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    Nov 15, 2022, 06:35 AM
    Palin lost to the phony rank choice system .

    She may be strange in your view but she was the most successful Guv in state history . Most of the critique of Palin comes from the elite who would not tolerate that treatment of one of their own.Even McCain was a condescending a$$hole . After his defeat he blamed the loss on her and regretted not selecting Joe Lieberman. She to this day speaks of him admiringly despite his despicable betrayal.

    Words like sexist ,misogynistic would flow from their mouths if Dem woman leaders were subject to the things Palin routinely endures . Compost columnist Richard Cohen compared McCain's selection of her for Veep candidate as Caligula selecting his horse . Imagine if that was said of Evita . There were more than one suggestion in the media that she was not her daughter Trig's real mother . What male sitting Guv was subject to such ridicule by the establishment ?

    The sad irony was that she got along well with the press until McCain elevated her onto the national stage. Then suddenly she was made public enemy #1 . They even tried to pin the shooting of Gabrielle Gifford on her.

    They made a caricature of her that stuck . She did not want to ban books .She did not want Alaska to secede . She did not oppose contraception (she does oppose abortion) . She did not "see Russia" from her house (that was a Tina Fey line that the complaint press embraced )

    They ridiculed her faith making exaggerated comments about the Pentacostal church she attends ;even though Pentecostalism is one of the most main stream branches of Christianity in America. When one speaks of woman's rights then one could not find a branch more rooted in egalitarian practices.

    She ran a bipartisan government very successfully .She ran on anti-corruption and worked hard to implement it . She passed tough anti-corruption laws and her enemies used it against her making her defend her own ethics with her own money fighting one law suit after another . None of the charges stuck.She navigated the corrupt world of Alaska oil and energy politics that was stuck in the days of wild cat era . She promoted Alaskan resource development. She gave the royalties back to the people of Alaska and put the state on a trajectory to financial well being; something that eluded the state since it's 1959 statehood. When she started out as chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission the state was pretty much ruled by big oil. Resources were under developed and revenue left the state. She changed that by changing the culture at the agency and then challenging Murkowsky for Guv. He was in bed with big oil.

    She negotiated with the legislature to pass a pipeline construction deal that cut big oil out .She pushed hard for Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Share (ACES)This would not have happened without bipartisan cooperation from the Dems in the state. As a result there was a budget surplus that blunted the worse effects of the Great Recession. Alaska's bonds were elevated to AAA for the 1st time. To this day the state cuts a check to every resident for oil revenue from the state , This year every resident got a $3,000 deposit .
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    Nov 15, 2022, 06:54 AM
    It was an astonishing election. I can only conclude that the American people are happy with empty shelves, high inflation, monopoly money, sky-high gas prices, record levels of illegal immigration, high levels of crime, and a president with a minimally functioning brain. The election of Fetterman was just wild.
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    Nov 15, 2022, 07:23 AM
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    Nov 15, 2022, 09:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    She may be strange in your view but she was the most successful Guv in state history
    She was woefully unprepared for national office. In fact, she even bailed out of state office before her term ended.
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    Nov 15, 2022, 10:56 AM
    In fact, she even bailed out of state office before her term ended.
    Like that has never happened before .

    It is easy to find the facts .

    Since the nation's founding 166 governors have resigned to seek other office or appointments .

    16 resigned like il Duce Cuomo and Eliot Spitzer; and Jim Mc Greedy in NJ in disgrace .

    37 resigned for personal reasons .
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    Nov 15, 2022, 12:08 PM
    Be careful with those facts, Tom. They can be confusing!!

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    Nov 15, 2022, 01:30 PM
    Lake she may be strange . But what I found strange was that her opponent is in charge of running the election ,and counting votes ;and a bunch of voting machines go down on election day , and then it takes a week to count the votes ,and the votes come out in favor of the opponent hmmmm nothing strange about that !
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    Nov 15, 2022, 02:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    37 resigned for personal reasons .
    She was a good governor, but way over her head on a national stage.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Lake she may be strange . But what I found strange was that her opponent is in charge of running the election ,and counting votes ;and a bunch of voting machines go down on election day , and then it takes a week to count the votes ,and the votes come out in favor of the opponent hmmmm nothing strange about that !
    Nah. Democrats are always honest and perfect. Just ask your partner in crime here. I admit Palin and Lake are good-lookers, but, hey, you can't have everything.
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    Nov 15, 2022, 02:48 PM
    She was a good governor, but way over her head on a national stage.
    Could very well be true. Still, many of the criticisms lodged against her were basically liberal propaganda.
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    Nov 15, 2022, 04:02 PM
    So the person in charge of the process, who did not recuse herself from authority over her own race, whose voting machines inexplicably malfunctioned on voting day, whose security systems went "offline" for 8 hours after election workers went home... you mean THAT person is "always honest and perfect" ?
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    Nov 15, 2022, 04:09 PM
    double post
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    Nov 15, 2022, 04:16 PM
    THAT person is "always honest and perfect" ?
    Yeah. It does sound incredible, doesn't it? I can only hope it was meant to be hyperbole.
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    Nov 15, 2022, 04:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    So the person in charge of the process, who did not recuse herself from authority over her own race, whose voting machines inexplicably malfunctioned on voting day, whose security systems went "offline" for 8 hours after election workers went home... you mean THAT person is "always honest and perfect" ?
    ESPECIALLY her!! She is well-known to be saintly and fair, humble of spirit, and stuff like that.

    The malfunctioning was NOT inexplicable. It was TOTALLY explicable!
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    Nov 15, 2022, 04:52 PM
    Yes and predictable
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    Nov 15, 2022, 04:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Yes and predictable
    Yes, she's also very good at predicting. Thanks for reminding me.
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    Nov 15, 2022, 04:56 PM
    Yes, and explicably successful.
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    Nov 29, 2022, 06:24 AM
    Alaska’s sole congressional seat, which had been in GOP hands for 49 years, was recently captured by Democrat Mary Peltola. This is what rank choice voting brings .(it also saved RINO Lisa Murkowsky's bacon .But that is another discussion)

    It is an absurd system . If the state insists on having the winner receive a majority of at least 50%+ then Georgia's run off system is preferable. .
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    Nov 29, 2022, 06:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    alaska’s sole congressional seat, which had been in gop hands for 49 years, was recently captured by democrat mary peltola.
    Thanks be to god!!
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    Nov 29, 2022, 06:51 AM
    We should be thankful that the will of the people was not carried out?
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    Dec 7, 2022, 01:11 PM
    As I have stated previously . It is time for the Repubs to embrace the steal .

    Yesterday was a bad weather day in GA ,and rural Repubs were not motivated to go to the polls . Walker got 200,000 less votes yesterday than on election day.Part of that is that Walker did not inspire them as Guv Kemp does in the state. But in interviews and texts many Repub voter has said that they know the fix is in .... so why bother ? This plays into the Dem hands.

    To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. (Sun tsu )

    Democrats had a much higher turnout compared to their election day turnout .Repubs turnout was less. Democrats wanted it more in Georgia.
    Why does it matter ? Because now it is not a split Senate . Dems do not have to share power with Yertle (btw suits him just fine ) Now if Sen Sinema or Manchin play hard to get they can still get Schmucky's agenda passed with Kam the Sham's tiebreaker .

    It is time for the Repubs to have a reality check .All the tricks the Dems ramrodded into State rules are not going away . To win elections Repubs will have to embrace the steal and learn to play that game better than the Dems .

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