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grammadidi
Oct 24, 2007, 01:16 AM
Hahaha! Craig, I can't think of a thing that you have written that deserves a beating! :) Hope you don't have too many scars! ;)

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 01:27 AM
Oh man, after that post Jan made I'm definitely going to have to use my thinking cap :)

And, I'm sure that you can, and you will, because you have a special gift of being able to see what is happening and sort things out and answer according to your experience and what you believe. The more support that a person receives, and also "tough love" as might fit a particular case, maybe not the one in question, in this particular case, the more that the person has to think about and potentially act positively and in a proactive fashion in his or her life. Beyond that, the choice is theirs...

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 01:34 AM
Dear firmbeliever,

I have to go away for a little while. Mainly, because it's garbage pick-up day tomorrow, and I have to figure out how to fit my entire house into the garbage can! LoL!

Earlier today, I had said that I would be on some time later. I will be back in a short while to work on something with you that we had spoken about in another post. Okay? That is, if you are still available.

Craig

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 10:22 AM
Hey everyone... :)

erlobenauer
Oct 24, 2007, 11:02 AM
Hey BIWi-

Welcome to this thread. I hope you come to enjoy it as much as we all have. I admire just about everyone on this thread whom I talk with. Everyone is very talented and I'm SURE will be thrilled you decided to visit :)

Erica

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 11:10 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome ^.^... I don't have a lot of artwork but... I do write poetry... I could take some pictures of the paintings I do have... And if anyone would like to hear my poetry I'd love to share it. I don't got to worry about copy right I don't think cause all my poems I'm putting in a book and publishing soon.

erlobenauer
Oct 24, 2007, 11:22 AM
Fire away, we all love poetry, but not all can write poetry ( I'm actually just talking about myself, LOL ) Would love to see the paintings too.

Publishing a book?? That's fantastic, I hope it goes great for you :)

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 11:30 AM
Ya I've been working on two novels and I'm putting together a poetry book (I want to be an author). Well I just took some quick shots of my art but I don't know how to attach them.

erlobenauer
Oct 24, 2007, 11:34 AM
That's fantastic. Great ambitions, its truly inspiring!!

When you click " answer this question, you will see a little paperclip, just click on that, uplload and attach, and your set!!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 11:42 AM
Okay here's a few pictures of my art most of these were done at school but I just ordered some really good paints and pastels through my teacher and he's getting me something I could use as canvas. I already have the paints so I'm pretty excited. Anyway here's the only real good painting I've done that I have with me. It's of a magnolia... I painted it last year (I've gotten better since then >.<) I also do charcoal, scratch art, and pastels. (can you attach more then one picture?)

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erlobenauer
Oct 24, 2007, 11:46 AM
THe painting is great! I'd love to see more. Make sure you post after you receive your other supplies and get one finished :D

And sorry, lol - I don't know if you post more than one or not, I'm not that familiar with it yet!!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 11:52 AM
Lol thank you this is the one painting I'm most proud of. I have one other painting and it's of fields and a horse. I'm working on one in class right now. We got some boards and painted them with this white stuff (the name escapes me right now) and now we are painting renassance paintings on them. Our teacher wanted us to do the Mona Lisa but I didn't want to disgrace such a good painting >.<, I'm not good with real dark pictures. So I'm doing a replica of Small Cowper Madonna by Michelangelo. It's got brighter colors for me to work with and both the mother and child don't have ears... I can't draw ears let alone paint them >.<

erlobenauer
Oct 24, 2007, 12:06 PM
Lol - I have a hard time with ears myself, as with most of everything else! I bet the fields and horse is great too. How much longer until you finish with school?

erlobenauer
Oct 24, 2007, 12:11 PM
Sorry I couldn't stay and chat longer, I'm exhausted and need to get to bed. Thanks again for joining us, I hope you enjoy it!!

Erica

firmbeliever
Oct 24, 2007, 12:16 PM
If the size is not too large you can attach more than one.The total size must fit the limits.

Hi BiWi!
Welcome!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 12:16 PM
lol it's okay and I'm a jr so I have a year and a half left now. Hey firmbeliever ^.^

firmbeliever
Oct 24, 2007, 12:23 PM
Hi Biwi,
I loved your magnolia...

Would love to see some more and maybe some poems too.

Depressed in MO
Oct 24, 2007, 12:26 PM
[QUOTE=firmbeliever]"Every artist dips his brush in his own soul, and paints his nature into his pictures."
- Henry Ward Beecher

We would love to see your art!

Hi Firm,

Well, I already posted some of my stuff to this site but I'll put it up here again, then go look for some new things. First four are paintings: 1) SAHARA - oils, 2) TRANSITION - acrylics , 3) "ZI" a painting done in oils of my daughter-in-law and my grandson - oils, 4) my HEROES painting doen in oils, 5) Beadwork, these are just a few of the dozen or so beaded portraits of the State stamps that are completed, I am doing all the states.

Painting number one looks like the girl off of the cover of the National Geographic book that I have at my house. Very neat.

firmbeliever
Oct 24, 2007, 12:31 PM
Hey DiMO,
Welcome!

And yes that Girl painting is from Nat Geo magazine cover, it is beautiful! That's Chek's work... she is very creative.

Depressed in MO
Oct 24, 2007, 12:43 PM
Hey DiMO,
Welcome!

And yes that Girl painting is from Nat Geo magazine cover, it is beautiful!!Thats Chek's work...she is very creative.

Wow Cool, thanks.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 12:50 PM
Well what kind of poems do you want to hear? I have written poems on so many different topics.

firmbeliever
Oct 24, 2007, 12:51 PM
Do you paint or do any other creative work DiMO?
Please do show us some if you wish, and when you have the time...

BiWi,
Anything you would like to share... I love nature poems a lot.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 12:59 PM
Strangly enough those are the only kind I don't write... I've never been to good at nature poems but then again I haven't tried to write on in a while I'll bet if I tried now I could. I write I like I think about the good and bad sides of life. The poems I write most are ones about abuse and love. Here's the first love poem I ever wrote (I wrote this when I was 12! )

Empty Words

He says he loves me
He says he cares
My stomachs doing summersaults

But deep inside I wonder…
Are these just empty words?

He says he'll be with me for all time
And that he'll always just be mine
My eyes are sparkling with the joy

But deep inside I wonder…
Are these just empty words?

Am I just a toy I wonder…
Something to pass the time
I can't help but dread
When he talks about his ex girlfriend

Even though
My heart says no
I can't help but wonder…
Is he trying to get her back?
Was he ever really mine?
Or was that twinkle in his eyes
Just her in the back of his mind
Is he thinking of me or her
Now tears start to fill my eyes
And my vision becomes a blur

Now as the tears start to flow down my face
Deep inside I wonder…
Were they ALWAYS
Just empty words

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 01:00 PM
Whoops I posted twice O.o... how did that happen?

firmbeliever
Oct 24, 2007, 01:06 PM
Very deep! And at 12?
Was this about a real relationship?

You can edit and delete one post.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 01:12 PM
No it wasn't... it was just something that popped into my head. This was the first poem I ever wrote. Most of my poems are like that... just ideas that come into my head. Everyone always thinks they are about me cause and I qoute from someone who critiqued me "there's so much emotion in them".

firmbeliever
Oct 24, 2007, 01:14 PM
Thanks for sharing your first ever poem.:)
I read you were publishing some of your work, is it all poems?

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 01:18 PM
You I'm writing two novels ("The Wars of Elf Wood" and "Arra") but I'm also writing a poetry book with all my poems over the years and I'm almost done... it's 66 pages long right now. I'm trying to hunt down some old poems and write new ones and I'm having teachers critique my poems so I know what I need to change if I need to. The last thing I'll need to do when I'm done putting it together is paint the cover. A friend of mine is going to help me get it published after that.

firmbeliever
Oct 24, 2007, 01:30 PM
WoW!Impressive.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 01:34 PM
:o really?

Depressed in MO
Oct 24, 2007, 01:57 PM
Do you paint or do any other creative work DiMO?
Please do show us some if you wish, and when you have the time...

BiWi,
Anything you would like to share....I love nature poems a lot.

I used to write poems all the time when I was younger (age 10-15). I have never been really great at art (except for maybe the imagination in my head). Nowadays, my creative works consist of finger painting with my children, or coloring in a Spongebob coloring book with my children.

My oldest daughter brings home her art work from school and she is very bright I must say. We usually end up framing her work because it is so nice and neat. If I had the means to put up on this site, I would. Unfortunately, I only have access to AMHD at work.

cal823
Oct 24, 2007, 03:04 PM
Welcome to the new people in the thread!
Biwicc, your flower painting and your poem are awesome!
Hehe, I wish I was a good painter, but I'm crap at it, and I've only really ever done one painting that I actually like.
Anyway, be good to see more of your art/poems!
Also, what kind of novels are they? By the titles I'm guessing fantasy
I used to like writing stories and stuff but I gave that up because I like writing poems more

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 03:21 PM
Hey everyone... :)

Hi, BiWi!

I'm so glad that you accepted the invitation and decided to join us here! It's a great place to be! No baiting, fighting and arguing going on here, just a mutual respect and support for each other and what we do in the visual, literary and performing arts.

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 03:24 PM
[QUOTE=chek101]

Painting number one looks like the girl off ofthe cover of the National Geographic book that I have at my house. Very neat.

And, a big greetings and WELCOME to this thread to you DeMO! :)

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 03:59 PM
Hey, Jan!

I really liked what you wrote on the "Self Esteem" thread! Here is a quote from some of what you wrote:


Originally Posted by jrebel7
Everything is relative. I love looking at people's bone structure and find beauty in that. The eyes open one up to be loved. If you think about the people you think are pretty and secure, look at them with different eyes. Are they physically beautiful by the world's standards or do you think they are beautiful because they laugh and make you feel good and are kind hearted and that makes them pretty.

I was going to post what I am now on that thread. But, here would seem to be a more appropriate place because of the artistic nature of the outlook on it.

When I look at people, I too put much credence into what I see in the bone structure of a person's face, or "mask" as we might call it in singing terminology. I already pointed that out to Carla earlier on this thread.

Reading what you wrote above also makes me think of the guys in the local barbershop singing group that I am now directing. Most of the guys are old, gray, fat, etc. By the world's standards, not really really very pleasing to the eye. But, they become beautiful even on the outside because of what you see and find on the inside...

For me, there is hardly a finer group of guys around to be with. They are incredibly funny! And, are very supportive of each other no matter what physical or psychological issues we might have. Also, when we sing together, the sound that is produced almost transcends the idea as to what beauty is... it is almost indescribable. The feeling, the emotion, the unity and feeling of oneness and belonging...

Sometimes people don't know what they are missing in life, because they haven't been there yet!

I mean that especially in terms of knowing how to appreciate and appreciating the beauty in people and things of this world and beyond.

