View Full Version : What about Obama's ratings in the toilet rating now?
twinkiedooter
Aug 20, 2011, 06:04 PM
Now that he has a whopping 26% approval rating under his belt do you think it's a good idea for him to run again as President? I mean after all that he has done for (?) this country in undoing the immigration laws, to name just one thing. He sure has done nothing to speak of in helping out this country out of it's deep depression such as really creating jobs or solving the problems this country is plagued with. If he took the soldiers out of Afganistan right after Ossama was killed as he had promised the 31 special operations personnel plus the air crew would still be alive. There would have been 31 less flags draped over caskets being sent back to America.
I for one told you guys when he was running back in 2008 that this guy was poison to this country and no one listened to me but just merrily kept shouting me down. Well, things have really changed and this guy has SHOWN just who he is and what his agenda is. It's to destroy America as we know it making us a third world country with a dictator in charge.
Now what do you think should happen with Obama and his thugs continuing to run the country into the ground? Didn't we have enough of this guy to last us a lifetime?
Surely America is not this blind, or is it? Do we have to keep repeating history again and again or can we wake up and finally realize just WHO this guy IS and just who this guy IS NOT. Or as I suspect the elections are rigged to have the winner that the Illuminati or the Global Elite want in the White House. I'm beginning to lean toward the Global Elite selection myself and NOT who the people want. Electronic voting machines need to be eliminated due to the easy fraud involved.
P.S. Wondergirl - If you DO have a direct connection to him please tell him NOT to run again. We've had all of him and his family we can stomach for now. And his lies are getting pathetic. I don't want his forced healthcare either.
Wondergirl
Aug 20, 2011, 06:21 PM
Why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel?
paraclete
Aug 20, 2011, 07:08 PM
Well now you know what it is to live in a country controlled by a minority
NeedKarma
Aug 21, 2011, 03:33 AM
...what his agenda is. It's to destroy America as we know it making us a third world country with a dictator in charge.
People who say stuff like this don't want a discussion - they just want to rage on.
Fr_Chuck
Aug 21, 2011, 08:52 AM
Of course why not be glad to see him to run. It is like the last election, anyone who was not Rebublican could have won.
So now, almost any one has a good chance
excon
Aug 21, 2011, 09:14 AM
So now, almost any one has a good chanceHello Padre:
I agree that a REASONABLE Republican, like Huntsman or Mitch Daniels could win. But, a know nothing like Bachmann or Palin, or a swaggering Republican from Texas have NO CHANCE.
Paul Ryan is probably going to enter the race.. He has no chance either... Chris Christie??
Well now you know what it is to live in a country controlled by a minority
Clete, if you mean the Democrats, they aren't a minority.. But, I think you mean black people. Not only is that wrong too, but the implications are ugly racist.
excon
twinkiedooter
Aug 21, 2011, 09:32 AM
Why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel?
I already did. I never believed him or liked him and always thought that once he got into office this country would be doomed. And it is NOW. He is a communist happily stripping away our beloved Constitution and giving us a dictatorship. I'll be worse than surprised if we have another election and have a dictator in charge soon as it's looking more like that every day. And he really does not need an excuse to name himself dictator. Bush already paved the way for this to happen and he's going to grab at this with both hands. So, if you DO have a direct line to him, please tell him to back off. You did claim to have a direct line to him, remember of have you forgotten? I haven't.
And as far as Tea Partiers, I think they're going nowhere as well. They mean well, but somehow they don't have the right adjenda going for them as the birth certificate issue is NOT going anywhere thanks to the millions spent in concealing it.
twinkiedooter
Aug 21, 2011, 09:33 AM
Well now you know what it is to live in a country controlled by a minority
Sorry, this is NOT a minority controlled country. It is a country headed towards Communism and dictatorhsip. Obama is just the puppet handled by the real controllers of this country.
twinkiedooter
Aug 21, 2011, 09:35 AM
People who say stuff like this don't want a discussion - they just want to rage on.
