post somehow?
Nope. It's lost now.

I tried to backtrack to find it. No luck. I'm getting weird emails from the site too, many as dups and triplicates.

I'm getting numerous emails for each response too :/

I'm just confused.

LOL... I was just saying that I got a great job opportunity paying way more and doing it from home, but that I didn't want to downplay anyone's bad day/week.

I don't know if I could recommend you now, WG. The way you edited my post wasn't very good :)

(just teasing!)

Well I'm ber excited for you sis! This is a great opportunity to make some money, do something you love, AND stay home with Boo!

LOL...I was just saying that I got a great job opportunity paying way more and doing it from home, but that I didn't want to downplay anyone's bad day/week.

I don't know if I could recommend you now, WG. The way you edited my post wasn't very good :)

(just teasing!)

Woo Hooo! That could only make a bad day/week seem brighter, in my book! Congrats to you!

LOL...I was just saying that I got a great job opportunity paying way more and doing it from home, but that I didn't want to downplay anyone's bad day/week.

I don't know if I could recommend you now, WG. The way you edited my post wasn't very good :)

(just teasing!)

I hope it works out. :)

I'm getting numerous emails for each response too :/

Make sure in your profile you have it set to: No Email notification.

Also unsubscribe from the thread and then when you subscribe again choose no email notification. Those actions should be under "tools" on Right Hand side of the thread.

Oh I like knowing I have a response, but it's that I get numerous for each one reply that's doing my nut in.

Cat--it's actual contract work. I'll be setting up an LLC, and working with a friend who has been VERY successful (think 6 digits) with this company for years. Normally, I'd be VERY cautious about work at home stuff (most of it IS scams), but this is through a good friend, and they're essentially creating the position for me.

I need to vent! So my really good friend J and her (jerk) boyfriend just bought a new duplex, so after work I said I would stop by. I bought them a gorgeous painting from a local artist--an oil painting-- and I bought their daughter a bunny and candies for Easter, also my friend gave me a hood range micro wave, it's like a $500 machine, I just bought a brand new one so I gave it to them. J said thank you, and her boyfriend just looked at the painting and threw it on the couch. Now I know buying art for people isn't always the best idea as house warming, but I happen to know J liked it. I asked where she was going to hang it, and her boyfriend says "in the bathroom". He didn't even say thank you. I specifically said the painting was for both of them, but he could care less. Didn't say thank you for the microwave or anything. And then I just sat down and he was lik e"ok J it's time to go, we need to go Easter shopping". Like why the heck invite someone over if you're just going to leave right away. But what really burns me, is that me and her had plans to have a girly night because he was going out of town, as soon as he heard I was coming over to spend the night, he said he wasn't going and totally ruined our plans. Grr. Okay vent over. At home--alone-- with a glass of wine.

Ohhh, I can't stand people like that! I'm sorry he ruined your night.

Thanks J. I'm still SMDH over hanging an oil painting in a bathroom. I love giving things, sending cards, all that jazz, I just hate it when they can't even say a simple thank you.

Smdh?

Semi-miffed despite a hangover?

Smacking my ? Head?

Bella, you know we suck at this sort of thing! :)

For my northern friends.

How Canada Got It's Name

Three early French trappers were stuck for the winter, warming their arses and drinking heavily.
One of'em piped up about this country needing a name.
Caine says, "I think it should start with a C, eh?
Neville says, "It should have a N, eh?
Darell says, And it should have a, D, eh?

And there they had it, C A N A D A... What'aya think, eh?

I just singed my hair and the first two fingers of my left hand on the gas grill... Welcome to summer!

smdh?

Shaking my D*** head :)

For my northern friends.

How Canada Got It's Name

Three early French trappers were stuck for the winter, warming their arses and drinking heavily.
One of'em piped up about this country needing a name.
Caine says, "I think it should start with a C, eh?
Neville says, "It should have a N, eh?
Darell says, And it should have a, D, eh?

And there they had it, C A N A D A... What'aya think, eh?

It's cute, but, I have to point out that Canada isn't pronounced Cehnehdeh. ;)

For my northern friends.

How Canada Got It's Name

Three early French trappers were stuck for the winter, warming their arses and drinking heavily.
One of'em piped up about this country needing a name.
Caine says, "I think it should start with a C, eh?
Neville says, "It should have a N, eh?
Darell says, And it should have a, D, eh?

And there they had it, C A N A D A... What'aya think, eh?

LMAO, if you really want to make it authentic, change the names to larry, daryll and his udder brudder daryl ;) Larry Deryl and Deryl - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN6UAzYY8qg)

I just singed my hair and the first two fingers of my left hand on the gas grill.....Welcome to summer!

Well I just spent 5 minutes of my life looking for the "like" button before realizing where I was. Lol. You sound like me. Hubz-to-be calls me "grace" for this very reason.

I have just realized I am a huge walking door mat. Bella needs to make some serious changes in her life. Starting today. Last night got even worse. I'm in total disbelief. I am starting to wonder if it's me, or I am just a sucker with bad friends? Can all these people be this poopy, or do I expect too much from people. Anyway, off to the camp for some much needed rest and relaxation. Clear my head and think positively. I hope everyone has a happy Easter! Lots of Love!
- Bella xox

Well I just spent 5 minutes of my life looking for the "like" button before realizing where I was. Lol. You sound like me. Hubz-to-be calls me "grace" for this very reason.

The funny part was that Little J came out and asked "Mom, what smells like marshmallows!" I said... ME! And he just rolled his eyes.

Bella, sorry you are having such a hard time with these so-called friends of yours. Maybe it's time to just let them live their lives without you in it.

Oh GOD I need a rant too.

So much of mankind is such a disgrace. It makes me feel sick to know what some people do, how some people live, the views some people have. Maybe that makes me fascist. O.O

Oh GOD I need a rant too.

So much of mankind is such a disgrace. It makes me feel sick to know what some people do, how some people live, the views some people have. Maybe that makes me fascist. O.O

No, it makes you human. We all have our own peeves of the world around us and Im sure if most of us could have it our way we would change something about the world around us.

I seem to have so many pet peeves though. I'm so picky with everything! I have this idea of a perfect world haha.

Wait... am I in the peeves thread? Crap, I'm lost! ;)

Well, since I'm already here, I have to say that my peeve right now is that too many people have quit at my job. That's leaving us short staffed, which means that I'm working more hours. I was supposed to have a 3 day weekend this weekend, like last weekend, but they called and begged me to come in tomorrow. Since I asked to take a week off (which I'm entitled to) at the end of April, I decided to go in tomorrow, hoping that they'll then allow me the time I requested. I get two weeks paid vacation this year, and I plan on taking the last week of April and the last week of May off. I also plan on taking the summer off to spend time with the kids and with Bella when she's here visiting. :)

But still, I'm not all too happy about going in tomorrow. I guess I have to suck it up though. :(

Well, not to be a wet blanket, Alty, but okay, here I go. Be glad you're healthy and have a job. I lost mine when I had breast cancer two and a half years ago. I'm fine now and am reinventing myself, but I wish I could sit at my old desk again and catalog books.

Yeah, I know. I played the "you don't know how good you have it" card. Thank God or Mother Nature for your relative youth and good health.

I just want to take this time to thank Alka for coming back. I really appreciate your help in all of the women's health issues!

And redhed's back too -- YAY!

I just want to take this time to thank Alka for coming back. I really appreciate your help in all of the women's health issues!

Thanks, although I'm definitely nowhere near your level of expertise. Lol.

So around a month and half ago, my dog Fudge got into a bottle of bourbon and gave himself alcohol poisoning. We spent over $2k getting him out of a coma and back to normal (well sort of, I still think he lost some of the few brain cells he had) Well, just now, as I was sitting here at the computer reading posts with my screwdriver by my side (hey, it's Friday!) he jumped up on the desk and tried to steal it!! Darn dog just won't get off the juice. I need a doggy intervention. He's a good dog, well behaved, and apparently could do with some AA meetings...

reading posts with my screwdriver by my side ... he jumped up on the desk and tried to steal it!!!
Are you having problems with your computer or the printer? And how could your dog hold a screw driver and help undo any of the screws? ;)

Are you having problems with your computer or the printer? And how could your dog hold a screw driver and help undo any of the screws? ;)

Oh! Simple, I just tie a little toolbox around his neck! ;)

Oh! simple, i just tie a little toolbox around his neck! ;)
Does it look like a little barrel, like a keg maybe?

Does it look like a little barrel, like a keg maybe?
Why, Yes! How did you know?

Well, I'm back. I've been taken off work yet again. I go back Sunday night. I've had a relatively good day. My daughter and her boyfriend took me to see The Hunger Games. Very good movie. I recommend it even if you haven't read the book. I was actually able to relax during the movie and I noticed that my heart rate went down, the shaking stopped, and my headache went away. Hopefully the meds are starting to work.

I've been taken off work yet again.
Now what? The same situation or something new?

Now what? The same situation or something new?

Same thing WG. The blood pressure issues.

Well, I'm back. I've been taken off work yet again. I go back Sunday night. I've had a relatively good day. My daughter and her boyfriend took me to see The Hunger Games. Very good movie. I recommend it even if you haven't read the book. I was actually able to relax during the movie and I noticed that my heart rate went down, the shaking stopped, and my headache went away. Hopefully the meds are starting to work.

Maybe it's just your body saying slow down some? Sorry you had to be placed off work though. I just saw that movie on Wednesday. I loved it. But I'm a pretty big fan of the book series, too. Glad the headaches and whatnot are easing up.

Same thing WG. The blood pressure issues.
I'm a month ahead on a diuretic. I could send you some to give you something to do. :) (Is your bathroom close to your computer?)

Yup, bathroom is right behind me as we speak. What diuretic are you on? I was just taken off HCTZ.

Yup, bathroom is right behind me as we speak. What diuretic are you on? I was just taken off of HCTZ.
That's mine, the generic. (Sorry this took so long to post. I went to check the bottle and was held captive by apple pie and a cup of coffee.)

I went to check the bottle and was held captive by apple pie and a cup of coffee.)

Ugh... I HATE it when that happens... the band of evil brownies do it to me all the time.

J, you need to take this time off to get your health back on track. We worry about you! We need a healthy J! Don't make me go all mom on your arse! :)

WG, I am grateful to have a job and be able to work that job. Really I am. It's just that I had plans with the kids tomorrow, and the idea of going to work instead, well, it's depressing me a bit. But I'm only working a half shift, so it's not that bad. In fact, by the time I get back Rod and Jared will likely still be sleeping, so they won't even miss me. Syd will, but she'll be okay. Tomorrow night we color easter eggs! Sunday we're invited to what is always a marvelous feast at my Aunts house. I can't wait. Then it's a full work week next week, and hubby is on nights, which is always hard.

But right now work isn't the main issue. Rod finally took a look at the dishwasher. He's not sure what the problem is, and he's usually very good with plumbing issues, and appliance issues. He thinks it's the dishwasher itself, because he can't find any other issues. Here's the part that ticks me off. We just bought that dishwasher 3 years ago, and we bought the best one we could afford so that it would last. It cost us $1400! Now we have to get a new one? They just don't build things to last anymore. :(

Alka, for me it's the peabutter squares. Yes, I said peabutter. Hubby is allergic to peanut butter, so we buy peabutter, made with chickpeas. It looks and tastes exactly like peanut butter, without those nasty hubby killing nuts inside. :)

WG, I am grateful to have a job and be able to work that job. Really I am. It's just that I had plans with the kids tomorrow, and the idea of going to work instead, well, it's depressing me a bit.
But did I make you feel guilty for complaining? Even just a little bit? :)

J, you need to take this time off to get your health back on track. We worry about you! We need a healthy J! Don't make me go all mom on your arse! :)

WG, I am grateful to have a job and be able to work that job. Really I am. It's just that I had plans with the kids tomorrow, and the idea of going to work instead, well, it's depressing me a bit. But I'm only working a half shift, so it's not that bad. In fact, by the time I get back Rod and Jared will likely still be sleeping, so they won't even miss me. Syd will, but she'll be okay. Tomorrow night we color easter eggs! Sunday we're invited to what is always a marvelous feast at my Aunts house. I can't wait. Then it's a full work week next week, and hubby is on nights, which is always hard.

