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    zyi Posts: 30, Reputation: 3
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    #21

    Dec 7, 2007, 04:22 PM
    Poor child, I feal so sorry for you. I don't think that you are dumb or stupid I do believe that you weren't ever told how devastating this could be to your life. When we are young we think we know how everything will turn out, but that is often not the case. I hope that you are up to this task, because this is going to be a very hard road. I believe that if you are strong enough though that you will make it threw this. You should know right now that you HAVE to finish school, I know atm it doesn't seam like you do but if you don't you will be beyond poor for the rest of your life. Also your baby will not get the things he/she needs. You should look into all of the gov. help you can get. There are several programs out there that can help you. I sugest that if you live in the US to go to planned parenthood, but I would leave out the on purpose part just for your sake. You and the boy will probably be questioned by CPS. But you must stand your ground. I don't have any children, but I have family that has dealt with them. You must remember that this is a long struggle and if you want to win than you will have to fight for every inch. I am courious about how the boy feals about all this and how his parents are takeing the news. Maybe they will help you. I would also suguest you find parenting classes and maybe a psyciritrist. Also remember that this decision means that for the rest of your life your "I wants" are gone because it's not "The baby needs". I think if you can hold strong that you can accomplish this. Oh also if you live in the US try to get into a program called " The Good Health Card" it use to be called the gold card. It's a discount program for low income families.

    I wish you the best of luck with this its going to be a hard life. At 15 I was still intrested in barbies. But I understand why you did it, You did it for someone to love and someone to love you. That doesn't mean that that was a good reason or a right one, but it was probably your reason.
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    Dec 7, 2007, 04:25 PM
    Sorry I have a child on my lap kind of hard to type excuse me if I do not add puntuations or spell right my bad.. even if she said that she already knows she is pregnant right.. is she were to say yha I had sex got pregnant I want to keep the baby what would be the response there who knows and she might be saying she wanted the baby to make a point even if it was an opps she wants to keep baby because she don't know the full extent of what she is in for... she is no doctor neither am I so neither of could tell you want happens to young parents but you could you could explain it to her just so she knows what might happen
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    Dec 7, 2007, 04:26 PM
    Ps: I think your mother is not thinking this threw, this is her grandchild. Weather she is ready to have one or not it is her grandchild.
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    Dec 7, 2007, 04:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by zyi
    Poor child, I feal so sorry for you. I don't think that you are dumb or stupid I do believe that you weren't ever told how devistating this could be to your life. When we are young we think we know how everything will turn out, but that is often not the case. I hope that you are up to this task, because this is going to be a very hard road. I believe that if you are strong enough though that you will make it threw this. You should know right now that you HAVE to finish school, I know atm it doesn't seam like you do but if you don't you will be beyond poor for the rest of your life. Also your baby will not get the things he/she needs. You should look into all of the gov. help you can get. There are several programs out there that can help you. I sugest that if you live in the US to go to planned parenthood, but I would leave out the on purpose part just for your sake. You and the boy will probably be questioned by CPS. But you must stand your ground. I don't have any children, but I have family that has dealt with them. You must remember that this is a long struggle and if you want to win than you will have to fight for every inch. I am courious about how the boy feals about all this and how his parents are takeing the news. Maybe they will help you. I would also suguest you find parenting classes and maybe a psyciritrist. Also remember that this desision means that for the rest of your life your "I wants" are gone because it's not "The baby needs". I think if you can hold strong that you can acomplish this. Oh also if you live in the US try to get into a program called " The Good Health Card" it use to be called the gold card. It's a discount program for low income families.

    I wish you the best of luck with this its going to be a hard life. At 15 I was still intrested in barbies. But I understand why you did it, You did it for someone to love and someone to love you. That doesn't mean that that was a good reason or a right one, but it was probably your reason.

    Well put and I am glad others are here to support her thank you god bless
    And I agree it is her grand child I would be mad but be suportive and love my grand child with all my heart.
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    Dec 7, 2007, 04:53 PM
    It's all going mad with this post. But the end of the story is she is pregnant. I think its to late to ask why she wanted it and did she suduce a young boy or not.
    TONVWILL is there any local place you could go, all call to talk about the options you have?
    I really think you need some advice from pepole that deal with this all the time.
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    #26

    Dec 7, 2007, 05:02 PM
    At 15 with a 13 year old father I am not sure your parents are not right,

    You need counseling first to find the issues in your life that made you believe having a baby at 15 and having sex with someone 13 was a good idea to start with.

