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    Jun 19, 2008, 06:57 AM
    Well I can understand what your saying about going on top, its seems like I'm doing it only for him, to give him a break, as for me there is no point at all, its just simply his penis going in and out of me and that's the best it gets
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    Jun 19, 2008, 07:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by orgless
    well i can understand what your saying about going on top, its seems like im doing it only for him, to give him a break, as for me there is no point at all, its just simply his penis going in and out of me and thats the best it gets
    I'm not going to say this is "wrong"... as you feel what you feel and there's no one perfect position for all, but I've seen a completely different take...

    For ex, man on top, missionary, often is more of the "in-out" movement with little to no pressure at your pubic bone, the mons pubis, or your cl!toris unless he really has good core strength and can lift himself well. Not saying that this cannot make a woman orgasm... obviously some can.

    But woman on top with a "rowing" motion instead of "bouncing" can put pressure in all those areas that might not get it otherwise. I've never thought woman on top was about being lazy, tho' I'm sure it can be... for me its just been a very productive position for the women I've dated.

    As for the OP... it's a mixed bag. On one hand you need to get out of your own way in the bedroom. Your insecurities are holding you back from enjoying yourself fully. And on the other hand, everybody finds positions they favor and there's nothing wrong with preferring one over another... the only issue you might need to face is the idea of self stimulating while he is inside you... something that you might not be willing to do if you are self conscious, but like woman on top, can be a powerful way to make positions that feel good, but don't push you over the top, more productive.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 08:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by kp2171
    im not going to say this is "wrong"... as you feel what you feel and theres no one perfect position for all, but ive seen a completely different take...

    for ex, man on top, missionary, often is more of the "in-out" movement with little to no pressure at your pubic bone, the mons pubis, or your cl!toris unless he really has good core strength and can lift himself well. not saying that this cannot make a woman orgasm... obviously some can.

    but woman on top with a "rowing" motion instead of "bouncing" can put pressure in all those areas that might not get it otherwise. ive never thought woman on top was about being lazy, tho' im sure it can be... for me its just been a very productive position for the women ive dated.

    as for the OP... its a mixed bag. on one hand you need to get out of your own way in the bedroom. your insecurities are holding you back from enjoying yourself fully. and on the other hand, everybody finds positions they favor and theres nothing wrong with preferring one over another... the only issue you might need to face is the idea of self stimulating while he is inside you... something that you might not be willing to do if you are self conscious, but like woman on top, can be a powerful way to make positions that feel good,

    but dont push you over the top, more productive.
    I'm sorry but since when does a man get any contact with your public bone? I know mine doesn't ever no matter what position we have tried and believe me we have tried them all, and it makes no difference what so ever, lets face it I got to 42 before I even knew that I owned something called a , so whatever he had been doing before then was purely for what suited him, and I didn't know any better, which the OP is in a better position than I was, as I never onced expected to feel anything as I had never felt anything.
    Sorry but you are going to have to explain what you mean by the rowing motion better as I can't figure out what your meaning by this, as far as I'm concerned the only thing that happens is for him to be going in and out even if I'm on top of him and yes some might call that bouncing
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    Jun 19, 2008, 08:58 AM
    In missionary a man can place pressure on the mons pubis, which is the fatty pad that overlies a part of the pubic bone, just above the clitoral hood... and therefore clitoris if he takes the right angle, but he can also simply thrust in and out, not making pressure in this region. To put pressure here he must bear more weight on his upper body and focus his weight and contact in this region. More work and inconsistent pressure, but doable. With the woman on top, she can tilt her pelvis to get the same pressure and she has more control over the amount of pressure.

    "rowing the boat" motion means the woman is on top, sitting high, and she is shifting her pelvis forward (toward his head) and then back (toward his feet)... the shaft stays more inside her, as opposed to her lifting and then down. This rowing motion can also incorporate lateral or circular movement, making his glans stim the g spot as well as the "legs" of the cl!toral complex that follow the labia.

    Quote Originally Posted by orgless
    im sorry but since when does a man get any contact with your public bone? i know mine doesnt ever no matter what position we have tried and believe me we have tried them all, and it makes no difference what so ever, lets face it i got to 42 before i even knew that i owned something called a , so whatever he had been doing before then was purely for what suited him, and i didnt know any better, which the OP is in a better position than i was, as i never onced expected to feel anything as i had never felt anything.
    sorry but you are going to have to explain what you mean by the rowing motion better as i can't figure out what your meaning by this, as far as im concerned the only thing that happens is for him to be going in and out even if im on top of him and yes some might call that bouncing
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    Jun 19, 2008, 09:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by kp2171
    in missionary a man can place pressure on the mons pubis, which is the fatty pad that overlies a part of the pubic bone, just above the clitoral hood... and therefore clitoris if he takes the right angle, but he can also simply thrust in and out, not making pressure in this region. to put pressure here he must bear more weight on his upper body and focus his weight and contact in this region. more work and inconsistant pressure, but doable. with the woman on top, she can tilt her pelvis to get the same pressure and she has more control over the amount of pressure.

    "rowing the boat" motion means the woman is on top, sitting high, and she is shifting her pelvis forward (toward his head) and then back (toward his feet)... the shaft stays more inside her, as opposed to her lifting up and then down. this rowing motion can also incorporate lateral or circular movement, making his glans stim the g spot as well as the "legs" of the cl!toral complex that follow the labia.
    Well I know that he cant/doesnt ever touch me on the mons when he's inside me or not, and certainly never touches my when in there, only his fingers or tongue can do that. In fact there is enough room between us that you could get about 4-6 inches in that gap.