But right now work isn't the main issue. Rod finally took a look at the dishwasher. He's not sure what the problem is, and he's usually very good with plumbing issues, and appliance issues. He thinks it's the dishwasher itself, because he can't find any other issues. Here's the part that ticks me off. We just bought that dishwasher 3 years ago, and we bought the best one we could afford so that it would last. It cost us $1400! Now we have to get a new one? They just don't build things to last anymore. :(

Alka, for me it's the peabutter squares. Yes, I said peabutter. Hubby is allergic to peanut butter, so we buy peabutter, made with chickpeas. It looks and tastes exactly like peanut butter, without those nasty hubby killing nuts inside. :)

Alka, for me it's the peabutter squares. Yes, I said peabutter. Hubby is allergic to peanut butter, so we buy peabutter, made with chickpeas. It looks and tastes exactly like peanut butter, without those nasty hubby killing nuts inside. :)

A good majority of my diet is Mediterranean, so Chickpeas and their byproducts are very familiar to me. I'm a hummus pita every day sort of gal. I have a lactose intolerance too, so I eat a lot of soy products and lactaid with some almond milk on the side :)

J, you need to take this time off to get your health back on track. We worry about you! We need a healthy J! Don't make me go all mom on your arse! :)

Don't you worry darlin' I've taken the entire week off. My manager called me this morning and put me off tonight and tomorrow night. I will have to go back in on Sunday night though as I can't afford to take any more time off. Hopefully by then I'll have this all worked out.

Apple pie and coffee WG? For me it would have to be beef jerky and beer. But lo and behold, there's too much sodium in them, so I can't have that either.

Alty, I'm sorry about the dishwasher issue. You didn't happen to buy an extended warranty did you?

We got a new dishwasher. Leons was having a sale, so we got a pretty good brand name dishwasher for $250 brand new. Now here's hoping that the leak was because of the dishwasher, and not some other issue. Sigh.

I'm keeping my eyes on the washer and dryer. I'm sure they're the next to go. After all, in the last year we've lost 2 stoves, a fridge, the dishwasher. The one stove was only a few months old. The fridge, well, it was 16 years old so that's understandable. The dishwasher was only 3 years old. The washer and dryer are 16 years old, almost 17, so I'm worried.

They just don't make them like they used to. :(

My dryer is 41 years old. My stove and refrigerator were purchased before you were born. I want new ones, but my husband keeps repairing them. My dishwasher is a dishcloth and my hands.

My dryer is 41 years old. My stove and refrigerator were purchased before you were born. I want new ones, but my husband keeps repairing them. My dishwasher is a dishcloth and my hands.

I wish mine could be repaired. WG, be happy with the ones you have. Trust me, you'll never find better ones. The new ones may be prettier, but they won't last.

My husband would repair them.

A friend just got a new stove and refrigerator and says the energy saving is amazing. Her electric bills are less than half of what they used to be.

My husband would repair them.

A friend just got a new stove and refrigerator and says the energy saving is amazing. Her electric bills are less than half of what they used to be.

That's true. They are a lot more energy efficient then the older models. But back in the day things were made to last. Of course that wasn't good for the appliance manufacturers. If a stove lasts for 41 years then people won't buy new stoves, so they had to build them to have a shorter lifespan.

It wouldn't be a big deal if they weren't so darn expensive, and if they didn't all break down at once. ;)

what a weekend. My littlest one has been throwing up since Friday morning... No other symptoms. Just randomly throws up and then runs off and plays and eats like normal. I limited his food at first, and then when he didn't throw up after several hours, let him eat real food, and then low and behold a few hours after that. *ralph*... sigh. Mommy wants a do-over.

Hope your boy feels better soon!

It's always sad being on the last day of vacation. I wish I would have cleaned on my first day instead of leaving it all for today.

Hope your boy feels better soon!

It's always sad being on the last day of vacation. I wish I would have cleaned on my first day instead of leaving it all for today.

Thanks AB, me too. Sorry your vacation is already through. I can't wait until I can take mine. Lol. Haven't had one in 4 years! Can you call the little birds and chipmunks and squirrels like they do in disney movies? ;) That works right?

Haha it totally does work! I have a little helper chipmunk here "helping" me, but spends more time saying "mom can you help me", and then I have to stop what I am doing to help her help me lol. Time for a movie break for her!

Hi to all the regulars that remember when I was around putting in my two cents worth. Hope to be around more soon.

God bless.

Yay!! He's back!

Hi to all the regulars that remember when I was around putting in my two cents worth. Hope to be around more soon.

God bless.

Where have you been hiding young man? We looked under every stone on AMHD and we couldn't find you! This better not be a drop in. You better be here to stay. :)

Hi to all the regulars that remember when I was around putting in my two cents worth. Hope to be around more soon.

God bless.

Where the heck have you been? Hope all is well with you and that we get to see you more often.

Hi to all the regulars that remember when I was around putting in my two cents worth. Hope to be around more soon.

God bless.

Can you tell that you have been missed? :)

It's good see even this much of you, but I hope you can find the time to be around more. :D

Syd's friend, that lives a few houses down from us, just came over with her babysitting certificate and offered to babysit Sydney the next time we go out.

A few issues with this. First, she's only a little over a year older than Syd (Syd is 9, will be 10 in August, and M just turned 11). Second, this child is the one child (that we all seemed to have growing up) that always comes up with a ridiculous idea that's either going to get Syd hurt, or in trouble. The last genius idea was making apple sauce (using the apples in the tree in front of her house) on the front step, using her dads tools. That didn't go over very well.

Second issue is the fact that Syd is much more mature than this child, and she's also a good head taller than her. I would find it too weird to hire a babysitter that's shorter than my child.

Also, we have Jared. We rarely go out, but when we do, Jared, who's almost 14, is more than capable of watching his sister for a few hours.

I don't know what to do about this. I don't want to squish this kids dreams, but I really don't think that allowing her to babysit would ever happen. Not even for 30 minutes.

Besides, a babysitter has to be in charge. This is Syd's friend. It would be more like a play date then a babysitting job.

So how do I let her down gently?

I would simply tell her that Jared is who would assume this role should you need a sitter.

Be honest with her. Tell her that you feel she and Syd are too close in age and Jared doesn't need a babysitter.

Or that you don't want a friendship to be ruined by turning 'girl's time' into babysitting time. I don't think M has thought through how her relationship with Syd and you would have to change.

Hi JMJ!

Thanks guys. They just came back to the house to beg me to let M babysit, and that's exactly what I told them. I sat them both down, asked M what she thinks a babysitter has to do. She said "take care of the kids, get them fed, to bed, and if something happens, call their parents or take care of them". So I asked "and how do you think Syd would feel being bossed around by someone that's her friend, but also babysitting her?" She understood that that would be a bad idea.

So I think that's settled. They went to 7 Eleven together to get a treat. I told M "While you're at 7 Eleven, since you're older, you're in charge. Not babysitting, not bossy, but you're older so you have to make sure Syd and you get there safe and come back safe. That made her feel pretty important. So I think I dodged the bullet. :)

Then strategize with her about potential babysitting opportunities. Could she be a mother's helper while the mom is nearby and this girl can practice with the child/children in another room, reading to them, playing with them?

Then strategize with her about potential babysitting opportunities.

Tehehehehehe :p

I love my son! I love my son! I love my son! I have to keep telling myself that, because right now I want to smack him silly! :(

He has a social studies project due tomorrow. He's known about it for over a week. He told us about it on Friday. He has to build a model reenacting the war of 1812. He has a picture to go by. So Saturday we went to buy supplies for this project. That night I told him to start working on it. He didn't. Sunday was Easter, and we were out all day, but that night I told him to work on his project, even sat with him to help, and he refused to work on it, promising me he'd get it done on Monday, which he had off. I worked Monday. I told him that I expected to see a start to this project when I got home, and that he's be finishing it Tuesday night. Tonight. Well guess what? He's just starting it now. Yup. That's right. He got nothing done.

So he asked me to help. Well at this point I have no choice. It's due tomorrow! It's not something that's going to be quick. So we sat together, I came up with a plan, I started my part of it, and he sat there doing nothing. NOTHING! I got the sky up, the hill, the water, and realized that I was doing his homework project. So I got up, told him that my part of the help was over, that he had a good base, and he should get to work on the rest of it.

I went upstairs to cool off, came back downstairs around 1 hour later to see how he's doing. He tore it all apart! He didn't like what I did, so he spent an hour tearing it apart. Now all the work I did is ruined, and he's back to having what amounts to nothing.

I'm so mad I could spit! He just asked me if I could help him finish it. I said no. It's time for him to sink or swim, but I'm done throwing the life preserver. He has to learn the hard way.

Just fyi, I have decided, and just told him, that until the school year is finished, no more xbox. He can watch TV after he does his homework and studies. If he misses school one more time and he's not on his death bed, then no TV either. I'm done! I can't be the nice mom anymore. I can't be fun mom. I have to be the , and it's killing me, but he's giving me no choice! I either get mean, or he's going to end up living on my couch all his life, his only skill being to play xbox 24/7!

I'm at the end of my rope. And of course Rod is at work, so I get to deal with this all on my own, once again. Not that it would be different if Rod were here. It's my job. Always has been. All on me.

I have to go cry now. :(

My son (also a J) played the same games with me, even with the sick-day excuses. I took away his Atari (yeah, back then). I had to be the disciplinarian. I finally came to the conclusion that he had to suffer the consequences of his actions (or non-actions).

Husband had to go to bed so he could get up for work in the morning. I didn't go to work until 1 p.m. so I could be up all hours of the night disciplining the kids. (Oh, and most of the time Husband wondered who those short people were who were walking around in the house.)

Today J is a responsible, successful employee in a good job. He does his work well and on time. I've decided that's all because of me. :)

That's super frustrating :( I feel for you Alty. E is already on the sick kick and she is only 4 and in daycare. I hope things get better. I know how much he hates having the xbox taken away. I hope this goes smoothly for you. But you are right, you need to do the crack down NOW, or it will be too late. Best of luck!

Right now he's sitting on the couch crying, mad at the world, but especially me. I had a good cry too. I hate this. I don't want him hating me, but I have no other choice. He either shapes up, or he'll be repeating grade 7. He's already a year older than the kids in his class because he repeated kindergarten. If he keeps this up he'll still be in junior high when he's 24, and his only skill will be "beating Halo on xbox".

I had to go calm down. At one point I really felt like getting a hammer and smashing that xbox into a million pieces. I rue the day I let Rod talk me into getting it. I knew it wouldn't end well. Now I have to break my sons heart, and he doesn't understand that I'm doing it for his own good. I know he will one day, but I'm not dealing with one day, I'm dealing with today. Today is hard. Tomorrow won't be easy either, and I get to do it all alone. For all intents and purposes I'm a single mom. At least that's how I feel.

Has anyone ever felt like just running away from home? I do! :(

Oh, Alty! I feel for you. I really do. I can also appreciate where you are coming from as my J is on the xbox as we speak and getting him to do homework is like pulling teeth. I take that back, pulling teeth would be more pleasant.

Yes, basically you are a single mom. My husband is a single dad as well.

I get so angry when my kids cry because I'm upset with them for not doing something they should have done in the first place.

Alty, should we chip in and get you a Hello Kitty shaped paddle?

He is old enough to know what needs to be done and to do it. Don't kick yourself or allow yourself to be guilt tripped by him. He knows you love him and he knows what buttons to push. Tell him to start putting that energy into his work.

Next project, he doesn't even get TV until it is finished. Faster he gets it done to your satisfaction, the faster he earns back a privilege.

Do something that you enjoy. Spend some time with Syd. Play with the bunnies. Ignore the tantrum.

Oh and don't let him forget his chores.

Thanks everyone. :)

We both had a good cry, then I gave him a hug, told him I love him, and that's why I'm being so hard on him.

He hugged me back, and then hit me with this gem "Mom, one of the kids at school said that when you're 16 you're allowed to decide if you want to go to school or not. Is that true?" Oi! I told him that he could decide when he becomes an adult. If he wants that choice when he's 16 he has to become emancipated, which means getting a job and living on his own. I also wished him luck finding a job that would pay enough to afford an apartment, when he doesn't even have a high school diploma. I also told him that if he did get a job at 16, and missed as much work as he does school, he'd be fired within a month. I ended it with "Jared, I don't make you go to school because I want you to suffer. I make you go to school because I want the best for you. I know how smart you are, and I know what you can achieve if you put your mind to it. So put your mind to it! If you gave school half the effort you do xbox, you could do anything and be anything you want!" He agreed.

