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    labella Posts: 27, Reputation: 4
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    #41

    Aug 25, 2008, 09:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by no1brownsugar
    oh my gosh, sounds serious. when did you stop using it, as in, how long into using it were you until you stopped?
    I stopped using it on my face about 1 week ago when I noticed the dark patches. Some posters have said it was too strong for the face. I'm going into my 5th month with no problems until now. I did go on vacation and got tanned so maybe that's what happened, but even still I shouldn't have to dodge the sun because I am afraid of dark patches! Or this could just be another part of the lightening process. I'm willing to go through changes on my body but not on my face. My body looks great though!
    So, when the patches go away, I will use the Bio Claire maybe every other day to maintain, but not every day. I was using the soap and the lotion it lighten my face too fast anyway. I was looking pale. I'll keep you posted.
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    #42

    Aug 25, 2008, 09:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Vicky_D
    BioClaire does not contain HQ. It's the non-HQ version.

    It used to contain HQ, two years ago. But now they sell a non-HQ version, hence the label, "non-HQ".

    Monobenzone is actually closer in form to HQ (hello, monobenzyl ether of HQ), and far more dangerous than BioClaire (which has no HQ at all), if you want to bet technical. And no, it's not "smuggled into the country". If that was the case, why do I see it in every Asian hair store I go to out here in Maryland/Baltimore? lol you're a mess!

    Again, BioClaire=no HQ.

    Disagree but to each its own
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    #43

    Aug 25, 2008, 11:52 AM
    labella I think you got the patches caus you got tanned from the sun. tha occurs when using strong skin lighteners. Well if you stop using it on yr face you go even darker. I can't advise you to keep using it either.
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    #44

    Aug 25, 2008, 12:02 PM
    It could be your skins response to over usage of the product, give your face a break for some time
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    #45

    Aug 25, 2008, 12:22 PM
    I agree with kpangor and lighterrr, I'm going to stop using it for a while. I heard the dark patches do go away. I was at the beach in direct sunlight for 2 weeks and I didn't use sunblock on my face. I hate putting it on my face but I guess I should have. Aaaarrrggh!
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    #46

    Aug 25, 2008, 02:15 PM
    Me too I don't do suncreens but when out on the beach you have too

    Any new posts yet?lollllll well I keep seeing veins... now on my upper tights . I think I might just give up on because 4 couple of weeks and then start again.it keeps lightenin me but am not feeling the veiny look lolll
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    #47

    Aug 27, 2008, 04:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by lighterrr
    it could be your skins response to over usage of the product, give your face a break for some time

    Hey Lighterr didn't you post the research article about bio claire?
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    #48

    Aug 27, 2008, 02:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by gneiss
    Hey Lighterr didn't you post the research article about bio claire?
    Yeah he/she did... the outdated one from two years ago that talked about an old type of BioClaie that contained HQ.
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    #49

    Aug 27, 2008, 11:11 PM
    Lollllllllllll
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    #50

    Aug 28, 2008, 07:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Vicky_D
    Yeah he/she did...the outdated one from two years ago that talked about an old type of BioClaie that contained HQ.
    I honestly think that article is valid. Maybe it does not apply to the lotion nor oil. But for SURE it applies to the cream. You cannot smell that cream and say there is nothing harmful in it. There are steorids or hq in the cream.
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    #51

    Aug 28, 2008, 01:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by gneiss
    I honestly think that article is valid. Maybe it does not apply to the lotion nor oil. But for SURE it applies to the cream. You cannot smell that cream and say there is nothing harmful in it. There are steorids or hq in the cream.

    You can smell steroids now? And how are you so "SURE?" Have you read something recent & creditble? Have you taken Bio Claire to a chemist and had a chemical breakdown of the prduct? Do you have some inside intellectual patent information on the ingredients you would like to share? Do you have some court documents? Have they been sued for misrepresenting themselves? OR did you just come to this conclusion just because it "smells funny so therefore it aint right?"
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    #52

    Aug 28, 2008, 01:17 PM
    Hun do you go to college? Many time the professor will tell you a research article that's is two years old is still valid information(sometimes even five years old).

    I was using bio claire but I stopped in fear of what hq does for long term usage. A member on another board who is from the ivory coast clearly gave valid information about the company. She was not trying to tell people to stop using the product because she used it as well. But she wanted to inform people because there are serious side affects to long term usage of hq.

    I have seen many lightening creams that states exactly what is the active ingrediant in lightening products. Weather it is arbutin, hq, kojic acid(which is inside) but the active ingrediant is "Natural bio vegetal activator"? What exactly is that?

    I would rather be paronoid and safe, then in the long run have a messed up face and possibly other longterm affects.
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    #53

    Aug 28, 2008, 01:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by gneiss
    Hun do you go to college? Many time the professor will tell you a research article thats is two years old is still valid information(sometimes even five years old).

    I was using bio claire but i stopped in fear of what hq does for long term usage. A member on another board who is from the ivory coast clearly gave valid information about the company. She was not trying to tell people to stop using the product because she used it as well. But she wanted to inform people because there are serious side affects to long term usage of hq.

    I have seen many lightening creams that states exactly what is the active ingrediant in lightening products. Weather it is arbutin, hq, kojic acid(which is inside) but the active ingrediant is "Natural bio vegetal activator"? What exactly is that?

    I would rather be paronoid and safe, then in the long run have a messed up face and possibly other longterm affects.

