[muffinsaway]

Hello everybody I wish you all the best. My question is about various mental/emotional disorders that contain the symptoms of violent outburst, blame, hate, yelling, hitting walls and frightful rage and when calmed down feelings of depression, sadness and remorse/guilt over abusing family members. My brother displays all these symptoms what form of depression or disorder is this?? Please help so I can help him. He cannot work because of this, is he eligible for social security disability? I thank anybody who can help!!

[JudyKayTee]

Only a Physician who is willing to provide the necessary medical information can tell you if he qualifies for SS. He can always apply if he meets the criteria but without a diagnosis, treatment. Letter from a Physician, it is pretty hopeless.

What does his Physician say about his diagnosis?

[glasscastle]

Only a Physician who is willing to provide the necessary medical information can tell you if he qualifies for SS. He can always apply if he meets the criteria but without a diagnosis, treatment. letter from a Physician, it is pretty hopeless.

What does his Physician say about his diagnosis?

Yes, a diagnosis is required by a physician but he can not determine if he qualifies for SS. The Social Security department evaluates with a very detailed and thorough step by step process.

Disability Evaluation Under Social Security
(Blue Book- September 2008)

Part III - Listing Of Impairments
The Listing of Impairments describes, for each major body system, impairments considered severe enough to prevent an individual from doing any gainful activity (or in the case of children under age 18 applying for SSI, severe enough to cause marked and severe functional limitations). Most of the listed impairments are permanent or expected to result in death, or the listing includes a specific statement of duration is made. For all other listings, the evidence must show that the impairment has lasted or is expected to last for a continuous period of at least 12 months. The criteria in the Listing of Impairments are applicable to evaluation of claims for disability benefits under the Social Security disability insurance program or payments under both the SSI program.


Part A of the Listing of Impairments contains medical criteria that apply to the evaluation of impairments in adults age 18 and over. The medical criteria in Part A may also be applied in evaluating impairments in children under age 18 if the disease processes have a similar effect on adults and younger children.


Part B of the Listing of Impairments contains additional medical criteria that apply only to the evaluation of impairments of persons under age 18. Certain criteria in Part A do not give appropriate consideration to the particular effects of the disease processes in childhood; that is, when the disease process is generally found only in children or when the disease process differs in its effect on children and adults.
Additional criteria are included in Part B, and the impairment categories are, to the extent possible, numbered to maintain a relationship with their counterparts in Part A. In evaluating disability for child under age 18, part B will be used first. If the medical criteria in part B do not apply, then the medical criteria in part A will be used.
The criteria in the Listing of Impairments apply only to one step of the multi-step sequential evaluation process. At that step, the presence of an impairment that meets the criteria in the Listing of Impairments (or that is of equal severity) is usually sufficient to establish that an individual who is not working is disabled.
However, the absence of a listing-level impairment does not mean the individual is not disabled. Rather, it merely requires the adjudicator to move on to the next step of the process and apply other rules in order to resolve the issue of disability.

SSA Pub. No. 64-039
ICN 468600
September 2008

[glasscastle]

This is a very long process... I feel your pain. My youngest brother is schizophrenic and I know how painful this can be for someone. Dealing with mental illness is never easy and can be very debilitating to the caregiver and entire family.

I want to direct you to the Social Security website where you can download the forms necessary to start working on this. Often times a lawyer can help you and may also be very helpful if you need to appeal. Please read the following and hope it helps! ;-)

We pay disability benefits under two programs:

The Social Security disability insurance program pays benefits to you and certain family members if you worked long enough and paid Social Security taxes.
Your adult child also may qualify for benefits on your earnings record if he or she has a disability that started before age 22.

The Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program pays benefits to disabled adults and children who have limited income and resources.

SSI benefits also are payable to people 65 and older without disabilities who meet the financial limits.

For most people, the medical requirements for disability payments are the same under both programs and disability is determined by the same process.

Whether you apply for Social Security or SSI disability, we ask you for information about your medical condition, work and education history to help us decide if you are disabled under our rules.

***As you can see SS specifically states they decide under their rules!*** The physician is just a PIECE of the puzzle!

[KISS]

Check this link out for yourself:

NIMH · Bipolar Disorder

[glasscastle]

Go to Social Security Online - The Official Website of the U.S. Social Security Administration

[JudyKayTee]

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glasscastle disagrees: The physician is not the one who decides.[/QUOTE]



Where did I say that a Physician makes the final determination whether a person qualifies for SS?

Without a Physician's statement that the person applying is disabled in some way it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to collect.

My stepdaughter was a SS Hearing Officer - people file every day with no medical documentation, no diagnosis, no statement that they are unable to work and those people do not/cannot collect.

Your unhappiness with me - and the reddie you gave me - are a carryover from your unhappiness on your other thread. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/family...ml#post1743792

[glasscastle]

Where did I say that a Physician makes the final determination whether a person qualifies for SS?

Without a Physician's statement that the person applying is disabled in some way it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to collect.

My stepdaughter was a SS Hearing Officer - people file every day with no medical documentation, no diagnosis, no statement that they are unable to work and those people do not/cannot collect.

Your unhappiness with me - and the reddie you gave me - are a carryover from your unhappiness on your other thread. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/family...ml#post1743792

My apologies for the misinterpretation of your first line... "ONLY a Physician who is willing to provide the necessary medical information can tell you if he qualifies for SS." This person is obviously in need of serious assistance and I wanted her to be sure she had the right information regarding such a very important matter.

[glasscastle]

Where did I say that a Physician makes the final determination whether a person qualifies for SS?

Without a Physician's statement that the person applying is disabled in some way it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to collect.

My stepdaughter was a SS Hearing Officer - people file every day with no medical documentation, no diagnosis, no statement that they are unable to work and those people do not/cannot collect.

Your unhappiness with me - and the reddie you gave me - are a carryover from your unhappiness on your other thread. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/family...ml#post1743792

Yes EXPERT ;-)

[JudyKayTee]

Yes EXPERT ;-)

Very few people would admit to a revenge reddie, particularly after being informed about the rules, so I give you points for that. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/family...-352759-2.html

[YeloDasy]

First of all, a physician may not be the one they will look for, a psychiatrist or therapist would be better and they are well aware of the SS qualifications.
Also, the diagnosis can be a few that I can think of without knowing more details. He needs to get to a counselor or therapist... a psychiatrist will take awhile to get to see... start with those two people, then see if he can qualify. They may want to see if treatment helps or works before SS. I have worked with them in my profession and it is hit and miss...
Anyway, get him to a therapist and psychiatrist, and have him talk to them about means of income. He has to be the one who understands that this effects his life more than just income... it's a label he may find hard to rid if needed. Get to know the laws and talk to professionals.
With diagnosis symptoms, it could be numerous things... if you give more details I can give you more ideas of a diagnosis.

[Meredith1978]

Bipolar may be one idea but it is also classic PTSD the difference is bipolar has a more fixed cycle whereas PTSD has triggers so the cycles are more sporatic