I really think we should all put together a book on parenting. Not that fluff that's out there that doesn't help at all, but real parenting from real parents. I think we could do it. And I think that it should include the times in your life as a parent when you really wish you were an animal that eats it's young as soon as it's born. Because I doubt that there's one parent on the face of this Earth that hasn't felt that way at least once. ;)

I just read all my posts and all of yours to Jared. I think I saw a lightbulb flicker above his head. He thought the part about eating your young was a bit harsh, but my reply was "One day you'll have kids, and you'll understand". Boy I can't wait for that day. Going to have a good laugh the first time my grown son calls to tell me that his kid is driving him crazy. :)

I just read all my posts and all of yours to Jared. I think I saw a lightbulb flicker above his head. He thought the part about eating your young was a bit harsh, but my reply was "One day you'll have kids, and you'll understand". Boy I can't wait for that day. Going to have a good laugh the first time my grown son calls to tell me that his kid is driving him crazy. :)

You can wait. You will be happy to wait. :)

Does he have any major interests that might help encourage him to pay attention to his work and give him a reason for going to school? Such as liking HALO and wanting to design games like it. Or learning the mechanics of the real-life weapons and tactics/strategies?

Ugh... getting into game design is as hard as getting a job as an actor/actress. Only one of every thousand that really want it will get into a full time job doing it, and you've got to move to where the companies are and know someone to have a really good chance at it. Not saying it's impossible, but I'd want my kid to have a really huge passion for it, not just an interest, before I'd encourage it. Same as a sport, really.

Not trying to be discouraging, though I know it's coming across that way.

I wish I knew something encouraging to say here... but I'm on my first cup of coffee after only a few hours of sleep, and I'm just not there mentally yet.

BUT--Auntie Synn sends all of her love and her thoughts. I know Jared has the smarts and the tenacity to do anything he sets his mind to do, so I hope he buckles down and does it. I know homework at his age seems REALLY stupid and boring, but it's getting through that crap that will allow him to not spend his life in a career that's stupid and boring.

Is there any subject he's really fond of, that homework is done in that subject almost before coming home from school?

I really think we should all put together a book on parenting. Not that fluff that's out there that doesn't help at all, but real parenting from real parents. I think we could do it. And I think that it should include the times in your life as a parent when you really wish you were an animal that eats it's young as soon as it's born. Because I doubt that there's one parent on the face of this Earth that hasn't felt that way at least once. ;)

I have been working on a book for the better part of the year. I joke with my friends that the working title is "They don't sh*t rainbows and moonbeams: the Truth about parenting" I will probably never get it done, but it makes me laugh, so...

My son is 8 and he already thinks he is 16. I am known for being a bit more of a militant mom than a friend mom, but it works for my boys. I mean,I don't go all Tiger Mother or anything, but at the same time, I don't put up with crap. Right before Christmas break, C had an issue with school where for 3 continuous weeks he was acting up, deliberately not listening, egging on his classmates, etc. I was called at work NUMEROUS times.

I tried everything I could think of to get to the root of the issue. I talked with him, asked what was bothering him, asked if he was having issues with friends/teachers/bullies/mom or dad, etc. Asked why he felt the need to do these things, explained to him how I expected him to behave for any adult as he behaves for me. Explained how I know he can make smarter choices, and how I expect him to be his very best. He sad he was happy, and yet he still acted out (but only at school). Finally, when the issue moved into his after school care and they threatened to not let him return (meaning mom couldn't work) I had enough.

I told him he needed to straighten it up and that if he didn't he would have to change schools. I told him that if he didn't stop fooling around I wouldn't allow him to participate in his sports or his science club (which he LOVES). I explained that if he chooses to play at school, then he works at home. ESPECIALLY if I am called at work to come get him. Then he is on MY time. The last day before Christmas break, I had a note from the teacher with a list of issues. That Christmas break (2 weeks) I took away all electronics, toys, movies, etc. He could read and that was it. He spent half of his days scrubbing toilets, and mopping the kitchen floors, shampooing the carpets, etc. He received a video from Santa (probably our last year with this bit of magic) saying how he was on the naughty list so far, and he better get to working on earning his way to the nice list. (it was an awesome video with C's picture and his favorite color, and everything. VERY detailed) He had a good cry over that. Broke my heart, but I still felt he needed a wakeup call.

Then I called his father (we are divorced) and we made the toughest decision. When Christmas morning came, C opened his gifts, and then he had to place them all in a box until he could prove to us that he was responsible enough in school to be able to play at home. I haven't had an issue since, and he has earned every last present back. I'm tough, but it's out of love. Don't feel bad for teaching him important life lessons, before LIFE teaches him them the hard way. :)


My youngest was taken to the doc. Yesterday. He has something called gastroparesis, which I had never heard of. I've done my research. Has me on pins and needles. We have a week on a restricted diet, and if he doesn't improve, we may have to admit him to the hospital. :( He's only 4.

Ugh...getting into game design is as hard as getting a job as an actor/actress. Only one of every thousand that really want it will get into a full time job doing it, and you've got to move to where the companies are and know someone to have a really good chance at it. Not saying it's impossible, but I'd want my kid to have a really huge passion for it, not just an interest, before I'd encourage it. Same as a sport, really.


Yeah I went to school for animation at Purdue. Ended up switching to Graphic and web design. I graduated and I worked for 3 years in the industry until the economy tanked, and now I work in a field that has NOTHING to do with my degree. Could have done it if I moved to the west coast, but I wasn't interested in that.

A friend of mine just recently got a job at EA Sports in Montreal. I still can't believe it. Going to have beers with her next weekend and pick her brain just out of curiosity.

Alka, I hope your little one gets better without surgery. He's in my thoughts and prayers.

Syn, I was just throwing out ideas that might help him see the value in the work he is doing or encourage him to look at games/HALO in a different way.

Hello again,

Is there ANY way we can censor questions like this: "I been having jelly rubber like discharge with milky white as well."??

About lost my breakfast on that one...

excon

Hello again,

Is there ANY way we can censor questions like this: "I been having jelly rubber like discharge with milky white as well."???

Bout lost my breakfast on that one...

excon
Dear excon:

I saw that one. I might have responded to it. In fact, I think I did. Would you want the title edited or the post itself or both? I can tweak.

WG

Hello Wondergirl.

Just a little less revolting...

excon

I edited the title to "Could these be signs of pregnancy?" All the necessary info is in the post itself (DO NOT READ THE POST!! )

I hadn't responded to this one after all. This question or one like it had been asked on the MP3 board (of all places), so I may have been preoccupied with moving it rather than what it said. I will forthwith be more observant regarding stomach-turning titles. Thank you for your willingness to bring this matter to our attention. :)

WG

Hello again,

Is there ANY way we can censor questions like this: "I been having jelly rubber like discharge with milky white as well."???

Bout lost my breakfast on that one...

excon

Stay out of the women's health? :p

I edited the title to "Could these be signs of pregnancy?" All the necessary info is in the post itself (DO NOT READ THE POST!!!)

I hadn't responded to this one after all. This question or one like it had been asked on the MP3 board (of all places), so I may have been preoccupied with moving it rather than what it said. I will forthwith be more observant regarding stomach-turning titles. Thank you for your willingness to bring this matter to our attention. :)

WG

I still think you should be careful with over editing, someone might skip over ANOTHER "Am I pregnant" but click on something about strange discharge. Lots of women who haven't been pregnant before have had yeast infections or BV and can help with such things. Just a thought.

I still think ya'll should be careful with over editing, someone might skip over ANOTHER "Am I pregnant" but click on something about strange discharge. Lots of women who haven't been pregnant before have had yeast infections or BV and can help with such things. Just a thought.
Okay, okay. Good thought. Will tweak it again. It's sounding a lot like the ubiquitous "am I pregnant."

It's a fine line eh? Now just to find the happy medium.

It's a fine line eh? Now just to find the happy medium.

The happy medium can be found over on the paranormal threads. Eh ?

















<-- is running very very fast

Not the happy medium, but get past the happy men who are somewhat squeamish...

How about this -- "Could these discharges of blood and mucus be signs of pregnancy?"

The happy medium can be found over on the paranormal threads. eh ?

















<-- is running very very fast

I'm chasing just a bit faster than you're running. :)

And I'm eating jelly beans watching Alty chase Dad.

LOL! That sounds good WG.

Now you have two angry cannucks on yer bum Dad, well one German Cannuck and one Hinze 57!

Some people are so squeamish. I see blood and mucous then go eat lunch.

Some people are so squeamish. I see blood and mucous then go eat lunch.

I can handle blood and mucous, but it depends on where it's coming from. If it's mucous out of the nose (a kid sneezes and a big string of snot hangs out of his nose), I will puke. In fact, when we watch America funniest videos, and they show a kid that sneezes, I can't look. I'd rather watch someone being cut open then see that.

I'm a gagger.

I'm a gagger.



No comment ;)

I worked in Physical Therapy for two years after I left teaching. The floor nurses would give the patients laxatives in the evening, and first thing after breakfast we would bring them to the PT department for their morning exercises. Guess what we spent a lot of time doing before lunch...

Lol tsk tsk Dad...

I can stick my fingers in a dogs butt and express anal glands, I can stick my hand in an open incision in a cats stomach and pull out the pancreas, but show me (human) mucus or poo poo and I'm no good. There were times when I was weak changing Emily's diapers.

Lol tsk tsk Dad....

I can stick my fingers in a dogs butt and express anal glands, I can stick my hand in an open incision in a cats stomach and pull out the pancreas, but show me (human) mucus or poo poo and I'm no good. There were times when I was weak changing Emily's diapers.

Hey! I have to eat soon! Stop that!

No comment ;)

LMAO! Dad! I've never seen this side of you. It's intriguing. :)

The worst experience I've ever had, and it wasn't even me, it was me by association, was the dog poo baby diapers episode.

Let me explain.

Jared was a baby. He wore diapers. I would throw the dirty ones into a diaper pail, and then every day at the end of the day I'd put them in a big trash bag and take them outside.

Well, one of those days Rod decided to use the same trash bag, that already contained dirty diapers, and do some dog poo pickup in the backyard. He filled the bag 3/4 of the way, and it started raining. So he put the bag on the side of the house with the intention of finishing up the next day. Well it rained for a week, and by the time it stopped, Rod had forgotten about the bag.

A few months later (yes, months!) Rod was doing some yard work, walked by the bag that was on the side of the house, and thought "hmmm, what is that? I should throw it out".

He picked it up and caught a whiff. I was inside at the time. He came in, white as a sheet, walked right by me and went to the bathroom to puke.

Apparently the bag had changed color. The bottom half had turned black, but the top part was still the original green color. It was that bad.

He begged me to take it and put it in another garbage bag to put it on the curb. No way bud! Not for millions!

I never had to smell it, but I can imagine. Not much makes Rod sick, and his sense of smell sucks. If he got sick from it, I probably would have died.

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Hello Everyone,

It's been a while since I 've checked in and was not too surprised to find yet another new skin. This one seems OK but I haven't checked it out in any detail (not that it matters it is the people that make this site special and I have missed you all.)

Since I last posted I have moved three times, taken several long road trips and was seriously questioning my sanity. I could not rationalize the death of a pet being so profound.

After a week of locking myself in my apartment and crying like a little girl , I realized that since the day I got him we had been together 24 7 until the day I had to put him to sleep.
I loved that little dog more than I even realized.

But since I have decided to rejoin the insanity of everyday life I thought that this is the place to start and these are the people who will understand it helps to get it off your chest . And it has.

I will be checking in more as I get more time. I have a lot of loose ends to tie up . That seems to happen when you blow off responsibility for a few months.

It will be nice to be back.

Martin, welcome back. It's really good to see you. :)

The new skin is a compromise between Go and Light. It is working a lot better than Go ever did. This time they seem to be listening to us about making it more user friendly for most people. If you have any thoughts on it (especially after trying it out for a day or three), there is thread for feed-back.

If you need to share, you know we are here for you. :)

If you need a laugh, we're good at that too.;)

There's a little 10 year old on the boards, she's not being mean but handing out advice with all her years of experience! just a heads up if anyone she's her on the adult boards.. username- Balarasara

Hello Everyone,

It's been a while since I 've checked in and was not too surprised to find yet another new skin. This one seems ok but I haven't checked it out in any detail (not that it matters it is the people that make this site special and I have missed you all.)

Since I last posted I have moved three times, taken several long road trips and was seriously questioning my sanity. I could not rationalize the death of a pet being so profound.

After a week of locking myself in my apartment and crying like a little girl , I realized that since the day I got him we had been together 24 7 until the day I had to put him to sleep.
I loved that little dog more than I even realized.

But since I have decided to rejoin the insanity of everyday life I thought that this is the place to start and these are the people who will understand it helps to get it off your chest . And it has.

I will be checking in more as I get more time. I have a lot of loose ends to tie up . That seems to happen when you blow off responsibility for a few months.

It will be nice to be back.



Good to see your back and look forward to reading your posts. Im glad your getting things straightened out.