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 06:04 PM
Hey, Jan!

I really liked what you wrote on the "Self Esteem" thread! Here is a quote from some of what you wrote: I was going to post what I am now on that thread. But, here would seem to be a more appropriate place because of the artistic nature of the outlook on it.

When I look at people, I too put much credence into what I see in the bone structure of a person's face, or "mask" as we might call it in singing terminology. I already pointed that out to Carla earlier on this thread.

The feeling, the emotion, the unity and feeling of oneness and belonging...

Sometimes people don't know what they are missing in life, because they haven't been there yet!

I mean that especially in terms of knowing how to appreciate and appreciating the beauty in people and things of this world and beyond.

Hi there!
I appreciate what you posted. So much emphasis is placed on just "looks" in our society. When a person is able to look beyond that, one sees the true beauty of an individual. I have been in conversations with a person and they say something negative about someone's looks and I can honestly say to them, "I never noticed. I just know their smile lights up my world!" or other comments because that is what I notice. (I have not always had this way of looking at life and admit I have been guilty of enjoying just viewing a person who is very pleasing to the eye! LOL). I know some of this comes with just living life. I met some people from school one night not long ago at a restaurant. The guy we were invited there to see, I had dated in school. He was in from out of town and was in AA. He made the statement, "Don't you wish we could do high school all over again?" He was being very introspective. I had to honestly say no because I, at that time had so many insecurities although as I stated in an earlier post on "Self-Esteem" thread, no one knew that about me. He then said, "No, I mean "and know what we know now." It is an interesting thought but I don't think I could have ever known certain things about myself without just living life as it presents itself.

As with art, each individual brings with them certain attributes. It is up to them to open up and share them with others so they are visible and up to us to draw those attributes out. I think of my pencil drawings. I begin with one tiny mark on a page, getting 4 to 9 strokes per point before chosing another pencil and work anywhere from 3 to 52 hours thus far on a piece. Each mark defines and redefines that character or animal or structure. It is up to me to bring that out in that piece of art. People are art! We are in the process of becoming a finished creation.

The feeling, the emotion, the unity and feeling of oneness and belonging... as you said in this post, says a lot. We all are seeking those feelings. I in no way minimize how one feels when feeling "out of the loop" or "out of step" with the rest of the people around us. My last supervisor said, "You just march to the beat of your own drum". She smiled and meant it as a compliment and I smiled and had to agree. I have felt that way most of my life and may share in a PM why later sometime but I have turned that to an advantage in becoming very much an individualist (although being mindful to be complient when it is the correct thing to do) in my thinking and caring and loving. When one can take a negative and turn it into a positive, what a victory!

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 06:08 PM
ya I'm writting two novels ("The Wars of Elf Wood" and "Arra") but I'm also writting a poetry book with all my poems over the years and I'm almost done... it's 66 pages long right now. I'm trying to hunt down some old poems and write new ones and I'm having teachers critique my poems so I know what I need to change if I need to. The last thing I'll need to do when I'm done putting it together is paint the cover. A friend of mine is going to help me get it published after that.

Hi there!
So glad to see you on this thread! I hope you enjoy it as much as I have and do!! Some really great people are here and look... here you are!! :)

Keep writing, sharing, caring, and loving... and love who you are and who you are becoming!!

I am a better person for having been in contact with these artists. I look forward to many more posts from you!

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 06:25 PM
J -

Yes it does sound very very time consuming, and i surely wouldn't have the patience for something like that. Beautiful though.
In the states I call MO home, only been to OK once, and I thought it was gorgeous. And actualy found an Art class here on post for drawing/painting so I believe I'm going to start that up as soon as possible! I CANNOT WAIT
as for my drawings now, i've been just a little discouraged and haven't even attempted anything else yet :(

I was born in Joplin, MO. Still have lots of family there and Springfield, Kansas City, St. Louis but here I am in OK now and was basically raised here.

Please be encouraged and not discouraged! You have a lot of talent but am sure your time is busy and to create, one sometimes needs uninterrupted time and with a little one or little ones, time is precious! Classes would be great. That gives you a specific time out of your day you can concentrate on just your art! Keep the excitement going and I look forward to more posts from you! I appreciated your nice comments on my earlier post and on my jewelry!

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 06:26 PM
Hey FB,
We keep missing each other lately on the thread! My schedule has changed a bit the last few days! Keep creating. Always glad to read your posts!

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 06:28 PM
welcome to the new people in the thread!
Biwicc, your flower painting and your poem are awesome!
hehe, i wish i was a good painter, but im crap at it, and ive only really ever done one painting that i actually like.
anyways, be good to see more of your art/poems!
also, what kind of novels are they? by the titles im guessing fantasy
i used to like writing stories and stuff but i gave that up because i like writing poems more

Cal, any new art pieces? I really have liked the ones you posted. Like your use of color!

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 06:34 PM
DiMO, glad to see you on this thread! I look forward to more postings from you! I have met some really insightful, sensitive people on this thread. Post when you have the time!

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 06:38 PM
Didi!
I know you are busy now but I am missing your posts. I had fun reading your antics with Clough on the thread though earlier. My schedule has been off for a few days also. So when you see 90 posts in a row from me, it is because I have to take advantage of the time allotted right now! :P Good and happy days to you!

cal823
Oct 24, 2007, 07:03 PM
Ello peoples, ummmm jrebel I have a pastel one I did ages ago I'm going to upload later, and I have a few sketches I'm thinking of doing pastel versions of but I'm not sure.
There's a artline drawing that I would upload if it didn't read too much into some of my recent issues and some stupid stuff I did, its an okay drawing, but I'm not sure you guys want to see sumting that describes what I did.

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 07:35 PM
Cal, keep posting your work. Life isn't just about rainbows and lollipops. Sometimes life hits hard and it comes out in our work. It is up to you of course, I am not asking you to submit anything you would not want to share. Sometimes, we must keep things private until we feel it would be healthy to share or helpful to others. I just wanted to touch base. Seems eveyrone is enjoying this thread. Take care!

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 08:47 PM
Hi, Jan!

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 09:16 PM
Hi there Craig!

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 09:24 PM
Hi, Jan!

Where did you go? :confused:

I have tried to post this for a bit with no luck. Perhaps my settings are off. I received notificaton of your posts but you were offline. My sister is in from Tenn. And we are having to go through parents home to organize so I have not been on consistently. I just didn't want you to think I was ignoring you!! :) I'm sorry I missed you. Until later then!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 09:34 PM
Hey guys thanks for the support and yes Cal they are fantasy I'm very proud of Arra so far (it's 17 pages so far) and I love my "The Wars of Elf Wood" but I'm at a stand still with it right and need to rewrite several pages (its 67 pages long).

And if anyone would like to here another poem let me know what type and I'll post one, mean while here's another picture of mine. Animal skull on brown paper (chalk and charcoal)

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jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 09:49 PM
BiWi... I like the animal skull. From the photo, the paper almost looks like a thin wood. I will try to post a skull I did in analogous colors but it won't be tonight. I will need to resize it before posting. How are you enjoying this thread?? We are happy you are here.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 24, 2007, 10:03 PM
I really like it I'm glad you guys invited me ^.^

grammadidi
Oct 24, 2007, 11:12 PM
Hi everyone!
Welcome to the new people on the thread. I'm sure you will enjoy the feedback here. BiWi, I really liked the animal skull and your poem was quite good for your age at the time. I look forward to seeing more from you.

Jan, thanks for your emails. It was quite amusing to read that we both had grandson's named Benjamin! My Ben has a twin named Nicholas, a younger brother named Thomas (Tom) and an older sister named Amanda. They all have a step-brother named Matthew. My adopted daughter (who was actually my grand-daughter at birth) is Alexis. Any more similarities?

FB, are you going to post some more? I was wondering, what is your favoured means of artistic expression if you have one?

Cal, I would also be interested in seeing whatever you feel you can post if it is something you are willing to share.

Chek, missing your posts! Erica, hoping to see more from you soon, too, although I do understand how busy you must be.

Craig, where did you go??

Hugs all,
Didi

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 11:17 PM
Hi, everyone! I am here now. Don't know for how long, though. Firm, you and I have some unfinished business on another post. I would like to help you. If you have time, now might be a good time.

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 11:18 PM
Hey guys thanks for the support and yes Cal they are fantasy I'm very proud of Arra so far (it's 17 pages so far) and I love my "The Wars of Elf Wood" but I'm at a stand still with it right and need to rewrite several pages (its 67 pages long).

And if anyone would like to here another poem let me know what type and I'll post one, mean while here's another picture of mine. Animal skull on brown paper (chalk and charcoal)

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Really, it looks almost 3-D! I am wondering how you accomplished that! Paper? I too, thought that it was wood!

firmbeliever
Oct 24, 2007, 11:19 PM
Hey Jan,GrammaDidi and all others here:),

Grammadidi,
I love using acrylic/fabric paints on fabric(outfits) or canvas.
I will try to post one later.

Craig,
I am up for it if you are.

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 11:20 PM
Didi, I was happy to see you had been on the thread. Sorry I missed you! I have a granddaughter whose name is Alexandria which is pretty close to Alexis. They were going to call her Lexie but she goes by Alex. I have a nephew by the name of Matthew. My best friend's son'n name is Nicholas!! Considering all the other things, a little eerie, don't you think?? :) Soul Sister!!

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 11:20 PM
Dear Jan,

I got your email. Thank you! Will respond later. Have some things in the works that just got to get done! I am sure that I am not the only one who has things to get done!

Craig

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 11:22 PM
FB, I will be looking for your post you just mentioned.

Craig, are you here now? Sorry I missed you earlier.

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 11:22 PM
Didi may be just in and out this week, as will I. I believe that she has a guest visiting. I have some obligations to customers which really need to get done.

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 11:25 PM
FB, I will be looking for your post you just mentioned.

Craig, are you here now? Sorry I missed you earlier.

Hey, you know how it is. We take our chances as to who is going to be on here when we come on. I have been frustrated because I had been having a great dialogue with someone who wanted to know about her piano. She returned only briefly. It would be good to finish the dialogue because of others who might have similar questions who search for things like that on the Internet. I suggested to her to let me know some times when she might be on, and I would try to be on at one of the times.

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 11:26 PM
Hey Jan,GrammaDidi and all others here:),
Craig,
I am up for it if you are.

Then, lets do it! I will see you over there! :)

jrebel7
Oct 24, 2007, 11:27 PM
Must be a busy week for eveyrone. I was trying to get to bed a little early tonight but to no avail. Sounds like you are busy with other things so to everyone, I wish you a good night and hope you get lots accomplished!

I am on DSL and sometimes forget to sign out so it appears I am on the thread when I'm not. I look forward to later art discussions. Good night.