    Also with a two year age difference you could even be in trouble and your parents with family and children services. But it is possible that you and your baby could be taken into custody by family and children services,and the baby taken away by them for the welfare of the baby.
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    #27

    Dec 7, 2007, 08:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by connie-mom
    and if she is to dumb to raise a child then how does she know how to seduce a 13 year old boy like come on get a grip are you telling me you never had a one night stand? ... I am not the exception I was just a young girl having sex not knowing what the concequences were till it was to late!!! and how do you not know he was not to instagater!!!! how do you know she is not saying shw wants kids because she is now preg please you don't sound stupid so don't act stupid get facts befor you judge
    Try reading what she said; "I intentionally got pregnant because I wanted a baby." Do you think its smart to get yourself pregnant at 15?

    Yes you are the exception. Most teenage parents wind up in a cycle of poverty and their kids grow up with problems. I'm not saying they can't succeed, but the odds are against it.

    I can only judge based on what she told us.
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    Dec 7, 2007, 09:05 PM
    I don't know where you are from, but look and see if there is a home for unwed mothers in your area. When I got pregnant with my son (19 years ago) I was unmarried, alone, no job, and practically homeless. I went to the welfare department, got ADC/Food Stamps and asked if there was such a place to help unwed young mothers. I was living in Ohio at the time, and I found one in Findlay. It basically is a home, that takes in pregnant women (any age), they set you up with a doctor, ride to and from appointments, assign you a counselor, and have group therapy. It is something to check into. It helped me! They will also help you with adoption or if you're keeping your baby.

    Please look for help kiddo. A mother's love is unconditional. When she realizes you need her right now, she'll come around to her senses.

    I wish you and your baby the best of luck kiddo!
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    #29

    Dec 7, 2007, 09:19 PM
    Tonvwill, consider an open adoption, that way you could possibly keep in contact with the baby. Without the support of his family or your family you have so little options.
    I just am wondering are your parents responsible for the baby since you are under aged.
    Is It their choice to give it up.
    Will you be considered an adult when you have this baby and be responsible for it.
    Right now the boy or his parents bear no responsibilities since paternity can not be established.
    Could the boy and his parents stop an adoption.
    Can the state declare you unfit and make you a ward of the state and take the baby.
    All I can say, you need some serious help, try calling a planned parenthood counselor or A children's hospital and speak to a counselor. They may know the laws in your area regarding such matters.
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    #30

    Dec 7, 2007, 09:23 PM
    I've been reading all these posts to this CHILD. Where in the world is people's humanitarianism?? Who said anything about she seduced HIM?? Maybe it's the other way around! All she said was that she is 15 and the father is 13. Were is the seducing part?? And another thing, BOTH family's could press rape charges on the other. Then again, who said it was rape?? Maybe it was consentual (sp). That child came on here and asked for some type of a parental advice. Yes, she needs to be told about what could lay ahead, but people... have some kind of heart!
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    #31

    Dec 7, 2007, 10:13 PM
    I have a friend who's 15 year old daughter got pregnant by some boy she met at a party. The mother wanted her to give the baby up for adoption, the girl wanted to keep the baby. She kept it, didn't want to have to take care of it all the time, so the child became the grandmother's responsibility.
    And what does this girl do? Two years later, she is pregnant again, different guy.
    I'm all for showing kids understanding, but these young kids need to know they are bringing another human being in the world that has to be cared for and raised. You don't have babies at 15 just because you want one and the government should not have to take care of them. Kids need to be told they are wrong when they do something wrong that has dire consequence.
    I fell sorry for this young lady because she has no clue what she's gotten herself into, and the boy, I don't know what he must be thinking.
    Someone is going to have to raise that child, her mother will probably end up doing it. I just hope she isn't understood and coddled so much that she'll see no problem with getting another baby in a couple of years.
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    Dec 7, 2007, 11:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lilred40
    I've been reading all these posts to this CHILD. Where in the world is people's humanitarianism?????? Who said anything about she seduced HIM??? Maybe it's the other way around!! All she said was that she is 15 and the father is 13. Were is the seducing part??? And another thing, BOTH family's could press rape charges on the other. Then again, who said it was rape??? Maybe it was consentual (sp). That child came on here and asked for some type of a parental advice. Yes, she needs to be told about what could lay ahead, but people.... have some kind of heart!
    Excuse me, but a 15 yr old girl who has sex with a 13 yr old boy and makes the statement; "I intentionally got pregnant because I wanted a baby.", that spells seduction to me. I said it was rape, specifically statutory rape. The father is underage, the girl is older, that makes it statutory rape.

