[billybobby]

I am on probation in Fort Worth (Tarrant County) and I have to do a drug/alcohol test tomorrow (Thursday) around 5pm. I just transferred to this county and they use a lab for the test so I am assuming they will test for EtG. I drank 5 beers on Tuesday and stopped about 1am (Wednesday morning), so about 40 hours after. I ran about 5 miles today and have been drinking a lot of water and cranberry juice. I plan on trying to run again tomorrow before the test. What do you think my chances of passing the alcohol portion of the test? I know the drug portion will be clean. Thanks so much!

[billybobby]

I am on probation in Fort Worth (Tarrant County) and I have to do a drug/alcohol test tomorrow (Thursday) around 5pm. I just transferred to this county and they use a lab for the test so I am assuming they will test for EtG. I drank 5 beers on Tuesday and stopped about 1am (Wednesday morning), so about 40 hours after. I ran about 5 miles today and have been drinking a lot of water and cranberry juice. I plan on trying to run again tomorrow before the test. What do you think my chances of passing the alcohol portion of the test? I know the drug portion will be clean. Thanks so much!

Also I am a 145lb 5'10 male.

[DrBill100]

Tell me the brand of beer (actually alcohol content is my interest) container size and the time span across which you drank the 5 beers.

[billybobby]

Alcohol content was on average 6.5% in 12 oz bottles and they were consumed over about 6 hours. The first two between 6 and 9pm and the remaining 3 between 9pm and 1am.

[DrBill100]

Actually you had the equivalent of 6.5 standard drinks (US) based on alcohol content. What matters is the absolute alcohol content of 91 grams.

EtG is usually detectable in range of 48-60 hours. There are two factors that could change that. Your pace of consumption, about one drink per hour and the fluids that you consumed. EtG is water soluble.

Did you eat anything during that period?

Either way it's difficult to call. But you have a good chance of passing given the totality of circumstances. If the test is for alcohol only (not EtG) then there is no question that you will be clear.

[billybobby]

Actually you had the equivalent of 6.5 standard drinks (US) based on alcohol content. What matters is the absolute alcohol content of 91 grams.

EtG is usually detectable in range of 48-60 hours. There are two factors that could change that. Your pace of consumption, about one drink per hour and the fluids that you consumed. EtG is water soluble.

Did you eat anything during that period?

Either way it's difficult to call. But you have a good chance of passing given the totality of circumstances.

I had about 3 slices of pizza along with the beer. So my best bet is to continue to consume as much water as possible between now and then? Should I take some creatine a few hours before the test in case they test the ratios? I am hoping at least to give a diluted sample and retest within 24 hours.

[billybobby]

Does the cranberry juice do anything in terms of "flushing it out" or should I just stop drinking it? I've also heard that ejaculation prior to drug test will alter the sample in some way, not sure if it would help in this case or not.

[DrBill100]

I can't get involved in providing direct advice about how to defeat a test, even if I knew an infallible method. Which I don't. Explaining the known characteristics of a test (the flaws of the marketed product) and/or elements of human physiology is my pleasure. You and other readers must apply that information as you choose and at your personal risk.

One of the many flaws of the test: "..it is possible to decrease the urinary concentration of EtG to fall below the LOQ* of the analytic method, simply by drinking moderate to large amounts of water or any other fluid prior to voiding..."

The ejaculation theory is a new one for me. Where did that come from?

*Level of Quantitation

Ref.

Dahl, H (2011) (p. 22) Doctoral Thesis. Karolinska Institute

[billybobby]

Someone told me that they took a drug test once and they did they panel test right in front of them. The test administrator said that him ejaculating caused an error on one of the test. This is all just word of mouth from someone. I'm not sure which result it altered so I was just curious if it could possibly do the same for EtG test. I look around online and couldn't find anything about the stated theory though.

[DrBill100]

Someone told me that they took a drug test once and they did they panel test right in front of them. The test administrator said that him ejaculating caused an error on one of the test. This is all just word of mouth from someone. I'm not sure which result it altered so I was just curious if it could possibly do the same for EtG test. I look around online and couldn't find anything about the stated theory though.

Sounds like the theory can be traced to a sarcastic lab tech. Nonetheless, sounds like a way to pass the time while waiting for your number to be called.

[billybobby]

Sounds like the theory can be traced to a sarcastic lab tech. Nonetheless, sounds like a way to pass the time while waiting for your number to be called.

So lucky enough I received a notice to retest tomorrow. I will try and put it off until about 3:30pm. That makes it approximately 62.5 hours after I consumed the alcohol (~6.5 standard drinks). I was told that if I submitted a diluted sample tomorrow it would be considered noncompliant and I will face a penalty of some sort I suppose. Would it be safe to assume that given the 62.5 hour window from the time of consumption to the time of testing, given the exercise yesterday and massive consumptions of water over the past two days, that the EtG levels will no longer be detected?

[DrBill100]

So lucky enough I received a notice to retest tomorrow. I will try and put it off until about 3:30pm. That makes it approximately 62.5 hours after I consumed the alcohol (~6.5 standard drinks). I was told that if I submitted a diluted sample tomorrow it would be considered noncompliant and I will face a penalty of some sort I suppose. Would it be safe to assume that given the 62.5 hour window from the time of consumption to the time of testing, given the exercise yesterday and massive consumptions of water over the past two days, that the EtG levels will no longer be detected?

That puts you in a much safer zone. Very unlikely EtG would be present at that time span.