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    Oct 12, 2021, 01:22 PM
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    repubs say that transformer men have no business being in girls bathrooms . I agree

    I really have no response beyond that because keeping separate bathrooms should be self evident . It is creepy to suggest anything else.
    The best solution is unisex bathrooms. Of course, that isn't a viable solution for elementary schools.
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    Oct 12, 2021, 01:32 PM
    Of course, that isn't a good solution for elementary schools.
    or any other public venue . Have you seen the lines at some sporting events or concerts ?
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    Oct 12, 2021, 01:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    or any other public venue . Have you seen the lines at some sporting events or concerts ?
    Don't sell drinks, especially beer.
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    Oct 12, 2021, 01:50 PM
    I really have no response beyond that because keeping separate bathrooms should be self evident . It is creepy to suggest anything else.
    How often do Tom, Athos, and JL agree on something. My gosh it just HAS to be true!

    The best solution is unisex bathrooms. Of course, that isn't a viable solution for elementary schools.
    It would be the dream arrangement for most high school boys. They get to go into a restroom with the girls and not get in trouble!

    Well, that's actually a terrible idea. If you're talking about a single stall RR such as is found in some hospitals, then that's fine, but for multiple people at one time??? 40 year old men in restrooms with 14 years old girls? No. No-No-No.
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    Oct 12, 2021, 03:00 PM
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    It would be the dream arrangement for most high school boys. They get to go into a restroom with the girls and not get in trouble!
    You've never been in a women's washroom, have you.
    Well, that's actually a terrible idea. If you're talking about a single stall RR such as is found in some hospitals, then that's fine, but for multiple people at one time??? 40 year old men in restrooms with 14 years old girls? No. No-No-No.
    One toilet, one sink, lockable door. One person at a time.
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    Oct 12, 2021, 03:47 PM
    One toilet, one sink, lockable door. One person at a time.
    Not happening in public venues
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    Oct 12, 2021, 03:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Not happening in public venues
    How about a third choice, a unisex bathroom next to the mens' and womens'? People with Asperger's and others also on the autism spectrum would welcome that unisex choice.
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    Oct 12, 2021, 04:08 PM
    Unsurprisingly I am not in the habit of going into women’s restrooms. I do know that I don’t want to have a 40 year old man in the restroom with my wife daughter or granddaughter. No no no

    Or we could do the sensible thing and have single gender restrooms. TG people are mentally ill.
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    Oct 12, 2021, 04:24 PM
    What is wrong with having a "family" restroom so no matter the gender it is open to everyone. And next to them have those tailored to individuals like M/F.
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    #30

    Oct 12, 2021, 04:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    TG people are mentally ill.
    All of my TG (and LBGQ+ friends) are just as mentally normal as you are. Oh, wait! What did I just say???

    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    What is wrong with having a "family" restroom so no matter the gender it is open to everyone. And next to them have those tailored to individuals like M/F.
    A unisex washroom would fill the bill. Mom goes in with daughter(s), and Dad goes in with son(s). My family of origin and, later, my own family were never all in the same washroom at once, even when on vacation. Ick!
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    Oct 12, 2021, 04:48 PM
    A man who is convinced he is a she is only mentally normal in your strange world where Ruth and Naomi were lesbian lovers. There is no end to how far you will go in attempting to validate your liberal credentials.
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    Oct 12, 2021, 04:56 PM
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    A man who is convinced he is a she
    It's interesting how hormones are distributed naturally during pregnancy, and especially if they are injected by the OB -- and how those hormones affect the developing fetus.

    Similar to TG and considered evil, students used to have their left arms tied to their bodies so they couldn't use their left hand (the "sinister" one, eeeeew!) to print or write. Or their left hand was smacked repeatedly with a wooden ruler every time the student was caught using his left hand.

    Oh, those two in Genesis, opening up the universe to endless possibilities!
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    Oct 12, 2021, 05:07 PM
    Yep. Endless possibilities of sin and depravity. Well said!
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    Oct 12, 2021, 05:09 PM
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    Yep. Endless possibilities of sin and depravity. Well said!
    Nope. Only love and care. Six of my very best friends are in that community.
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    #35

    Oct 12, 2021, 05:26 PM
    You can’t get that from genesis 3. And besides, we’re you there when it happened?
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    Oct 12, 2021, 06:11 PM
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    You can’t get that from genesis 3.
    Yes, I can.
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    Oct 12, 2021, 06:46 PM
    No you can’t. But by all means take a stab at it. I'd genuinely like to see your thinking on it.
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    Oct 12, 2021, 08:25 PM
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    No you can’t. But by all means take a stab at it. I'd genuinely like to see your thinking on it.
    The universe completely changed. Binary was no longer the norm.
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    #39

    Oct 13, 2021, 03:28 AM
    Probably when Quid talked about it being part of the process he was having flashbacks to when a mob of mostly peaceful protesters stormed the Capitol and confronted Senators ;including cornering one in a Senate elevator ,to protest the Kavanaugh confirmation .


    Senator Sinema was also confronted on a flight by an illegal alien . I wonder how Quid would respond to the appropriateness of a Senator being cornered on a flight by an illegal alien ....or even how it is possible for an illegal alien to have passed through security to board a flight ?
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    Oct 13, 2021, 04:17 AM
    The universe completely changed. Binary was no longer the norm.
    That's an opinion, but it has no connection with Genesis 3. You never even made reference to Genesis 3 which certainly never says or even implies that. It's yet another example of how your religious beliefs come from your political and social persuasions, but certainly not from the Bible. Of course you could have appealed to the famous text in Isaiah which reads, "Surely man shall no longer be binary, but rather there shall be endless possibilities!" Or something like that. (=

    or even how it is possible for an illegal alien to have passed through security to board a flight ?
    That's a chilling thought.

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