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 11:28 PM
I really like it I'm glad you guys invited me ^.^

I hope that you are feeling somewhat better about your situation and the things in your life, now! :)

Clough
Oct 24, 2007, 11:31 PM
Must be a busy week for eveyrone. I was trying to get to bed a little early tonight but to no avail. Sounds like you are busy with other things so to everyone, I wish you a good night and hope you get lots accomplished!

I am on DSL and sometimes forget to sign out so it appears I am on the thread when I'm not. I look forward to later art discussions. Good night.

Good night and sweet dreams! We will be in touch, soon! :)

cal823
Oct 25, 2007, 01:48 AM
I'm really not sure if I should post the picture... im okay with sharing it, just I'm not sure its appropriate to share, its related to this

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/child-teen-health/panadol-paracetamol-143883.html


So I really not sure if I should show it to you guys... soon I will show you some of my other stuff anyway :)

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 02:14 AM
Whatever you decide to do is okay. Remember the little picture that I posted that had me in it?

cal823
Oct 25, 2007, 02:15 AM
Kind of, you that short looking person? (no offense intended! Everyone looks short to me lolz, I'm almost 6 foot and still growing :s)

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 02:33 AM
Well, I'm "almost" six foot, also. 5'9", to be exact! :p

Maybe, if I use the "rack" in the dungeon of an old castle, I will get to six feet! :D I should be easy enough to stretch out at my age!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 09:30 AM
Hey guys how's yer day going?

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 04:11 PM
Hey guys how's yer day going?

Okay, so far. How has yours been? :)

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 05:54 PM
Pretty good!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 08:48 PM
Hey everyone I wanted to show another poem. This one's a bit dark as it's about child abuse but it is one I'm very proud of cause a published poet told me she loved my work when I read it at a poetry read against domestic violence and sexual abuse.

Darkness

She's alone again
Waiting for him
She wishes for light
Her safe haven
She wishes her mother
Would hear her words
But she just says
To stop her lies
Regardless the bruises on her skin and soul
Say other wise
She hears the creaks on the wooden floor
And his footsteps as he reaches her door
She curls into a tighter ball
As she hears him waiting in the hall
Now he comes in
Wearing a grin
Soon she smells his rancid breath
Her nose curls up at the smell
She trembles as she feels his hands
And hears his drunken laughter
She lets out screams that are not heard
As she tries to escape… but is just hurt
She feels his fists
On her delicate skin
Her body she tries to defend
But finds she just wishes it would all end
He grants her wish
By the end of the night
He puts an end
To her six year old life
And the darkness consumes her

What do you guys think?

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 09:03 PM
It is dark but sometimes life is dark. I worked for Department of Human Services for a few years and know these stories happen more often than most people realize. Anytime you put this much thought into your writing, you have the right to be proud of it. Was this written in free style?

Have any of your poems been published? Is your passion more about writing or painting?

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 09:12 PM
Hey everyone I wanted to show another poem. This one's a bit dark as it's about child abuse but it is one I'm very proud of cause a published poet told me she loved my work when I read it at a poetry read against domestic violence and sexual abuse.

Darkness

She's alone again
Waiting for him
She wishes for light
Her safe haven
She wishes her mother
Would hear her words
But she just says
To stop her lies
Regardless the bruises on her skin and soul
Say other wise
She hears the creaks on the wooden floor
And his footsteps as he reaches her door
She curls into a tighter ball
As she hears him waiting in the hall
Now he comes in
Wearing a grin
Soon she smells his rancid breath
Her nose curls up at the smell
She trembles as she feels his hands
And hears his drunken laughter
She lets out screams that are not heard
As she tries to escape… but is just hurt
She feels his fists
On her delicate skin
Her body she tries to defend
But finds she just wishes it would all end
He grants her wish
By the end of the night
He puts an end
To her six year old life
And the darkness consumes her

What do you guys think?

It is a touch of reality. I am sure that many people can identify with it. Child abuse is often something that is dark and held-in secret that can lead to horrible endings.

I would like to see what you might write in a poem about light and hope in a similar situation.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 09:15 PM
It was free style but I did my best to give it rhythm. I've never had a poem publish but I have won poetry contests and have been to a lot of readings, as I've said before though I plan to publish a book of all my poems. As for my passion... it's writing ^.^. I've wanted to write since I was a little girl in kidnergarten... I decided that after we had to write a little book about pumpkins.

When I was between ages of 9-12 I would write just short stories (every halloween I would have a new story to tell the other kids in my trailer park, the only one they wanted to hear every year was werewolf prince). Now I'm a lover of poetry and novels, I even have my own mini library of 576 books ^.^

I actually haven't written any light poems accept in love. Most of my poems can be summed up in the three catigories I have in my book; society, love, and dark. (truth be told there are more love then anything else and I mean the bad sides of love and good, broken hearts and mended ones)

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 09:20 PM
Would you mind putting one or more of your short Halloween stories on here?

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 09:23 PM
Well I can't remember any except werewolf prince... cause it was a popular one. It's kind of corny though cause I wrote it when I was 9 *blush* it's half horror and half romance

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 09:31 PM
Well I can't remember any except werewolf prince... cause it was a popular one. It's kind of corny though cause I wrote it when I was 9 *blush* it's half horror and half romance

That's okay! Please just do it! It would help to expand this thread out more and maybe attract others to it who think this thread is only for the visual arts!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 09:34 PM
Uh well ^.^ okay... it's at least three pages long on Microsoft though... is it okay to post that long?

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 09:35 PM
Hi Craig!

Hi BiWi!
I said the other day I would try to post some skulls I had done. They were required in a class - a study in analogous colors. They were done fairly quickly so not much depth to them. Just different.

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 09:36 PM
You know, I just had another idea! (Perish the thought! It's just not possible! ) Maybe now would be a good time to start a new thread about favorite short Halloween stories.

What does anyone think?

It's not that they couldn't also be posted on this thread in keeping with the integrity of the thread. But, maybe such a thread would also attract others who are writers.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 09:36 PM
Oh! Those look great jrebel! The colors work so well together! Are those pastels or chalk? From the texture it looks like one of the two. And that's a great idea clough! Cause I wouldn't want to take up a lot of space on this thread. We could present a link on the halloween thread to this one too so people could check this out too.

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 09:39 PM
BiWi, they are pastels!

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 09:41 PM
Uh well ^.^ okay... it's atleast three pages long on microsoft though... is it okay to post that long?

You might have to put it on two or three posts since there is a limit to the number of characters or words (not sure) that can be in a single post. But, that would be okay.

You could try it on this thread first and see how it goes, because there just seems to be only so many of us on this thread. We would wait for you to finish it so that it is contiguous from one post to the next.

Then, if there is a post started about favorite short Halloween stories, maybe you could post it on there, too!

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 09:44 PM
oh! Those look great jrebel! The colors work so well together! Are those pastels or chalk? From the texture it looks like one of the two. And that's a great idea clough!! Cause I wouldn't want to take up alot of space on this thread. We could present a link on the halloween thread to this one too so people could check this out too.

Thank you for your affirmation! That is one of the reasons for starting another thread - to lead people to this one! :)

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 09:46 PM
BiWi, they are pastels!

You may beat me to an answer to this one. But, were those done with a brush? Also, they have somewhat of a "glow" to them? I am wondering why?

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 09:47 PM
Jrebel, I envy you I really do T-T I can't blend pastels at all! I do the kind of pastel drawings where you draw with a kind of spot pattern (I don't remember what it's called) the same kind of drawing as Monet used. Here's mine... your so much better then me! And to think mine was done over two class periods! Everyone tells me it's good, but I still think I could have done WORLDS better

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BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 09:50 PM
On the subject of my halloween story. I haven't told the story since I moved from the trailer park I lived in to the house I'm in now which was when I was 12. So I'll spend the night trying to put it together and post it in the morning is that okay?

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 09:50 PM
You may beat me to an answer to this one. But, were those done with a brush? Also, they have somewhat of a "glow" to them? I am wondering why?

No, these were not done with a brush and the glow is just the use of the colors against each other. :)

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 09:55 PM
jrebel, I envy you I really do T-T I can't blend pastels at all! I do the kind of pastel drawings where you draw with a kind of spot pattern (I don't remember what it's called) the same kind of drawing as Monet used. Here's mine... your so much better then me! And to think mine was done over two class periods! Everyone tells me it's good, but I still think I could have done WORLDS better

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This is great (Your art piece)! I am not to be envied, especially working in pastels! ;) It has been years and years. After you posted the skull the other day, I had just said I would resize and send so did. I think artists always think they could do better and we can usually see each mistake we have made but only because it is not what we fully intended. I imagine it is the same in music isn't it Craig? I would think each performance, although one might feel satisfied with it can always find ways of improving. That is part of what drives us... trying to improve our technique or working harder to touch lives for good.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:00 PM
Lol it is true. My art teacher said there have been artists who have stayed friends with some of the people they sell their paintings to and these people have been known to just start trying to fix the painting right there in the person's home! I know I REALLY nit pick my replica of "Small Cowper Madonna" and I do the same thing with the music I write too! I still think I could have done better with my pastel though... it was the first one I ever did.

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:03 PM
On the subject of my halloween story. I haven't told the story since I moved from the trailer park I lived in to the house I'm in now which was when I was 12. So I'll spend the night trying to put it together and post it in the morning is that okay?

Okay! I'm going to start the new thread. It will be in the writing area? But, that area doesn't get looked at all that much. :confused: Maybe I should post it in the Holidays & Observances section. There really isn't very much in there at all. What do y'all think?

Also, what do y'all think about adding Halloween jokes as being included in the thread?

Title could be: "Wanted: Your Favorite Short Halloween Stories and Jokes!"

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:06 PM
That sounds great! We should keep it in writing though cause though the section is not looked at much don't forget when someone presses "Answer" then it takes them to pages of all the most recent questions. And the people who do write would look in the writing section before anything else.

Then again holidays would make sense too but I'm not sure how many people would look there. I posted a question about what people do to celebrate Samhain (wiccan term for halloween) and only one person answered.

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 10:07 PM
Okay! I'm going to start the new thread. It will be in the writing area? But, that area doesn't get looked at all that much. :confused: Maybe I should post it in the Holidays & Observances section. There really isn't very much in there at all. What do y'all think?

Also, what do y'all think about adding Halloween jokes as being included in the thread?

Title could be: "Wanted: Your Favorite Short Halloween Stories and Jokes!"


"Holidays & Observances" section I would think. It would be a thread that would have a long life, I think but then I am new to this stuff! LOL :p

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:13 PM
Some time ago on this thread, I posted an idea about maybe having images of where a person does there art of whatever kind. It could be a room with a comfy couch or chair, a room with a easel in it, a place by a river, field, woods or forest outside where a person might gain inspiration. I wonder if that is ever going to fly here...

