My ex has recently been baptized in his new faith but has been acting in violation of Biblical principles being taught in his congregation. He is committing fornication by sleeping with women he is not married to and such an act is enough grounds for him to be disfellowshipped. I confided to one religious sister about this and she strongly advised me to report this to congregational elders for investigation and discipline measures. You see, I just broke up with my ex and despite my desire to move on, I feel obliged by my faith (we share the same faith) to report his behavior. He would definitely know if he gets investigated that I am responsible for notifying the congregation and Im afraid he might think Im still bitter about our relationship and worse, he might deny his acts and refuse discipline from the congregation. Worst, he might just stop pursuing his faith. I am torn now if I should just keep silent or continue with reporting his behavior. Am I doing more harm than good for reporting him?

Im afraid he might think Im still bitter about our relationshipHello m:

You might have pure thoughts, but I think you just want to get him in trouble.

excon

Isn't reporting him the same as judging him?

You might to report yourself as well for very impure thoughts: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dating/affair-colleague-whos-got-girlfriend-308309.html

Also ex is correct, you're bent on revenge: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relationships/want-revenge-unfaithful-ex-but-he-makes-me-feel-sorry-when-do-468894.html

. . . and Im afraid he might think Im still bitter about our relationship and worse. . .
Lol

Come on, I read your revenge post yesterday.


. . .Please help me put this man down.
That was my favorite line.

My favorite was;


I want to make him feel sorry about what he's done

doesn't quite mesh with;


Im afraid he might think Im still bitter about our relationship and worse

Doesn't your religion teach forgiveness? Judge not lest you be judged? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and all that jazz?

If you do report him at least admit to yourself that you're doing it for revenge and nothing else. I guess that would be between you and whatever God you pray to.

You might have pure thoughts, but I think you just want to get him in trouble.

I thought I wanted to have my revenge initially but after much thought, I feel that he should be spiritually guided. Also, I pity him because he's alone in a foreign country and his life seems to be headed downhill.

1 John 5:16
"If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life."

None of us has perfect motives, but if you come before the Lord, yourself, you can ask Him to change your heart, and change your ex's heart, and He will hear you, and open a path for you to forgive, and for your ex to be cleansed of his sin(1John 3:9"No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.)

Beyond that, as your ex pursues Christ, Christ is pursuing him. The Holy Spirit will convict him of his sin, personally and then the man will have to grab hold of Amazing Grace for himself, or walk away from Christ.

There is actually a biblical protocol for addressing un-repented, continual sin in a fellow believer, outlined in one of Paul's letters. If you question your own motives, commit that, too, to the Lord, and ask Him to bring the sin to the attention of the church leadership, without your help.

Peace.

... I feel that he should be spiritually guided.
Luke 4:23 - "...Physician, heal thyself.."

he might just stop pursuing his faith
And how is he pursuing it now? Not real honestly, it seems...

This is between him and God. Stay out of it. It's certainly not Christian love that's causing you to want to report him. (Are you a Witness?)

Stay away from other people business. If he were hurting someone physically, yes. But it looks as though he is just hurting your heart with out a doubt. No revenge needed, nor getting into something that is NOW none of your business. Sorry, but I am sure you are not perfect and if you had someone telling on you with every little thing you have done, you may get quite infuriated! Good luck with keeping with in your own business.

" If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone" John 8:7
" Vengeance is mine thus saith the Lord"
So already you are sinning as well. Will you turn yourself in?

I think you are hurt and mad and I can understand that, but don't use phony righteous indignation to get back at him.
That is not in accordance with biblical principles either.
When a person converts to faith, he/she does not instantly change. Perfection is a journey we are striving towards so don't judge him. Leave that to the One who knows his heart.

You make sure your heart is in the right place, leave his actions to God, and stop spreading his business to others in the church. That is gossip and it is also sin.

And how is he pursuing it now? Not real honestly, it seems....

This is between him and God. Stay out of it. It's certainly not Christian love that's causing you to want to report him. (Are you a Witness?)


