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    #21

    Jan 9, 2022, 05:34 PM
    No, they don’t.
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    #22

    Jan 9, 2022, 05:37 PM
    One's sexual orientation and gender identity lie on a wide spectrum.
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    Jan 9, 2022, 05:46 PM
    Even if that is true, it has nothing to do with abnormalities involving sex chromosomes.
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    #24

    Jan 9, 2022, 05:54 PM
    A transgender woman can have XY chromosomes. Klinefelter syndrome is a condition that occurs in males when they have an extra X chromosome. It's not inherited, but usually occurs as a random event during the formation of reproductive cells (eggs and sperm) that results in the presence of one extra copy of the X chromosome in each cell (47 XXY).
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    #25

    Jan 9, 2022, 06:25 PM
    Your first statement is obvious and yet proves nothing. The second statement is true but not related to TG.
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    #26

    Jan 9, 2022, 06:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Your first statement is obvious and yet proves nothing. The second statement is true but not related to TG.
    Go to your local public library and do research. Make a few transgender friends who will tell you their stories and the science behind it all.

    (One of my transgender woman friends spent much of her adult life as a very unhappy man, was married, had two children. Was severely dysphoric, and doctors discovered Klinefelter syndrome. After HRT, gender counseling, and GCS, she now is very happy. Another friend is just starting down this road.)
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    Jan 9, 2022, 08:02 PM
    Go to your local public library and do research. Make a few transgender friends who will tell you their stories and the science behind it all.
    I thought perhaps you could explain the science. I guess not. I've already done my reading on it. You must remember that I'm a certified biology teacher.

    As to your second paragraph, mental illness is a sad situation. I have no doubt you mean well, but I would never tell a man that his idea he is a woman is valid idea. Perhaps you could tell them that Jesus Christ is still changing lives.

    Sometimes we need a laugh.
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    Jan 9, 2022, 08:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I thought perhaps you could explain the science. I guess not. I've already done my reading on it. You must remember that I'm a certified biology teacher.
    From the '50s?
    As to your second paragraph, mental illness is a sad situation. I have no doubt you mean well, but I would never tell a man that his idea he is a woman is valid idea. Perhaps you could tell them that Jesus Christ is still changing lives.
    Mental illness is not a problem. She was an EMT and ER nurse, among other medical jobs. And she is very beautiful inside and outside. If you make it to heaven, we'll introduce you to the others.
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    #29

    Jan 9, 2022, 08:22 PM
    If you don't know the science, and you don't, then it would be best to just admit it. And as anyone familiar with science knows, anecdotal accounts don't count for much.

    Seems sad to me that a woman who confesses to be a believer would not tell someone that Jesus still changes lives. I've seen it many times.
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    #30

    Jan 9, 2022, 08:26 PM
    I do know the science. You don't. I did give you Klinefelter syndrome. Want to chat with a few transgender women (and men) or their doctors? I'll find some for you in your area.
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    #31

    Jan 9, 2022, 08:27 PM
    You didn't comment on the dinosaurs comic!!
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    #32

    Jan 9, 2022, 08:29 PM
    According to you, dinosaurs never existed.
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    #33

    Jan 9, 2022, 08:32 PM
    I do know the science. You don't. I did give you Klinefelter syndrome.
    Thank you for verifying you DON'T know the science. KS has no real connection with TG. It's just a shot in the dark for you. It's a swag.

    According to you, dinosaurs never existed.
    What?
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    #34

    Jan 9, 2022, 09:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Thank you for verifying you DON'T know the science. KS has no real connection with TG. It's just a shot in the dark for you. It's a swag.
    Nope. No shot in the dark. Ask a few doctors who have transgender patients. There are very probably LGBTQ+ people in your extended and even immediate family. There are in mine and in many friends' families.
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    #35

    Jan 9, 2022, 09:19 PM
    Dear, dear WG. Anecdotal stories amount to nothing. I know dozens and dozens of men who struggle with addiction, but that doesn't make addiction normal or desirable. Many people struggle with porn, but porn is not good or desirable. Your constant theme of, "Oh! I know some TG people! They say they're normal," proves nothing at all.

    Saying KS has a link to TG is flat wrong. You just don't know what you're talking about. Sorry. This link will help you. Note that there is no mention of a link to TG.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/con...cid=entnewsntp
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    #36

    Jan 9, 2022, 09:25 PM
    Wow! How you misinterpret what I write, just like you misinterpret the Bible!
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    #37

    Jan 10, 2022, 05:17 AM
    Wow! Don't feel too bad, WG. You did try.
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    #39

    Jan 10, 2022, 12:58 PM
    One does NOT choose gender!!!
    This must go right along with - "One does not choose one’s gender; it chooses them."
    Poppycock!

    There was a time when it was (Jr/High school) - "In to be gay."
    Oh, I say, I say, I was born that way...So you'd better believe it!
    We are all "Born that way". The only difference being...Sin is in!!!
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    Jan 27, 2022, 08:22 AM

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