Uh you seem to forget that YOU where for this guy and you don't even live in this country. So much for your opinions on this poison guy. I even said America will probably be gunless and rightless like you are soon, or don't you remember that?
twinkiedooter
Aug 21, 2011, 09:39 AM
Of course why not be glad to see him to run. It is like the last election, anyone who was not Rebublican could have won.
So now, almost any one has a good chance
Niice sentiments but I frankly don't see that happening. Look at Bush II stealing the first and second election. Same thing can happen AGAIN. Wouldn't surprise me in the least with Obama doing the same thing.
Obama is NOT a seasoned statesman, never was, never will be. He's just a puppet taking instructions on how to trash America and going forward thinking that these are his ideas. He's too wrapped up with himself and how wonderful he is and the handlers are just playing him like a fiddle.
Wondergirl
Aug 21, 2011, 09:43 AM
Twink, so you believe the best possible choice for U.S. president is whom?
twinkiedooter
Aug 21, 2011, 09:52 AM
We need a for real leader who does not speak out of both sides of their mouth. So far I have not seen any candidate that does not do this regardless Dem or Repub.
I like the fact that in Canada if they don't like their president they can vote him OUT. We don't have that option here in USA. Wish we did as Obama would have been voted out a long time ago.
His in the toilet ratings now mean that the country is hopefully waking up and seeing what a true liar this guy really is and was foisted upon us illegally all while singing change, change. Change, what for the worst? Apparently so and so many people fell for his malarkey. He runs a slick campaign promising all kinds of stuff and then delivers crap and lies.
I think that honest folks don't want to be president. My grandmother used to say that no honest man wants to be president. And she died back in 1955. How prophetic her words ring now.
Wondergirl
Aug 21, 2011, 10:02 AM
We need a for real leader who does not speak out of both sides of their mouth.
So we're doomed.
Did your grandmother ever like any president?
twinkiedooter
Aug 21, 2011, 10:49 AM
Not that I remember but then I was a kid when she died. She worked in a WWII factory during the war and did not like that as it ruined her health forever. When I knew her she was always ill and died at age 55 never collecting a dime of SSR.
Wondergirl
Aug 21, 2011, 10:57 AM
What's SSR? Did she apply for it and was turned down?
So all politicians are bad. Now what?
tomder55
Aug 21, 2011, 12:41 PM
This is amazing because every president has people who love him, who feel deep personal affection or connection, who have a stubborn, even beautiful refusal to let what they know are just criticisms affect their feelings of regard. At the height of Bill Clinton’s troubles there were always people who’d say, “Look, I love the guy.” They’d often be smiling — a wry smile, a shrugging smile. Nobody smiles when they talk about Mr. Obama. There were people who loved George W. Bush when he was at his most unpopular, and they meant it and would say it. But people aren't that way about Mr. Obama. He has supporters and bundlers and contributors, he has voters, he may win. But his support is grim support.
Noonan: They've Lost That Lovin' Feeling - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904800304576474620336602248.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion)
Peggy Noonan of course was one of those infatuated ,star-struck ,inside the beltway aristocratic Repubics who helped the President win in 2008 . Took her long enough to jump off the bus.
This weekend he did an executive order to essentally override Congress on immigration .This he felt compelled to do after the Hispanic/American community told him off . Perhaps he will salvage their support ;but Perry brings and interesting wrinkle in the President's strategery... and if Marco Rubio can be convinced to run as VEEP the President would be in trouble.
Who else... the Progressives are sick of him . Bernie Sanders wants him primaried . Maxine Waters expressed her disgust that the President's bus tour and vacation never made it into African/American comunities.
So he is losing a battle in which he had superior forces—the presidency, the U.S. Senate. In the process he revealed that his foes have given him too much mystique. He is not a devil, an alien, a socialist. He is a loser. And this is America, where nobody loves a loser.
twinkiedooter
Aug 21, 2011, 02:20 PM
What's SSR? Did she apply for it and was turned down?