Yes Im studying with JWs. He just got baptized as JW and a sister advised me to report him. I talked to the sister and told her it might not be a good idea to pursue reporting my ex's behavior but she said if I don't do something about it, she will be the one to notify elders.

You go Homegirl, perfectly said! Not only has she spread it through her church, I am sure she hasn't kept it a secret to her friends.

Don't use phony righteous indignation to get back at him. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT SO let me copy and paste it a hundred times so it will stick in your head, homegirl is so right on with this!
Don't use phony righteous indignation to get back at him.
Don't use phony righteous indignation to get back at him.
Don't use phony righteous indignation to get back at him.
Don't use phony righteous indignation to get back at him.
Well, you get the picture!

Then you might want to report or repent yourself because you have done this out of malice not for the state of his soul, and that is wrong.

You may have started a ball rolling you can't stop. That is the problem when you act out of vengeance.

Amazingly, in Christian fundamentalist churches such as the JWs, the one who reports the sin (for whatever reason) is not faulted by the congregation, and may even be applauded. What the church wants to do is expose the sin, hope the sinner will publicly repent (and will make life uncomfortable for him until he does, or instead disfellowships him). The exposure of the sin is everything, as a lesson for all "to eschew all evil."

Yes Im studying with JWs. He just got baptized as JW and a sister advised me to report him. I talked to the sister and told her it might not be a good idea to pursue reporting my ex's behavior but she said if I dont do something about it, she will be the one to notify elders.Sounds like a cult.

Yes Im studying with JWs. He just got baptized as JW and a sister advised me to report him. I talked to the sister and told her it might not be a good idea to pursue reporting my ex's behavior but she said if I dont do something about it, she will be the one to notify elders.

And that is when you go to him and ask his forgiveness because you were wrong to have opened your mouth to any degree about his business. Then, you let it alone and say you are staying out of it. See what you have started? If you were really pure in your thoughts, you would have just prayed for him and let it be.

Sounds like a cult.

Not really, just misguided people. People need to think before they act! Sheesh!

Sounds like a cult.
The Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) consider themselves Christian. We tried to define "Christian" on the Christianity board; it depends on whose definition you want to accept.

And that is when you go to him and ask his forgiveness because you were wrong to have opened your mouth to any degree about his business. Then, you let it alone and say you are staying out of it. See what you have started? If you were really pure in your thoughts, you would have just prayed for him and let it be.
You have spoken truth!

Live and let live.

If you and the guy from January can sneak around, your ex can date.

It's his business, between him and God.

You are no longer in his life.

This really shouldn't be that hard for you to understand.

And how would you know that he is "fornicating"?

Isn't reporting him the same as judging him?

Yeah I probably shouldn't judge him because Im an imperfect being just like him and anyone else. Seeing a woman on his bed at one point and hair strands of the same or probably another woman on his bed at another time leads me to conclude that he's definitely sleeping with them. How else would logical mind interpret that? Fornication, being having sex with anyone you are not married to, is strongly detestable especially in is faith. While I was overemotional in my previous post about possible vengeance at him, I thought my plans to report him to the congregation has an objective basis and not just personal judgment on my end.

Mred, I have a question. You stated in an earlier post that you and your ex lived together. Am I to understand that you lived together as boyfriend and girlfriend but you never had sex?

Are JW's allowed to live together if they're not married?

1 John 5:16

None of us has perfect motives, but if you come before the Lord, yourself, you can ask Him to change your heart, and change your ex's heart, and He will hear you, and open a path for you to forgive, and for your ex to be cleansed of his sin(1John 3:9"No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.)

There is actually a biblical protocol for addressing un-repented, continual sin in a fellow believer, outlined in one of Paul's letters. If you question your own motives, commit that, too, to the Lord, and ask Him to bring the sin to the attention of the church leadership, without your help.

Peace.

I just love you supporting your post with Biblical verses.

This is between him and God. Stay out of it. It's certainly not Christian love that's causing you to want to report him. (Are you a Witness?)