    2nd year in the nursing program at Georgia State University. How did you guess? Research article info found off the INTERNET is NOT creditble or acceptable in any of my classes or by any professor. But I am a critical thinker. And if another poster gave valid information. Good because valid is the magic word here. Can you forward that information from the poster? There obviously is a concern and I'm sure some other posters would like to read that information also.

    I'm in the US. We have the FDA (Food & Drug Administration) and we have the Homeland Security Anti-Terrorist division. You can't just slap a label on a product and sell it to Americans. A product can't have hq and steroids or dangerous chemicals in it and not be on the label. Especially, from an African nation. Now if you want to mention paranoid... Americans are not putting anything in their mouthes or on their bodies, that comes out of Africa, the Middle East and some parts of Asia, unless we know what the hell is in it. PERIOD!

    Bio: Life , Vegetal: Of, relating to, or characteristic of plants, Activator: To convert (certain biological compounds) into biologically active derivatives
    Bio Vegetal Activator: The active ingredients come from a live plant base. Would be an educated guess. What that live plant base is? They are obviously not telling the competition. And they don't have too as long as they say the activator is vegetal.

    I want to be safe too.. but being paranoid sucks.
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    #54

    Aug 28, 2008, 06:34 PM
    You are so into this bioclaire that its hard to get into you thick heads, listen and take heed not because your skin is lightening dramatically you think its all "peaches and cream" do some research ,I surely did not ,listen to the person who you are calling paranoid because she probably know what she's talking about!!
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    #55

    Aug 28, 2008, 09:29 PM
    Waow Seriously This Bio=claire Product Aparently Creating Debate Lollllllllllllll One Thing I Have To Say Is Tha Bio=claire Is A Good Product And Very Effective On Me Lol As Far As Containing Hq Nooooooooo Way But Steroid Don't know!!
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    #56

    Aug 29, 2008, 05:25 AM
    The definition of crazy doing the same thing over and over again expectiong different results. And stupid is signing to a blind man expecting an answer. So that's what this "debate" has turned into, crazy & stupid, so I'm done posting on it.

    My dark patches on my face are fading. YEAH! It's been two weeks since I stopped using BC and I haven't gotten darker. I think it might have been the sun exposure. I will give it another week and try the BC again. Keep you guys posted!
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    #57

    Aug 29, 2008, 06:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by labella
    The definition of crazy doing the same thing over and over again expectiong different results. And stupid is signing to a blind man expecting an answer. So that's what this "debate" has turned into, crazy & stupid, so I'm done posting on it.

    My dark patches on my face are fading. YEAH! It's been two weeks since I stopped using BC and I haven't gotten darker. I think it might have been the sun exposure. I will give it another week and try the BC again. Keep you guys posted!

    Hun, I never told you not to use the product. If you are pertaining that quote to me. You need to reverse that back to you. You are protecting something down to the bone, as if you took it to the lab and tested it yourself. You are so much on the defense about bio claire that you will not even open up your mind and try to be careful. And when I state careful just knowing that if you are using hq, you can only use it about 2 months or so(not exactly sure.)The FDA does not approve everything FDA/CFSAN Cosmetics Quiz Question 1

    If I am going to use something for long term usage I would want to know exactly what is inside. I fear using something that could possibly be harmful on to my face. There is a place in NYC where so many women lighten their skin. As result they have black and green patches on their face and also some parts of their skin burnt off. Im not trying to turn into the hulk with those green patches!


    I would rather listen to someone who has lived the experience(from the ivory coast), knows about the company, has used bio claire and not try to tell people not too, but for others to be aware of what is inside. And read an article that is two years old. I will be "crazy, paranoid" but I won't be sorry.

    Good luck and try not to use bio claire as long term usage.
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    #58

    Aug 29, 2008, 09:41 AM
    Your FDA Link was from December 2000 way BEFORE The FDA united with Homeland Security AFTER 9/11 in Oct 2003. Damnit I got sucked in again! Call me crazy... lol!

    Anyway, I haven't gotten darker in 2 weeks after I stopped using it so, I think I can give myself some breaks. I might just use the Bio Claire only in the summer or once a twice a week to maintain. I don't like that pale veiny look anyway. I just like the brighter complexion I got.
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    #59

    Aug 30, 2008, 06:30 PM
    Hiya, I suffer from dark underarms and was wondering which product would be good to lighten them. Would you recommend either bio-claire or black soap?
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    Aug 31, 2008, 07:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by labella
    Your FDA Link was from December 2000 way BEFORE The FDA united with Homeland Security AFTER 9/11 in Oct 2003. Damnit I got sucked in again! Call me crazy...lol!

    Anyway, I haven't gotten darker in 2 weeks after I stopped using it so, I think I can give myself some breaks. I might just use the Bio Claire only in the summer or once a twice a week to maintain. I don't like that pale veiny look anyway. I just like the brighter complexion I got.

    Hun, I got it directly through the FDA homepage. Even though that quiz was from 2000, the rule still stands as of today. This here is from 2005 AFTER 2003, it states the same thing US FDA/CFSAN Cosmetics - FDA Authority Over Cosmetics

    Many people know that lightening products that are made in Africa are not necessarily safe regardless if it is sold in the U.S. You may not have seen a large amount africans that have lightened their skin but I have. They look terrible! And that's what scares ME, that's why I no longer use it. I would rather be uncertain and safe than look like a monster years down the line. You can sit that and swear on the product as if you know people directly who made it, but I will not trust a lightening product that is made in the ivory coast. And that is just my opinion.

    As stated before, just becareful not to make long term usage of bio claire.

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