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jlisenbe · Feb 6, 2022, 03:03 PM

Books have been banned

Please be specific.

If you believe the Bible, homosexual behavior is sin. Even if you don't believe the Bible, it is against the clear design of nature.

There is no porn in the Bible.

I've already told you we discussed "gender issues" with our kids. My grandchild is 15 months old.

Wondergirl · Feb 6, 2022, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

If you believe the Bible, homosexual behavior is sin. Even if you don't believe the Bible, it is against the clear design of nature.

"The clear design of nature" went topsy-turvy in Genesis 3, and unlimited possibilities began.

There is no porn in the Bible.

Read the Bible.

I've already told you we discussed "gender issues" with our kids.

Please give a summary.

jlisenbe · Feb 6, 2022, 03:31 PM

Please be specific.

If you can't be specific, then you really should abandon the argument.

Your assessment of Genesis 3 has no support in the Bible unless you are prepared to say that those possibilities are sin.

Have read the Bible many, many times. No porn.

I'm not going to give a summary. It would be silly and pointless.

Wondergirl · Feb 6, 2022, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Have read the Bible many, many times. No porn.

Here's one instance:

Genesis 19. Drunken Lot and his two daughters in a cave.

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

I'm not going to give a summary. It would be silly and pointless.

Silly and pointless because it never happened.

jlisenbe · Feb 6, 2022, 03:58 PM

There are no graphic descriptions of sex and the story does not have the objective of simply arousing sexual desire. Most people find the account to be offensive and sinful as well they should. It is decidedly not porn. If that's the best you have, then you are finished.

You need to read a definition of what porn is.

Wondergirl · Feb 6, 2022, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

There are no graphic descriptions of sex and the story does not have the objective of simply arousing sexual desire. Most people find the account to be offensive and sinful as well they should. It is decidedly not porn. If that's the best you have, then you are finished.

You need to read a definition of what porn is.

Reading erotic fiction and non-fiction et al. causes the creation of pictures in one's head thus, Sunday School and Bible class teachers avoid this story (and others).

jlisenbe · Feb 6, 2022, 04:52 PM

I guess you think the story of Lot and his daughters is erotic. Pretty sure the average person does not since they regard a man getting his own daughters pregnant to be sickening. I've never seen anyone avoid this story. The lesson is very valuable.

We have reached our usual impasse. I wish you the best in your life and the hubster as well. God bless your family.

tomder55 · Feb 6, 2022, 07:13 PM

To Kill a Mockingbird: Challenged at the Moss Point, Miss. School District (1996) because the novel contains a racial epithet. Banned from the Lindale,Tex. advanced placement English reading list (1996) because the book "conflicted with the values of the community." Challenged by a Glynn County, Ga. (2001) school board member because of profanity. The novel was retained. Returned to the freshman reading list at Muskogee, Okla. High School (2001) despite complaints over the years from black students and parents about racial slurs in the text. Challenged in the Normal, ILL Community High Schools sophomore literature class (2003) as being degrading to African Americans. Challenged at the Stanford Middle School in Durham, N.C. (2004) because the 1961 Pulitzer Prize-winning novel uses the word "nigger."
Source: 2004 Banned Books Resource Guide

I linked to the most recent banning of Mockingbird which was within the month . It was a district in Seattle . It had nothing to do with the stereotype of what the south was in 1996 .

Wondergirl · Feb 6, 2022, 07:21 PM

Yep, tomder. I posted all that in #38.

tomder55 · Feb 6, 2022, 07:39 PM

you reference 2004 banned books list . I was referencing the banning of Mockingbird by a liberal district in this school year .

Mukilteo School District removes ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’ from required reading list | The Seattle Times

Banned and challenged for racial slurs and their negative effect on students, featuring a “white savior” character, and its perception of the Black experience.