I do have some pictures of my living room with two of my three grand pianos in it that I would like to post sometime and also, some pictures of places and instruments that I have played. But, it will take me awhile to find them. Not tonight, though...

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:16 PM
I paint at school ^.^ well until I get some supplies anyway. I've been wondering though... what if I took pictures of my painting I'm doing at school right now as it progresses. We are learning to paint like they did during the renassance. The first few steps are done but I'd like to show you guys how far along I am. I won't be able to show it though till I go back to school Monday though.

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:17 PM
Thank you both for answering! :)

So, it looks like the holiday section would be the better choice! If Administration decides to move it to the writing section, (as they have been known to move posts around) then that is there choice. :eek:

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:18 PM
lol sounds good ^.^

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:20 PM
I paint at school ^.^ well until I get some supplies anyways. I've been wondering though... what if I took pictures of my painting I'm doing at school right now as it progresses. We are learning to paint like they did during the renassance. The first few steps are done but I'd like to show you guys how far along I am. I won't be able to show it though till I go back to school monday though.

I think that would be awesome and add an entirely new dynamic to this thread! We could then discuss more in depth and also with examples, as to how a work of art is created!

It would work that way with my refinishing projects and also the thumb piano kits that I make.

Great suggestion, BiWi!! :D

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 10:20 PM
Some time ago on this thread, I posted an idea about maybe having images of where a person does there art of whatever kind. It could be a room with a comfy couch or chair, a room with a easel in it, a place by a river, field, woods or forest outside where a person might gain inspiration. I wonder if that is ever gonna fly here...

I do have some pictures of my living room with two of my three grand pianos in it that I would like to post sometime and also, some pictures of places and instruments that I have played. But, it will take me awhile to find them. Not tonight, though...

I remember that suggestion and I have been waiting for you to post. :) I was telling someone about you the other day and your pianos and other instruments. I think it would give a warm touch to the thread. I loved the idea. Seems the thread has hit a bit of a lull and maybe that is why no one responded much but may just be a busy time for some, like Didi, I know she is busy for a few days. My sister is in from Tenn. Craig, why don't you be the first and many will follow your lead. I love the idea! I loved seeing the photo of you with the (virginal) I believe it was called? Just wish it had been larger image. I couldn't see your face! You sort of looked like I thought you might however. It was a nice personal touch! Did you say it was something like a harpsichord or am I not remembering correctly? Forgive if I don't have my facts straight. I believe it was quite late the night I read that! LOL I get a little silly after about 1:30 a.m.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:22 PM
I thought it might be a good idea ^.^ plus then I could ask you guys what else I could do to it! I could post a picture of how Michelangolo painted it and show my replica! I've been so frustrated with the painting lately, I need the help!

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:23 PM
Jan... you still there? :confused: I'm sensing an awesome, creative, helpful and inspiring post from you coming on! Could be here, or on another thread! :)

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:24 PM
Oh another question I've been meaning to ask would dance be considered a type of art? Same with jewelry making cause those are two other things I do (I've been buying movies on how to belly dance cause I've always been intregued by it and it's so much fun! I learned how to make hemp jewelry from a friend.)

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 10:25 PM
Jan...you still there? :confused: I'm sensing an awesome, creative, helpful and inspiring post from you coming on! Could be here, or on another thread! :)

Yipper! I am here but awesome, creative, helpful and inspiring post from me!? :p

How long do you have? LOL

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 10:30 PM
Craig, how are the Thumb Pianos coming along??

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:36 PM
I remember that suggestion and I have been waiting for you to post. :) I was telling someone about you the other day and your pianos and other instruments. I think it would give a warm touch to the thread. I loved the idea. Seems the thread has hit a bit of a lull and maybe that is why no one responded much but may just be a busy time for some, like Didi, I know she is busy for a few days. My sister is in from Tenn. Craig, why don't you be the first and many will follow your lead. I love the idea! I loved seeing the photo of you with the (virginal) I believe it was called? Just wish it had been larger image. I couldn't see your face! You sort of looked like I thought you might however. It was a nice personal touch! Did you say it was something like a harpsichord or am I not remembering correctly? Forgive if I don't have my facts straight. I believe it was quite late the night I read that! LOL I get a little silly after about 1:30 a.m.

Thanks, Jan! I just have to find the photos first! Some are already in the computer... somewhere! :mad: The others I would have to scan into the computer... after finding them in many photo albums or (sigh) envelopes. The good news is that all of my photos are at least some what organized and not just all thrown into a box like a lot of people do.

A year ago at Christmas, when my daughter was back from California, we made sure to go through all of the photos that we could find and at least categorize them. I can remember when my mom and also one of my uncles died back in 1997, going over to my cousins house and helping them to choose pictures for the visitation and funeral. Almost all of the photos were loosely placed in a box and unorganized. My mother just happened to die shortly after my uncle.

I did not have so much of a problem with finding photos significant concerning my mother when she passed. When I was in college, as a gift for Christmas for my parents, I got as many photos as I could together and organized them in albums and gave them to my parents as gifts.

My point to saying all of this about the photo arranging is that, it really pays off when you have the photos of events, your loved ones and your activities organized for the time when you will need to use them.

I have thought about re-sizing the picture of me with the Virginal. Just got to get to it. I do have some reservations about posting my picture on the Internet. They are good reasons, but I would not want to share them as part of this thread because they are very personal.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:38 PM
You know I feel blondish for asking but.. is Clough Craigh and Jan jrebel? O.o... Just wondering so I don't end up lost >.< (my name's Jessica by the way)

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:40 PM
Craig, how are the Thumb Pianos coming along???

We'll get there! It won't take me that long once I get to them. Matter of fact, probably no more than one day. It's just that I have this old upright piano in my garage that belongs to a customer a couple hundred miles away, the work on which absolutely must be completed in the next few weeks. It is a huge project and is driving me crazy because of everything there is to do! Much has already been done, and much still has to be done.

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 10:44 PM
Thanks, Jan! I just have to find the photos first! Some are already in the computer... somewhere! :mad: The others I would have to scan into the computer... after finding them in many photo albums or (sigh) envelopes. The good news is that all of my photos are at least some what organized and not just all thrown into a box like a lot of people do.

A year ago at Christmas, when my daughter was back from California, we made sure to go through all of the photos that we could find and at least categorize them. I can remember when my mom and also one of my uncles died back in 1997, going over to my cousins house and helping them to choose pictures for the visitation and funeral. Almost all of the photos were loosely placed in a box and unorganized. My mother just happened to die shortly after my uncle.

I did not have so much of a problem with finding photos significant concerning my mother when she passed. When I was in college, as a gift for Christmas for my parents, I got as many photos as I could together and organized them in albums and gave them to my parents as gifts.

My point to saying all of this about the photo arranging is that, it really pays off when you have the photos of events, your loved ones and your activities organized for the time when you will need to use them.

I have thought about re-sizing the picture of me with the Virginal. Just got to get to it. I do have some reservations about posting my picture on the Internet. They are good reasons, but I would not want to share them as part of this thread because they are very personal.

Craig, if you ever want to share your reasons, you have my e-mail address or PM. I was hoping you would resize the picture but you could always send it via e-mail.

Sorting photographs is a job. I made a CD when my Dad passed away two years ago and we had it set to music. It was a job but thankfully, I have scanned tons of photos which helps but the hard copies?? I admit I do not have them as I would like to have them!

I too have reservations about posting certain things. I will PM those reasons at a later time. Let me know when you you have low number in your messages and I will. Awhile back, you were pretty well packed with messages helping someone on a thread!

I know about the one daughter. Do you have more than one child? I have two.

The gift you gave your parents was a treasure. Takes a lot of time!! I would like to see a pic though when you feel good about it.

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:45 PM
Oh another question I've been meaning to ask would dance be considered a type of art? Same with jewelry making cause those are two other things I do (I've been buying movies on how to belly dance cause I've always been intregued by it and it's so much fun! I learned how to make hemp jewelry from a friend.)

Yes, dance is an art! It is part of the performing arts. Jan can tell you about jewelry making. It is definitely an art! Please look back about, what?. maybe four or five pages. Jan has made some really groovy stuff using some very unusual materials!

Belly dance is also part of the performing arts.

I'm going to add some to this post in a little bit, because I have an interesting story as to what is an art. But, I wanted to make sure that you knew that I was on your question, though!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:46 PM
What do you make Clough? I never did look at everything in the thread before I got on. What do you make and can a see a pic?

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 10:48 PM
you know I feel blondish for asking but.. is Clough Craigh and Jan jrebel? O.o.... Just wondering so I don't end up lost >.< (my name's Jessica by the way)

Don't feel bad for feeling kind of blondish!! I am kind of blondish!! :p Jrebel7 is Jan, yes.

I've been lost several times on the thread but always find my way back. It is the blessing of being blonde! No one expects you to know your way around so they are always willing to help you! LOL :p ;) :)

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:49 PM
BiWi and Jan,

I think the two of you would have a bash discussing jewelry :D

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:51 PM
I'm off to start the Halloween thread. Will be back to make other responses in a little while.

I will let you know when it is completed. Please check it out, and if you have any suggestion as to changes that might be made, please let me know. Thank you!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:52 PM
^.^ well the only thing I know how to make with jewelry is hemp jewelry. It's so much fun to make! And I've got so many different kinds of beads! Glass beads are marvilous but they are so hard to put on hemp.

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 10:54 PM
BIWI, post some of your jewelry pieces. I posted some earlier at Craig stated. I am always interested in jewelry. I started collecting rings when I was in 10th grade! I have well over 100. All kinds. I am looking for one kind in particular and have searched all over. When Picasso was in London, I believe it was, his girlfriend wore a ring that burned incense. I am not sure what page my jewelry is posted.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:56 PM
That ring sounds beautiful! Again I can only make hemp jewelry so none of it is that impressive, but I do own some beautiful jewelry. My favorite is the pendent I bought, it's the symbol of the goddess carved out of Amethyst, my favorite gem.

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 10:57 PM
I'm off to start the Halloween thread. Will be back to make other responses in a little while.

I will let you know when it is completed. Please check it out, and if you have any suggestion as to changes that might be made, please let me know. Thank you!

Ok Craig. I am getting off here for awhile also. I will check back in a bit also.

Later, BiWi!

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 10:59 PM
you know I feel blondish for asking but.. is Clough Craigh and Jan jrebel? O.o.... Just wondering so I don't end up lost >.< (my name's Jessica by the way)

Yes, I am Craig, jrebel7 is Jan, grammadidi is Christine, erlobenauer is Erica, firm and Cal, not sure... Thanks for sharing yours, Jessica! :)

We have sort of evolved to using our first names here, one of the reasons I am sure is that artists of various types are sharing something very personal with each other. If someone decides not to use their first name, then that is there choice and should be respected.

