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    Mar 2, 2015, 03:46 AM
    Hair Drug Test
    Exactly 35 days ago I made a stupid decision. I was incredibly intoxicated and let a friend of mine talk me into trying cocaine for the first time in my life. Recently, I received a dream job offer for an entry level position to a fortune 500 company. They told me I will need to take a hair follicle test for pre-employment. I believe we did three lines each. Some details about me: Very active, Slim (Almost no body fat), incredibly fast metabolism, caucasian with blonde hair. I have had two hair cuts since that night and I have always trimmed my body hair. What are my chances of passing and is there anything I can do to improve my chances?
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    Mar 2, 2015, 08:07 AM
    If the hair is too short, (not normal for anyone to do two haircuts in one month)

    But hair that is too short, including body hair, will light up more red flags and often they will look much closer.

    No, there is no trick and once in hair, how fat or skinny and how active you are mean nothing. It is trace chemicals that just last for a certain amount of time.

    There is nothing to do, but hope for the best, a one time use, will show, and three lines is more than just a little.
    But how cut (the strength of the drug will also play a part of it..
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    Mar 2, 2015, 11:51 AM
    Thanks for the reply! I didn't get the haircut because of this test. It just so happened that way because I usually get a haircut every three weeks.
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    Mar 2, 2015, 11:56 AM
    You probably will pass after 35 days of your last use, depending on what your allowable level of detection is, but be careful of those stupid mistakes in the future.

    What the hell is a fast metabolism?
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    Mar 2, 2015, 06:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You probably will pass after 35 days of your last use, depending on what your allowable level of detection is, but be careful of those stupid mistakes in the future.

    What the hell is a fast metabolism?

    Believe me, I will never do anything like this again. I'm confused though about the cut off levels. 500 p/g m/g. Exactly how much would the typical person need to do to pass that level?
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    Mar 3, 2015, 05:30 AM
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/addict...ml-632500.html

    Note that is for alcohol/amphetamines. Cocaine is 150 ng/ml

    Define Cocaine Cutoff-Level 150 ng/ml - COC150, What does Cocaine Cutoff-Level 150 ng/ml - COC150 mean?

    Cocaine is often self-administered by nasal inhalation, intravenous injection and free-base smoking. It is excreted in the urine in a short time primarily as Benzoylecgonine.2,3 Benzoylecgonine, a major metabolite of cocaine, has a longer biological half-life (5-8 hours) than cocaine (0.5-1.5 hours), and can generally be detected for 24-48 hours after cocaine exposure.
    If you use enough cocaine to to feel any effects at all, even mildly, then chances are you will have a detectable level for several days after.

    Drug Testing Confirmation and Confirmation with MRO Services Information

    Confirmation Drug Testing is recommended when an instant employee drug testing kit delivers a positive or "non-negative" result. Companies that understand the need for legally defensible employee drug testing procedures and policies know that using Confirmation Services for non-negative results greatly minimizes their overall liability. This is particularly true in the case of employees who have been fired, involved in an accident or for those who are not hired.
    Exactly how much would the typical person need to do to pass that level?
    Not much at all depending on purity, and whatever additives.
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    Mar 3, 2015, 02:17 PM
    Here's the simple answer. A hair drug test is meant to show consistent use over time. A 1.5 inch sample will go back 90 days. Since you didn't do much cocaine my best guess is that you will be negative on a hair drug test. It might be a good idea to NOT get another hair cut until you have the test. You're better off having them use head hair that body hair.

    Also most labs report hair drug test results in picograms per milligrams (PG/MG) not ng/ml which is used for urine testing ONLY. Any time you see ng/ml it is a urine test. Usually the cutoff level for hair drug test for cocaine is 200 pg/mg. Of course if your still worried you can do your own Anonymous Hair 5 Drug Panel test. YOU don't have to put your name of social security number on the chain of custody form.
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    Mar 4, 2015, 01:55 AM
    Thanks for the response! I have been reading that body hair show a greater period. Honestly, this is the only time I have tried drugs in my life. So wouldn't it work in my favor to use body hair? Or would the body have be more prone to show up on the test regardless of the single use?