    I do have a heart. I feel for the poor baby that will result from this ill conceived idea. But I have little compassion for an immature child who would corrupt a 13 yr old to become pregnant under these circumstances.
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    #33

    Dec 8, 2007, 08:12 PM
    Yha know what she is 15 she is pregnant and she needs help she also needs to hear actual facts not you seduced or didn't seduce the boy or the baby is having a baby or baby will be taken away by child services!! Lest get a grip! We all have different ideaon this lets not send out the wrong message here she needs to be told the truth but in a nice way she needs to have things explain where a very scared very confused 15 year old gilr can understand it!! We can trow things back and forth at each other but it won't help or change the fact she is pregnant and she is going to have this baby and she has a very big dession to make... but how on gods green earth can she do that is she don't know the meddical facts of what could happen to her or the baby she probbly don't know of any help places in her area and she probbly don't even know where to start on getting this done... being adults some with compation some with out on this subjet need to kep in mind its help she asked for not critisium so put cruel comments aside for one sec and send her all the medical help she could use and any info about your area and things she could look for to help her work through this big dession... and for all those who say a 15 year old don't know what to do with a baby well I hate to burst your bubble but even a 20-40 year old first mother is scared and doesn't know what to do with a new child and most children that go into care are not from young mothers but drug addicted mother who get pregnant and can't look after their child look up the info it will make you head spin I know it did for me!!

    And dear child look for help... ask question and find a qiuet place to think things through in the end its your child.. I know when I found out I was pregnant I was so scared my mom was like yours but I did descide to keep my child who is now over 6 years old and it was hard and I know I sufferd through long nights by myself and a lot of hard ship money troubles and yes I asked the government for help and got on OW (ontario works) when I was old enough but I worked my butt off to get my schooling and have a job and make a life for me and my child.. if you are prepared to work harder then you ever have in you short life and spend sleepless nights up with babe and then going to school then go fot it!! if deep in your heart you know you can do it be strong hold your head high... and never let anyone tell you different.. but do listen to the nice advise and if no one on here can help you with meddical info go do some research on your own make yourself prepared for what ever may come your way... other then that always believe in yourself you may to some have made a mistake.. and to others a bad judgement.. but only you can figure out what you think of this situation and only you know what you want to do so go forward be brave and good luck.. my hopes are with you... and just a word once you reach rock bottom the only way is up!!
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    Dec 8, 2007, 08:17 PM
    Oh and to those who will freek about my typing I have three kids to deal with and I am on here to help out this girl not to get graded on my spelling... and to make a point I got a 5.0 and past an I.Q test with a 195 I don't like to have to prove myself but some on here care more about speling puctuation and grammar then helping out others.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 08:25 PM
    Its not the fact that we care more about your spelling and grammar than this girl, that's not it at all. It's just a little hard to understand what you are trying to get across.
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    #36

    Dec 8, 2007, 08:38 PM
    I understand what you are saying and I'm sure this young lady is thankful for your support.
    I think the problem a lot of people have, is there are just way too many teens getting pregnant on purpose without a clue to what they are getting in to. They just want a baby. They get government help, told it's OK and many of them go on to have another baby.
    While they need to be understood, they also need to know what they are doing is irresponsible and selfish. (I'm speaking of the ones that do it on purpose) These young ladies need to know that if they decide to get pregnant on purpose, they need to have the facts before hand.
    Her concern was not what is available to help her get through this, she wanted to know if her mother could make her give up this baby she got pregnant with on purpose.
    I'm thinking, if you think your grown enough to do this, show me how grown you are by having that figured out before hand. At least have some concept of what you're going to need to care for this child and have a way to do it.
    This is one reason teenagers have no business making babies. They do it with very little thought, then want others to uphold their decision and lend them a hand.
    My advice to her would be to be prepared to lose her teen years. Once this baby is here, the baby is her priority, her responsibility. And then I wish her the best.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 08:50 PM
    lilred40 disagrees: Did she state that she intentionally wanted to get pregnant by that 13 year old boy? No. She stated she intentionally wanted to get prengant. Unfortunately, it happened to be him. What if the boy was 17 instead of 13? Would your views be any differ?

