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    lotti Posts: 46, Reputation: 2
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    #61

    May 9, 2005, 05:23 AM
    "melatonin" Hi yellowgal85,

    As I can see on your replies in the internet your are very interseted in skin whitening. Nevertheless you didn`t order l-glutathione pills until now nor use them. WHY?? To wate is a waste of time! It took time to order and 3-6 month until you might see results.
    I have ordered 10 bottles (600 pills Lucida DS) from unitedshelter and 300pills (Aktive White) from ganda. There is no problem at all to find a seller of l-glutathione pills. What is your problem? Everything arrived to me!!
    I am using l-glutathione pills now (2500 mg each day) in the correct dosis with vit C since a month. It`s to short to say something but I know that I am doing something and will know more soon! ;)
    - sorry - It`s more better to try/change something instead of wailing and wasting time.

    Ps. Forget melatonin!! It`s a sleeping hormon. It`s harmful for your body!
    I have even used it years ago on myself and there are no results!
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    #62

    May 9, 2005, 06:57 PM
    Hey lotti.

    Lol. I hear what you're saying. I am taking so long to find what I want... but I admitt that I'm a little scared... I don't want to waste my money on anything else... I don't want something potenially dangerous to my body/health... I don't want something damaging... I don't want to be worse off than I am now... I want to be good to myself when it comes to something so dangerous/tricky, you know. I'm nineteen years old... I have time to research for a bit. I want to find something that's real/right/safe/natural. If there is such a thing. I don't have money to be constantly wasting on phonies... I'll be deciding soon on what I'll try. Thanks for the words lottie.
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    monica Posts: 43, Reputation: 1
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    #63

    May 10, 2005, 05:31 PM
    Hello Realhipchick,

    I’m considering using fair and flawless. I’ve been getting very good feedback on their products, but they’re very expensive.

    Do you happen to know anything about their lightening pills?
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    Skinwhite Posts: 77, Reputation: 6
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    #64

    May 10, 2005, 09:27 PM
    Yellow,y don't u hurry and try the glut so we can find out if it works or not?
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    Skinwhite Posts: 77, Reputation: 6
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    #65

    May 10, 2005, 09:28 PM
    monica what are the ing of fair and flawless pilss? Does it have glutathone too?
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    lotti Posts: 46, Reputation: 2
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    #66

    May 11, 2005, 04:54 AM
    Hi guyz,

    It`s nice and very interesting to watch this strong lively participation on this side. Well we all have the same problem and wish!
    Yellowgal85 it`s nice to hear that you are only 19 years old but I am 29 and I am spending now 11 years by looking for real skin whiter.
    It`s correct that I have had a problem with ganda. But now everything is okay, maybe it was the guilt of the customer clearance.
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    realhipchick Posts: 5, Reputation: 1
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    #67

    May 11, 2005, 06:58 AM
    Fair and Flawless (mistake)
    Sorry, Monica. I made a mistake. When I went back home, I realized it said, "Fair and White -Paris" as the name brand, and not "Fair and Flawless". My bad :o

    And Lotti, thank you for clearing that up for me. And which pills are you using right now, the pills from united shelter or the Asia White pills from ganda?

    If Fair and Flawless has pills, I will check into. I want to be a guinee pig, like lotti LOL! As soon as I am satisfied with my research, I will finally order and begin the experimentation.

    Possible Candidates

    1. Glut pills from United Shelter

    2. Asia White

    3. Fair & Flawless

    ~Real.
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    monica Posts: 43, Reputation: 1
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    #68

    May 11, 2005, 09:49 AM
    Hello skinwhite,

    Actually I’m not really sure what ingredients fair and flawless pill has. But I read somewhere that you can get the creams and pills (if they even do have pills) custom made if you send them pictures.
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    monica Posts: 43, Reputation: 1
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    #69

    May 11, 2005, 10:08 AM
    That’s okay realhipchick we all make mistakes! :)

    If you want to look into F&F’s products you can check out their website (fairandflawless.com)

    I emailed them questions about their pills and but they have yet to respond. I had emailed them questions before about their products but they said I should just check-out their website instead, which I found odd. But even still, I know they’re creams work very well... the prices is the only killer.
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    #70

    May 11, 2005, 06:39 PM
    Fair & Flawless
    Monica, that does sound weird that they don't answer your questions...

    I would like to know if they put any bad ingredients in their products (kojac acid, hydroquinine, etc). Those kind of questions should never be unanswered.