You are right in here that it is between God and him. But the teachings in our congregation encourage that we get rid of the rotten ones to maintain the integrity of the congregation. Ive already forgotten the vengeance part. Now Im reassessing if I had judged him because really I have objective basis for it.

You are right in here that it is between God and him. But the teachings in our congregation encourage that we get rid of the rotten ones to maintain the integrity of the congregation. Ive already forgotten the vengeance part. Now Im reassessing if I had judged him coz really I have objective basis for it.

The rotten ones? Do you mean those that sin?

How do you have a congregation if you get rid of all the rotten ones? Everyone sins.

Sounds very misguided to me. So the congregation is judge and jury. Where is the loving embrace of God? Where is forgiveness and acceptance?

Doesn't sound like your congregation has any integrity to begin with, maybe it's time to weed out a few more "rotten ones". :(

You judged him because you were mad. That is wrong.

Were you not living with him at one time?

But it looks as though he is just hurting your heart with out a doubt. No revenge needed, nor getting into something that is NOW none of your business. Sorry, but I am sure you are not perfect and if you had someone telling on you with every little thing you have done, you may get quite infuriated!! Good luck with keeping with in your own business.


Well, he lied to me that he wanted us apart because he thought I was tempting him into fornication. But guess what, he is sleeping with other women and I saw it with my own eyes. I forgot most of my vengeance plans now and I feel guilty about telling a religious sister about it - she wants me to report the whole thing and protect the congregation. I don't want my ex to feel so much shame and guilt in all of this but I feel duty-bound towards the congregation

Well, he lied to me that he wanted us apart coz he thought I was tempting him into fornication. But guess what, he is sleeping with other women and I saw it with my own eyes. I forgot most of my vengeance plans now and I feel guilty about telling a religious sister about it - she wants me to report the whole thing and protect the congregation. I dont want my ex to feel so much shame and guilt in all of this but I feel duty-bound towards the congregation

Does the congregation know that you lived with this man? Is living with someone out of wedlock condoned by your congregation?

If you point fingers at someone for their sins, don't be surprised when someone else points a finger at you.

Then you might want to report or repent yourself because you have done this out of malice not for the state of his soul, and that is wrong.


I didn't do this out of malice, I thought about it a lot. Please read my recent posts.

Can you please answer my questions?

Does your congregation condone unwed couples living together?

Did you two live together and not have sex?

Can't you see that it's just as easy for him to turn around and point the finger at you?

Amazingly, in Christian fundamentalist churches such as the JWs, the one who reports the sin (for whatever reason) is not faulted by the congregation, and may even be applauded. What the church wants to do is expose the sin, hope the sinner will publicly repent (and will make life uncomfortable for him until he does, or instead disfellowships him). The exposure of the sin is everything, as a lesson for all "to eschew all evil."

Thank you for explaining this. This is true and based on the Bible. You a witness?

How can you say you feel "duty bound" when you also said you feel guilty about telling a sister about him?
You were angry and probably jealous when you did that. You did it with malice, which is why you feel guilty. (and you should) So now you have to save face and allow this man to be shamed.
I think that is wrong. You were wrong as well. Your heart was not in the right place. Who shames you? No one I'll bet

Well, he lied to me that he wanted us apart coz he thought I was tempting him into fornication. But guess what, he is sleeping with other women and I saw it with my own eyes. I forgot most of my vengeance plans now and I feel guilty about telling a religious sister about it - she wants me to report the whole thing and protect the congregation. I dont want my ex to feel so much shame and guilt in all of this but I feel duty-bound towards the congregation

This is the biggest B.S. post I have ever heard. "I forgot MOST of my vengence plans"? What? No, you forget them all, go be happy and get yourself together and learn the real value and meaning of your religion. You are talking to the wrong people in your congregation! Do not tear anyone else's life apart like you have started with this man. Not good.

Live and let live.

And how would you know that he is "fornicating"?

I saw a girl sleep on his bed with my very own eyes and at another time a hairstrands from a girl most likely in his bed. How else could a man and woman interact in bed when they're alone?