So all politicians are bad. Now what?
SSR Social Security Retirement. She was not old enough and they didn't have SSD back then in 1955 for her to apply to. Both my grandmothers never collected SSD as they died before age 65. You could not retire at age 62 back then.
Yes MOST politicians are bad. How come you haven't figured this out yourself? The senators and congressmen only break their necks to get elected so they can become RICH or RICHER and do not have the best interests of America at heart. AND they essentially have a job for LIFE as a lot of those weasels end up getting. Very few of our Washington elected officials are poor or middleclass as they cannot afford the filing fees for one and don't have the mega bucks friends to contribute to their campaigns. Case in point, Obama didn't "need" the campaign money from the little people as he had tons of money from the big corporations here and abroad. Which I believe is illegal but he got away with it anyway. I worked on a campaign for a Senator in Florida back in 1996 (or thereabouts) and my boss was the Finance Treasurer of the campaign and I did all the financial disclosures paperwork for the contributors on a daily basis and faxed the info to the FEC daily.
paraclete
Aug 21, 2011, 04:49 PM
Clete, if you mean the Democrats, they aren't a minority.. But, I think you mean black people. Not only is that wrong too, but the implications are ugly racist.
excon
No Ex it simply means that you may not have things the way you like them, that members of a minority will want different issues addressed. That is only ugly and racist if you see those issues as unimportant
excon
Aug 21, 2011, 06:39 PM
Hello again, clete:
So, you WRONGLY believe that Obama is controlled by black people, and you now want to double down on your wrongness..
Ok, by me.
excon
paraclete
Aug 21, 2011, 10:08 PM
Hello again, clete:
So, you WRONGLY believe that Obama is controlled by black people, and you now wanna double down on your wrongness..
Ok, by me.
excon
No Ex that's not right I expect that he would have black issues as a high priority because he has worked among poorer black people, in fact, I would be surprised if he didn't. That doesn't make him wrong to pursue those issues because in doing so he will address issues important to a wider community. You want racist, I'll say that those who don't want to pay a little more in tax dollars to help those people are racist, how's that for doubling down. You guys over there have got to get past the elephant in the room, whether that's race or whether it is disadvantage, in fact I would say you have a whole herd of elephants in the room
tomder55
Aug 22, 2011, 02:36 AM
It's not the lack of tax dollars and policies that have hurt African -Americans . It's bad policies . Bad policies hurt the weakest the most;and it becomes ever clearer that big government policies have been a failure in the Western world .
It's not Black /White.. The President is wedded to a failed policy set .
By all appearances ,after he finshes his time in the playground of wealthy libs ;he will go back to Washington and try to double down on failed policies.
twinkiedooter
Aug 22, 2011, 08:48 AM
Tomder - heaven forbid he FIXES failed policies. Everything he touches turns to Horse poop.
speechlesstx
Aug 22, 2011, 08:56 AM
Hello Padre:
I agree that a REASONABLE Republican...
LOL, Bush was the spawn of Satan and he won twice.
Obama is in deep doo doo, hopenchange hasn't worked out like it supposed to. But then the media isn't sure yet if they've been duped (http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/21/nyts-friedman-way-too-soon-to-tell-if-media-blew-it-vetting-obama-the-candidate/) by Obama so there's still a chance he can dupe them and the voters again.
Wondergirl
Aug 22, 2011, 09:28 AM
Our weak and naïve President has been proven right in his decision to "lead from behind" and leave a small footprint in Libya. What the right-wing hawks said would happen didn't happen.
speechlesstx
Aug 22, 2011, 09:57 AM
Our weak and naive President...
Excellent description.
So what did those right-wing hawks say would happen that didn't happen? And surely you realize that besides being a lousy style, leading from behind is an oxymoron.
tomder55
Aug 22, 2011, 10:14 AM
I'm surprised there haven't been massive demonstrations by the left with "blood for oil" signs .