I want more Trailer Park Boys shows. Can one of you Canadians go tell Ricky, Julian and Bubbles to get back to work? I want Lucy on every show. Tell them that too.
Thank you. I'll be waiting.

Martin is back! Yay!

Martin, losing a pet isn't easy. Only those of us that have loved an animal, understand what it is to lose one. We're here if you need to talk. I hope you know that. (hugs)

Magprob. You always flit in, and then flit right back out. Bad boy! Stick around. We're tons of fun! Give us a try (that was not intended to be a sexual come on. Just fyi). ;)

Teething sucks.

Just sayin'

I can't wait until he hits the Terrible Twos. After that, it's time for Potty Training.

Teething sucks.

Just sayin'

LMAO! If you're still nursing when his teeth finally come in, that will suck a lot more, trust me.

Syd was almost 3 when I stopped nursing her. She was a biter! :(

I can't wait until he hits the Terrible Twos. After that, it's time for Potty Training.

If you believe in the terrible twos. I don't I believe parents allow it to happen.

If you believe in the terrible twos. I don't I believe parents allow it to happen.
It's a Separation and Individuation stage. They do it again at puberty.

I still believe it is all in the family dynamics. I've raised 4 children and never had these problems.

I am just crabby from lack of sleep. HD got pissy at me giving notice, and I have crappy hours the next 2 weeks... I got to bed after midnight last night, and was up at 4 to get ready to be to work by 6, and got up between 1 and 2 to feed Boo... who has been crabby and clingy since I got home.

So... it's more me than him

I'm sorry Sis. Isn't Boo sleeping through the night yet?

I still believe it is all in the family dynamics. I've raised 4 children and never had these problems.
It's not a problem; it's a stage. And yes, if your children go to school and to friends' homes and don't cling to you instead, they mastered this stage.

He was... but now he wakes up because his mouth hurts. It's either just feed him (and sleep a little later in the morning when I'm not working), or sit with him while he chews on a frozen wash cloth :(

Hubby tries to help, but just doesn't know what to do.

Please don't turn this analytical. I don't need counseling and I understand Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs as well as Erikson's Developmental Stages.

My two oldest clung to me, didn't have play dates nor did they go to school until kindergarten (no daycare and no preschool) and I never had these problems. I have good parenting skills. That is why we never experienced that "stage."

I never had these problems.

Excuse me... stages.

He was....but now he wakes up because his mouth hurts. It's either just feed him (and sleep a little later in the morning when I'm not working), or sit with him while he chews on a frozen wash cloth :(

Hubby tries to help, but just doesn't know what to do.

Have you tried the tylenol and motrin for his pain?

It's not Maslow or Erikson.

Synn, can you make a list for your husband? Would that help? Mine always did best with something written down, so at least he had half a chance of striking gold.

He just doesn't think that "just holding the baby" is necessarily good parenting. I agree with him to a point, but I see this as "comforting while in pain", not coddling. He's willing to get up with the baby to feed him if I have milk pumped, but will just let the baby fuss if he's not hungry or wet... Forgetting that I CANNOT sleep through it, if for no other reason than milk drawing down.

I give him tylenol, and that helps, but it still takes time to take effect---time that I'm not sleeping.

He conked now, so I'm going to bed before I pass out. Thanks for listening to me whine :)

It's not Maslow or Erikson.

You know what... I don't care. Personally, I'm tired of you analyzing me and everyone else here. This thread is for fun, it's not a freaking counseling session.

He conked now, so I'm going to bed before I pass out. Thanks for listening to me whine :)

Sweet dreams Sis... I love you.

Synn, this too shall pass. Get some sleep while boo is sleeping. Maybe forget giving boo meds, take them yourself. ;)

(hugs), and wish I could help.

Hope you get some sleep Synn,

Well I am off for a week, not because I want to be. Was told to come back in a week. Nothing trouble wise.

There is quite a series form of bug going around and they just want to nip it in the bud.

Anyway, My little guy is happy. He is almost done with his easter holiday and will be going back to school. At the same time he is happy that his PaPa will be spending more time at home.

It would take too much time for me to try to catch up but wanted to say hi and drop in and drop a line.

Hope you get some sleep Synn,

Well I am off for a week, not because I want to be. Was told to come back in a week. Nothing trouble wise.

There is quite a series form of bug going around and they just want to nip it in the bud.

Anyway, My little guy is happy. He is almost done with his easter holiday and will be going back to school. At the same time he is happy that his PaPa will be spending more time at home.

It would take too much time for me to try to catch up but wanted to say hi and drop in and drop a line.

Hey little bro! I can't believe the little guy is in school already! He's getting so big and handsome!

J9, yes he certainly is. Time goes by so fast. Wow. (;

OMG! Joe, he's in school? Wow! Wasn't he just learning to walk yesterday? Holy crap time flies by fast.

Glad you get to spend some time with him while he's on Easter break. Sometimes bad news is good news. A bit of time off isn't always a bad thing. :)

J9, yes he certainly is. Time goes by so fast. Wow. (;

Dude! I can remember times in voice chat just waiting for him to come. Remember why I call you little bro? You have the same name as my little bro and you sound just like him!

How is work going? Do you enjoy working in the medical field?

So true Alty, (;

Before I know it he will be married and having children of his own.

Okay well hopefully not that soon...

How are you ladies tonight?

I love working in the medical field. It is where I am meant to be. Defiantly challenging and different everyday. Can you believe been doing it for almost 3 years now.

How are you ladies tonight?

Drowning my sorrows tonight if the truth be told. Had a very bad night at work last night. Losing a baby never gets easier.

Not sure if I can do what you do J9.
At least where I work, majority of the people that pass away on us. Has lived a full life, although does not make a death any easier.

So sorry that you lost a baby... It defiantly hits you where the heart is. That is for sure.

I don't think I could do what you do Joe. I don't think I could work with the elderly. You are a hero to me to be able to do that kind of work.

Both are so very important (;

I couldn't do either. Death is never something I've been able to accept easily, young or old. Losing my parents was hard enough. Going to work and facing the chance of dealing with death every single day, it would either kill me, or make me insane. Wait... that explains a lot about... never mind. ;) KIDDING! ;)

You both do a very important job that makes a very big difference. It's not something just anyone can do. It takes a special kind of person. You should both be very proud. I know I'm glad that there are people like you out there. Without people like you, people like me would find it so much harder to lose the ones we love. If that makes any sense. It did in my head.

[QUOTE=Alty;3084567]Martin is back! Yay!

Martin, losing a pet isn't easy. Only those of us that have loved an animal, understand what it is to lose one. We're here if you need to talk. I hope you know that. (hugs)


Alty is back ! Yay ! You were missing the last while before I ran away if I remember correctly , and it was a pleasant surprise to see you have returned . (hugs back and hugs to Cat and Califdad for their kind words also)

I know the pain of love lost , family friends and pets, is as bad as pain gets.

Muttley was all three rolled into six pounds of pure love and devotion.
He took a lot of me with him, and I miss him.

Writing about him here helps...

I still can't talk about him without choking up.

Hey Martin!! So happy to see you back. Losing a pet is no different than losing a family member, as those of us who love animals consider them family.

We lost our basset hound a year and a half ago. My daughter and I still get choked up when we talk about her and her antics.

It's healthy to grieve them.

Going to say
Goodnight... Almost that time to hit the bed.

Maybe there will be enough snow to have a snow ball fight with,. man, the winters here are awesome. Mostly summer weather. When spring comes. We get a little bit of snow but then the very next day it is all gone. Lol

Nighty night everyone.

Snow? The kids spent the day in the pool today!

Martin, hugs back. :)

No loss is small. The loss of a human loved one is no greater than the loss of a fur baby, small, big, furred, scaled or feathered. Animals get into our hearts, they become family. Their lives are simply way too short. That's their only downfall.

I once watched a comedy act by George Carlin (sp?) and he mentioned dogs. He said "Life is a series of dogs". He went on to say that every dog became a part of your heart, even though you swore you'd never love another as much as the previous dog. You went into dog ownership knowing that you'd likely outlive this little 4 legged being, and you went into it thinking that you couldn't possibly love it enough that it would hurt when it died, and every time you got a dog, brought it home, you were proven wrong. You loved, and you were loved back 100 times more than you could ever imagine.

Each time you lose a dog you swear there won't be another that can ever take his/her place. You're right. There will never be another Muttley. We put Indy down not that long ago, our 16 year old lab cross. No dog will ever replace him, not that we'd even want a replacement. He was one of a kind, just like your Muttley, just like you.

You can always tell an animal person from a pet owner. A pet owner will lose an animal and say "I want the same breed, coloring, and personality, then it will be fine". An animal person knows that the animal they lost was an individual. An individual can't be replaced. It's like losing a son or daughter and saying "I'll just have another baby, it will be a girl, and that will replace the daughter we lost". It's not possible. No one can replace an individual.

You're an animal person. But, as an animal person, you will overcome this loss, you will accept that Muttley had a great life and was truly blessed to find you. Then one day, when you least expect it, another little four legged being will catch your eye and steal your heart. You'll never forget Muttley, but you will love again. It will be different, because the being you find will be different, but it will be no less that the love you have for Muttley, because life is a series of dogs, and if you're a dog lover, even though you know it hurts like hell, you can't help but fall in love again.

Let yourself grieve. Cry about it, mourn your loss, talk to us about it. Tell us stories and post pictures. It helps. It really does. Accept that Muttley lived a full life. It was too short for you, but for him it was long and filled with love. It's not enough for us humans, but it's more than enough to our dog people.

Hey martin, good to see you back, I'm sorry to hear mutley died, there's no easy route through grief I'm afraid.

I'm glad to see you.

Hey Martin! Welcome back my friend. So sorry hear about dear Mutley. I'm not sure if you were here, but my Maxie boy died as well, I can completely relate to your pain.

Glad to see you back :)

It's a bad dog week!

Martin came back and told us that Muttley has passed on. My dog Jasper is having issues that will likely cost us more money than we have and I'm not even sure it will help. Then, just seconds ago, I got a call from a good friend of mine. His sisters dog Fido (who we used to dogsit for months at a time, and really love) may have cancer. They're doing the surgery, but the vet wasn't very optimistic. On top of that, she has hip displasia. She's only slightly younger then our Jasper, and he's 10. The cost will be in the thousands. Just the biopsy alone will be over $2000. If she has cancer and they chose to treat it, they're looking at over $10,000 for treatment which isn't a guarantee. They're doing it. They are well off. Still, should anyone be expected to pay that sort of money when they're not even guaranteed that it will work? Remember, I'm in Canada. Health care for humans is free. I don't understand why animals should be any different.

I could really use a hug, and a solution to vet care that would make sense. A vet care program that would actually allow people to properly take care of their pets without dishing out thousands of dollars per trip, and that's just for a minor issue!

We all know the stats. Over 5 million dogs are euthanized every year in shelters because there aren't enough homes, and that's just in the US. Well, those that do give these dogs homes are kind caring souls, and most times they're not rich, and can't afford thousand dollar vet bills. But the truth is, when Jasper goes to the vet tomorrow, just to look at him (no x-rays, blood work, or diagnosis, but just to walk through the door) will cost us $150. If they want x-rays, there's another $300-$500. If they figure out the problem and decide to fix it, then we're looking at another couple of hundred dollars, and that's if it's nothing serious. Heaven forbid that he needs medication. This vet trip could cost upwards of $1000. I'm a good pet owner. Both my husband and I work. We can't afford to spend $1000 on a vet bill, but we'll find a way because we love our pets, we love Jasper.

But really, are dogs being euthanized because there are no homes for them, or are they being euthanized because we've made it impossible for anyone but the super rich to afford a pet?

Euthanizing a pet is the cheapest option when there's an issue, but many times it's a simple problem that can be treated. But the owner can't afford to spend thousands for that treatment, even though the treatment itself would cost the vet a few dollars.

Forget med school if you want to get rich. If you long to be a millionaire, become a vet. I'll start a thread about this because right now I'm really upset about it. We love our pets, but we can't afford the vet costs. Who can? Only the super rich. So why not just breed for those people? They're the only people that can actually afford to properly care for a pet, and frankly, they're the only people I'd never willingly give an animal to. How is that fair or right?

::clunk, off my soapbox::

::clunk, off my soapbox::Hello Alty;

I don't care what Cliff said, I just adore you..

excon

My goodness, $150 going in and no diagnostics. That is HIGH. Exam and X-rays at our clinic, about $170. If you were closer I'd give you directions. $1000 will get you an ACL repair where I work. And our surgeon is damn good.