I saw a girl sleep on his bed with my very own eyes and at another time a hairstrands from a girl most likely in his bed. How else could a man and woman interact in bed when theyre alone?

You were living with him, is that allowed in your congregation?

I'll keep asking until I get an answer. I'm guessing that I haven't gotten an answer because it is indeed not allowed by your church and you know it.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Put the rock down sweetie, you have no right even to hold it, let alone throw it.

Mred, I have a question. You stated in an earlier post that you and your ex lived together. Am I to understand that you lived together as boyfriend and girlfriend but you never had sex?

Are JW's allowed to live together if they're not married?

Good question. We are not allowed to have sex and we committed that error at the outset. You see, I am not yet baptized and didn't even know what fornication is until he taught me about it. He had known it all along and recently broke up with me to avoid committing fornication with me. I have since resisted his advances until then but now he's sleeping with other women and keeping it cool at the congregation.

I didn't do this out of malice, I thought about it a lot. Please read my recent posts.
I did read your recent post.
What I see is an angry woman who ran off and told one of the sisters at the church what he did and now you feel guilty because you know you did it because he lied to you. You were mad it him. That makes it personal and makes your reason for turning him in wrong.
If he leaves the church, he probably should because if he is shamed, you should be too.

This is the biggest B.S. post I have ever heard. "I forgot MOST of my vengence plans"?? What? No, you forget them all, go be happy and get yourself together and learn the real value and meaning of your religion. You are talking to the wrong people in your congregation! Do not tear anyone elses life apart like you have started with this man. Not good.

Is this you my ex talking?

Good question. We are not allowed to have sex and we committed that error at the outset. You see, I am not yet baptized and didnt even know what fornication is until he taught me about it. He had known it all along and recently broke up with me to avoid committing fornication with me. I have since resisted his advances til then but now he's sleeping with other women and keeping it cool at the congregation.

So you're not sinless, but you dare to judge someone else?

Do JW's not subscribe to God being a forgiving God? Is he the hell, fire and brimstone God, or the God that accepts all, loves all, judges no one and forgives all sins?

If he's the H,F and B God, then I have a perfect reason to slam the door in the face of the next JW that comes knocking.

You don't have the right to judge, you aren't God!

If you report him, that is a far greater sin then anything he has done, because you're doing it for revenge, you just won't admit it to yourself.

God sees into your soul, you can write lies here, but you know the truth and so does He. Think about that before you report your ex.

is this you my ex talking?

Are you asking if Starty is your ex?

Well, seeing as she is married and has 4 beautiful children, I'd guess no. :(

You were living with him, is that allowed in your congregation?

I'll keep asking until I get an answer. I'm guessing that I haven't gotten an answer because it is indeed not allowed by your church and you know it.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Put the rock down sweetie, you have no right even to hold it, let alone throw it.

Its NOT allowed. The difference is he is baptized and vowed to be committed to his faith and he knows the Scriptures so well. I didn't know what fornication was until we already had sex and he told me it is fornication. How can I feel guilty at that time when I didn't know? Im unbaptized and new to the faith

Good question. We are not allowed to have sex and we committed that error at the outset. You see, I am not yet baptized and didn't even know what fornication is until he taught me about it. He had known it all along and recently broke up with me to avoid committing fornication with me. I have since resisted his advances til then but now he's sleeping with other women and keeping it cool at the congregation.

Oh, so you're a sinner too. Did you also tell this sister that you had sex with him, that you two were living together?
You have another post here talking about how angry you are, how you're texting and calling him yet here you want to pretend a pure heart.
You are trying to justify what you know was wrong. You should have kept your mouth shut. This man's "sin" would have come out sooner or later, but it should not have come from you. That's like the pot calling the kettle black.

So you're not sinless, but you dare to judge someone else?

Do JW's not subscribe to God being a forgiving God? Is he the hell, fire and brimstone God, or the God that accepts all, loves all, judges no one and forgives all sins?