    First, may I call your attention to the guidelines for using the comments feature found here:

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/feedba...ure-24951.html

    She had sex with a 13 yr old boy to get herself pregnant. That's the key point. My views would differ if she hadn't preyed on a 13 yr old, but not appreciably. The key is that she deliberately went about getting pregnant.

    To Connie,
    We ARE telling her the facts. There is a strong likelihood that she committed statutory rape. There is a goood possibility that she may be prosecuted for it.

    Remember she didn't ask about health issues or support. Her question was whether the baby could be taken away from her. That's the question that I was answering.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 10:02 PM
    I believe that it is both posiable that she could lose it or she could keep it a lot depends on who her social worker is. If she has the determination then a social worker may send her to a unwed mothers home (which in my opinion might be the best since her mom isn't any help) or they might just take the baby away all together. I feal so sorry for this girl she has compleetly ruined her teen years and quite posiably the rest of her life if things go a certain way. But I also know of several girls that at 15 got to keep their babies. Some of them had them taken away years after because of neglect or other things, but there are just as many who didn't have them taken away it all depends on what type of mother they turn out to be. I don't wish to say that I think it is write for children to have babies, but if you think about it it wasn't all that many years ago that parents married off their girls at 15 and 16. Was it right, no it should have been the girls wishes but they had no say so in it. I think that everyone is going a little overboard with all the crazyness and are not sticking to the topic. Yes the question was could her mother make her give it up, but I think that she should be given a more indept answer. I think maybe she needs to decide if she is strong enough to do this and is this a right decision for her. I have to agree she shouldn't have done this because ultimatly she has ruined the life she would have had, but then she could make it into a good life. Now it all depends on her. If she would like some help finding resources I will be glad to look up what I can, the internet is a vast wealth of knowledge. I so far haven't came across the info for her original question but I'm batteling the flu and a migraine so I can't sit here that long.

    PS: my spelling is horiable but the spell checker keeps comeing up with weird words so I gave up on it lol.

    And yes there are to many young girls having children these days but what I want to know is where are their parents? No spanking and putting rules down means wild children. Its sad, when I have children you better believe they will have rules and spankings and they will not be alone with boys... silly parents.
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    #39

    Dec 9, 2007, 12:28 AM
    Okay, first off... I had to skip so many of your post because it is making me cross-eyed. An occasional misspelling is one thing, complete destruction of the written english language is another. At least try! Being new to the site... I would suggest you make friends before enemies.

    Secondly, Has any else here thought... The mother wasn't there to teach her daughter right from wrong (having sex at 15!? ), then how would you expect her to be there to raise her daughters child (when she can't raise her own)?

    Connie-Mom: You asked if anyone has had a one-night stand? Yes when I was 20 something and paying my own way... no child should be having sex at 15! Sex is for adults!! Because you need to be an adult to deal with the consequences. I also agree this shouldn't be a bash session, but in my opinion... you started it. Father Chuck may have been a little blunt (he is know for that), but most of his advise is dead on! (Research for yourself).

    I would never give my child up for adoption, but I am/was also obviously a lot more responsible than the OP. She can not feed the child, clothe the child, diaper the child or teach the child (she has a lot to learn herself). Hell, my 2yo can hold a child... there is more (as you all know) to raising a child.

    All that being said... tonvwill: You have made a mistake, time to make the best of your decisions. If your mom is not willing to help, do you have other family that would be willing to help you? An Aunt willing to take both (you and your new baby) of you in? Where is your dad? I don't think you are a bad person, or necessarily would be a bad mom... you just haven't been taught right. That, my dear, is not your fault.
    The only thing you can do now is raise your head, your sights and your standards. Get to working on plan B, but looks like with no help Plan A (adoption) will have to work for you (it's what is best for the baby). Try maybe looking into a private adoption, where you would still have contact with your child.

    Either way... good luck to you and your family. Keep us updated.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 01:05 AM
    Tonvwill I don't think it was such a good idea to get pregnant at such a young age. If you choose to keep the child you will soon learn how hard and expensive it is for anybody of any age, let alone 15. I wish you the best.

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