Lead from behind ? Lol... the NATO nations were calling in their cards. They told the President that they supported us in Afghanistan so it was time for the US to return the favor.
I'm thrilled Q~Daffy is on his way out ;and hopeful that the rebels are not a different brand of jihadistan.
Reasonable Republicans... hmm Huntsman can't decide if he is a Republican... Daniels is great now that he decided not to run.
I remember the NY Slimes giving their nod to McCain during the 2008 primaries and trashing him weeks later during the general election.
Yeah Huntsman is the toast of the Sunday talkshow circuit as he voices one Democrat position after another... that must make him reasonable.
When Mike Bloomberg enters the race another "reasonable Republican " will be available .
Wondergirl
Aug 22, 2011, 10:39 AM
So what did those right-wing hawks say would happen that didn't happen?
That the civil war would continue indefinitely.
Wondergirl
Aug 22, 2011, 10:40 AM
I'm suprised there haven't been massive demonstrations by the left with "blood for oil" signs .
Gas prices will be going down. You'll be saving money at the pump.
speechlesstx
Aug 22, 2011, 10:45 AM
I'm surprised there haven't been massive demonstrations by the left with "blood for oil" signs .
Good point.
Lead from behind ? Lol... the NATO nations were calling in their cards. They told the President that they supported us in Afghanistan so it was time for the US to return the favor.
He led "from behind" during Iran's green revolution a couple of years ago and he is obviously also "leading from behind" over Syria as it only took him 5 months, a couple of thousand deaths who knows how many arrests to call for Assad to go.
When Mike Bloomberg enters the race another "reasonable Republican " will be available .
Say it ain't so.
tomder55
Aug 22, 2011, 11:17 AM
Gas prices will be going down. You'll be saving money at the pump.
Only because of declining demand due to the summer of recovery. The question is will prices decline at the rate of the devaluation of the dollar ? More likely it will inversely rise to the fall of the curreny.
Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
So what did those right-wing hawks say would happen that didn't happen?
That the civil war would continue indefinitely.
I don't recall the "right-wing hawks" predicting that . There is of course the possibility that the tribes won't unite behind the new government ;and it is unclear where the new government will take the country . I am hopeful that the revolution doesn't get hijacked by jihadistan .
Wondergirl
Aug 22, 2011, 11:34 AM
Libya used to export c 1.5M barrels of oil per day. Almost all have been cut off since the beginning of the fighting when a barrel was $84. At the end of April, a barrel was over $110. Libya's oil is high quality and in demand for European refineries. If Libyan rebels succeed,the full effect of falling oil prices won't be felt for months, but oil markets (futures) will respond now already.
speechlesstx
Aug 22, 2011, 12:20 PM
That the civil war would continue indefinitely.
References?
excon
Aug 22, 2011, 12:48 PM
Yeah Huntsman is the toast of the Sunday talkshow circuit as he voices one Democrat position after another ....Hello again, tom:
So, your Republican candidate AIN'T going to believe in science, huh? I don't think that's going to work in your favor. Obama is weak, true.. But, he can BEAT your dingbats.
excon
tomder55
Aug 22, 2011, 05:33 PM
Yeah Huntsman's got the Dem talking points down pat. It's like he's reading their playbook... AWG skeptics are Science deniers... check... his Republican rivals are on the political "fringes", "at an extreme end of the Republican Party",and have "zero substance"... check.
I'll give him credit for one thing (2 because I thought he was a decent Ambassador)... unlike Romney ,he makes no effort to hide his RINO boni fides.
Wondergirl
Aug 22, 2011, 05:49 PM
Giuliani and Pataki might enter the race -- now THAT'S exciting!
tomder55
Aug 23, 2011, 03:36 AM
Pataki was a good Guv. In his case you are talking legit Republican moderate ;which in NY is about the best you can get .