Hello Alty;

I don't care what Cliff said, I just adore you..

excon

Exy, you just made me smile,when all I feel like doing is cry. Thank you! :)

I adore you too! Screw Cliff. Well, not unless I'm paid a lot of money, but that's for another thread. ;)

My goodness, $150 going in and no diagnostics. That is HIGH. Exam and X-rays at our clinic, about $170. If you were closer I'd give you directions. $1000 will get you an ACL repair where I work. And our surgeon is damn good.

I have to say, I think in Canada we get the short end of the stick when it comes to vet care. Vet care is expensive. Human care, when it comes to medical, doctors visits, even surgery, is free, covered by our healthcare system. But vet care is astronomical. I was shocked when other members that have rabbits told me that the cost to neuter their rabbit was less then $100. It cost me $300, and that was the cheapest rabbit vet I could find.

When we euthanized Indy the cheapest rate we found (and I really hate that we had to shop around) was $150. That was only the euthanasia. We had to make other arrangements to cremate him, and thank Dog that we have a family member in the business, otherwise it would have cost us around $500-$1000 to have Indy euthanized and cremated. I make around $1000 a month where I work. I have kids, a mortgage, car payments, and a lot of animals that I've rescued. They're all taken care of, but one expense like that could destroy everything we have. We simply can't afford it, and we do everything we can for our animals and our kids. But what has to give? I have no problem going hungry, but can I do that to my kids? No. I have no problem living in a tent, but I can't choose that for my family, and frankly, if I did make that choice, I couldn't keep the animals I've rescued either.

It's a crap shoot. I rescue animals so that they're not euthanized, because I love animals. But, I'm not rich. If one of them gets sick, really sick, all of the rest are put in jeopardy, not to mention my kids, my husband, and even me.

The entire system is wrong.

When I was younger I babysat for our family vet. She lived in a mansion (at least compared to our family home, and we weren't poor, we were middle class). The thing I found odd. She's a vet, to this day. She had no pets. Not one. Not even a goldfish. She charged astronomical prices to treat pets, but obviously didn't love animals enough to even have a fish in her own home. She bred poodles. All the poodles she bred were cared for by others. They never had any human interaction. For all intents and purposes she was a high end breeder, with show quality dogs, that never actually cared about the dogs she bred. She was a high end puppy mill IMO.

It left a lasting impression, and considering the costs that my vet today charges, and I have the best vet I can afford, my views haven't changed much. I've decided that most vets don't give a damn about animals. They're in it for the money. If they cared about the animals, they'd give up their fancy cars and houses, live a good life, well above my means, and actually help the animals and the owners that come to them, instead of charging them up the a$$ for treatments that cost dollars to them.

It's just left a bad taste in my mouth.

Right now I'm shaking because I know that Jasper needs to go to the vet, and it will cost us a bundle. We just went to money mart yesterday to pay the bills. Where is this money going to come from. How much is the vet going to charge this time? It could be thousands. We don't have it, but we'll find a way. But should it be that way? Should pet lovers, people that actually give a damn, have to sacrifice this much because they love their pets?

Should pet lovers, people that actually give a damn, have to sacrifice this much because they love their pets?
No they shouldn't even though prices here are comparably lower than that it happens at our clinic too. And it is sad. Many of us have taken a pet that was signed over to us because owners couldn't afford to treat. At least their pet got a life even if it wasn't with them, it was a better option for pet and owner alike.

No they shouldn't even though prices here are comparably lower than that it happens at our clinic too. And it is sad. Many of us have taken a pet that was signed over to us because owners couldn't afford to treat. At least their pet got a life even if it wasn't with them, it was a better option for pet and owner alike.

So true, and most of mypets, in fact, all but two (not including the fish), that I have, are rescues, or found on the street, or owner surrender (our bird Marty was from a guy that my hubby works with. Loved the bird, but found out his son is very allergic). We took her in because I grew up with birds, love birds, and frankly, she's a sweetie. Love her so much! But, if she got sick, very sick, I don't know what would happen. I'd do my best, but I'm no longer sure that my best is good enough.

Jasper is a rescue from the humane society. He was 4 months old when we adopted him and I know for a fact that his sisters, 4 other pups, were euthanized because they were deemed unadoptable. We got Jasper shortly (very shortly, we're talking hours) before he was scheduled to be euthanized). We only took Jasper (my husband was afraid to, because he was extremely messed up, malnourished, beaten, terrified of people) because I couldn't leave him there. He is now my baby. He's my dog in every single way, even though my daughter would disagree, and I'm not entirely sure she's wrong. Her and Jasper have a very special bond. Fact is, we turned his life around. Our beagle pup was from a registered breeder, and we only went that route because we specifically wanted a beagle and couldn't find one in a shelter near our home. He's a sweetie too, even though he lives up to his name a bit too much. His name is Chewy. :)

Three of the four bunnies I have are rescues. Two from the shelter, one found on the street by a neighbors friend that couldn't care for her, so we took her in. The one bunny that isn't a rescue was from a local pet store. I know better, but he was 4 weeks old (too young to be sold) and I couldn't leave him there. It's a weakness. Because of this weakness I'm no longer allowed to go to the pet stores. Heck, hubby has banned me from the shelter too, because I'd bring home every animal there.

We have the two fish bought at a pet store, but I have yet to see a fish at a shelter. ;)

So in short, we have 4 rabbits, 3 of them rescues. Two dogs, 1 of them a rescue, a bird that was an owner surrender (same as a rescue) and two fish (still free to a good home, I'll deliver, but until then, they're well cared for because they're animals, and I take care of my animals).

I've bitten off more than most people can chew, because I love all animals. I've saved these lives, but if there were to get very sick, could I save them again? Not without losing the very home that I brought them to, the very home that saved them to begin with.

Something has to give. Lower vet costs would be a start.

I'm really on a very high soap box tonight. Forgive me.

My sister loves animals and decided to NOT be a vet because of it. She spent a summer volunteering at a vet's office affiliated with the Humane Society in our small town. Can you guess what she did more often than anything else? Yup... she held the paw of an animal being euthanized more than she did ANYTHING else. She cried all the time that summer... and decided that she couldn't be a vet because people were so freaking irresponsible with animals that a vet kills more animals than she helps.

She ALSO said that she'd never be able to have her own animals if she were a vet. Dealing with the pain of animals every single day left her with nothing to give our family pets at the end of the day, and she said it wouldn't be fair to an animal to feel that way.

So... cut your vet a little slack, Alty. Maybe she cares TOO much.

And personally... I think that vet prices are kind of set to discourage people from casual pet ownership. I've noticed that people don't take care of things that don't cost much. And if you have a long-term vet that you see regularly, they can sometimes change their pricing for you when they know you are facing a family crisis with your pet, and not just a general wait until the last minute to treat it kind of neglect. At least, MY vets have been willing to do that for me in the past.

I see it as kind of the same thing as adoption---adoption is EXPENSIVE. It doesn't NEED to be as expensive as it is... but at the same time, a cheap adoption would lower the "value" of the child being adopted. It forces people to value their adopted children--whether those children have 2 feet, four feet, fur, scales or gills.

I realize your love your pets, and that you want to do the best by them, but medical care IS expensive---for people OR pets. You've got a cheaper system than we do for people, but frankly your vet costs seem to average about the same. You just SEE them as more expensive because your personal medical costs are so low. We JUST finished paying off the medical bills for Lan's birth and the problems he had the first 2 months. It bit into our savings so hugely that I'll have to go back to full time work by the time he's a year old, and I really don't want to. A serious problem with one of the cats would be devastating for us right now, because there's not much left in savings, and the prospects for a full time job that wouldn't require very expensive day care are pretty damned low.

I feel for you, Alty, I really do. But I know from friends who are vets that most don't make the fortune you think they do and that the reason they ARE vets is because they care about the welfare of animals. They can't pay out of pocket to save every animal, either, and sometimes the extra money you pay for your procedure is going to help pay for the free procedure given to a dying animal where the vet KNOWS the owners won't pay, but the vet can't in good conscience let the animal die or suffer when they have the means to help.

Sorry... I seem to be on a soapbox too. I just don't think it's as black and white as you make it.

PS... no offense was intended, nor do I think for a heartbeat that you don't care or that you're neglectful. I just think that most vets DO care, just like most doctors do.

Sorry if it didn't come out that way.

Synn, I do respect what you're saying, and I have to say that I have a great vet now. I really do. In fact, the vet that treats my rabbits (my vet clinic has around 20 different vets, all specializing in different areas) taught me most of what I know about rabbits. I adore her. She has rabbits of her own, and she loves animals.

The vet that euthanized Indy was phenomenal. But she still expected to be paid. Not saying she shouldn't, but I know very well how much the euthanasia drugs cost. Does anyone really deserve to be paid $130 for 15 minutes of service?

Having said that, it pains me to say this. I know my vets love animals, but, in the same token, if I called them tomorrow and told them that one of my animals was sick, needed help, they may put me on a payment plan, but they wouldn't reduce the cost just because they knows that I rescue animals and I'm actually a responsible pet owner. They'll charge me up the a$$ for procedures that I know for a fact only cost dollars, which I know they'll do tomorrow. They'll drive home in their $60,000 BMW's, and they won't give it a second thought. I get it. They paid a lot to go to vet school, and they have a career that demands respect and isn't for the weak of heart. But they gets paid very well to do it, and if you help with your animal, you will pay, one way or the other. Nothing is ever free.

If you can't afford to do even a payment plan, or can't find a vet willing to agree to a payment plan (and most vets won't) well, watch your pet die. Even euthanasia isn't free, no matter how much your pet is suffering. If you can't afford to humanely euthanize, then find someone with a gun and a bullet and hope that their aim is true and your pet won't suffer.

You have to remember that I volunteered at the humane society. I've held more paws while an animal was euthanized then most vets will see in a lifetime. I cried more tears for perfectly healthy animals that I couldn't save because I don't have the money, than I care to admit. If you really want to cry, hold the paw of a 4 month old puppy that's perfectly healthy and only being put to sleep because there simply aren't enough homes out there, and those that are willing to take him, can't because they can't afford vet care.

The fact is, Jasper is going to the vet tomorrow, because that's who I am. I take care of my pets. I can't afford it, but I'll find a way. He's my responsibility, and he will be cared for. That's the commitment I made when I adopted him. That's the commitment I've made to all my animals.

I do have to point out that there's a big difference between animals and humans. You mentioned adoption. It's not cheap. But I have to point out that I've never heard of a baby being put to sleep because they couldn't find it a home. I've never heard of a baby being denied medical care because the parents couldn't afford it. In the US 5 million dogs (just dogs and just in the US) are put to sleep every year. Not owner surrenders, and not sick dogs. Just dogs that can't find homes. How many babies are put to sleep because people can't afford adoption?

There are too many problems. The number one is backyard breeding and puppymills, which is the reason why there are too many dogs in shelters to begin with. But the second issue is that most people can't afford to get a dog. Not the basic care, food, shots, etc. But if their dog slips, puts out his shoulder, a very simple issue, it could cost thousands.

I don't know many people that can afford that. I know I can't.

Sorry. I'm seeing bubbles now. The soap on my soap box is getting foamy. ;)

There are WAY more parents waiting to adopt than there are children to adopt.

But... to go with that argument... how many children are abused and neglected and yes DIE because their parents can't afford to care for them? How many kids go to bed hungry because their parents "loved them too much" to choose adoption? And go back 120 years to no CPS, no foster care, no welfare and no single parents... how many kids died unloved, starving, and neglected in orphanages because people simply did not adopt?

Again, not trying to put anything you say down--I'm in the same sticky position right now of NOT being able to afford a pet emergency. And... I'm an owner who sobbed for weeks after putting down a cat with a treatable problem that I couldn't afford the treatment for. It sucks sloppy donkey balls.

But I still see vets as good people doing the best they can with what they have.

PS... no offense was intended, nor do I think for a heartbeat that you don't care or that you're neglectful. I just think that most vets DO care, just like most doctors do.

Sorry if it didn't come out that way.

No offense was taken at all Synn. None at all. (hugs).

I do see your point, and I don't disagree that many vets do care. But, I've seen many that don't. Many that are just in it for the money. I've seen many doctors that feel the same way, know some of them personally. They're in it for the science, the money, but not the actual animals or humans.

Like I posted, I babysat for our old family vet. She treated our family dog Silver for his entire 18 plus years, even after I knew who she really was. For around 5 of the 18 (almost 19) years that she treated Silver, he had a chronic ear infection. For the fist 4 and a half plus years of this infection we went to her for treatment. We spent around $4000 in drops, medications, vet visits. My mom finally had enough, contacted a holistic vet. He's also the vet we ended up going to when Silver had his back problem, an issue that could have left him paralyzed. But that's another story. The holistic vet cured Silver of his ear infection, one he'd had for almost 5 years, within a few months, and it cost us $20.