    I printed and filled out their 4-page health questionare and I am going to submit it along with a picture of me and a picture of an individual who has the desired skin color I want. This is the process for their "customed-designed lightening sets. I will send it off tomorrow and hopefully they won't quote me some incredibally ridiculous amount of money for it.

    Maybe they will see that I am serious after I submit the form and can ask them some questions. Any questions you want me to ask them if I get their attention?

    OH, I just found their NUMBER!!! You could also call them at:
    Phone: 1-516-620-4210

    or

    Toll Free: 1-877-288-6140



    ~Real
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    Skinwhite Posts: 77, Reputation: 6
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    #71

    May 11, 2005, 10:54 PM
    I was at my friends house today, her dad is a dermatologist. I showed him the website of fair and flaless and he laughed and said it is the most ridiculous thing that he has ever heard to submit pictures for a custom made formula. There is no such thing and those claims should not be trusted. He said skin is individualized and the lightening is not determined by the formula, but by the melanocyts... something or other :confused: reaction to a cream. He also said for what they are charging you could go to a professional and get proper care, and not to trust such false statements. He looked at me with his bearing eyes and said your not thinking of trying it are you? I felt scared! I said no sir. He said good because you can damage your skin by trusting such nonsense.

    So then I asked him what would work. He said hydroquinone is the most common way, but that is not the answer to my problems since it's not a one time cure. He is going to put me on a combination of Retin A micro and something else... I think he said liquitin or something like that. He said next time I come over, he'll give me samples. I can't wait!
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    lotti Posts: 46, Reputation: 2
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    #72

    May 12, 2005, 01:49 AM
    HI Skinwhite ;)

    Well I have already move into position to ganda. Everything is okay and there is nothing more to say!! All right :eek:
    As I have already written it was maybe the guilt of the customer clearance!!

    I am happy for you that your friend`s dad is a dermatologist. Over the last 11 years I have consult more than 30 dermatologists within a radius of 700 km.
    No one of them was able to help me anyway. This is even the reason of this side! Dermatologist have no knowledge in this case. Hydrochinon he told, or? Every dermatologist will tell you that stuff.
    However ask your friend`s DAD (the dermatologist) what he skin about l-glutathione in high dosis with vit C. as a skinwhitner?
    Ciao
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    Skinwhite Posts: 77, Reputation: 6
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    #73

    May 12, 2005, 06:46 AM
    OK whatever- I was trying to just share what I heard about fair and flwls to save peoples money and more imprtntly there skin.

    Oh by the way, you were prob seeing white derms that have no knowledge - my friend and her dad are Spanish so can relate. He also said from his country that mercury was very common there and many peeps were poisoned from skin ltng creams. He said other creams had steroids and peeps using it for over 3 years found their skin covered in hair,blotchy and suffered from cyst acne until he had to correct it. Many companies having bad reputation there will try to sell in this country under diff names, since US and FDA can not check every item or website.

    U said every dr says hydrochinon - well then there must be a reason why all are saying. He said if I want to lighten more than spots or specific areas, hydrochinon is no good bcs you have to keep using and can be cytotoxic if you keep using. Well I've said enof. Hope I have helped some.
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    lotti Posts: 46, Reputation: 2
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    #74

    May 12, 2005, 10:46 AM
    Obagi Hi skinwhite,

    Well it`s nice to read your new reply but my only quesition was to know what your friend`s DAD (the dermatologist) think about l-glutathione in high dosis together with vit C. as a skin whitener. Only his opinion and this isn`t anwered at all. :confused:
    I used until now numbers of creams (even with hydrochinon and also obagi) without any long term success and I could not believe that there exist a real lightening cream. :eek:
    The opinion of your friend`s dad would be interesting to this forum and to me.
    So let hear from you!!
    I`m still using now l-glutathione pills 2500mg together with 3000mg vit C. since over a month but it will/should take 3 to 6 month to see if it works.
    They don`t even promise success overnight so I still have to wait. Until now I couldn`t even find any reply of experience together with l-glutathione that I could really trust. Maybe it`s all a big fake?? - I don`t know now! Sometimes it seems to me a little bit strange that only Philippines companies sell this pills but who knows maybe they have more knowledge there in this case. Whatever I have about 800pills (each with 500mg l-glutathione) at home and I still take them on! Until now (about a month) I couldn`t recognise any changes. All right
    I hope to hear from you guyz and maybe someone who visit this side has even long term experience with l-glutathione on her/him -self.