If he's the H,F and B God, then I have a perfect reason to slam the door in the face of the next JW that comes knocking.

You don't have the right to judge, you aren't God!

If you report him, that is a far greater sin then anything he has done, because you're doing it for revenge, you just won't admit it to yourself.

God sees into your soul, you can write lies here, but you know the truth and so does He. Think about that before you report your ex.

Please don't take it against our faith. I don't want to argue on that note and on this site. Maybe Im new at my faith but I know our God is forgiving but he's also God of perfect justice. It was a more spiritually mature sister in the congregation advising me to pursue notifying our congregation about my ex. I already told her I would just want to keep silent but she said it is my duty to report it. The congregation will still investigate and do due process before he gets any discipline

Please dont take it against our faith. I dont want to argue on that note and on this site. Maybe Im new at my faith but I know our God is forgiving but he's also God of perfect justice. It was a more spiritually mature sister in the congregation advising me to pursue notifying our congregation about my ex. I already told her I would just wanna keep silent but she said it is my duty to report it. the congregation will still investigate and do due process before he gets any discipline

Your God isn't forgiving. You said yourself that the congregation get's rid of the "rotten" people. That's not forgiveness, that's judgment.

is this you my ex talking?

Uh, no. But I am sure he would be saying something like I did. Seriously though, if you really want to feel good about a bad situation, move on and really work on yourself. You are number one, not him, or anyone else. You can be doing really positive things, you should be at least. This is called DRAMA, this is gossip and it is wrong! Good luck

Uh, no. But I am sure he would be saying something like I did. Seriously though, if you really want to feel good about a bad situation, move on and really work on yourself. You are number one, not him, or anyone else. You can be doing really positive things, you should be at least. This is called DRAMA, this is gossip and it is wrong! Good luck

Thank you. You know it helps that someone else is validating my ex's thoughts and actions. Gosh, Im wondering if this just a cultural gap that makes us misunderstand each other from the very start. He's american and Im Asian. I bet u are american?

Your God isn't forgiving. You said yourself that the congregation get's rid of the "rotten" people. That's not forgiveness, that's judgment.

Please don't let my words speak for the entire congregation. Im new at my faith and I could be wrong with the things I said. Im glad that I saw the other side of the coin from your end and Id like to thank you.

Please don't let my words speak for the entire congregation. Im new at my faith and I could be wrong with the things I said. Im glad that I saw the other side of the coin from your end and Id like to thank you.

Well you're welcome. I hope that you re-think what you're doing and why you're doing it. Be honest with yourself.

You started a ball rolling and it may be too late to stop it, but the least you can do is admit your sin, admit that you did this out of vengeance and not because of your beliefs. If you truly believe in this faith, then you must own up to your sins as well.

Well you're welcome. I hope that you re-think what you're doing and why you're doing it. Be honest with yourself.

You started a ball rolling and it may be too late to stop it, but the least you can do is admit your sin, admit that you did this out of vengeance and not because of your beliefs. If you truly believe in this faith, then you must own up to your sins as well.

It is initially out of vengeance but as I started to calm down and see all sides to this issue, I guess Im thinking and rethinking and weighing things objectively. To tell u honestly, reporting him would cause trouble to me as well. The religious sister was more eager about it

It is initially out of vengeance but as I started to calm down and see all sides to this issue, I guess Im thinking and rethinking and weighing things objectively. To tell u honestly, reporting him would cause trouble to me as well. The religious sister was more eager about it

So this religious sister is eager to expose him. What does that tell you about her? I doubt that she is sinless, no one is.

The only thing I know about your chosen religion is what I learned from my neighbor. She was a JW, but she chose to leave. Obviously she doesn't condone the behavior of the people in her congregation, she chose to leave because she didn't like the way things were handled, the restrictions made on women etc. That's neither here nor there.

This is the faith you've chosen, but I think you're realizing that no one is perfect. Yes, you too could be thrown under the bus if you report this. You could be labeled one of the "rotten" ones by the congregation. My question is, who in the congregation is allowed to make this judgment? Only God is without sin. If man is judging man, he has no right. Your "religious sister" has no right, you have no right, so what does telling on someone accomplish. Who is the judge? Only one being has the right to judge and it's not anyone in the congregation.

