[tomder55]

And I figured out a difference that has confused me . What is a baby ? When a woman gets pregnant and wants to be pregnant then what is inside her is a baby . When a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to be pregnant then what is inside her is a clump of cells to be discarded as she sees fit .

[jlisenbe]

Wouldn't it be yet another example of perceptions equating to reality? I'm a man but I think I'm a woman, so I must be. I live in the fountain of freedom, but I perceive that I am a victim of gross discrimination, so I must be.

I have had to talk to these pro-death advocates for several years now. Their arguments are nearly always foolish. I had one tell me that the fetus is not alive until 24 weeks. Really? Then it's dead until then? The lack of thinking is just terrible.

[jlisenbe]

[Wondergirl]

What will happen to those millions of babies once they are born, take their first breath, and aren't wanted by their mothers?

[jlisenbe]

If it makes you feel better then suggest they be killed after being born.

That would sure solve the problem wouldn’t it?

[Wondergirl]

I see you refuse to answer my question. Do Repubs have a plan in place to deal with all the unwanted babies that will be born?

[jlisenbe]

For all of history, parents have done that job. Is that no longer a good plan?

[Wondergirl]

Do Repubs have a plan in place to deal with all the unwanted babies that will be born?

[jlisenbe]

Yes. Their parents. That’s the plan. It seems much better than your plan of killing the babies.

[Wondergirl]

Their parents don't want them. Set them at the front door of the fire station or police department or hospital or church? Throw them into a dumpster? Leave them in an alley?

[jlisenbe]

Let's establish something at the beginning. Your plan is to kill them before they are born so, I suppose, you and everyone else won't have to be bothered with them. I think that is a despicable, sick plan and wonder at how Wondergirl could possibly endorse such a thing.

Now beyond that, we already have agencies in place to handle such children in addition to many pro-life crisis pregnancy centers. Pro-abortion groups do not sponsor such agencies. I have worked with those very children in school. Many are adopted and others are in foster care. It's an imperfect world, but your plan of just killing them is abhorrent beyond description, so don't try to act like you have some sort of high moral ground because you most certainly do not. You and all the liberal dems who cannot be bothered with resisting abortion are in the same camp.

Barring some sort of extenuating circumstances, both mothers and fathers who do not want to raise/support their children should be the pariahs of society.

[Wondergirl]

I am NOT planning to kill them before birth, yet you seem to think they will quietly disappear after they're born. But face the facts. There will be multitudes of unwanted babies. And no, foster care is not the answer. Adoption is a very long and expensive process. Agencies will be swamped. Funds will lacking. Now what?

[jlisenbe]

I am NOT planning to kill them before birth

That is exactly what your plan is. You refuse to take any sort of stand against it, so your vote is for it to continue.

As to the rest of your comments, you don't know what is going to happen. Perhaps women will wake up and begin to protect themselves from unplanned pregnancies. If the pathetic Biden group has their way, they will use yet more Monopoly money to pay for women to travel for abortions.

I would be all in for making adoption much easier and less expensive. Many foster care homes do a great job so it's sad to see you disparage them. The only real answer is a national return to basic morality where people get married and then have children. The level of self-centeredness now is just appalling. "I must have an abortion so I can continue to have sex with my boyfriend!" It will take a genuine Christian revival for that return to a genuine respect for life to happen in my view.

[Wondergirl]

Good luck with all that.