I'm off to start the new thread...

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 10:59 PM
Here's my icon enlarged, that's the necklace, I never take this thing off! ^.^

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Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 11:17 PM
It's posted! (But, I accidentally left on a quote mark! Rats! I'm kind of a perfectionist!)

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/holidays-observances/wanted-your-favorite-short-halloween-stories-jokes-145095.html#post687860

Please let me know if the post is okay? Thank you, kindly!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 11:21 PM
I already checked it out ^.^ it's great craige! I swear it will be the end of me though before I can remember the names of the characters in Werewolf Prince... I hope I actually have it ready by tomorrow >.<

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 11:23 PM
It's posted! (But, I accidentally left on a quote mark! Rats! I'm kind of a perfectionist!)

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/holidays-observances/wanted-your-favorite-short-halloween-stories-jokes-145095.html#post687860

Please let me know if the post is okay? Thank you, kindly!

Oh!! You are good! Can't believe I had never heard the funnies you posted! I must live in a vacuum. :p

jrebel7
Oct 25, 2007, 11:27 PM
I know!! I am leaving myself wide open by that last remark!! It is about the time I start getting really silly so I better go. Have a great night! Looking forward to checking out the new thread tomorrow Craig! Good night!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 25, 2007, 11:30 PM
I need to be getting to sleep too... I'll talk to you guys in the morning. Merry part everyone!

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 11:40 PM
Okay, then goodnight and sweet dreams to the both of you! I look forward to continued dialogue on this thread! It's not going to die. But, just may need to evolve some... :)

Clough
Oct 25, 2007, 11:43 PM
[QUOTE=BiWiccanAndProud]I already checked it out ^.^ it's great craige! I swear it will be the end of me though before I can remember the names of the characters in Werewolf Prince... I hope I actually have it ready by tomorrow >.

cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 12:41 AM
By the way my real name is sean :)
And cal is my nickname because some chicks in school thought I looked like the posh guy in the movie titanic, and so they called me cal from then on lolz
Will post some more of my art soon :)
U guys stuff is awesome, biwiccan your poem rules
And that skull thing in analogy thingy colours is awesome

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 12:44 AM
Are you feeling any better, Sean?

Jan, are you there?

jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 12:46 AM
Yep, I am here Craig! I just popped on. I tend to stay off after 1:30 just because I get silly. I was on my way to bed but always like to pop back in and read posts.

jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 12:51 AM
Sean, glad you liked the skulls! Looking forward to more of your posts! This is a great thread to be a part of!

jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 12:58 AM
Sean, Craig, are you still out there? Did I get lost again!! LOL

cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 01:02 AM
I'm still here, ill post some of my work later when I'm allowed to use the computer for non homework stuff again. There's a cool mcr inspired pastel one :)
I mite also go through my collection of little poem lines and ideas I wrote down and try to make them into proper poems (I keep paper next to my bed because I often have sudden ideas/inpirations for poems come to me when I'm trying to get some sleep
Want to see more of you guys stuff soon pleeeasseee

jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 01:06 AM
Seam. Just keep posting! I use to have a pencil by my bed and at 2:00 in the morning, too sleepy to get up and get paper, would write poems on the wall. Well, I painted some time ago, so needless to say, I don't do that anymore. I am sure I miss some creative moments but my wall looks clean! LOL

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 01:10 AM
Seam. just keep posting! I just to have a pencil by my bed and at 2:00 in the morning, too sleepy to get up and get paper, would write poems on the wall. LOL

Beethoven did the same thing when writing his music. I would suppose that the walls and shutters that he wrote on might now be priceless!

jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 01:27 AM
Sean, you and Craig and I might some day be really famous who knows! We just need to keep plugging away, a day at a time and see what wonderful surprises are ahead of us!

cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 01:30 AM
I hope that in like 20 years, when I'm 36, there's a thread on askmehelpdesk called
The Artist in You continued (#2365)
And we are all still talking and posting and sharing art, and that there are more wonderful artists in it :)

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 01:35 AM
i hope that in like 20 years, when im 36, theres a thread on askmehelpdesk called
The Artist in You continued (#2365)
and we are all still talking and posting and sharing art, and that there are more wonderful artists in it :)

That's funny, Sean! :D Maybe it will be post #1,345,809! We can only hope! I like your humor! :)

Craig

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 01:37 AM
And, it all started with firmbeliever's vision and attitude towards the positive! :)

firmbeliever
Oct 26, 2007, 01:38 AM
I am just updating here, whew.. you guys have been busy;)
I loved both of the skulls, Jan and Jess!

Love to see some more pieces from all of you Jan,Craig,Grammadidi,Sean,Jess,Chek,Meterre and all others... :)

cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 01:42 AM
That's funny, Sean!! :D Maybe it will be post #1,345,809! We can only hope! I like your humor! :)

Craig

I'm going to save that exact number lolz and in 20 years we will see how accurate it is :)

jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 01:42 AM
Good night and sweet dreams. I am fading! See you tomorrow on the web! Glad to see you FB!! Glad you liked the skulls! :)

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 01:44 AM
I am just updating here, whew..you guys have been busy;)
I loved both of the skulls, Jan and Jess!

Love to see some more pieces from all of you Jan,Craig,Grammadidi,Sean,Jess,Chek,Meterre and all others.....:)

Yes, we have all been busy...

But, the really great part is, that we are all artists and that things will come around to a sort of beginning again! It's just a great big circle. That's part of the beauty of being an artist! We all know where where we're coming from! :)

I'm sure that you know what I mean! ;)

firmbeliever
Oct 26, 2007, 01:49 AM
;)

I am so glad I started this thread... I had not imagined this happening when I started it.. :)

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 01:52 AM
;)

I am so glad I started this thread...I had not imagined this happening when I started it..:)

It could go on for a very long time! I am glad that you started this thread! It is a place for certain types of us to share! We are one, here! :)

cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 01:58 AM
One! We are one! OoOoOoOoOoOoOo
I'm going to be in this thread for as long as it exists I reckon, hoping it lasts forever :)

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 02:09 AM
Yes! We are one! It is a good place to be, Sean! You do have friends and people like yourself, here!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 07:27 AM
Lol I'm glad I'm part of this ^.^. And wow I didn't know that other people did the paper by their bed thing. I carry a note pad with me everywhere too cause that's when I get most of my ideas, just looking at my surroundings.

startover22
Oct 26, 2007, 07:37 AM
Good Morning sweets...
This thread is a wonderful place. I enjoy it every time I step in! Nice work... all of you!

templelane
Oct 26, 2007, 08:07 AM
Here's my contribution to the thread, I've been too shy 'till now so don't be mean! :o

Also this is my first attatchment attempt so there is a high muck up possibility

templelane
Oct 26, 2007, 08:08 AM
Wow I'm shocked it actually worked! I haven't watermarked it because I don't own the image rights anyway.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 08:16 AM
Omg that's beautiful! Did you do that Templelane? Is that water color?

templelane
Oct 26, 2007, 08:22 AM
Sorry should have said it's acrylic on canvas. Although acylic can enter some watercolour competitions (which I will never, ever understand). I did it because I wanted the image for a poster but it hadn't been produced and I couldn't be bothered to find a printers to do it for me.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 08:24 AM
Well it's beautiful! You are much better with acrylics then I am! Those paints drive me nuts cause you can never know if it's really dry before you try to put paint over it. I perfer tempra myself... and my teacher is teaching me egg tempra. But again beautiful painting ^.^. Would you mind if I put it as a background on my computer? I'm a cat fanatic.

templelane
Oct 26, 2007, 08:30 AM
Sure I don't mind. The trick for knowing if it's dry is to tilt the paper towards a light. It's more relective when it's still wet. I have never used tempra, my school wasn't very adventurous with what materials we could use- oils were banned so I never learnt how to use them. They banned acylics for awhile as well. Don't get any time to paint these days but if I ever do I'm going to try those mediums out.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 08:41 AM
Well even when you tilt it and see a reflection it doesn't mean it's dry. I've started painting shadows on my painting and then the paint under it comes up even if it looked dry.

jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 08:55 AM
Good Morning sweets.....
This thread is a wonderful place. I enjoy it every time I step in!! Nice work....all of you!

Glad to see you posting here again! I agree this thread is a wonderful place and people like you make it that way. You are always so kind! Hope to see more posts from you. I know there are a lot of threads out there but I am always happy to see you post here!

startover22
Oct 26, 2007, 08:58 AM
Glad to see you posting here again! I agree this thread is a wonderful place and people like you make it that way. You are always so kind! Hope to see more posts from you. I know there are a lot of threads out there but I am always happy to see you post here!
Thanks... I just pop in and out to see the latest glorious ART you all are posting.
Templelane... holy camoly... wow! Very nice!

jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 09:15 AM
Here's my contribution to the thread, I've been too shy 'till now so don't be mean! :o

also this is my first attatchment attempt so there is a high muck up possibility

Templelane, what an amazing talent you have! Although I understand being shy about posting because I felt that way in the beginning, please don't ever be shy to post on this thread. You did a great job with the attachment.

When I paint, Acrylics are my choice! I used oils for years. They affected my allergies a lot and clean up seemed to take me forever! I paint fast so the drying time on acrylic paints is such a blessing to me.

The perspective you had to achieve with this piece, since the hands and cats were projected forward would have been difficult for me! You did great. Did you work from a photograph?? I am anxious to see more of your work!

This is a great thread to be a part of and I am so grateful to FirmBeliver for starting this thread and for all those who have made this such a warm place to be!!

templelane
Oct 26, 2007, 09:40 AM
Yeah I worked from a photo! I love the fast drying of acrylics, I also like how fresh the colours are. Although sometimes I wish I could get the depth that can be achieved with oils, acylics sometimes seem a bit flat and pop arty.

Do you have any acylics up? I had a look but I only found your necklace (very nice by the way) I got a bit behind on the thread for a bit and forgot where I stopped reading.

I might post some more stuff if I locate pictures, I don't own a most of my stuff and seem to have had poor record keeping!

I would like to second the Firmbeliever thread starter appreciation!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 09:54 AM
I agree with jan you are a wonderful painter templelane I hope you find more of your work soon because you are so good! I envy all your guy's talents my talents are no where near this good yet!

And a third cheers to firmbeliever! And cheers to craige and jan for inviting me to the thread! THANKS AGAIN GUYS ^.^

startover22
Oct 26, 2007, 09:57 AM
I Love Firmy!

jrebel7
Oct 26, 2007, 09:58 AM
Yeah I worked from a photo! I love the fast drying of acrylics, I also like how fresh the colours are. Although sometimes I wish I could get the depth that can be achieved with oils, acylics sometimes seem a bit flat and pop arty.

Do you have any acylics up? I had a look but I only found your necklace (very nice by the way) I got a bit behind on the thread for a bit and forgot where I stopped reading.