I would ask your religious sister if she would like her sins revealed to the congregation.

Also, she told someone in the faith that told "her" to report, since the other person knows why did they not merely report it ?

But no, it is not your place, we don't have to be perfect to be baptised, we only have to want to be saved. God takes and accepts us the way we are, and then works to change us.

Also, she told someone in the faith that told "her" to report, since the other person knows why did they not merely report it ?

But no, it is not your place, we don't have to be perfect to be baptised, we only have to want to be saved. God takes and accepts us the way we are, and then works to change us.

For people of faith I think that is the most important thing. It's God's decision, not mans.

No, I'm not a Christian, or a JW, or anything when it comes to religious beliefs, but having said that, if you do believe, it's up to the God you believe in, not the person sitting next to you. :)

you should be happy for them that they wanted to be baptised, happy for them that they are going to church. This means they may at some time start living the life style more and more.

Also doing things in spite against someone is a serious sin also, so move on, get over it ( with time) and worry about your life, not his

Please dont take it against our faith. I dont want to argue on that note and on this site. Maybe Im new at my faith but I know our God is forgiving but he's also God of perfect justice. It was a more spiritually mature sister in the congregation advising me to pursue notifying our congregation about my ex. I already told her I would just wanna keep silent but she said it is my duty to report it. the congregation will still investigate and do due process before he gets any discipline

If you wanted to just keep silent, you would not have told her.
You went to her to spread stuff about a man you are angry with. That is gossip and you did it in hope that it would be spread and he would be shamed.
Well it has come back to bite you. You bit off more than you can chew and now you must live with whatever mess hits the fan.
Vengeance is an ugly motivator that's why it belongs to God, not man.

Amazingly, in Christian fundamentalist churches such as the JWs, the one who reports the sin (for whatever reason) is not faulted by the congregation, and may even be applauded. What the church wants to do is expose the sin, hope the sinner will publicly repent (and will make life uncomfortable for him until he does, or instead disfellowships him). The exposure of the sin is everything, as a lesson for all "to eschew all evil."

Thank you for explaining this. This is true and based on the Bible. You a witness?
No, but I have a good friend who is a Witness. Plus, I grew up in an evangelical/fundamentalism church and know very well how things work.

If you wanted to just keep silent, you would not have told her.
You went to her to spread stuff about a man you are angry with. That is gossip and you did it in hope that it would be spread and he would be shamed.
Well it has come back to bite you. You bit off more than you can chew and now you must live with whatever mess hits the fan.
Vengeance is an ugly motivator that's why it belongs to God, not man.

No, I never wanted to spread stuff about my ex's behavior. I had been initially emotional about this whole mess but ultimately my goal for having confided in a concerned sister is to get opinion because I know my ex could be misguided and he actually confessed to me that he needed spiritual help. Again, I cannot speak for my congregation yet because I am new at this.

Oh, so you did this so he could get spiritual guidance? Right!
You did this for revenge as you stated in your other thread. You were asking how you can get back at him.
You both are in need of spiritual guidance.

It really comes down to one thing. Worrying about yourself and not others. That is really the point here. I honestly think gossip and getting into others business is one of the most evil things. Especially when it doesn't stay right where it should and gets spread like an awful disease! You will be sorry you started this, maybe not today... but some day you will, and that really sucks! Just stop the ball now and leave it be. I wish you the best of luck with your pure intentions.

Mred

Romans 12:


17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[d]says the Lord. 20On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."[e] 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.


It is perfectly understandable that you are hurt by this guy, angry, and perfectly human to want revenge - to see him get his. I'm not sure about JW doctrine, but since accepting God in faith, you are called to be more than just human. God forgives us for our sin. God loves us before we love God. 1 john 4. That being the case, the first step in healing is asking God to help your pain and to help you FORGIVE this guy and let go of the anger that controls your thoughts and emotions. This may take some time but it is what God has done for our own sins.

