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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
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If the mother's life is in grave danger and her death would result, the doctor has the means to end the pregnancy as gently as possible.
At any rate, it is never necessary to have an abortion at 37 weeks to save the life of the mother. One way or the other, the baby must be delivered, so an abortion does nothing to spare the mother that ordeal. And if you think a doctor has means to end the pregnancy "gently", then you have no knowledge at all of late term abortions. I would really challenge you to look at how a dilation and evacuation is performed, or a saline abortion, or partial birth abortions. You can read about it here. I doubt that you will. Ignorance is bliss. And that is not meant in a mean fashion. I just know your approach. https://lozierinstitute.org/the-real...on-procedures/ |
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Have you ever heard of c-sections?
The techniques you described are not done when the fetus is nearly full term.
But if you are so sure of your statement, then tell us what technique is used? Didn't read the article, did you? |
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Most people are sensible enough to know that an abortion at 37 weeks would be a grotesque breach of morality. But they can't explain WHY they believe that. You are evidently in that group. So we ask them questions to help them explore their own standards. How about 30 weeks? How about 24? If "yes" for 24 but "no" for 30, then why? What difference justifies that distinction? The idea is to get them to assess their own position. Getting people to think benefits the pro-life position, but that won't work unless a person has sufficient courage to do it. I haven't observed that you do. You just seem to prefer living in a make-believe world where abortions are "gentle" and usually involve a scenario along the lines of a 15 year old rape victim who has become pregnant. It's much easier to live with that belief than to discover that abortions are ugly, violent procedures usually chosen by a woman who simply does not want the baby. You ask questions such as, "Is the fetus a human life," but then choose not to explore your own question, or any other question you find threatening. I think that's tragic. So we end up having these pointless discussions that never arrive at any destination since you can't defend your position and yet don't want to honestly examine any others.
Don't say that meanly. It's my view of the situation. |
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MR. JENSEN: Jen, can I ask a question? A Catholic church was just vandalized with pro-abortion slogans in Colorado. It just happened recently. Is the White House aware of that, first of all?
MS. PSAKI: I’ve not seen that report. Obviously, we don’t condone vandalism. We condone peaceful protest, and that’s something certainly we’re encouraging with everybody who feels passionate — MR. JENSEN: What would you say to those vandals going after — targeting Catholic churches, especially when it involves Roe? That’s what they’re basically focusing on. MS. PSAKI: Again, we don’t condone vandalism. We condone peaceful protest. I think it’s important to note that 60 percent or 70 percent, depending on the poll you look at, of the American people do not want Roe to be overturned. I’m going to move on. Go ahead. MR. JENSEN: Will the President respect the High Court’s final decision on Roe (inaudible)? MS. PSAKI: I think we’re moving on. Go ahead. Q Jen — MR. JENSEN: This is a follow-up question. That’s all. Just like everyone else gets. (SEVERAL MINUTES LATER) MR. JENSEN: Quick follow-up. Is anyone in the administration — Q Thank you, Jen. MS. PSAKI: Okay, last — last one. Go ahead. MR. JENSEN: — looking out for the unborn child? MS. PSAKI: Sir — sir — MR. JENSEN: Is anyone in the administration looking out for the unborn child? MS. PSAKI: I think I’ve taken two questions from you — Q No, no, no. MS. PSAKI: — so I’m going to take a question over here. Go ahead. Q Thank you, Jen. MR. JENSEN: When does the President believe life begins? Thank you |
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