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    Feb 27, 2023, 06:21 AM
    priorities
    Illegal aliens cross into the into this national forest by the thousands trampling vegetation and leaving trash in their wake. Here is a public saftey posting by the National Park Service for the 3 million acre Gila National Forest .


    Illegal border crossers have been suspected of running drugs, injuring government employees and causing major wildfires. Besides carrying ammunition and guns, they also can carry tents, propane cylinders and other flammable agents. Improperly used these items can be sources of ignition causing forest fires. These illegal inhabitants can become dangerous if they feel threatened and should be avoided.
    Marijuana plots and methamphetamine labs have become frequent sites in our forests. Those responsible for these illegal plots or labs are dangerous and should be avoided. If visitors inadvertently come upon these sites they should immediately depart the area and report the sighting to law enforcement officers. The chemicals used to grow or produce these illegal products can be highly combustible and pose considerable risk to hazards caused by fire and explosion.

    Gila National Forest - Outdoor Safety & Ethics (usda.gov)

    .It has become a route for drug runners and human traffickers .

    So what keeps the government up at night ?......

    150 feral cows roaming Gila Forest .....and because they “pose a significant threat to public safety and natural resources.”,the government is going to shoot to kill.

    Gila National Forest - News & Events (usda.gov)

    The hunt will be done with helicopters .

    The slaughtered cows will be "dispatched "then "left onsite to naturally decompose" but they "will ensure no carcasses are adjacent to or in any waterbody or spring, designated hiking trail, or known culturally sensitive area."

    Last year there was a similar government hunt. Predictably the results were shoddy.

    The cattle are not technically feral . They are descendants of domestic cattle legally grazed on Federal lands . They intermingled with other branded domestic stock . Last year some of the cattle were shot but not killed receiving injuries that prolonged suffering and when they ultimately died they died where they were in the spring beds and other sensitive areas the government was trying to protect.

    The hunt this year will leave 65 tons of good beef left to rot in the forest. For the cost of the hunters pay and the helicopter rides the government could contract professionals to round up the cattle to use for public and private charitable distribution. That would be a win win. The government's concern about 150 random cattle trampling the grasslands in a 3 million acre forest would be addressed ;and some needy people would get to eat some good steaks .
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    Feb 27, 2023, 09:40 AM
    Why not round them up?
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    Feb 27, 2023, 11:07 AM
    Yes! Round up those criminal illegals!!s (Have a funny feeling that's not what you intended, but it's still what should be done.)
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    Feb 27, 2023, 11:20 AM
    Round up the feral cattle and put them in safe pastures. Then put me in charge of the southern border.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 11:42 AM
    Then put me in charge of the southern border.
    I think that's already been done.

    But yeah, let's round up those life-threatening cows and let the illegal drug running and human trafficking continue. After all, it's only human beings suffering and dying as a result.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 11:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I think that's already been done.
    No, I didn't receive any executive order yet.
    But yeah, let's round up those life-threatening cows and let the illegal drug running and human trafficking continue. After all, it's only human beings suffering and dying as a result.
    And the feral cows are descendants of farmers' herds. If shot, killed, and left to rot, that's 65 tons of meat going to waste
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    Feb 27, 2023, 01:52 PM
    I'm just amazed that you're concerned about a few tons of meat and yet have no comment about illegal immigrants who are importing illegal drugs, setting the woods on fire, threatening legal citizens, and forcing women into the sex trade. It's just kind of like, "Yawn. What else is in the news today?"
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    Feb 27, 2023, 02:19 PM
    I've already said my piece on other threads.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 02:26 PM
    Sure you have. It's just the liberal mindset. "Thou shalt not speak ill of illegal immigrants, even when they are killing Americans." It's incredible.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 02:42 PM
    Apparently you don't remember my very doable ideas to clean up the border and control the flow of immigrants. At the time, obsessed by wall-building, you said my ideas were impossible and that a wall must be built forthwith!!!
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    Feb 27, 2023, 03:06 PM
    We're not talking about the wall. We are talking about illegals so taking over a national park that law-abiding citizens have to be warned about them. It's ridiculous. They traffic in illegal drugs and human beings, but you can't be bothered to comment about it. Just terrible.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 03:35 PM
    If Trump had built more than 50 feet of that wall you adore, there'd be no problem, right?
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    Feb 27, 2023, 03:42 PM
    If Trump had built more than 50 feet of that wall you adore, there'd be no problem, right?
    You do realize that Trump built several hundred miles of border wall (more than 50 feet), so your observation is completely ridiculous??? Mr. Biden, on the other hand, is actually the one to build less than fifty feet of wall.

    This is just too good!! You've made my day.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 04:03 PM
    I was pulling your leg. *giggle*

    And how many miles of wall did Trump NOT build?
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    Feb 27, 2023, 05:08 PM
    I was pulling your leg. *giggle*
    Yeah. You always say that right after posting something dumb.

    And how many miles of wall did Trump NOT build?
    The same amount Biden has NOT built. The difference is that Trump actually DID build over four hundred miles of wall.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 06:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. You always say that right after posting something dumb.
    You are soooooo easy!
    The same amount Biden has NOT built. The difference is that Trump actually DID build over four hundred miles of wall.
    We aren't talking about Biden. Please stay on topic. Again I ask you, "And how many miles of wall did Trump NOT build?"
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    Feb 27, 2023, 06:23 PM
    We aren't talking about Biden. Please stay on topic. Again I ask you, "And how many miles of wall did Trump NOT build?"
    I don't blame you. If I was you, I wouldn't want to talk about the only one of the two to build less than fifty feet of wall. And your question, as you well know, is totally ridiculous and unanswerable.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 06:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't blame you. If I was you, I wouldn't want to talk about the only one of the two to build less than fifty feet of wall. And your question, as you well know, is totally ridiculous and unanswerable.
    Ah, as I figured. You don't know.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 07:21 PM
    Ah. As you figured out, only one built any wall at all. Your question was ridiculous.
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    Feb 27, 2023, 07:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Ah. As you figured out, only one built any wall at all. Your question was ridiculous.
    And you refuse to answer a question I easily googled the answer for? Shame!

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