If you are in a church that expects people to be sinless, perfect : run away !

Mark 2:17

17On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."


About words, read James 3, Proverbs 10:19.




G&P

mred,

My advise? keep your mouth shut and if there really is something evil that needs to be revealed.. let GOD do the revealing.

Incidentally gossip is ALSO a sin. Something the Lord frowns on pretty bad. Check out what happened to Miriam, Moses sister when she gossiped about the wife of Moses.

Use wisdom, say nothing and if your church really says they are weeding out the "rotten ones", find another church. That isn't scriptural... AT ALL.

My ex has recently been baptized in his new faith but has been acting in violation of Biblical principles being taught in his congregation. He is committing fornication by sleeping wtih women he is not married to and such an act is enough grounds for him to be disfellowshipped. I confided to one religious sister about this and she strongly advised me to report this to congregational elders for investigation and discipline measures. You see, I just broke up with my ex and despite my desire to move on, I feel obliged by my faith (we share the same faith) to report his behavior. He would definitely know if he gets investigated that I am responsible for notifying the congregation and Im afraid he might think Im still bitter about our relationship and worse, he might deny his acts and refuse discipline from the congregation. Worst, he might just stop pursuing his faith. I am torn now if I should just keep silent or continue wtih reporting his behavior. Am I doing more harm than good for reporting him?


No, You should not report him. It's not your business and it's not the elders business. This is between him , his conscious and his god. Investigation ? Disciplinary action? If he was your minister that was being paid by you for leadership, yes. Being a fellow congregationalist ? No way.

mred,

My advise?, keep your mouth shut and if there really is something evil that needs to be revealed..let GOD do the revealing.

Incidently gossip is ALSO a sin. Something the Lord frowns on pretty bad. Check out what happened to Miriam, Moses sister when she gossiped about the wife of Moses.

Use wisdom, say nothing and if your church really says they are weeding out the "rotten ones", find another church. That isn't scriptural....AT ALL.

Guess what Classy T ? I agree with you 100% !:)

Cozyk,

And people don't believe in miracles... ha ha. ;)

Cozyk,

and people don't believe in miracles...ha ha. ;)





mred;
You are not his judge, God is. There are no big sins or little sins. Gossiping to another one of the Church members is a sin. Stirring up strife in the church is a sin. " Ye who is without sin cast the first stone."I don't think anyone of your church members would or could throw any.

Jehovah's Witnesses are required to live by example. While no one is perfect, a direct violation of God's Law re: fornication must be dealt with, in order for him to start again with a clean conscious, and to ensure that the reputation of the Christian congregation not to be dirtied.
I am also scriptually divorced (according to the Bible, Jesus stated the only way that marriage could be dissolved to allow remarriage is adultery) and it is understandable for someone to feel hurt, angry and resentful when someone has committed adultery. Time will help, along with help from your family and friends.

If fornication is to be dealt with then bring all the following before the church. Liars, thieves, idolaters, murderers, gossipers, false prophets, whore mongers and whores, people who miss church, haters, double minded people, disobedient children. There wouldn't be anyone left sitting in the pews, myself included.

I love the Lord and I know he loves me and he has been so good to me. It's not up to anyone to judge anyone and gossip about them. Sin is sin. God Forgives. When you break one commandment , you break them all.

Complicate it all you want.

My ex wife had a long term affair with a married man.

If find it unbelievably distasteful that she, on one hand, wants a more transparent life, closer to God... and on the other, is probably secretly wishing he abandons his family and vows to be with her.

I don't get it.

It doesn't matter.

Deep breath in and deep breath out.

Stay out of his bedroom. Stay out of his life. Its just better for you.

I understand that really believing sometimes compells us, even demands of us, to do things we might not want to do because we are called to...

Look... we are flawed. Who doesn't come to any faith with issues to work out? That's not a pass to be an idiot... but it is his job to follow his faith, uh, faithfully... step away and focus on yourself.