    Ciao ;)

    Ps. As you could find on an old reply from me anywhere in this forum I have already even used OBAGI and it is for nothing the biggest waste of money at all!!
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    Skinwhite Posts: 77, Reputation: 6
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    #75

    May 12, 2005, 09:31 PM
    I couldn't answer your question because it's not like I see him everyday you know. I'm going to her house again some time next week - I'll be sure to ask then and will let you know. I think you got that right, the only ones selling is Philippine companies and the only ones saying it works so great is the ones that sell them :D
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    #76

    May 13, 2005, 04:00 AM
    Asainskinwhite
    Hi everyone

    I am new to this forum. I spent a year searching for skin white pills and finally brought speedwhite (3 months supply) they did NOT work. I wrote back to the company asainskinwhite.com and told them it made my skin darker and gave me spots and I did not see results.

    They replied they do not give money back guarantee to international buyers and that they could not scan there certificate as they are "not allowed" I sk them to post it to me but that no luck

    I asked them to give me names of there bulk buyers they also told me they were "not allowed" despite the fact they displays there international suppliers details on there web site. They said most demo recommend there product but could give me the details!! I don't know if anyone have had dealings with them!!

    LET ME KNOW THE PILLS MAKES AND COMPANY NAME OTHERE PEOPLE ARE USING COS I REALLY WANT SOMETHING THAT WORKS
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    #77

    May 13, 2005, 10:23 AM
    HI GUYS
    Haven't been on the site for a while, seems like I have missed quite a bit. But I have been doing some more research. Hey lotti I also have ordered my pills from unitedshelter like I said, but I am giong to pick mine up from one of the suppliers in the uk, when they arrive. That is so true that only the phillipeans only know about l-glutathione, because I went to a chineese herbalist who you think would mabey have heard of it but she didn't even know what I was talking about. I went to my [italien] dermotologist who I see under the NHS [here in the ENGLAND] and she said she has heard of skinwhitening pills that work but have bad side effects, and before I could say any thing else she said DO NOT USE them. But the main thing guys is that she called it a different name, nothing like l-glutathione or any other pills mentioned on the site. Im going to book another appoitment and ask her if she's heard of l-glutathione with vitamin c to work. But I no there is something because look at Michale Jackson [ even though he has gone to far], little kim, and even people from my country where I originate, they were once black and are very light now from head to toe in a very short space of time.
    Keep researching, something will work
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    monica Posts: 43, Reputation: 1
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    #78

    May 13, 2005, 08:07 PM
    Hi realhipchick, I’m not sure what ingredients FnF contains, quite frankly I know nothing about their products, Just hearsay, since the reply to my questions was vague. But I hope they at least respond to your request and concerns. Good Luck!

    The lady in the before & after pics spent about $1000 to get to that complexion with the custom made products. But I also heard that without continuous usage of FnF, your natural complexion will shortly return after you stop. However, I’m not sure how much truth this holds. Not sure if I want to find out for myself either.

    I’m still trying to find if they really make custom made pills, I’m also still waiting for a response. Can you please try asking them? I’ll probably give them a call but I’m going to keep searching for new solutions.

    Thanks!
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    monica Posts: 43, Reputation: 1
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    #79

    May 13, 2005, 08:08 PM
    Hi Skinwhite,

    Please do share the name and ingredients when you receive the samples.
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    lotti Posts: 46, Reputation: 2
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    #80

    May 14, 2005, 04:05 AM
    Michal Jackson, creams; :mad:

    Hi guyz,

    I think some guyz on this side are on the wrong way and maybe even on the wrong side!! :(

    This side is about "skinwhitening pills" and not about creams and stuff like "Fair & Flawless". ( Nevertheless I have e-mailed them with a few question, without an anwer until now) Until now I have used numbers of creams (contain: hydochinon, kojac acid, vit. C, arbutin.. and creams from obagi, godiva.. ) without any long term success and without any, bad, harmful side effects!
    I even can`t believe that there is a cream that will really help someone in this case.
    In my opinion the only way to lighten up, is to stop the production of melanin FROM INSIDE by using pills, foodstuff or something like that.

    I don`t think that someone hold Michael Jackson up as a model.
    What I know about M.J. "lightening-process" is that she/he oxidise her/his melanzyten over the years. So Michael Jackson has no body``s defences against the sun! M.J. or that what she/he/it did shouldn`t be a model for someone on this side!

    It`s is ill!!

    Ciao Lotti

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