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    #81

    Jun 6, 2023, 05:00 AM
    If he becomes President he will hold them to account for their previous collusions with the Evita campaign . I wonder if he declared a blanket pardon for all involved in the Russia hoax if they would back off. Probably not.
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    #82

    Jun 6, 2023, 07:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I can't decide if they are persecuting Trump out of hatred, fear, or both.
    He's an aging dope.
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    #83

    Jun 6, 2023, 07:48 AM
    What a loving, kind statement.
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    Jun 6, 2023, 03:18 PM
    The pile on continues

    “Sounds like two sets of indictments”: NYT reveals existence of second Florida Mar-a-Lago grand jury | Salon.com
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    Jun 8, 2023, 04:22 PM
    Trump was impeached for temorarily witholding aid the Ukraine ;asking Ukraine to investigate Quid Pro Joe's getting a Ukraine prosecutor fired for investigating Hunter's Burisma connections

    Now we learn that the FBI knew in June of 2020 ; as Quid was wrapping up the Dem nomination , that Burisma was bribing both Quid and Hunter to the tune of $5 million a piece to get the prosecutor off their case.

    Quid threatened Ukraine with withholding aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor was dealt with . In his own words ...............

    Joe Biden Brags about getting Ukranian Prosecutor Fired - YouTube

    Chris Wray had the threat of Contempt of Congress ended when he finally cooperated and released the doc the FBI had from the whistleblower accusing the Bidens.

    Comer Cancels Wray Contempt Vote as F.B.I. Agrees to Share Document on Biden - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
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    Jun 8, 2023, 06:37 PM
    and right on cue ...... as if it was planned that way .... we find out on the same day as the above was disclosed to the public...... that indeed Trump is indicted .
    What a coincidence !!!!!!!
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    Jun 8, 2023, 07:45 PM
    A coincidence indeed. The Biden DOJ manages to ignore both this (Burisma was bribing both Quid and Hunter to the tune of $5 million a piece to get the prosecutor off their case.) and the fact that Biden had in his possession many boxes of classified material. Strange how they managed to overlook all of that.
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    Jun 9, 2023, 02:37 AM
    What they want is for Clueless Joe to die in office and for Trump to die in jail.

    The Presidential Records Act is not a criminal statute. But they are attempting to link it to a law that is well past it's prime ....the Espionage Act of 1917 . That act was put in place by the Woodrow Wilson administration to nip in the bud domestic opposition to the US entry into WWI

    What we have not discussed here is that they have Trump on tape discussing about a classified doc about a plan for a possible attack on Iran . Some of the people in the meeting did not have security clearance. Evidently this was a doc that Trump admits he did not declassify.

    They are going to pile on a number of charges linking this and the docs at MAL ;and bunch of process crimes like obstruction of justice. Convicting Trump of any of these will result in jail time that Trump would not survive. It is essentially a death penalty.
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    Jun 9, 2023, 03:38 AM
    This I believe is the REAL issue the DOJ is going after Trump for .

    Memorandum on Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation – The White House (archives.gov)

    This declassification happened the Jan 19,2021 . The last day of Trump's Presidency.

    The raid on MAL was an attempt to retrieve the docs related to the Justice Dept collusion with Evita's campaign ;and subsequent attempts to undermine the Trump administration.
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    Jun 9, 2023, 01:36 PM
    page 15 of the indictment is the one they will nail Trump on

    trump-indictment.pdf (d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net)
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    #91

    Jun 9, 2023, 03:22 PM
    The jury in the OJ case concluded that the cops were out to get OJ . Given the right jury would that work in this case ?
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    Feb 7, 2024, 05:55 AM
    No surprise here . While Jack Smith is itching to slap irons on Trump for mishandling classified docs. the DOJ ended their investigation of Quid Pro Joe with no charges filed .
    Special Counsel Robert Hur declined to comment.

    ' Time '; a compliant press mouth piece for the administration commented (I refuse to call it "reported " )

    The decision not to charge Biden isn’t surprising because it involved seemingly innocent mishandling of classified papers that were uncovered and immediately handed over for investigation, according to Barbara McQuade, a former federal prosecutor.
    DOJ Ends Biden Classified Docs Investigation With No Charges | TIME

    That is laugh out loud absurd . If they were "innocently mishandled " they would not have been moved around as often as playing cards in a 3 card monte game. If the fix wasn't in then Quid would not have been informed well in advance before the DOJ searched his homes and offices (and car) .

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