I never could get my head around a vet that hated animals. She couldn't even tolerate them in her own home. I babysat for her kids. I even asked her once why she didn't have any pets. I'll never forget her response. She didn't want animals in her home. She bred prize winning poodles, that she boarded, and only saw when she showed them or collected the money from their puppies or stud services. She didn't even have a goldfish!

I'm really not saying that all vets are like that. My current vet clinic has great vets, but they'll still charge me an arm and a leg to look after Jasper tomorrow. Also, they'll do every expensive test they can get away with even though I'd bet money that I already know what's wrong and what needs to be done. Still, they'll insist on x-rays, blood work, and more. How can I say no? I'm not a vet. My guess could be wrong.

They'll do it cheaper then most, but it will still cost more than we have, more than most people can afford for one pet. I have more than one. Heaven forbid one of the others should become ill anytime soon. But, if we look at it realistically, I saved them from death once already. If I can't afford to do it again, then I at least bought them a bit of time, right? Yes, now I'm being facetious. I should probably go to bed. I'm a bit too passionate about this, and I fear that it's coming off as mean. Not my intention at all.

Please forgive me.

(hugs)

Alty is going to bed now, after checking on Jasper sicky.

I have to say, I think in Canada we get the short end of the stick when it comes to vet care. Vet care is expensive. Human care, when it comes to medical, doctors visits, even surgery, is free, covered by our healthcare system. But vet care is astronomical. I was shocked when other members that have rabbits told me that the cost to neuter their rabbit was less then $100. It cost me $300, and that was the cheapest rabbit vet I could find.

When we euthanized Indy the cheapest rate we found (and I really hate that we had to shop around) was $150. That was only the euthanasia. We had to make other arrangements to cremate him, and thank Dog that we have a family member in the business, otherwise it would have cost us around $500-$1000 to have Indy euthanized and cremated. I make around $1000 a month where I work. I have kids, a mortgage, car payments, and a lot of animals that I've rescued. They're all taken care of, but one expense like that could destroy everything we have. We simply can't afford it, and we do everything we can for our animals and our kids. But what has to give? I have no problem going hungry, but can I do that to my kids? No. I have no problem living in a tent, but I can't choose that for my family, and frankly, if I did make that choice, I couldn't keep the animals I've rescued either.

It's a crap shoot. I rescue animals so that they're not euthanized, because I love animals. But, I'm not rich. If one of them gets sick, really sick, all of the rest are put in jeopardy, not to mention my kids, my husband, and even me.

The entire system is wrong.

When I was younger I babysat for our family vet. She lived in a mansion (at least compared to our family home, and we weren't poor, we were middle class). The thing I found odd. She's a vet, to this day. She had no pets. Not one. Not even a goldfish. She charged astronomical prices to treat pets, but obviously didn't love animals enough to even have a fish in her own home. She bred poodles. All the poodles she bred were cared for by others. They never had any human interaction. For all intents and purposes she was a high end breeder, with show quality dogs, that never actually cared about the dogs she bred. She was a high end puppy mill IMO.

It left a lasting impression, and considering the costs that my vet today charges, and I have the best vet I can afford, my views haven't changed much. I've decided that most vets don't give a damn about animals. They're in it for the money. If they cared about the animals, they'd give up their fancy cars and houses, live a good life, well above my means, and actually help the animals and the owners that come to them, instead of charging them up the a$$ for treatments that cost dollars to them.

It's just left a bad taste in my mouth.

Right now I'm shaking because I know that Jasper needs to go to the vet, and it will cost us a bundle. We just went to money mart yesterday to pay the bills. Where is this money going to come from. How much is the vet going to charge this time? It could be thousands. We don't have it, but we'll find a way. But should it be that way? Should pet lovers, people that actually give a damn, have to sacrifice this much because they love their pets?



Do they offer programs like this in Canada?

http://www.petinsurance.com/

Do they offer programs like this in Canada?

http://www.petinsurance.com/

Found it here. Maybe this is something for you? This one is for Canada.

http://www.petsecure.com/

Does anyone really deserve to be paid $130 for 15 minutes of service? Alty, it's not just 15 minutes of service. The vet has to pay their overhead as well. They have to pay their employees, the electric, gas, phone, etc. Many vets don't own the building they are in, but have to rent. Then there is malpractice insurance added on there as well. The vet has to come up with this money somehow so they factor in a figure for all of their services to be able to pay this overhead.

Wow I've missed a lot in the few days I've been gone. :( Sorry to all of you who lost a furbaby. It is always rough, but as Alty said, we can always find room in our hearts to love another one day.

I'm exhausted. Spent most of the weekend shooting a rehearsal, wedding and reception. Rehearsal was all of Saturday afternoon, and the wedding was from 2 until after midnight on Sunday! I had to call in a couple vacation hours to work yesterday morning. It was beautiful though, and I was happy to help a friend capture her day. Now I get to spend my evenings editing over 1200 pictures!

I am 6 months out from my own wedding, so the little time I had left on the weekend was devoted to paying deposits and talking to rental places. But I got a lot done. The downside is that I am so tired at work. I may fall asleep on my keyboard! LOL - I should just elope.

I know you are at your wits' end with this Alty, but really consider yourself lucky that you don't have to pay for human health care as well. I have health insurance. GOOD health insurance that I pay over $250 a month out of my paycheck for. It still costs me $20 for each doctor's visit whether it is an initial visit or a re-check. It costs me at least $100 for an ER visit. None of that includes prescriptions. I currently take 5 prescriptions a day. That's just me, no one else in the family included. Two of my prescriptions are over $40 per month, that's just two of them for me. And that IS covered by insurance.

Now, I have 3 dogs, a lizard and two turtles. One of my dogs has chronic ear infections that includes thrush in the ears and he is also allergic to fleas, which are in abundance in my area of the world. Your vet bills are comparative to mine. HOWEVER, your healthcare costs are null and void compared to mine.

I love you Alty, you know I do, but I don't think you understand how good you really have it. We are a one income family (my income) and I still have to pay my mortgage, insurance, car payments, taxes and utilities, etc. How in the world can I afford food if one of us gets sick. Remember I even had to take a week off work because I was sick.

Heck, Xander had another ear infection last month and I had to ask the OB/GYN that I work for to write a prescription for him so that I didn't have to take him to the vet. Luckily the medication he takes for his ear infections is the same one that I take if I get a UTI, but I couldn't afford a $100 vet visit for a $4 prescription. Now we are getting into the flea and tick season. I have to take all 3 dogs to the vet monthly to get weighed just so they can have their flea and tick meds.

I feel you girl, but I don't think you understand how lucky you really are.

I do understand what Alty is saying. I know of lots of people who love animals who don't get them because they can't afford vet care. I also know people who have money and get the pet to show off to friends and the pet is not walked played with etc. They consider the pet a decoration like a lamp or sofa.
I have always thought that to begin with spaying and neutering should be as cheap as possible. We need to stop all the animals dying in shelters. I do understand the vet has costs and needs to make a living but what is the balance? How do we do this so that animal lovers can have a pet?

J-9 I do understand and am thankful for our system of health care. I have asthma and my BPD which I am in therapy for. I hate to think how often I would not be able to get treatment or go into hospital for my asthma. I have had to be hospitalized on a few occasions for it as miine is not well controlled with meds at all. Hubby has also had a heart attack when he was in his late 30s. We both have to go to the doctors for regular checkups and meds. I honestly don't know how people do it with chronic conditions.
Then I think of the people who can't afford to get therapy for their mental health issues, treatment that can teach them how to cope and deal with life. To become a functioning member of society and pay taxes, volunteer and not be hospitalized over and over.
I just get scared thinking of that and then realize I am thankful for our system. It still sucks though when you have a dog who is ill and you don't know where the money will come from. I pray everyday that Owen will not need the two expensive surgeries on his legs. I would move heaven and earth for that dog but where does the money come from when it is just not there?

I have always thought that to begin with spaying and neutering should be as cheap as possible. We need to stop all the animals dieing in shelters. I do understand the vet has costs and needs to make a living but what is the balance? How do we do this so that animal lovers can have a pet?

Where I live, they over low cost spaying and neutering as well as vaccinations. It is offered through our local humane society in an effort to keep more pets off the streets. Around twice a year, they offer Spay/Neuter-a-thons (I know this sounds horrible) where you can get your pet fixed for under 75$ (safely and humanely by licensed vets) It is really helpful for lower income households. As I have 3 dogs, I am VERY thankful they offer services such as these. I am currently waiting for their next one to have my 6 month old puppy spayed.

But I feel Alty's pain as well... My middle dog cost us over 2k last month after getting into something he shouldn't have. I am thankful we had that money in savings for a trip we had planned, because we probably wouldn't have been able to afford the $800 they required up front before treating him.

J-9 is right though. I work in a government position, and my health insurance is wonderful, but it still costs me $200 a month for the insurance, and then $25 each visit, or $40 for urgent care (which my children need often as they can never have illnesses or accidents during normal business hours) and $100 for emergency care. This does not include any prescriptions. Sometimes I am lucky and can get a prescrip for $4 or $9 without my insurance through the grocer here though. But as I am allergic to penicillan and amoxicillan, I typically can't get the cheaper antibiotics for when I am sick. I had to have a series of tests and an endoscopy in December to help diagnose some stomach ulcers and I am still paying these bills. $100 copay for the scope, and then over $600 for the bills that followed. I also have to have cortisone injections in my knee every few weeks, this costs me $25 per visit. My son also has a medical condition with his eyes, which require constant changes in prescription lenses (which my insurance will cover only every 2 years) I am lucky and use a flex plan and most of the time can afford my medical expenses, but I know many people (Especially my SAHM friends) who really struggle.

I really think times are just super tough right now all around. I know that I have had to learn to cut corners in anyway I can. I clip coupons like crazy, and save as much as I can there. (yep, one of those crazy cuopon ladies jumping in trashcans for coupons) and we grow a lot of our own veggies. But because of this, I am able to feed my family of four for around $200 a month, and I still have some left to donate.

I have always thought that to begin with spaying and neutering should be as cheap as possible. We need to stop all the animals dieing in shelters. I do understand the vet has costs and needs to make a living but what is the balance? How do we do this so that animal lovers can have a pet?

I'm NOT trying to be mean here... just further a discussion... but really, that's kind of like saying that everyone who loves children should be able to have as many children as they want, regardless the cost of taking care of them. Therefore, I want society to pay for me to be the Octomom, okay?

That's not fair to anyone either.

Animal lovers can be around animals the same way that infertile couples can be around children: They can adopt as many as they can afford, they can volunteer to be around pets (humane society, shelters, etc) and they can foster pets for shelters. They can teach pets or go into a career that involves helping pets.

I ONLY had my fur-babies for 16 years of my relationship with my husband. I do understand it. But unfortunately there is a limit to how much society can bear the cost of people getting what they want.

I'd love to save all the animals suffering--just like I'd like to save the children out there suffering. Unfortunately, it takes people being responsible for their own actions to stop people from producing animals OR children that they cannot care for.

It's a sad situation all the way around.

I completely see everyone's point of view, I really do, and I do have to say that I am very thankful that we have the health care system we do in Canada. We are blessed.

I hope that none of you think that I'm harping on vets. I understand that they have costs, and they do deserve to make a living as well. I wasn't trying to say that they shouldn't charge so that they can't stay in business, and they did have to fork over the money for a college degree in veterinary medicine, which isn't cheap.

I do have to address this part, and Synn, I hope you understand where this is coming from.

