[tomder55]

From what I hear the top kill was in the works from day one ;but at the depth it was a huge engineering challenge.

There is no guarantee that this will hold ,but by taking their time ,they increased the chances of success.

"plug the damn hole" hmmm probably don't want to go there . My guess that comment was strategerly timed to coincide with the progress updates that BP was surely supplying the administration.

[meyowgee]

The birds and fish a suffering, The fisherman and the riggers and out of work. Governor Jindel is trying set out sandbars to filter to oil before is hits the wetlands. By the way this the U.S. rain forest. But he's being stopped by the EPA got to do that impact study. The Fed's obstruct every move. st they loose the money set aside in 1985 to handle and have the equipment to stop the spill from reaching the shore. No one has been able to tell me what happened to that federal program. Then the president want to take credit for plugging the hole. If it wasn't such a sad attempt it would be funny. I've lived in oil country all of my life. Plugging the hole was always on the table. Finding a way to control the pressure had to be addressed first or plugging the hole would not have lasted. Drill a well to remove the need for the plug is the next step. Let the drillers do their job. Stop the oil. The Fed's need to get of their high horses and find away to cut the red tape and these lands protected. To the issue of it's only the gulf. Look up the gulf steam and see who that affects. To the issue of stop all drilling. Take a look and you will see
Almost every country in the world drills in the gulf. The U.S. pulling out makes no sense,

[Wondergirl]

Stop the oil....The U.S. pulling out makes no sense,

This makes no sense. Do you want more drilling or not?

Did you watch the President's press conference today? It's BP that has the technology and equipment to fix what got broken. He said the easy oil has been removed. Now companies are going deeper and drilling as much as three miles down to find oil. The complications of that are many, and stopping a break in a well is beyond difficult. It's not like plugging up a hole in a swimming pool.

[Catsmine]

This makes no sense. Do you want more drilling or not?

Did you watch the President's press conference today? It's BP that has the technology and equipment to fix what got broken. He said the easy oil has been removed. Now companies are going deeper and drilling as much as three miles down to find oil. The complications of that are many, and stopping a break in a well is beyond difficult. It's not like plugging up a hole in a swimming pool.

WG, he also said he's been in charge from Day 1. Even the MSM couldn't swallow that. Using this accident to rescind his drilling permits is so convenient a conspiracy theorist would be thinking Bob Gibbs went and played cherry bomb in the toilet just so an accident would happen.

[excon]

WG, he also said he's been in charge from Day 1.

Hello again:

There's no being in charge. There's only LOOKING like you're in charge. Bush couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag, but, he LOOKED like he was leading when he spoke through the bullhorn at ground zero. The president needs to get into a rowboat at the site and address the workers through a bullhorn.

Like the health care debate, Obama lost the conversation. Strike 2.

excon

[meyowgee]

To answer I don't see why we should stop the drilling. The US needs it. With every other country drilling in the gulf us pulling out only drives up prices unemployment
But what we do need the safety people to back away from the porn and do their job's. Wait a Fed employee has their job for life just like the Union and they are protected from law suits because they are civil servants. Wow what a deal! Great pay, and I don't have to do a good job. By the way Obama has given them all raises.

[speechlesstx]

This makes no sense. Do you want more drilling or not?

I think "stop the oil" was the answer to "Let the drillers do their job." Not stop drilling, stop the leak.

[Wondergirl]

WG, he also said he's been in charge from Day 1. Even the MSM couldn't swallow that.

He said it took place on his watch and he takes responsibility.

MSM or MMS?

[speechlesstx]

“Did you plug the hole yet, Daddy” Did he really use that? What a putz.

[paraclete]

just like the difference between recession and depression .....
recession is when your neighbor looses a job. depression is when you do.

Recession, Tom, is when business finds the solution, depression is when the government imposes their solution. In this context I expect certain parts of the US will be in depression for years with the government providing handouts as a solution but don't worry; a great new industry, off shore drilling, will take the place of fisheries and the recession will recede

[Catsmine]

He said it took place on his watch and he takes responsibility.

MSM or MMS?

Main Stream Media, normally his biggest fans.

The actual quote was:

The American people should know that from the moment this disaster began, the federal government has been in charge of the response effort.

Obama on BP oil spill: "I'm fully engaged." Press conference transcript - Lynn Sweet

[tomder55]

but don't worry; a great new industry, off shore drilling, will take the place of fisheries and the recession will recede

It is my understanding that anglers have a lot of luck casting their line towards the platforms . They attract the fish much like an artificial reef .

Of course now you have the added benefit of pan-frying them without adding butter.

[tomder55]

The president needs to get into a rowboat at the site and address the workers through a bullhorn.

Like the health care debate, Obama lost the conversation. Strike 2

Here is what Obot Peggy Noonan says now that she is coming down from the koolaid high .

"The president, in my view, continues to govern in a way that suggests he is chronically detached from the central and immediate concerns of his countrymen. This is a terrible thing to see in a political figure, and a startling thing in one who won so handily and shrewdly in 2008. But he has not, almost from the day he was inaugurated, been in sync with the center. The heart of the country is thinking each day about A, B and C, and he is thinking about X, Y and Z. They're in one reality, he's in another."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...tions_opinion#
It isn't that he is losing the debate.It's because he is disconnected from reality . It took a rant by James Carville to wake him from his slumber .

[excon]

It isn't that he is losing the debate.It's because he is disconnected from reality . It took a rant by James Carville to wake him from his slumber .

Hello again, tom:

I said that same thing back then. Nothing has changed - except the world found out I was right.

excon

[paraclete]

It is my understanding that anglers have a lot of luck casting their line towards the platforms . They attract the fish much like an artifical reef .

Of course now you have the added benefit of pan-frying them without adding butter.

That's fine Tom if you like three eyed fish

[Catsmine]

That's fine Tom if you like three eyed fish

'Clete, are you trying to set up a blue and bold font as "deadpan response to sarcasm?" I can work with that.

[Unknown008]

I just received this:

BP says "top kill" has failed to stop flow of oil from well and it is "time to move on" to another approach.

Here it goes again...

[paraclete]

I just received this:



Here it goes again...

Yes we have heard the bad news. What this demonstrates is we have stepped over the threshold of our technology into the abyss. Let us hope we can find a way of harvesting the oil and cutting off the flow. Perhaps the reason the problem exists is we don't understand the pressures at that depth. There must be a reason why the rig failed and it may be the same reason the leak isn't stopped

[tomder55]

The drilling of relief wells is the ultimate answer to this .But that takes time. These other attempts are at best stop-gap measures.

[paraclete]

The drilling of relief wells is the ultimate answer to this .But that takes time. These other attempts are at best stop-gap measures.

Yes, Tom, that may be, however there is nothing to say these wells won't suffer similar problems handling the pressure