I might post some more stuff if I locate pictures, I don't own a most of my stuff and seem to have had poor record keeping!

I would like to second the Firmbeliever thread starter appreciation!

I do have some acrylics posted. Goodness, can't remember for sure which ones. I have an Ostrich Egg posted, an acrylic painting of my son-in-law's dog, Zoe, a Bernese Mt. Dog. and some dipper gourd vases Imade, a Thumb Piano, etc. Most of what I have posted are my pencils. Penicls seem to be my niche! Glad you liked the potato necklace. It was fun but time consuming.

Hopefully will see you on the thread later tonight? Miles to go before I sleep! LOL

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 10:01 AM
Omg you guys got me hyped up somehow ^.^ I want to paint now so bad!! Unfortunately all I have is a sketch pad and nothing to paint on T.T... makes me sad! Guess I could draw though huh ^.^ oh hey is anyone here a fan of Amy Brown or Jessica Galbert?

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 11:34 AM
Okay serious question! Does anyone know anything about painting china? I collect chinese and japanese teasets (Two very nice ones are in my collection so far). Does anyone know if there are kits or anything that come with the china and some paints so that you can paint your own sets? Here's an example (This is my gaisha wear set! I love this thing)

5062

firmbeliever
Oct 26, 2007, 12:40 PM
http://www.potterypainting.co.uk/
fun2make: great craft gifts, low prices (http://www.fun2make.co.uk/)

Jess, try these links.

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 12:46 PM
All of those were more kiddy stuff... and it didn't tell what kind of paints to use. I make a lot of pottery myself but I normally glaze cause the only paints my teacher said you could use to paint glazed or unglazed pottery was acrylic... but it peels off already glazed pottery. If you don't glaze it and paint then it takes forever if the surface of the pot is not completely smooth. Besides I don't think I could make anything with porcelian myself :/ I am just so used to working with earth clay... I've heard porcelian is much softer and harder to work with...

firmbeliever
Oct 26, 2007, 12:47 PM
PAINTS & (http://www.paintsandporcelain.com/)

Porcelain painting (http://www.greatart.co.uk/Porcelain-painting--2195.html)

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 12:52 PM
These are great! Thanks so much! You know I just looked around my room at all my artistic hobbies and I'm wondering if I don't have to many XD

cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 11:11 PM
here's one that I did that is inspired by mcr's black parade album (one of the best bands eva :)
and here's just a random page out of my sketchbook :)
like to see more of you guys stuff, you all so talented :)

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 11:14 PM
Hi, Sean!

Great and interesting stuff as usual!

Are you okay?

Craig

cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 11:16 PM
Uummmm I guess I'm okay, I'm not great, but I'm all right I guess.
Thanks for caring :)

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 11:23 PM
Does doing art help you to work out things that concern you in life?

cal823
Oct 26, 2007, 11:25 PM
Kind of, it can be good just to put the feelings onto paper at times, and it is relaxing.

Clough
Oct 26, 2007, 11:29 PM
I can remember when I was your age and younger, I would shut all the doors that I could to the big room where our electric organ was and just wail away with improvising on chords to express myself how I felt about things. I would make myself cry. It was a great tension reliever!

BiWiccanAndProud
Oct 26, 2007, 11:41 PM
I do the same thing in that I sit down and will look straight ahead and my fingers will just go across my keyboard and produce poetry to let out my feelings. "The Mask" is just about the most hate filled poem I have ever written, I let it out when I was just really really mad at school.

erlobenauer
Oct 26, 2007, 11:45 PM
Just wanted to say hi to everyone - I'll step back in when I have a little more time to actually catch up and read. Hope everyone is doing OK!


Erica

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 12:12 AM
just wanted to say hi to everyone - I'll step back in when I have a little more time to actually catch up and read. Hope everyone is doing ok!


Erica

Hi, Erica!

Thanks for popping in! We're doing about as well as artists can be, you know? I don't know that I'm speaking for everyone here. Maybe not. We can be kind of temperamental at times! Working with the ups and downs in our lives, trying to find the ways to express ourselves through the arts and holding each other up by sharing about things in our lives because of what we have in common. We do understand each other!

Are you doing okay?

Craig

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 12:23 AM
If anyone has not been to Jan's website, it is here. It's pretty cool!

Pencils And Paint (http://www.pencilsandpaint.com/pnp/action/home)

erlobenauer
Oct 27, 2007, 12:27 AM
I really like the website. All of Jan's drawings are fabulous!

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 12:44 AM
She's a pretty incredible woman!

erlobenauer
Oct 27, 2007, 12:53 AM
Yes she is, I agree there!

I sent another p.m. - its kind of long, sorry!

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 01:01 AM
I'm reading your message, now. Just wanted to let you know.

erlobenauer
Oct 27, 2007, 01:02 AM
OK... sorry, I don't mean to fill you with my life story, haha!

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 01:10 AM
It's perfectly okay. You have some real "heavys" going on for you right now. I really do care! I don't think that it's any accident as to why certain people come together at whatever time. The people on this thread. The fact that I have never before been involved in a site where you are communicating so rapidly with other people. And now, poof! New relationships, and incredible amount of sharing going on about personal, career and not to forget the similarities in what we do, feel and share in the arts of whatever kind. Nothing fake or hiding behind a moniker in a chat room of some kind that is poorly monitored, especially on this thread. I would never use a chat room, by-the-way. Might be the thing to do for some, but not me.

erlobenauer
Oct 27, 2007, 01:13 AM
Oh yes, I aboslutely agree. I'm so so thankful I found this website. I've been on just about everyday since. If Im not posting on this thread, Im usually just looking at a few questions and answering, then going to take care of some things around the house!

Lately this website is what's keeping me sane, LOL

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 01:40 AM
I'm trying to catch up. Mailbox is almost full. Am saving things and emptying it. You know whom I am talking about in terms of sharing things with. Perhaps asking those people directly would be a good thing. I know that they wouldn't mind. You know the old saying? "Birds of a feather, flock together." That's exactly how we are on this thread.

I present that as another option for you.

If things are going to get out of hand because you seek help where you are at, then you know that you have another option available to you that wouldn't cause a stir at all within in your organization.

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 01:42 AM
You are looking for options and a way to help figure things out. The cards are already laid out for you here. It's not a gamble at all. You know that.

erlobenauer
Oct 27, 2007, 01:48 AM
Yeah, I guess so. I just ahh... I'm really confused. I don't want things to be like this for the rest of my life. Wondering, worrying, it shouldn't be that way,

firmbeliever
Oct 27, 2007, 02:08 AM
Sean,
Your work as always is so much deeper than what it seems.

Thanks Craig for Jan's link.
Her work is so amazing,especially her details in pencil.

Hi all,
I am just updating on the happening of this thread.

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by erlobenauer
Yeah, I guess so. I just ahh... I'm really confused. I don't want things to be like this for the rest of my life. Wondering, worrying, it shouldn't be that way,
Things won't be this way for the rest of your life. You don't have to have things be for you like the way that they are now. You don't have to have the wonders and worries that you have.

You have choices to make. One of those choices is to maybe give some tough love to someone. You are an extremely kind person who is in an extremely tough situation. Certain people know that about your kindness who will try to take advantage of you. You need to stand up for whom and what you love. One of those people is you, and what you do in your life. It's okay to be that way, especially at this point in the juncture. If something in your life is going to last to your satisfaction and also someone else's satisfaction, then you have to take action to make it last. No more guessing. Questions and answers straight up and from the hip!

You can keep on wishing and hoping that things will be this way or that. But, the fact is, that we all need to deal with the reality of situations and deal with them accordingly.

I can remember years ago, my mother telling me about her mom and my grandfather whom I never met. He died sometime in the 1940's. My grandfather had a drinking problem. My grandmother told him that it was either he quit the drinking or he would be out the door. (Something like that, anyway.) He quit the drinking.

You see Erica, I am very much like you and that I want to be as correct and as nice as possible, almost to a flaw. We are almost literal perfectionists with our attitudes. There comes the time to step out of the box that we make for ourselves and others try to put us in, and learn another way of dealing with things.

It's okay to do that.

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 02:18 AM
Sean,
your work as always is so much deeper than what it seems.

Thanks Craig for Jan's link.
Her work is so amazing,especially her details in pencil.

Hi all,
I am just updating on the happening of this thread.

Hi, firm!

"Your work as always is so much deeper than what it seems." Amen to that!

Yes, Jan really does some great stuff. Really nice, organized website. I have to put together a website for the concert band with whom I play. I can only hope that I do half as good of a job as Jan has done with hers.

Putting together websites is an art also!

It does take time to catch up on things on this thread! I'm glad that we do try to do that here! I still have some catching up on comments that were made towards me a couple of days ago!

It really is a very enjoyable thread to read! It even has pictures! A good book to read! :)

firmbeliever
Oct 27, 2007, 02:22 AM
A good book indeed.;)

Hey Erica...
I hope you are feeling a bit on the better side.

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 04:08 AM
That website is so cool, such great skill at drawing its amazing!
Aaawww erica please cheer up :)
You deserve a good happy life

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 04:11 AM
that website is so kewl, such great skill at drawing its amazing!
aaawww erica please cheer up :)
you deserve a good happy life

Yes, she does Sean. Just as you do. Just as we all do.

What time is it where you are at, please?

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 04:12 AM
Its 7 10 pm over here
What about you?

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 04:15 AM
6:13 a.m. here! Hard to believe! I always thought that you were just "down under" as the saying goes. But, I guess maybe you are really down under and over!

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 04:18 AM
Lolz
Anyway, speaking of time differences
I noticed that my I-pod has all these times of places in it
So seeing as how my girlfriend lives in Nevada
And some of you are americans I think
What's the city in Nevada? :)
Can't wait to see more art :)

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 04:22 AM
Yes, most of the people who have been participating on this thread are Americans. What is the city in Nevada to which you are referring? Los Vegas, maybe?

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 04:23 AM
Ummmmm I'm not sure my iPod in the north america list of clocks just has all these weird names of towns, vegas isn't in there
What other cities/towns in Nevada?

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 04:31 AM
Well, there's a whole slew of them. Over 300. Some notable ones might be Los Vegas, Reno, Carson City, Cold Springs, Indian Springs... Those are just some that I can think of right now.

templelane
Oct 27, 2007, 04:37 AM
Tee hee it's half twelve in the afternoon here. I always seem to miss the posting 'rush' I suppose I must look like I post in the middle of the night/early morning to all the americans on here. Anyway I must stop procrastinating these essays are not going to write themselves!