When we decided to have kids both of us were working. In fact, back then, I made a lot more money than my husband. I was 27 when I got pregnant with Jared. We were financially secure, we had our own home, 2 cars, both paid for, and the help and support of our family. My parents only lived 5 minutes away from us, and they helped out a lot, not only physically, but financially. The one thing we really didn't give much thought was that I'd be out of work for 4 months after Jared was born. It was going to be a tough 4 months, but my parents agreed to help. Then, when I was 2 months pregnant, the company I worked for bought out another company. The staff of the new company was going to integrate with ours. As a result, half our people, and half their people, would have to be let go. I had told my manager that I was pregnant, she told the CEO, and when the cuts came, I was actually asked to the CEO's office, and he told me point blank that I would be one of the people to go, and the only reason was the fact that I was pregnant, and the timing of my pregnancy would make things very hard for them. I could have sued their arses, but they offered me a severance package, I stayed at my job until 2 weeks before I had Jared. So, when Jared was born I had 4 months mat leave (65% of my wage) and then for almost a year after that I had severance, full pay (and I made very good money then), full benefits, etc. After the severance I qualified for unemployment (65% of my wage) and Rod got promoted at his job, so we decided that I'd stay home again. I was asked to go back to my job, but I declined, and looked for part time work instead. I had just started working part time with a home builder, doing their books etc. I started in October, my mom found out she had cancer in November, my dad died in January. I took a month off when my dad died, but I stayed at the job, and then found out that my mom was terminal. They called me into the office, said that they were happy with my work, but they were going to do me a huge favor and let me go so that I could spend the last weeks my mom had with her.
Long story short (and boy do I have the gift for gab), we really couldn't afford to have a baby when we had Jared. We were in a better position when we had Syd, but still not ideal. In fact, I have to say, if Rod and I had waited until we could afford children, we probably still wouldn't have any.

But my main point is this. Children aren't euthanized if they can't find a home. If a teen gets pregnant, you can bet that there are people lined up waiting to take that baby as their own. It's not the same with dogs, but for some reason we make it almost impossible for the average income family to afford a pet.

That's why we have so many "This is wrong with my dog, and I can't afford a vet" threads. Most people don't have thousands of dollars saved up just in case their dog swallows a chicken bone.

You all know that I'm a huge advocate of only allowing breeders to breed. Stop the puppymills, the backyard breeding, have stricter laws for breeding your pets. If someone isn't a registered breeder, then they should have their pets spayed or neutered. That would literally eliminate the problem. But I also think that vets should offer payment plans for extremely costly surgeries. I'm not saying they shouldn't charge, but at least give pet owners a chance to save their pets lives. I know that the majority of pet owners would make the payments, and be so very grateful, but most vets won't even consider allowing a payment plan, not unless you've been with them for years.

I don't know one person personally that could afford a $2000 vet bill if something should come up tomorrow. I know I can't.

Synnen I am looking for a discussion. I feel if people discuss this maybe solutions can be thought up that can be implemented on a small scale and then spread. I hold out hope that we can solve problems by talking, disagreeing (respectfully), and brainstorming. What are your thoughts on how we can change things for the better for animals?

Synnen I am looking for a discussion. I feel if people discuss this maybe solutions can be thought up that can be implemented on a small scale and then spread. I hold out hope that we can solve problems by talking, disagreeing (respectfully), and brainstorming. What are your thoughts on how we can change things for the better for animals?

I see this as a discussion too, and a valid one.

There has to be a solution. I know the solution to the problem with over population of dogs, but unfortunately that solution hasn't really been implemented, despite many people doing their best to make those responsible see reason.

I hate to say it, but right now I'm really not that focused on all the animals in the world. I'm focused on one, and that's Jasper. I just want the best for him, and whatever I have to do to make that happen, it will happen.

I don't know if I mentioned it on this thread, but our appointment has been pushed off until Thursday. Our vet had a few emergencies, and since Jasper doesn't seem to be in pain, they pushed off his appointment until Thursday. So I have 2 more days to worry about this, and hope that the delay won't mean the end for him.

I just fear that I may lose him because of this. I know that losing him is inevitable, eventually, but I just can't face that right now, not at his age. But then again, he's not a young dog. He's 10, and that's old for a larger breed. But Indy was 16. I told Jasper that he has to at least live as long as Indy did.

I'm just worried that I may lose my Jasper, so soon after losing my Indy. Even Chewy seems worried. He's not himself either. He isn't bugging Jasper to play, he won't go for his walks because Jasper can't come along. He spends most of his time laying beside Jasper, licking his leg. Poor Jaspers leg looks like a hot mess fur wise, all thanks to Chewy's licking. But Jasper seems to appreciate it.

I really wish he could tell me how he feels, tell me if he's in pain (which I really don't think he is, otherwise I'd be at the emergency vet, which I called, and they also told me that he's not an emergency, and I should wait for my regular vet).

I just hope they're not wrong, that this isn't an emergency. I also hope that this won't break our bank (that seems cold hearted, but it's something I have to worry about. We're not rich). :(

Alty hugsss and if I had the money I so would give it to you so you would not have to worry. All I have is a shoulder, a ear and lots of good thoughts. I too am worried about your fur baby Japser. This sucks and there is no other way to put it... IT SUCKS

Alty hugsss and if I had the money I so would give it to you so you would not have to worry. All I have is a shoulder, a ear and lots of good thoughts. I too am worried about your fur baby Japser. This sucks and there is no other way to put it... IT SUCKS

Thank you so much Mogrann.

We'll figure out the money part. Truth told, it's the least of our worries. We'll make it work, even if we have to tighten the ship a bit. ;)

I'm more worried about Jasper, and that there may not be a solution. My worst fear is that this is something serious, something that no amount of money will be able to fix.

I shouldn't think that way. If my mom and dad were here they'd be saying "Don't burn that bridge until you cross it". But it's on my mind, and I can't help thinking about the worst case scenario.

I'm crossing my fingers that this is a simple fix, and Jasper will be back to his old chubby self in no time at all.

I'm really hoping this won't be a big deal. I'm even praying about this, and you all know how I am about God and praying. Sigh.

It's a bad dog week!

It is indeed a bad dog week. One of mine, Norman, has a growth on his backside that needs to be removed. He has a heart murmur so he'll need an ultrasound done first to see if he would even do well under anesthesia or not. The growth may be benign or it may be cancer. Will have to wait and see.

Hugs to those who have lost their beloved pets and those who are worried about the health of theirs. They really are family.

It is indeed a bad dog week. One of mine, Norman, has a growth on his backside that needs to be removed. He has a heart murmur so he'll need an ultrasound done first to see if he would even do well under anesthesia or not. The growth may be benign or it may be cancer. Will have to wait and see.

Hugs to those who have lost their beloved pets and those who are worried about the health of theirs. They really are family.

Doula, I'm so sorry. Now I feel bad that I've been going on and on about my problems. I should know better. I should know that many others are going through the same thing, or worse.

Hugs to you. I hope that Norman is okay, and that everything will work out just fine.

He's in my prayers.

Awww, don't feel bad. This is the place to share and you are understandably worried about Jasper.

Thanks for the prayers... :)

Everyone and their pets including the fishes are in my thoughts and prayers.

Anyone got a smile or a distraction? I think we could all use one or two.

Hugs for everyone.

Here's one Cat:

A sign of the times with screen names and user IDs.

One of the little girls in my class looked at me thoughtfully and asked, "When you become a teacher, do you have to make up a name?"

"Make up a name?"

"Yes, did you make up Mrs. W?"

"No, Giselle, I just used my regular name." :)

Everyone and their pets including the fishes are in my thoughts and prayers.

Anyone got a smile or a distraction? I think we could all use one or two.

Hugs for everyone.

Thinking. Thinking. Thinking of a distraction. Um...

I have a lame joke, will that help?

A blonde, wanting to earn some money, decided to hire herself out as a handyman-type and started canvassing a wealthy neighborhood. She went to the front door of the first house and asked the owner if he had any jobs for her to do.

"Well, you can paint my porch. How much will you charge?"
The blonde said, "How about 50 dollars?" The man agreed and told her that the paint and ladders that she might need were in the garage. The man's wife, inside the house, heard the conversation and said to her husband, "Does she realize that the porch goes all the way around the house?"
The man replied, "She should. She was standing on the porch."

A short time later, the blonde came to the door to collect her money.
"You're finished already?" he asked. "Yes," the blonde answered, "and I had paint left over, so I gave it two coats. "Impressed, the man reached in his pocket for the $50. "And by the way," the blonde added, "that's not a Porch (Porsche), it's a Ferrari."

I was just discussing too... it just got to be a busy day for me. Sorry for walking away.

I agree that it sucks, but I don't know that there IS a solution. I also don't know that it has ever really been affordable for the average family to have a non-working animal... If you go back even 100 years, the average family didn't have pets---only the rich did. The average family might have a dog or cat, but not solely for companionship. Cats moused and dogs helped with hunting and protection.

And we've come a long way in that 100 years. Unwanted children weren't euthanized then... just left to starve. We now can treat pets more effectively and more affordably--Think of how many affordable PREVENTIONS there are now! Rabies, distemper... these used to be death sentences for pets!

I'm typing one handed again and keep losing train of thought. But I think I covered some of my thoughts on it anyway

I sold something yesterday on Ebay for 36p. They charged me 21p for the fees.

So I ended up getting 15p.. . Stamps cost 60p ¬¬

Talking about dogs - I lost mine 2 weeks ago after weeks and weeks and well over $3,000. And do you know what I did when I had more animals than I could afford to "Vet?" I got a THIRD job typing papers for College students.

I look at things from another angle - I don't pay my Vet for the 10 minutes it takes to put a needle into a vein. I pay him because he's got X years of education and training AND he's going to put a needle into my dog's vein.

I see people with too many children all the time, living off the State, whining about their bills, in line with their food stamps in hand. Who told them to have another child? You can't afford 3 so 4 sounds like a better idea?

And while I'm on MY soapbox - I've lost dogs; I've buried a child, a parent, the grandparents who raised me, my husband. Grief is grief but it's NOT the same loss, not in my life. I can't equate human life and pet life. Sorry, but it's different.

So now everyone can throw stones at me.

I have an interview next Thursday... let's hope it goes as well as the last with one exception... being that I get this job...

Ooo, good luck hun! X

Alty.. I hope Jasper is better soon. I know how you feel about Jasper because I have two kitties that are my kids. I would be lost if something happened to one of them. They are a part of our family. I have a good Vet, when Shadow was hit by a car he kept her in intensive care for a week and I was traveling for business. He called me every hour the first day to let me know how she was doing. I was so worried and I was hundreds of miles away. He also let me make payments the rest of the year on the bill (it was huge).
I love my shadow and lucky and yes, it would be like losing a member of the family. I too have lost parents, a child and a husband. If I lost my kitty it would be equally as bad.

Been feeling today like I can't be arsed with this website any more. I'm sick of being patronised as I'm a "young'un" by a select few.

Been feeling today like I can't be arsed with this website any more. I'm sick of being patronised as I'm a "young'un" by a select few.
And I was fixin' to ask you for a blog essay.

I read the thread for a blog and didn't feel like I could anyway.

You would be terrific--and only 150-500 words!

Dani... how do you feel about all the recent EBAY or should I call it FEEBAY changes? Can't make any money on FEEBAY anymore... because you are working for pennies and they are getting dollars. The TSR is a joke and the DSR ratings are just not working out for anyone!

You know, I wouldn't have minded because I was getting a tenner for another item I was selling, but they haven't paid after 2 days, and doesn't look like they will be. GRGRSHDRT! Not the best of weeks, that's for sure.

The most ridiculous part of it is when I was trying to resolve it. I can now see why people complain about call centres in india. It seems they have a direct script to read from, and will repeat things they've already said. I'm not a spaz! I tried two people, who both had no clue. They said that I hadn't been fee-d, when I have the statement saying I had...

Dani,

Many Canadians feel the same way about eBay and are using more local services like Kijiji where you meet the seller usually for the exchange. I see in the UK you have a similar service in gumtree.com (http://www.gumtree.com/).

Dani... wait until paypal holds your funds for 21 days. We are powersellers and they held ours for 21 days for months because we shipped out 12 items to someone and he left bad DSR's for all 12 because we wouldn't ship them free.

Aye I keep an eye out for properties on gumtree. I'm not familiar with selling on it, so I'm a bit weary

Dani...wait until paypal holds your funds for 21 days. We are powersellers and they held ours for 21 days for months because we shipped out 12 items to someone and he left bad DSR's for all 12 because we wouldn't ship them free.

What Ebay eventually said, is that it was Paypal that had charged me. What? That's never happened before, and it was the same type of item and price I'd sold before..

Right Dani... And Ebay owns Paypal.

I'm not sure what to do about it. I even contacted Paypal and they haven't got back to me. It might only be 21p... But it's MY 21p!

From CNN NEWS:

July 8, 2002 8:00 AM PDT

eBay picks up PayPal for $1.5 billion

Good luck with that Dani . Once in a while you can find an Ebay representative to help but not often. I never get an answer from Paypal.

It is better if you go on Ebay and do the chat with customer service at least you can understand the language.

Aye I googled and saw that after I read your comment

That's what I did, the customer service live chat, and that was what failed. Repetitive "Let me check that"... "Ebay has not chargedd you for this item"... But I can prove you did! Grr. I emailed, so that I could show the image of the money being deducted, but no response yet again.

Rather creepy, I got a response from Ebay just as I sent that.