Everyone knows Rudy's strengths and weaknesses . He was a great prosecutor and Mayor... not sure how that translates on the national stage. His weakness is he made a mess in his personal relations... and his professional judgement in his association with, and promotion of Bernard Kerik .
Wondergirl
Aug 23, 2011, 07:43 AM
Yup, Giuliani and Pataki -- and I'm a displaced New Yorker (Brockport area). Blue and white, fight, fight, fight! Go Blue Devils!
tomder55
Aug 23, 2011, 08:00 AM
Must love Great Lakes living ?
I love this in Wiki :
Due to a conflict between two of the founders of Brockport there are no intersections on Main St. that meet up squarely. Even the intersection of State St. and Main St. along with the intersection of Main St. and Adams St. are between one and two feet off from square. The founders hated each other so much that they refused to line up any streets when each designed each half of the village.
Lol; American politics in a nutshell !
twinkiedooter
Aug 23, 2011, 08:47 AM
Can anyone name THREE things Obama did that was in the best interest of America since he became president? I'm having a hard time coming up with ONE.
I can name more than two dozen things that he has done that has trashed this country and was not in the best interest of America. He's definitely pro big corporations and against the plebian public.
excon
Aug 23, 2011, 08:59 AM
Can anyone name THREE things Obama did that was in the best interest of America since he became president? Hello Dink:
Here's four. He ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell. He saved GM. He passed a health care law. He managed to overthrow Gadaffy WITHOUT losing ONE American life.
BUT, he also saved some banks that might not have needed saving.. He didn't prosecute the tortures. He didn't prosecute the banksters. He expanded the surveillance state. He expanded the war in Afghanistan. He didn't close Gitmo. He continued the Bush tax cuts, and he laid down for the Republicans every chance he could.
excon
Wondergirl
Aug 23, 2011, 09:19 AM
must love Great Lakes living ?
I lived two miles south of the lake (oh, those ice storms!) and rode a yellow school bus south to h.s. in Brockport. Now I understand why it took me so long to walk to my dentist's after school -- the streets weren't laid out correctly. It was fun riding across the Erie Canal every day and sometimes having to wait for the lift bridge to come down.
Wondergirl
Aug 23, 2011, 09:21 AM
Hello Dink:
Here's four.
What about bin Laden?
excon
Aug 23, 2011, 09:24 AM
What about bin Laden?Hello Carol:
We can count him. Why limit ourselves?
excon
tomder55
Aug 23, 2011, 09:34 AM
I'll add one...
His FCC recently and finally buried the Fairness Doctrine..
Watch for Dems in Congress to attempt to reintroduce it.
But... his Justice Dept ran guns to Drug Cartels in Mexico.
Wondergirl
Aug 23, 2011, 09:53 AM
He's cute and a good dancer? Good basketball player too?
speechlesstx
Aug 23, 2011, 02:05 PM
I give him credit for hiring Hillary calling for civility after the Tucson shootings. He didn't act on it but he gave a good speech.
talaniman
Aug 23, 2011, 03:07 PM
Now that he has a whopping 26% approval rating under his belt do you think it's a good idea for him to run again as President?
Look at the competition, nothing but CRAZIES! That includes Palin too, of course.
paraclete
Aug 23, 2011, 03:13 PM
Did someone rattle his cage this morning
tomder55
Aug 23, 2011, 03:20 PM
He missed a par because the earth shook.
J_9
Aug 23, 2011, 03:23 PM
Apparently the quake happened along the 'it's your fault' line that runs from Capitol to White House.
twinkiedooter
Aug 23, 2011, 06:30 PM
WOW now he as a whopping 19% approval rating!
Just HOW LOW is this guy going to GO?
Anyone want to take my bet that it will go under 10%??
talaniman
Aug 23, 2011, 06:31 PM
By then the congress will be in the nagative. Not many choices is there?