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 04:38 AM
None of those 5 seem to be in there
k... maybe it would be more quick for me to list the choices in the I-pod and you guys can tell me which one will have the closest time to what's in Nevada :)
Adak anchorage atlanta austin boston calgary California chicago columbus cupertino dallas denver detroit guatemala halifax havana indianapolis knoxville los angeles managua manchester memphis miami minneapolis montreal nuuk ottawa phoenix port au prince portland regina salt lake city san diego san francisco seattle st johns st loius toronto vancouver winnipeg
(not sure all of those are in the actual usa the category is just north america)
This would be real helpful for me to help deal with time diff tween me and my girlfriend :)
Can't wait to see more art :)

templelane
Oct 27, 2007, 04:48 AM
You don't have to be that specific This map http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/usa-time-zone-converters/images/us-time-zones.jpg and this one http://www.adventureassoc.com/us/nevada/nevada.gif shows san fransico is not in Nevada but the same time zone so you can use that. :)!

EDIT Argh america's too big! Scares me like the abyssal zone and space

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 04:51 AM
Gak! I'm finding it hard to think right now, Sean! I need to get to bed. Haven't been to bed yet. I am sure that the others will help you concerning the cities.

I do want to ask you a few questions before I go to bed. And, also offer you something. Do you mind?

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 04:51 AM
Wewt thanks temple :)
Edit- go ahead clough :)

erlobenauer
Oct 27, 2007, 04:55 AM
Thank you all for your concern :)

After a long talk with the hubby, we know the direction we need to head towards, and I told him he needs to act on it, not just say he will. :) :) MIss talking with all you guys, it's a friends birthday today, so we've got tot get ready - also a costume party. I'll catch up with all of you soon.

HUGS

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 04:59 AM
I just want to know that you are okay right now. Not necessarily great and feeling the best that you can be. I know that you aren't that. But just are you okay and better than you have been in the past twenty-four hours? I am very concerned about you, as are others! I need to rest knowing that you are okay. Okay?

Do you get to see your girlfriend very much?

Have you ever seen the Earth at Night images?

Please remember that "We are one, here!"

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 05:04 AM
I don't get to "see" her, but I talk to her at least a few days of each week, it is so horrible the waiting to talk to her, but when I talk to her it's the best thing in the world
I guess I am okay, well, I isn't going to do anything stupid this weekend so don't worry :)
Neva heard of earth at night, what is it?

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 05:13 AM
i dont get to "see" her, but i talk to her at least a few days of each week, it is so horrible the waiting to talk to her, but when i talk to her its the best thing in the world
i guess i am okay, well, i aint gunna do anything stupid this weekend so dont worry :)
neva heard of earth at night, what is it?

Just one more question before I do some closing comments.

What do you mean by "talk" to her? Is this on the telephone?

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 05:15 AM
Over the net, I'm still getting up the courage to ask her for her phone number, it is a big barrier to cross in this kind of relationship.

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 05:40 AM
over the net, im still getting up the courage to ask her for her phone number, it is a big barrier to cross in this kinda relationship.

Yes it is Sean, yes it is. It's something that needs to be discussed in the near future among those of us who care about you while we are in dialogue with you on this site.

Thank you for the clarification as to seeing her and how you communicate with her. This is part of the reason that I was asking about your girlfriend in the other post that you made.

Earth at Night images are really cool! The main one might be here: APOD: 2004 August 22 - Earth at Night (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap040822.html)

There are others here: Earth at Night - Google Image Search (http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&q=Earth+at+Night&btnG=Search+Images)

I do commend you for starting the post "understanding others religions" and also clarifying your intent in the post. It is truly a worthy endeavor!

Please just realize that there are some fanatics who come on here who are just out to argue for the sake of arguing. It is likely that they will find your post. Either by doing a search on the Internet or from inside this site. This site gets excellent coverage in searches on the Internet. Please just ignore them. They can't be pleased, no matter what you say.

I just would hate to see you get discouraged when you have tried to do something that is sincere and working for the good of all. Please be careful!

I am glad that you are okay! Please stay that way!

We are with you, Sean! We are one!

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 05:51 AM
Thank you clough :)

Clough
Oct 27, 2007, 05:54 AM
Your welcome, Sean! And, thank you for being you!

Goodnight, good day, good evening or whatever to all! :) I got to go to bed!

cal823
Oct 27, 2007, 05:56 AM
Sleep well clough :)
Don't let the bed bugs and global warmings bite ;)

jrebel7
Oct 28, 2007, 07:13 PM
Proud is very talented in the art department but how can you guarantee that nothing will be copied?

Anyway, Hopefully one day she will actually get her art and talent looked at.

Excellant art so far on this thread. For myself I enjoy drawing buildings and making art with my food. lol

Joe

Hi there! Have you posted any drawings of your buildings or food art? I try to go through the thread periodically to see if new art has been posted that I might have missed. I would love to see your art! :)

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 12:27 AM
Just dabbling again FB! I thought I would post some wreaths I have made. If you can glue it, I can do it but I don't do thread!! :o That is why I so much admire those who do! :)

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 12:30 AM
Hi, Jan! Your pictures are still loading on my computer!

Craig

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 12:31 AM
Craig, can you view them now?

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 12:34 AM
They are getting there. I can see the first two really clearly.

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 12:36 AM
For some reason, when I resized them smaller, they were extremely unclear!! So I resized from original again a little larger so now they look like billboards. Oh well, I couldn't seem to go to bed so just messin' around.

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 12:45 AM
I can see all three very clearly now. They are just beautiful! The middle one looks to me like there are some sewn portions on it. Not?

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 12:46 AM
Craig, I think I read on one of the threads you had a "gig" this weekend?? If so, wondering how it went for you. Share photos when you can and articles. I hope it was great and I am sure it was. You are in your element when you are performing, right? Since I haven't heard back, thinking you might have hopped over to another thread. Are you happy with how the Halloween thread is coming along? Those short one liner jokes are great! I have enjoyed those. Guess I will go on to bed and hopefully sleep. Long day tomorrow. Well, maybe you just popped on, let me check and answer if so... :)

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 12:50 AM
Please don't go just yet! I am on another thread at the same time. You might be interested in it! It might shortly involve the Halloween thread.

Yes, I did have a gig tonight. I have some mixed feelings about it that would be appropriate to post on this thread. But, that might have to happen at a later time.

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 12:54 AM
I can see all three very clearly now. They are just beautiful! The middle one looks to me like there are some sewn portions on it. Not?

Not a stitch! The bunny was just a cloth bunny purchased at local craft store. I even made the clothes for the bunny from material used in wreath and glued every bit of it!

I have made curtains for my kitchen that fit on a rod and can be used as ballooned or flat and glued both the top and bottom part that goes on the rod and take them off and launder them also. I just use hot glue. I don't even sew on buttons! Pretty sad, I know. I had to take Home EC in high school and it took five of us to put my zipper in my skirt. As you know, I ride motor cycles, fish and hunt, do my art and am just not really into the girly things. I have always been a tomboy and enjoy every minute of it although my sister use to try to change me into being a lady! LOL A few years later she and her husband bought Harley's and she is more like me but still can be quite the lady. She is six years older than I and always thinks I should march to her beat but... I pretty much march to the beat of my own drum! LOL :p

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 01:00 AM
Not a stitch! The bunny was just a cloth bunny purchased at local craft store. I even made the clothes for the bunny from material used in wreath and glued every bit of it!

I have made curtains for my kitchen that fit on a rod and can be used as ballooned or flat and glued both the top and bottom part that goes on the rod and take them off and launder them also. I just use hot glue. I don't even sew on buttons! Pretty sad, I know. I had to take Home EC in high school and it took five of us to put my zipper in my skirt. As you know, I ride motor cycles, fish and hunt, do my art and am just not really into the girly things. I have always been a tomboy and enjoy every minute of it although my sister use to try to change me into being a lady! LOL A few years later she and her husband bought Harley's and she is more like me but still can be quite the lady. She is six years older than I and always thinks I should march to her beat but ........ I pretty much march to the beat of my own drum! LOL :p

I buy my daughter what would usually considered to be "guy" type things for Christmas. Tools, etc.

Viewing what you have done with the wreaths, I now feel confident that I could do such a thing. I have at least three or four hot glue guns. (Keep buying them because I forget where they are at.) I love to make artsy crafty things! At Christmas time, I hold the neighborhood Christmas party at my home. I usually end up borrowing a bunch of stuff from friends and neighbors as far as decorations and whatever. It would be nice to have more things that I have made myself to display.

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 01:05 AM
I buy my daughter what would usually considered to be "guy" type things for Christmas. Tools, etc.

Viewing what you have done with the wreaths, I now feel confident that I could do such a thing. I have at least three or four hot glue guns. (Keep buying them because I forget where they are at.) I love to make artsy crafty things! At Christmas time, I hold the neighborhood Christmas party at my home. I usually end up borrowing a bunch of stuff from friends and neighbors as far as decorations and whatever. It would be nice to have more things that I have made myself to display.

Just buy straw wreath at craft store, cut your choice of material in four inch squares with pinking shears, use a stylus or flat end skewer when you place glue on center of piece of material on the print side, then stick it into the straw. It takes a lot of pieces of material if you like them really full like I do and I like to continue the material a little around to the back, not all the way but I don't like the straw wreath to show through. Easy, just time consuming. No end to the ideas of how to decorate them. As with most things, I do a few of one type thing then try another. Glad you like them. No doubt you could do them. If I can, you can! :p

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 01:07 AM
Craig, I hate to crash out on you but I have a long day planned tomorrow. I will be anxious to hear about your night though! See you on the thread, hopefully tomorrow night? Later then! :)

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 01:12 AM
Are pinking shears the kind with all of the angles in them?

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 01:14 AM
Craig, I hate to crash out on you but I have a long day planned tomorrow. I will be anxious to hear about your night though! See you on the thread, hopefully tomorrow night? Later then! :)

That's okay! I definitely understand! I should be "rolling up the sidewalk" myself here. "Michelle" already got off the site. It probably would be best that I do, too.

firmbeliever
Oct 29, 2007, 01:57 AM
Jan,
I "sew" love the "sew" wreath! :)

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 02:01 AM
Her wreaths are definitely beautiful!

erlobenauer
Oct 29, 2007, 02:23 AM
Hi everyone, just popping in to say hi. Hope all is well - and hope to be on soon chatting and sharing some kind of art. Haven't been feeling well and haven't drawn anything up in over a week or more. I'll get on it sooner or later.

HUGS

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 02:52 AM
Hi everyone, just popping in to say hi. Hope all is well - and hope to be on soon chatting and sharing some kind of art. Haven't been feeling well and haven't drawn anything up in over a week or more. I'll get on it sooner or later.

HUGS

Are things going better for you since the last time we communicated? I really hope so! I am sure that this thread will get going with more art stuff in a very short while. It won't die! It may wax and wane, but it won't die...