All they've said is that they haven't charged me, and even though Ebay are affiliated with Paypal, I need to contact a different customer services department...

Jeff Terrell


Current Director, Seller Engagement at eBay

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I do not have a phone number... did have at one time but can't find it anywhere.

Hi all. Sorry, I didn't really read back.

Jasper just got back from the vet. They took x-rays, did blood work, every test they could think of to find out what's going on. My guess was wrong, his shoulder/ arm is not dislocated. Actually, they have no idea what's going on, they only have guesses. They think that he may have strained his leg, and because he's an older dog, the strain caused his arthritis (which is news to me) to flair up even more. So they gave him a muscle relaxant and pain pills.

The bad news is that now he's not eating. In fact, he hasn't eaten in almost two days. We've tried everything, all his favorites, anything we could get into him. He won't even eat steak, or a weiner (his favs).

So they sent him home with pain meds (getting him to take one was really fun. In fact, I think that giving a cat meds would be easier), and now we're all hoping that the pains meds will make him comfortable enough that he'll get his appetite back.

He's much worse then he was when this all started, and the vet has absolutely no idea what's going on. She's basically going by trial and error. So we have to wait and see. But I don't know if Jasper has that kind of time.

Anyone have any ideas on how to get some food into him?

I have a very bad feeling that this may not end well. I'm sitting here crying right now. We just put Indy to sleep less then 5 months ago, now Jasper is deathly ill. I just want him to be okay, to not be in pain. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Wow, I just typed out this huge response, and stopped and realized where I was was lol. I left you a message on Fb :)

Thanks Bella.

I'm about to go check on him right now. Maybe the pain pill kicked in and he'll want something to eat. I have to get some food into him, one way or another.

He hasn't eaten in around 2 days. It's amazing how much weight a dog can lose in 2 days, even an obese dog.

The weight loss is noticeable.

I'm so worried about him, and the vet has no answers. I just spent $400 to be told that they have no idea what's wrong. That's comforting. NOT! :(

So I'm not better off then I was yesterday, other then the fact that I have pills that I have to force my dog to take.

I just can't lose him! I can't! Not now! It's too soon! :(

Alty... will he eat if you hand feed him? Maybe putting a bit of gravy on his food? You could put some food in a blender if he will "drink". Do you have Pill Pockets there? They can often help with getting a pet to take pills.

Alty......will he eat if you hand feed him? Maybe putting a bit of gravy on his food? You could put some food in a blender if he will "drink". Do you have Pill Pockets there? They can often help with getting a pet to take pills.

I have tried hand feeding him. He turns his head away. He has no interest in even his very favorite foods.

We got the pill down, even though he wasn't happy. Hopefully it will kick in and the vet will be right, he'll be pain free and get his appetite back. That's what I'm hoping.

I've never heard of pill pockets, but I'll go to the local pet store to see if they have them. I'm also thinking of putting some food in a blender, if I can't get anything into him, and putting it into a turkey baster, forcing it into him. He's lost noticeable weight, and he wasn't a thin dog to begin with.

The lack of appetite is what concerns me the most. This is not a dog that turns down food. For him to be refusing food means that something much more serious then a strained leg and arthritis is going on.

I just wish they had given us an answer, a diagnosis, some hope. Even if it was horrible news, knowing what we're dealing with would help us deal with it. Right now they're guessing, and we're doing our best just to keep him alive and comfortable.

Dani - I HATE eBay and Paypal. I stopped using both

Alty - So sorry about poor Jasper. My dogs are just like my children, I know how it feels when they are sick or hurting. I hope that he is pain free and back to normal soon.

And on a brighter (yet faaaar less important note) I am sharing my new ink...
39860

:) it has my fiance's initials in it... but you probably can't see them well... TLD

What does it say? I can't read all of it.

*hugs* Alty.

On a brighter note... every time I think my son can't get any cuter, we have a photo shoot and I'm proved wrong. Had fun tonight and can't wait for the pics.

It says 'While I breathe I'm yours.' It's a quote from a song. The 'e' at the end of breathe and the 's' at the end of yours are formed with the tree roots.

*hugs* Alty.

On a brighter note...every time I think my son can't get any cuter, we have a photo shoot and I'm proved wrong. Had fun tonight and can't wait for the pics.

Will you share? I love baby cheeks! :)

Good morning peeps. It's Friday and I am feelin' fine! How YOU doin'?

Friday morning and my off day so I'm lying in bed watching an old black and white movie and reading Q & A on here and then it's up to get some housework done.
I love it when I don't have to jump up shower and leave home before my eys are completely open.

Oooo I'm jealous. I have one hour of classes, then back to work and then out to the camp at 4:30! I am so happy to see summer here. I missed my camping!

I have tried hand feeding him. He turns his head away. He has no interest in even his very favorite foods.

We got the pill down, even though he wasn't happy. Hopefully it will kick in and the vet will be right, he'll be pain free and get his appetite back. That's what I'm hoping.

I've never heard of pill pockets, but I'll go to the local pet store to see if they have them. I'm also thinking of putting some food in a blender, if I can't get anything into him, and putting it into a turkey baster, forcing it into him. He's lost noticeable weight, and he wasn't a thin dog to begin with.

The lack of appetite is what concerns me the most. This is not a dog that turns down food. For him to be refusing food means that something much more serious then a strained leg and arthritis is going on.

I just wish they had given us an answer, a diagnosis, some hope. Even if it was horrible news, knowing what we're dealing with would help us deal with it. Right now they're guessing, and we're doing our best just to keep him alive and comfortable.



I know - it's a game of guesswork and you've got to be reeling from your recent loss.

I know pain will take a dog right off his food, and I've seen it happen.

My Vet is big into specialists at the moment. I had no idea there are so many specialities. What does the Vet say? Wait and see? Something else?

Yay Friday! Get today over with and we are taking the boat out catfishing tomorrow! It is supposed to be in the 80's tomorrow. About time all we have had is rain and more rain.

will you share? I love baby cheeks! :)

I've never figured out how to post pics on AMHD, honestly. If someone can baby step me through it, I'll post some of last month's pics. I won't have this month's for a couple of weeks, as my photographer is going out of town for a funeral and then business.

I'm meeting my hubby for lunch today, and then I'm going to see a good friend for probably the last time. She was moved from the hospital to hospice care, but she's stopped eating and friends say that she won't live past the weekend. I'm heartbroken at the thought of saying goodbye to her, and I'm sure I'm going to have a breakdown in her room.

Synnen, We will pray that god walks with you to visit your friend for the last time. When it gets hard lean on him.

I'm meeting my hubby for lunch today, and then I'm going to see a good friend for probably the last time. She was moved from the hospital to hospice care, but she's stopped eating and friends say that she won't live past the weekend. I'm heartbroken at the thought of saying goodbye to her, and I'm sure I'm going to have a breakdown in her room.

Strength to you, friend.

Hey Dudes,

Happy 420 day. I don't know what that means. Anybody?

excon

Who's the new dog expert?

Hey Dudes,

Happy 420 day. I dunno what that means. Anybody?

excon

No clue.

Something to do with carpentry?

No clue.Hello Syn:

And, you have the nerve to call yourself Synnen... Smoking marijahoochie is sinning to the max, and I LOVE it.

excon

National Weed Day.

Dammit, forgot the sarcasm font.

I know damned well what today is about.

It's about smoking weed and doing carpentry. Because seriously, what serious weed smoker doesn't try to BUILD something when high? Most notably, build a better bong!

I'm meeting my hubby for lunch today, and then I'm going to see a good friend for probably the last time. She was moved from the hospital to hospice care, but she's stopped eating and friends say that she won't live past the weekend. I'm heartbroken at the thought of saying goodbye to her, and I'm sure I'm going to have a breakdown in her room.

Thoughts are with you, May you find the strength to get through this and enough left over to pass on to your friend.

I'm meeting my hubby for lunch today, and then I'm going to see a good friend for probably the last time. She was moved from the hospital to hospice care, but she's stopped eating and friends say that she won't live past the weekend. I'm heartbroken at the thought of saying goodbye to her, and I'm sure I'm going to have a breakdown in her room.

Hope things went as well as could be expected and that it will give you some closure. No doubt, it helps her tremendously in spirit.

It was very hard to see my friend today. She was emaciated, probably down to 70 lbs, not breathing on her own, and so doped on morphine she had no idea who we were. She couldn't talk, and I'm not sure she was even mentally aware of anything but her pain. There were others there to lean on and share our love together, so it wasn't as bad as I thought, but my heart still broke and I had to stop at a park on the way home and just watch the lake with Boo for a while to pull myself together.

Thanks for the thoughts and prayers. I'm just awaiting word now that she's passed... I will be very surprised if she makes it past tonight.

I'm so sorry Synn. Going through something like that is painful to everyone, not just the person with the disease. She is a very lucky woman to have such a good friend like you.

Continued thoughts and prayers Synn... for you, for her, and for her family and friends. May she pass peacefully.

And... I just got word that she's passed.

Oh, how the heart breaks when someone dear to you is lost.

I am so sorry Syn. May she be blessed.

And...I just got word that she's passed.

Oh, how the heart breaks when someone dear to you is lost.

Synn, I'm so very very sorry. I wish I could give you a hug, give you a shoulder.

Words don't really help at times like these. All the "I'm sorry" and "she's in a better place", or "She's at peace", don't mean a damn thing when you lose someone you love.

Alcohol helps, and plenty of it, but I wouldn't recommend that long term. Crying helps, until you cry to the point where you have no tears left. The one thing that helps the most is talking about it. Not just how you're feeling now, but talking about the good times, the memories you have.

Truth is, all the words don't help, but they're true. We are all sorry, and she is in a better place, even if you don't believe in God. She is at peace and her pain is no more. It's those that she left behind that will now carry the pain, will now carry the burden of her loss. But she, she can finally rest. For that, be thankful. For the rest, well, you can keep her alive, if not in person, then in your thoughts, your memories, in your heart. You have that power.

So cry, yell, get mad. You have every right to be mad that she was taken. You have every right to cry. But, while you're crying, remember one of the good times you shared, and smile because of it. In that way she will live on, because she had a friend, you. You will keep her alive in your heart.

If you think about it, that's how all of us will go on. Because at one point, every single one of us will join her. We'll all leave this earth. Only the memories of us will go on. So smile at those memories. She's no longer in pain, and I doubt that any friend of yours would want you to feel pain because of her. She'd want you to smile. Wouldn't she? I know she would!

Hugs.

Alty, you are so wonderful with words. I wish I could express my sympathy as beautiful as you do.

Synn, I am so very sorry for your loss. Losing someone we love is never easy. I've often wondered if it's easier if they pass suddenly or if it's a long term illness. I've come to the conclusion that neither is easier on those left behind.

As Alty put it so well, remember the good times, keep her alive in your mind and heart.

Sometimes I feel that I am much better with pets than with people, but I won't let that stop me from expressing my sympathy.
Alty and J_9 have put it so well. My thoughts are with you I know today couldn't have easy for you, I've stood by that bedside myself and have felt my heart break into.
But it will mend and your friend will always remain a part of it.
God bless

Sometimes I feel that I am much better with pets than with people, but I won't let that stop me from expressing my sympathy.
Alty and J_9 have put it so well. My thoughts are with you I know today couldn't have easy for you, I've stood by that bedside myself and have felt my heart break into.
But it will mend and your friend will always remain a part of it.
God bless

Pets can be easier, and then at the same time, just as hard. No loss is easy. The only thing that's constant, inevitable, is that we'll all lose someone at one time or another. We'll all be lost at one time or another. Nothing is forever.

I've stood beside more bedsides than I care to remember. Bedsides of people I didn't think I'd survive losing, and I still don't know how I did survive that loss.

My parents, Aunts, grandparents, and pets (which are family to me). My parents were the hardest, but every single loss was hard. None of them left me immune to death. Not one of them left me without a scar to show for it.

To this day I still miss every person and animal I lost. Their death, their loss, is still very much a part of me. But, I go on. Somehow I go on, as we all do. As Synn will do.

It sucks, it sucks big time, but I've been told that that's life. Doesn't make it suck any less though.

Thank you all. I'm glad she's no longer in pain, but I'm going to miss her so very much. She was a mentor, a surrogate mother when mine was far away, and a sarcastic soul who made me laugh when it felt like my world was upside down.

And she went downhill so quickly that the chicken soup I made for her is still frozen in my freezer because we could never work out a time to get together when she was still well enough to eat it. I really do not want to go to work today--I'd rather either stay home and cuddle my family close or get together with others that loved my Lizard-Breath.

Stupid damned work ethic.