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    Mar 9, 2023, 05:37 AM
    International Woman's day
    Yesterday ,to honor women ;Clueless Joe gave a award to a man.

    Alba Ruida is a biological male transformer . He was given the 2023 'Woman of Courage ' award .

    In the Great White North ,Justin Trudeau marked the day by proclaiming “trans women are women” .

    I tend to agree with Tulsi Gabbard on this issue.

    If we really want to celebrate #InternationalWomensDay, the most important thing to do is recognize that women exist and are biologically different from men. We as women are not an imaginary construct in someone’s mind. Unless we speak up about this obvious truth, women will be erased as an entire category of peopleTulsi Gabbard 🌺 on Twitter: "If we really want to celebrate #InternationalWomensDay, the most important thing to do is recognize that women exist and are biologically different from men. We as women are not an imaginary construct in someone’s mind. Unless we speak up about this obvious truth, women will be…" / Twitter
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    Mar 9, 2023, 06:52 AM
    Good post. I copied this one to FB.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 10:24 AM
    Just because you LOOK LIKE a male below the waist when naked doesn't mean you ARE one. There more to being male than the physical appearance.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 10:34 AM
    Well, there would be your sex chromosomes. His are XY, which makes him a man, a man from the very moment of conception.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 10:37 AM
    What are his reasons?
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    Mar 9, 2023, 10:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Well, there would be your sex chromosomes. His are XY, which makes him a man, a man from the very moment of conception.
    How do you know?
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    Mar 9, 2023, 10:52 AM
    Uhm...well, let's see here. Ole Alba was born a man (not named "Alba" then) with male sex organs BECAUSE he had XY sex chromosomes. That's kind of how it works, you see.

    Read this very carefully if you want to continue this. Educate yourself.

    https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article...Y%20chromosome.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 11:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Uhm...well, let's see here. Ole Alba was born a man (not named "Alba" then) with male sex organs BECAUSE he had XY sex chromosomes. That's kind of how it works, you see.

    Read this very carefully if you want to continue this. Educate yourself.

    https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article...Y%20chromosome.
    Obviously, he WAS NOT born with XY sex chromosomes. And something else was going on with hormones.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 11:12 AM
    Obviously, he WAS NOT born with XY sex chromosomes.
    You are seriously suggesting that a boy born with male genitalia only did not have an XY chromosomal pair? I'm trying to give you an out on this before you go down a looney trail.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 11:15 AM
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    You are seriously suggesting that a boy born with male genitalia only did not have an XY chromosomal pair? I'm trying to give you an out on this before you go down a looney trail.
    Yes, he could have Klinefelter Syndrome.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 11:37 AM
    The odds are about 1000 to 1 against it, but even at that, he would STILL have XY chromosomes, just having an additional X or Y chromosome. These individuals are STILL MEN. So you are wrong on both counts.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 11:43 AM
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    But even at that, these individuals are STILL MEN. So you are wrong on both counts.
    Not true. My good friend, a medical person, has gone through this. She is a beautiful woman. She was a DES baby with more estrogen than testosterone.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 11:48 AM
    Another old wives tale. When you are wrong on the science, as you are now, you always appeal to a story about a person you supposedly know.

    Please, please educate yourself. "Klinefelter syndrome is a genetic condition that results when a boy is born with an extra copy of the X chromosome. Klinefelter syndrome is a genetic condition affecting males, and it often isn't diagnosed until adulthood."

    Klinefelter Syndrome. - Search (bing.com)

    Once you learn something, come back. And lest that sound a little testy, I can only plead as to how this is an ongoing pattern that gets kind of old.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 12:05 PM
    That's right about KS. She suffered awfully through childhood and her teens, until finally....

    She is a member of the smallest minority section of trans people.

    Plus, the DES pulled the nail out of the male coffin.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 12:21 PM
    Not content to be wrong once, you bring up the already discredited DES fairytale so you can be wrong twice. Wonder what the third one will be?
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    Mar 9, 2023, 12:23 PM
    Let's face facts ;biological women are being marginalized by the woke agenda . They think it is perfectly acceptable for a biological male transformer to whoop on a woman in athletics and to get awarded where women rightly got recognized in the past .
    In the last year Ruida gets the Women of Courage award ;Rachel Levine the USA Today's Woman of the Year ;Lia Thomas nominated for the 2022 NCAA Woman of the Year ;Fae Johnstone the Hershey's International Women’s Day honoree.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 12:24 PM
    O ye of little faith! Instead of reading crappy links, talk with real people, people who have endured this. And have found ways to improve their lives and health.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 12:31 PM
    O ye of little faith! Instead of reading crappy links, talk with real people, people who have endured this. And have found ways to improve their lives and health.
    Translation. "I have no science to support my views, so I will appeal to my imaginary people."

    Tom, your point is valid and sad. In their misguided zeal to promote mental illness, the libs are refusing to acknowledge the many deserving women out there.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 12:56 PM
    I have the science noted on Word in my pc. Will roll over there to find it.
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    Mar 9, 2023, 02:07 PM
    We'll see.

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