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    denice Posts: 66, Reputation: 3
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    Jan 1, 2008, 12:59 PM
    Suboxone works well for pain too
    My husband has been on loritabs and morphine his medicine was late one time so he started to detox so I took him and got some suboxone it worked well the thing is though
    It stopped his real bad pain I told the doctor they say it is not for pain so we see a drug reform doctor why do they not like this medicine for pain it works great he says he feels funny sitting with all the druges but it is the only thing that has worked and nobody else will perscribe this or am I looking in the wrong place
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    Jan 7, 2008, 01:43 PM
    Suboxone is an opiate substitute. It is only a partial-agonist [meaning that it barely touches the opioiod receptors that cause the euphoria] It sort of fools the brain into thinking that theirs a full agonist in your system [morphine, heroin, methadone, oxy].

    So, in theory it shouldn't really do much for pain unless your opiate naïve, and in that case its probably just going to make you sicker than a dog.

    But if it works for your hubby, more power to him.

    You'll need to find a doc that's licensed to Rx the stuff though. Any MD needs to complete training in addictionology and learn about Suboxone maintenance before they can prescribe it. [its the only way the FDA would put this stuff on the market I guess]

    It's my guess that if you took the approach of trying to get him on this stuff for pain management they would turn you down.

    If the purpose is to get him off the more addictive full agonists like hydro and morphine, then yeah he'd have no problem getting into a subox maintenance program.

    Make sure you research your doctors though. Some of them require that you attend counseling during the suboxone maint. I guess learning about opiate addiction isn't a bad thing, but if you're insurance doesn't cover it you might end up screwing yourself financially.
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    Jan 16, 2008, 10:38 PM
    Jerry tore the muscles in both arms. So neither arm works. They just hang and then you see him lay down and his arms come up like chicken wings. He was on loritabs 5 and then 10 did not work. So they put him on morphine. Worked well for pain. Lost 25 lbs always sick. So we gave it back. And he went back on loritabs10 4to7 a day. Still had pain. His medicine is mailed did not show. Was late he started to detox. We know about saboxine. So we went and got it for him. I figured until his pills got here. Well all of a sudden he can lift one arm all the way and the other arm half way with no pain. But we did like his doctor said and back on the loritabs he went. And then the bad pain came back. Well I put him back on the suboxine and I found a doctor. They will treat him. He told us that he is not mentally addictit to it. He is physically in need of it. So any way they will treat him for the pain. The reason I put this on. Is because jerrys pain is bad. Maybe this might help somebody else's pain too. I do not know. I just know when you have bad pain. It is worth trying. He did tell us the pain has to be all the time. Not like you break you're arm. And you need it for awhile it is just some information thank you
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    Jan 19, 2008, 07:45 AM
    That's good to hear. I'm on suboxone maintenance, not for pain though.

    Techically, suboxone is something like 30 times stronger than morphine. So, if Jerry was on 120 mgs of morphine a day that would be equivalent to 4 mgs of suboxone/buprenorphine.
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    Feb 8, 2008, 06:32 PM
    I have a question jerry is now on suboxin 8mg 2 and 1/2 a day works great but they want him off the larazepam 1mg x4 for 20 years they have been reducing him a 1/2 a pill a week he complains a lot he does not understand it is withdrawl this Sunday is his last dose they say withdrawl will only last for three days after that is this correct I really do not believe this any help thank you
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    Feb 11, 2008, 12:35 PM
    The bad part will only last 3 days but he may feel overwhelming waves of depression/anxiety for up to 6 months later. Just try to reassure him that this is not going to last forever, do things that he enjoys, and with time his biochemical levels will normalize. Then his body will naturally increase or decrease dopamine and serotonin (and others) to attempt to compensate with stressors. (Only to a certain degree though, otherwise nobody would need antidepressants or antianxiety meds!)
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    Feb 11, 2008, 12:54 PM
    They put him on sertraline hcl 100 mg. and increased his divaalproex na for his seizures. They took him off his larazapam because we asked for suboxin. The loritabs or morphine did not work for his pain the suboxin did. He made himself a big glass of tea. And he said thank you for written.
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    May 30, 2011, 08:10 PM
    I have been on suboxone for 4yrs at 24mg--28mg and I am also cert in pharmacology and have been a med tech a longtime.now here is the truth people like me that were eating large amounts a day of opiates like hydro or oxycodiene there comes a day and a time were are brains change chemical wise and they are never the same even if we get very better.now suboxone is very strong and it would have been a schedule 2drug but the fda did not want both meds a c2 they wanted it to be easier to get suboxone instead of going threw some hassel like there is with methadone.now suboxone is a life savior for opiate adddiction but it is a very powerful med and it has to be think of it look at what we have done to ourselves and its not our fault at all its not but thinl there people us that eat 50vicodens a day or shooting and snortin opiates we have to have a powerful med to treat a very powerful sickness.suboxone is a great med but it can and will cause a very nasty withdraw so don't be fooled please stay on course turn to your spiritual side and take the suboxone up to 32mg a day if needed and rememeber to not plat around with this med it's a great med but a powerful one.peace and godbless mr.c

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