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    Mar 7, 2023, 07:59 AM
    Kangaroo Court exposed
    Unfiltered video that the Jan 6 Kangaroo court sham hearings did not bother to show in their slick produced narration of events on January 6 reveal a different tale of the riot . True it was a riot . But that is only part of the story

    Jacob Chansley; the so called “QAnon Shaman.” who walked around the Capitol with a horned hat on his head has become a symbol ; the face of the day.

    But video evidence tells a different tale than what we were led to believe. He did not break into the Capitol. He was escorted in by Capitol Police who acted as his personal tour guide.
    This included walking him past other police who were hanging our by the Senate Chambers .None tried to stop and detain him Inside they escorted him to various locked doors . Then they helped him open one .

    Now Chansley who is a Navy Vet is serving a 4 year sentence for his role .
    To put that into perspective ;Jefferson Davis ;the President of the Confederacy ;an open armed conflict against the United States that cost an estimated 620,000 American deaths and countless more lives damaged ,served 2 years for insurrection .
    Chansley has already served a longer sentence.

    The kangaroo court had the same video footage but chose to not release it because it did not fit in with their narrative .There is thousands more hours of tape to scrutinize now that it all has been released .
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    Mar 7, 2023, 09:57 AM
    Why was he dressed in such an off-putting way?
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    Mar 7, 2023, 11:50 AM
    Is dressing in an "off-putting way" (to you) a federal crime???
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    Mar 7, 2023, 12:47 PM
    Does Antifa dressing in black and black face masks to peacefully protest by attacking police officers with fireworks ,Molotov cocktails and rocks bother you ?

    And why hasn't Antifa been designated a domestic terrorist insurrection ?

    Atlanta police say protesters launched fireworks at officers - YouTube
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    Mar 7, 2023, 12:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Is dressing in an "off-putting way" (to you) a federal crime???
    Yes, if it's threatening.
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    Mar 7, 2023, 01:14 PM
    "Off-putting" (to WG) and "threatening" are hardly synonymous. And even then, I've never felt "threatened" by someone's shirt, and certainly not to the level of pressing charges against them.
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    Mar 7, 2023, 02:16 PM
    Be a very short, very tiny woman. Then we can talk.
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    Mar 7, 2023, 02:41 PM
    Nice diversion from the topic ;that the Jan 6 commission intentionally excluded some key evidence in it's case .If Jacob Chansley is serving time under false pretenses then you can be assured that many lesser known people are doing the same under similar circumstances . Yes the ones who got violent should be punished ,

    What did he do to receive 4 years ? He sat in Pence's chair ;he used a bull horn to lead some of the protesters in incantation ;and evidently he dressed funny .
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    Mar 7, 2023, 03:22 PM
    His big mistake was in not being a BLM leader at a riot where entire buildings were burned and police cars overturned. He'd find some sympathy amongst libs if that was the case.
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    Mar 7, 2023, 04:13 PM
    no kidding . There is already a defense fund being set up for the Atlanta Antifa terrorists .
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    Mar 8, 2023, 09:53 AM
    The Bee strikes again!

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    May 6, 2023, 09:40 AM
    the Proud Boys were convicted for participating in a seditious conspiracy, without any evidence of a plot . Not one shred of such evidence was presented at best there were weak inferences that were not backed up by any proof. There was no evidence of them plotting to stop Congress from certifying Clueless Joe's election. The evidence in fact shows the contrary ;that the riot was unplanned and spontaneous.

    For there to be seditious conspiracy under the law they would have had to conspire to "oppose by force" the authority of the U.S. government or "by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States."

    18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

    Even the Slimes admits the lack of hard evidence of a conspiracy .Prosecutors"never found a smoking gun that conclusively showed the Proud Boys plotted to help President Donald J. Trump remain in office."


    Prosecution’s Witness at Proud Boys Trial Shows Complexities of the Case - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    Star witness Jeremy Bertino, a former Proud Boy who pleaded guilty said he "repeatedly told investigators that the Proud Boys never had an explicit plan to stop the election certification and that he himself never fully expected violence to erupt on Jan. 6."

    The prosecution used video footage of some of the group during the riot and infered the defendants were also violent without evidence of it .
    Keep this in mind . Any riot can now be a seditious conspiracy if it interferes with "the execution of any law of the United States."

    Anyone want to apply that standard to Antifa and BLM ?
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    May 6, 2023, 10:05 AM
    Mind you some of the Proud Boys activities of late make the KKK look like progressive liberals.....
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    May 6, 2023, 10:42 AM
    the Proud Boys were convicted for participating in a seditious conspiracy,
    The decision was made before the trial ever started. It should be of great concern to everyone. When the feds can do this to one group, they can do it to many others.

    CB, perhaps you are not familiar with the history of the KKK. The Proud Boys, a despicable group to be sure, doesn't come close to the historical atrocities of the KKK. At one time it is thought they had as many as 3 million members. They were responsible for the lynchings of many black Americans and conducted a virtual reign of terror in many communities.
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    May 6, 2023, 11:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    CB, perhaps you are not familiar with the history of the KKK. The Proud Boys, a despicable group to be sure, doesn't come close to the historical atrocities of the KKK. At one time it is thought they had as many as 3 million members. They were responsible for the lynchings of many black Americans and conducted a virtual reign of terror in many communities.
    Very much so, remember how much influence they had in the 20's.....
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    May 6, 2023, 11:13 AM
    You are exactly correct. That being the case, I suppose you meant this as serious hyperbole. "Mind you some of the Proud Boys activities of late make the KKK look like progressive liberals....."
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    May 6, 2023, 11:19 AM
    Indeed, although if compared present day, there really is no contest.
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    May 6, 2023, 11:23 AM
    I don't know. The KKK is more advanced in keeping their activities out of the public eye, but you might very well be right.
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    May 21, 2023, 04:25 AM
    New revelations from unsealed FISA documents reveal that the FBI in cooperation with Bank Of America (BOA) ;(and most likely other major banks too big to fail), was illegally surveilling during the Jan 6,2021 protest and the racial justice protest in 2020 . 278,000 times !!!!!

    This is what they did . They turned over to the FBI EVERY bank transaction ;credit card use ,debit withdrawals etc that happened in DC on those days .

    Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act allows them to data mine foreigners outside of the US.. To use the tool for domestic spying is a gross violation of the law. The law expires at the end of the year and Clueless Joe wants it renewed . But there is a real need to restructure the law to protect the rights of American citizens . Even when they are targeting foreigners , Americans have inadvertently been a part of some searches.

    In this case there was nothing inadvertent about it .

    FBI Director Christopher Wray “told us we can sleep well at night because of the FBI’s so-called FISA reforms. But it was worse than we thought,” said Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, the Republican chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, which has jurisdiction over FISA 702 renewal.
    Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.), said the newly disclosed opinion revealed “shocking abuses of FISA Section 702, in particular the FBI’s warrantless searches through 702 data for information on Americans.” Rep. Jim Himes of Connecticut, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said the opinion showed the need for additional changes beyond the Justice Department’s own reforms, “to ensure that the FBI, and other agencies, are faithful stewards of this powerful and irreplaceable national security tool.”
    FBI Searched Jan. 6 Rioters and George Floyd Demonstrators in Spy Database - WSJ


    Where can such activities lead if a rogue government has such powers over people executing their right of protest ? Ask the Canadian convoy truckers .

    Banks freeze millions in convoy funds under Trudeau edict - BNN Bloomberg

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