[Athos]

Republicans from seven swing states attempted a fraudulent scheme to replace legally appointed electors with their own fraudulent electors. They were caught after submitting their bogus slate to the National Archives, the Senate, and other government agencies.

They will be charged with crimes by either the DOJ or the state AGs - or both.

The originator of this plot to overthrow the legally-elected President of the United States ? Hold on to your hat!

RUDY GIULIANI! Trump's former personal lawyer. This is in addition to the many frauds the former NY mayor has already been accused of and for which he has been suspended by New York State.

No proof yet Trump was involved, but does anybody seriously believe he wasn't?

[jlisenbe]

They will be charged with crimes by either the DOJ or the state AGs - or both.

The famous "They will be" assertion. To be clear, if they have committed crimes, they should be charged, but time will tell on that. After all, HC was plainly guilty of obstructing justice and conducting classified communications over a network that was not secured, yet she was never charged.

No proof yet Trump was involved, but does anybody seriously believe he wasn't?

Does anybody seriously believe in the concept of needing evidence to make a claim of guilt?

[tomder55]

There is NO scenario in the electoral process where a slate of fake electors could possibly be used in the elections . I'm not saying it wasn't attempted . I don't know if it was or wasn't . But if it was attempted those involved were stuck on stupid.

I don't know when or if the attempt was made .But here is the timeline for 2020

The winning candidate's State political party selects the individuals who will be the electors be after the election

BEFORE Dec 14 2020 all governors had to certifty the results in their states and send the certification to the archivist .States must make final decisions in any controversies over the appointment of their electors at least six days before the meeting of the electors. (by Dec 8) This is so their electoral votes will be presumed valid when presented to Congress. Decisions by States’ courts are conclusive, if decided under laws enacted before Election Day.
In other words ;BY Dec 8 all controversies over electors resolved .

Dec 14 all the elector votes were counted !!

December 23 the votes were delivered to the President of the Senate (Pence )


January 6 was a ceremonial count . However If any objections to the electoral votes are made, they must be submitted in writing and be signed by at least one member of the House and one Senator. If objections are presented, the House and Senate withdraw to their respective chambers to consider the merits of the objection under procedures set out in Federal law.

[Wondergirl]

The certification papers that were submitted are totally different-looking than the standard, official ones are. Different font and font size. Different headings. Different display.

[Athos]

But if it was attempted those involved were stuck on stupid.

Stuck, stupid and Republican.

[tomder55]

yeah I get it .... Trump/Repubs bad

[tomder55]

Fashback ;the Dems war gamed the election . Accordingly Podesta (playing the role of Clueless Joe ) persuaded Governors to send alternate slates of electors .

“In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr. Trump took office as planned,” The New York Times’ Ben Smith wrote last month. “The House named Mr. Biden president; the Senate and White House stuck with Mr. Trump. At that point in the scenario, the nation stopped looking to the media for cues, and waited to see what the military would do.” A report from the group describes what happened in more detail—California, Oregon, and Washington threatened to secede, yes, but in order to extract a set of concessions from Trump and Republicans. “With advice from President Obama,” it reads, “the Biden Campaign submitted a proposal to 1) Give statehood to Washington, DC and Puerto Rico; 2) Divide California into five states to more accurately represent its population in the Senate; 3) Require Supreme Court justices to retire at 70; and 4) Eliminate the Electoral College, to ensure that the candidate who wins to the popular vote becomes President.”

The Ridiculous War-Gaming of the 2020 Election | The New Republic

How the Media Could Get the Election Story Wrong - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Preventing a Disrupted Presidential Election and Transition 8-3-20 (wordpress.com)

[Athos]

yeah I get it .... Trump/Repubs bad

You got it. I'm sure you don't need proof of that.