    Sorry I just don't understand what your saying that you should do motion wise for being on top, it makes little sense to me. Do you mean to sit on top of him and then stick your tummy in and out? I can't see how you can move your pelvis the way you say at all
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    Jun 19, 2008, 09:37 AM
    Look at this as a chance to focus on what feels best to you... shift and position yourself to get maximum enjoyment. Nobody can find just the right position , angle etc to do it for you but you, but don't get frustrated as that's conterproductive to what you seek. And about him? Trust me he's going to enjoy himself however you go about it.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 09:40 AM
    Yeah sure he does every damm time, and I end up thinking OK here we go again, what do I do now? It makes no difference to me what I move like or try it only feels like he's going in and out and that's it, imagine getting a cucumber and putting that in your mouth and doing the same, that's what his penis feels like!!
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    Jun 19, 2008, 09:46 AM
    Experiment with how vertical you tend to be if its leaning back, bolt upright, leaning forward, experiment with how you angle your hips as well. Your personal anatomy will dictate what's going to get you the most stimulation.

    You can use forward -backward sliding motions side to side, in adition to the obvious up and down, and combinations thereof, you can face him or face away from him. Like having the big "O" stressing out too much only makes it harder to achieve.

    Then there is what he can do with his free hands... or what you can do as well with yours. Possibility of variety is quite vast.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 09:48 AM
    So I have heard and tried and none of it matters I don't get anything from it at all, and as for his hands they don't do a thing either, come to think of it his tongue too
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    Jun 19, 2008, 09:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by orgless
    so i have heard and tried and none of it matters i dont get anything from it at all, and as for his hands they dont do a thing either, come to think of it his tongue too
    I remember some of your other threads. And you do suffer from a rather unusual problem. Don't know what to say in your case as I know you have pursued various paths in the past to resolve it.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 09:53 AM
    Yep tried and go kicked off the doctors list for asking for help but that's the uk for you!!
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    Jun 19, 2008, 10:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by orgless
    yep tried and go kicked off the doctors list for asking for help but thats the uk for you!!!!
    Yeah, I've heard some bad things about the Socialized Medicine system you have. If a band-aide (bandage) won't help you are almost S.O.L. (poop out of luck)
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    Jun 19, 2008, 10:59 AM
    I never liked top because, for one, I always felt like I had to spend as much effort in balancing. The thing is you want to do what pleases you. Maybe all that you want doesn't *please* him but he does it for you so it is a give and take alternate things and keep it interesting to each other as well as you getting satisfied.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 11:16 AM
    My last try here. I'm not going to argue about anatomy.

    I am not saying he reaches the pubic bone or the mons from inside you. I'm saying he can apply pressure to this area with his body weight. Pressure here, among other errogenous pressure zones, can help some women reach orgasm.

    As for the rowing motion, I don't know how to describe it better than I have. It has nothing to do with your stomach. Instead on his being in you sliding him in and out you keep deep contact and you simply thrust your hips toward the head of the bed, then back toward the feet.

    Quote Originally Posted by orgless
    well i know that he cant/doesnt ever touch me on the mons when hes inside me or not, and certainly never touches my when in there, only his fingers or tongue can do that. in fact there is enough room between us that you could get about 4-6 inches in that gap.

    sorry i just dont understand what your saying that you should do motion wise for being on top, it makes little sense to me. do you mean to sit on top of him and then stick your tummy in and out? i can't see how you can move your pelvis the way you say at all
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    Jun 19, 2008, 11:18 AM
    Yeah I tend to just lean forward so I can balance on my fore arms and then let him do his thing I just hang on for the ride! Similar to riding a horse bare back I guess, lean forward and hang on around the neck!!
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    Jun 19, 2008, 11:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by kp2171
    my last try here. im not going to argue about anatomy.

    i am not saying he reaches the pubic bone or the mons from inside you. im saying he can apply pressure to this area with his body weight. pressure here, among other errogenous pressure zones, can help some women reach orgasm.

    as for the rowing motion, i dont know how to describe it better than i have. it has nothing to do with your stomach. instead on his being in you sliding him in and out you keep deep contact and you simply thrust your hips toward the head of the bed, then back toward the feet.

    Well unless you can put something under my shins then there is no way I can do what your saying, once he's in me then that's it , I can either go up and down or as I said above hang on for him doing the bouncing from under me, as for sliding nah I can't do that at all as there is nothing to slide on!!
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    Jun 19, 2008, 12:21 PM
    orgless- so you basically do not get orgasms at all? What about through self-stimulation? I understand by not feeling much during sex but I am going to experiment w/being on top because I really haven't & I still believe I can get one this time around...
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    Jun 19, 2008, 12:56 PM
    No I don't get then ever at all from any means, I don't even understand what being close would be
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    Jun 19, 2008, 01:28 PM
    Well I do hope you get passed this meaning you should try different things on yourself... I personally rarely have orgasms during sex but I do on my own. I was raised in a very traditional family where I was supposed to be a virgin till marriage so I had to learn & talk about "sex" w/my friends. I think rasied in a certain environment you are closed off & do not know yourself sexually. I will ask a blunt question- but do you watch porn? This may help some sort of stimulation...
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:33 PM
    Hahahaahah watchng porn don't do anything at all, to be honest to you I don't even know what being aroused is,

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