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 07:59 AM
Jan,
I "sew" love the "sew" wreath!!:)

Thank you "sew" much FB!! :) My sister-in-law is wonderful with thread. She makes dolls of all kinds in wonderful clothes without any patterns, makes adult clothes, takes care of any needs of sewing I have if my husband can't do it! LOL The first year we were married, he came in from work. He asked what I was doing. I told him, "Moving buttons over on this shirt, the band around the wrists are too large." He smiled and said, "Here let me do it!" I thought I was doing quite well. The buttons had four holes in them and I was doing the criss cross and then going from hole to hole in a square. Those buttons would have never come off. The shirt would have been in shreds before the buttons would have ever came off! :p :p :p

Anyway, that sewing wreath was for her! She has it on her wall in her living room! Hope to see more art work posted from you soon! :)

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 07:37 PM
Hi everyone, just popping in to say hi. Hope all is well - and hope to be on soon chatting and sharing some kind of art. Haven't been feeling well and haven't drawn anything up in over a week or more. I'll get on it sooner or later.

HUGS

Sure hope you feel better soon. Looking forward to more art from you! :)

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 07:52 PM
Hi, Jan!

How are you? What is the most recent project that you have been working on in your art?

cal823
Oct 29, 2007, 08:52 PM
The wreaths are sew special!
Can't wait to see more art :) can't get enuff
Tonight because I'm in the art class I have to go to the schools art exhibition, lots of good stuff in there (not many of my stuff in there because only one of my studios so far is good to hang on a wall, mite show you guys a pick of it later)

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 08:57 PM
Hi, Jan!

How are you? What is the most recent project that you have been working on in your art?

Hi there!
I have just started a new commission piece. It is a pencil drawing. (Two years ago I did a commission piece for the same person. It was a Christmas gift for the man in her life. It is a drawing of his Florida home. It is on my web site under Gallery, called "Florida-Get-Away".) The place the man grew up in is a bungalow on Long Island. They call it "Breezy". It is for a Christmas gift also. I am not familiar with the area. When I do the write up I will get more details. The photos I have to work from are new ones with new siding but I am to put the old Asbestos siding on it in the drawing and she requested I add a little Radio Flyer Wagon on the front deck or porch. There is a flag pole and no flag but she wants the flag. I do have an image of the old deck railing and she wants it all the way around it. She wants me to leave out all other structures in the background in the photo, leave out plants in front of the railing and put sea shells because the is how it was in the 40'2-50's! It will be a challenge and will take research because I will need to know what type of shells are on the beaches in that area but every time I begin a new project, I look at the blank piece of paper and wonder if I will ever make the first mark.

What are you working on? Did you get the upright piano finished? Have any more 'gigs' coming up the next few weeks or should I ask how many do you have? :)

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 09:01 PM
the wreaths are sew special!
cant wait to see more art :) can't get enuff
tonite coz im in the art class i have to go to the schools art exhibition, lots of good stuff in there (not many of my stuff in there coz only one of my studios so far is good to hang on a wall, mite show you guys a pick of it later)

Glad you liked the wreaths! :) More of my dabbling.
I love seeing everyone's art on this thread. I hope you will post more! Post all your work that you can here. It encourages all of us when we can get excited for someone else's work and their excitement and enjoyment for the arts. I check on here every day for your work. ;)

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 09:10 PM
Is this your busiest time of the year for you doing art, Jan? It must be nice to be getting commissioned to do work. A long time ago, I was commissioned to build some people a harpsichord (virginal).

The old upright piano is not finished yet. I really have to get on it!

I have a performance with the Quad City Wind Ensemble this coming Sunday. I will be playing piano and other percussion instruments in the concert. What's weird, is that I haven't been able to come to most of the rehearsals for this concert because of all the gigs that I have had on Sundays. We practice for Wind Ensemble on Sunday evenings. The piece for which I will be playing piano, I have not practiced with the group yet. It's kind of scary without having a rehearsal with the group first. We might get to run some things for about twenty minutes before the performance. But, that's about it. Usually, we have a rather long warm-up rehearsal on the day of a concert. There are about three to seven gigs a month with the big band that I play with.

Incoming from the phone, now. Got to go...

cal823
Oct 29, 2007, 09:14 PM
Hehe I'm on here everyday pretty much looking for you guys art because its all
Sew special! Lolz

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 09:34 PM
hehe im on here everyday pretty much looking for you guys art coz its all
sew special! lolz

I "sew" appreciate your nice words!! :p You are fun Cal. I hope more artists will post work. Firm Believer hasn't posted in a while nor has Erica. I know Didi is busy and will be back later. Chek has not posted in a while as well as many others I miss! Guess what, neither have you little friend!! ;)

Hope to see your work soon!!

I think I am almost down for the count tonight. I was up until 3:30 a.m. this morning just enjoying the threads. I am usually good until 1:30 a.m. but later than that and I'm not worth much the next day. It was a long day today.

Ok, I do have some questions though Cal. Am I understanding correctly that you live in Australia?? If so, what time is it there. I meant to look up time zones but outside of the Unites States, I got kind of lost in the way it was posted on the site I checked. Can you post anything later tonight?? Hope so! I will check back tomorrow without fail! Also, it seems on this thread (and it may be much the same with the other threads, I am just not familiar with them) we are a very international group. I love diversity! What is your favorite medium in which to work?? Do you have a favorite artist or favorite art period? I look forward to your answers. See you tomorrow night on the thread?

jrebel7
Oct 29, 2007, 09:56 PM
Is this your busiest time of the year for you doing art, Jan? It must be nice to be getting commissioned to do work. A long time ago, I was commissioned to build some people a harpsichord (virginal).

The old upright piano is not finished yet. I really have to get on it!

I have a performance with the Quad City Wind Ensemble this coming Sunday. I will be playing piano and other percussion instruments in the concert. What's weird, is that I haven't been able to come to most of the rehearsals for this concert because of all the gigs that I have had on Sundays. We practice for Wind Ensemble on Sunday evenings. The piece for which I will be playing piano, I have not practiced with the group yet. It's kind of scary without having a rehearsal with the group first. We might get to run some things for about twenty minutes before the performance. But, that's about it. Usually, we have a rather long warm-up rehearsal on the day of a concert. There are about three to seven gigs a month with the big band that I play with.

Incoming from the phone, now. Gotta go.....

Hi there Craig! To answer your question, no, this is not the busiest time of the year for me. I pace myself and say no when it gets this close. Most of my larger pieces take from 30 to 50 hours give or take. This gals sister-in-law wanted me to do a drawing of the same house. I had to say no but that I could have a print made of the one I am working on. She was happy with that. With five little ones to buy Christmas gifts for and mother in a NH to visit each evening, time is limited right now for art.

Was the piece you mentioned, the harpsichord (virginal) that you were commissioned to build the one you posted the photo of earlier? The photo was small but the piece looked beautiful.

I use to turn down commission pieces because I worried too much about the person being pleased with the piece. I generally get to a place, I know it is finished yet always seem to find ways to improve it but don't want to over work it. I came to terms with it by telling each customer how much I charge an hour and that if, when they come to view the finished piece, they are not pleased, they owe me nothing and I retain the piece. I always retain copyright on all my work. If there is a request for the copyright also, I would sell it but generally, people do not ask for that. I write short stories to go with some pieces, fictional. I always take the piece to my printer, have him scan it and make Giclee prints, greeting cards, and bookmarks, if the piece warrants that, before it is picked up.

Sounds like you are going to have to 'wing it' this time with your music performance and you know, I am sure, without a doubt, it will fly! You are a busy guy. I do not stay that busy with my art as you do with yours. I did have an art show at Utica Square in Tulsa a few weeks ago but I think I told you about that.

There are so many arts and crafts not yet shown on this thread. I was a little shy about posting my work at first so I understand some being reluctant but seems we are all a pretty open and caring group on this thread. It seems to be a safe place to put your work out there and feel it will be appreciated. Putting my work out there for viewing is not unlike feeling I am on display in the buff. It is that personal to me. May not be for others but I guess that is why I don't really enjoy doing art shows. My art almost becomes an extension of me as I am working on it yet when the person takes it, I gladly bid it farewell and feel blessed that it is going to a good home. :p

Does your music have that effect on you in that it becomes part of who you are? I would be interested to read more of what the other artists feel about this also. I am not around other artists much so I relish reading anything each of you have to share. Sorry this is an epic. I get that way late at night. I will say good night to all! See you on the thread!

cal823
Oct 29, 2007, 10:27 PM
It is currently 2 21 pm
Hmmmm my fave famous artists would have to be the following
Fondation Dubuffet (http://www.dubuffetfondation.com/index_ang.htm)
(jean dubuffet)((his polystyrene/resin scultpures in particular)
Salvador dali (surrealism)
And utugawa hiroshige is pretty cool (ukiyo-e)
Apart from that I don't know of many famous artists I am particularly interested in
I'm thinking of looking at dada and the anti art movements, and I have been looking into aboriginal art recently for my final in school studio for the year, and there is so much more to it than I thought! Did you know all those dots, are actually a way of hiding symbolism and secrets, and were actually taugh to them by a european teacher, so they used the dots because originally they revealed too much sacred symbolisms and stuff in their art to the rest of the world (two aboriginal men were onced coaxed into doing sacred sand art which was meant for mens eyes only in their beliefs, on a big stage in front of cameras) since things like that, the dots have replaced those things so they do not reveal such things to the general public. I like the dots, its kind of on a parralell in ways to the mannikins I use. :)

firmbeliever
Oct 29, 2007, 11:19 PM
Cal,
I knew you would identify with aboriginal art.That is so "you" ;).

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 11:44 PM
Hi there Craig! To answer your question, no, this is not the busiest time of the year for me. I pace myself and say no when it gets this close. Most of my larger pieces take from 30 to 50 hours give or take. This gals sister-in-law wanted me to do a drawing of the same house. I had to say no but that I could have a print made of the one I am working on. She was happy with that. With five little ones to buy Christmas gifts for and mother in a NH to visit each evening, time is limited right now for art.

Was the piece you mentioned, the harpsichord (virginal) that you were commissioned to build the one you posted the photo of earlier? The photo was small but the piece looked beautiful.

The one in the picture that I posted is one that I finished building. The one that I was asked to build for others, unfortunately I have no pictures of, I think? I'm not all that sure though. It would have been in the mid 1980's. I didn't think to take pictures of everything that was important to me or that I had crafted in some way. The pictures are of great interest to my children and a cousin of mine, also.

Clough
Oct 29, 2007, 11:45 PM
Cal,
I knew you would identify with aboriginal art. That is so "you" ;).

Ditto that, from me!

erlobenauer
Oct 30, 2007, 02:20 AM
Hi all!

Clough
Oct 30, 2007, 02:27 AM
Hi all!

Well hello, Erica!

erlobenauer
Oct 30, 2007, 02:30 AM
How are you doing today?