    Quote Originally Posted by mydogfifi View Post
    Here's the simple answer. A hair drug test is meant to show consistent use over time. A 1.5 inch sample will go back 90 days. Since you didn't do much cocaine my best guess is that you will be negative on a hair drug test. It might be a good idea to NOT get another hair cut until you have the test. You're better off having them use head hair that body hair.

    Also most labs report hair drug test results in picograms per milligrams (PG/MG) not ng/ml which is used for urine testing ONLY. Any time you see ng/ml it is a urine test. Usually the cutoff level for hair drug test for cocaine is 200 pg/mg. Of course if your still worried you can do your own Anonymous Hair 5 Drug Panel test. YOU don't have to put your name of social security number on the chain of custody form.

    Thanks for the response! I have been reading that body hair show a greater period. Honestly, this is the only time I have tried drugs in my life. So wouldn't it work in my favor to use body hair? Or would the body have be more prone to show up on the test regardless of the single use?

    Lab being used is Psychemedics.
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    Mar 4, 2015, 06:04 AM
    I doubt you get to choose what hair to use, but the important fact is they are looking for habitual users, and one time use doesn't put you in that category. So relax, and don't fall into the trap of trying to hide what you have done in the past to enhance your already great chance of passing, no matter what test they use.
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    Mar 4, 2015, 06:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Bman1122 View Post
    Thanks for the response! I have been reading that body hair show a greater period. Honestly, this is the only time I have tried drugs in my life. So wouldn't it work in my favor to use body hair? Or would the body have be more prone to show up on the test regardless of the single use?




    Thanks for the response! I have been reading that body hair show a greater period. Honestly, this is the only time I have tried drugs in my life. So wouldn't it work in my favor to use body hair? Or would the body have be more prone to show up on the test regardless of the single use?

    Lab being used is Psychemedics.
    Normally when I do a hair drug test collection I will go for head hair first. But if the hair is less than 1/2 inch long I (or the collector) would use body hair. Body hair does show a longer time frame which I use to tell people is about 9-12 months but over that last year the lab I partner with (Omega) has stopped putting time frames on body hair results. Anyway it sounds like you don't have much to worry about.
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    Mar 12, 2015, 11:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mydogfifi View Post
    Normally when I do a hair drug test collection I will go for head hair first. But if the hair is less than 1/2 inch long I (or the collector) would use body hair. Body hair does show a longer time frame which I use to tell people is about 9-12 months but over that last year the lab I partner with (Omega) has stopped putting time frames on body hair results. Anyway it sounds like you don't have much to worry about.
    Just an update. I took the test the other day, so it would be at 43 days since the incident. The technician took the sample from my leg. When do I find out if I pass or fail the test? If I don't hear from anyone by the end of today that will mark two days since the test(You guys have gave me some reassuring words but I'm still extremely nervous).
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    Mar 12, 2015, 11:26 AM
    When you find the results of the test will depend on the particular lab and their workload. We aren't privy to that information. It will also depend on the chain of command, i.e. The order in which they have to notify people. You will be the last to be notified.
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    Mar 12, 2015, 01:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Bman1122 View Post
    Just an update. I took the test the other day, so it would be at 43 days since the incident. The technician took the sample from my leg. When do I find out if I pass or fail the test? If I don't hear from anyone by the end of today that will mark two days since the test(You guys have gave me some reassuring words but I'm still extremely nervous).
    Once the lab gets the sample it usually takes 2-3 biz days to get the results (at least with the lab I use) but who knows how long the requesting company (employer) takes to let you know. I still think with that small amount ingest it won't show up but we shall see.
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    Mar 18, 2015, 01:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mydogfifi View Post
    Once the lab gets the sample it usually takes 2-3 biz days to get the results (at least with the lab I use) but who knows how long the requesting company (employer) takes to let you know. I still think with that small amount ingest it won't show up but we shall see.
    I want to thank you guys for sharing your knowledge with me through this difficult situation I caused myself. Lesson beyond learned but I passed.
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    Mar 18, 2015, 01:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Bman1122 View Post
    I want to thank you guys for sharing your knowledge with me through this difficult situation I caused myself. Lesson beyond learned but I passed.
    Good deal. The drugs aren't worth screwing around with. They only provide heartache which I see everyday.

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