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    Oneill474 Posts: 427, Reputation: 2
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    May 9, 2007, 12:13 PM
    explanation of benefits
    I received my explanation of benefits. The x-ray I had taken were
    complete paid for by my HMO Medicare.Total Patient Responsibility 0


    One x-ray was submitted Charge of $200.00 but the eligible
    amount was only $35.67

    What do they do negotiate over the price?

    Patient Responsibility was zero
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    May 9, 2007, 12:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Oneill474
    I received my explanation of benefits. the xray I had taken were
    complete paid for by my HMO Medicare.Total Patient Responsibility 0


    One xray was submitted Charge of $200.00 but the eligible
    amount was only $35.67

    What do they do negotiate over the price??

    Patient Responsibility was zero
    Actually, If they are a participant of an HMO the price are pre-determined. So, what ever the HMO does not pay the lab/doctor makes an adjustsment.
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    May 9, 2007, 12:19 PM
    They sure do. The doctor accepts the reduced amount because they want the medicare customers. Volume discount, I guess you can call it.

    One of my son's specialists doesn't take insurance at all. I have to pay all of it out of pocket then file my own and take whatever they "allow." Usually it is only a third of the amount I paid.
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    May 9, 2007, 12:19 PM
    Yes, your insurance company has a pre-negotiated rate with the service provider. In this case the provider agrees to accept only $35.67 if it's the insurance company paying the bill. A good example of the power of being a major insuracnce company who can negotiate such great rates compared to what a person off the street would have to pay.
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    May 9, 2007, 12:41 PM
    It is called a DRG. It is a set amount of money for specific diagnoses and procedures.

    The hospital/doctor agrees to accept the amount of money that the insurance company has set up for the particular diagnosis or procedure, the balance is then written off by the hospital/doctor and cannot be passed back to the patient.
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    May 9, 2007, 05:06 PM
    When a doctor becomes part of a HMO network, or a PPO next work, they agree to accept as full payment a specific amount, for example my wife had surgary at a major hospital in Nashville last Jan, the billed amount was slightly over 10,000 but on he EOB the insurance discount ( basically lowing it to the agreed price, was nearly 6500 dollars, leaving about 3500 as the billable amount, since this was a PPO not a HMO there was a deductable and co pay, but the hospital had an agreement in pricing. This is an important factor in these types of policies, having the ageed to pricing.

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