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    #21

    Nov 22, 2021, 04:54 PM
    Twist and shout. The truth remains.
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    #22

    Nov 22, 2021, 05:29 PM
    The truth that the two stage sets are very different? I would agree with that.
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    #23

    Nov 22, 2021, 06:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    The truth that the two stage sets are very different? I would agree with that.
    The South Court Auditorium can be filled with whatever furniture, flags, and other adornments that will set the stage for whatever occasion or purpose. Or the area can be stripped clean.

    "The auditorium itself was constructed during a renovation of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, a large building housing both the Vice President's ceremonial offices and working spaces for the hundreds of White House officials who don't have offices in the White House itself. It's located directly adjacent to the West Wing on the White House grounds."
    https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-t...110000805.html
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    Nov 23, 2021, 05:30 AM
    What is telling is how Quid and his administration use it......to create an alternate reality . Just like in 'The Truman Show ' ;which was inspired by an episode of 'The Twilight Zone' . Updated title could be 'The Quid Show' where there is no more truth in the real world than in his artificial one . In fact Quid himself could be a simulacrum generated by the Dems behind the scenes .
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    Nov 23, 2021, 05:40 AM
    What is telling is how Quid and his administration use it......to create an alternate reality
    That's the entire point. It's not the fact that it can be setup in whatever manner a person desires, but the fact that JB has set it up in a deceptive way. No other pres did that.

    But it's not surprising. This pres seems to have little regard for truth. His completely irresponsible characterization of KR as a white supremacist launched a cottage industry of small-minded "journalists" who continually try to pin that on KR. It all started with a pres who panders to the extreme left and has no respect for truth.
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    Nov 23, 2021, 10:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That's the entire point. It's not the fact that it can be setup in whatever manner a person desires, but the fact that JB has set it up in a deceptive way. No other pres did that.
    Biden is being KIND, giving the people who are present room to breathe. Apparently, you've never noticed how squished and uncomfortable a crowd of politicians and press are in the real Oval Office. Every time Trump signed an EO, politicians shuffled around uncomfortably on each side of him or sat on chairs outside of camera range.
    But it's not surprising. This pres seems to have little regard for truth.
    It has nothing to do with truth!!! It's like having the members of your large family enjoy Thanksgiving dinner in your huge basement rec room instead of in your tiny dining room. (Ask me about eating Thanksgiving dinner at my in-laws.)
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    Nov 23, 2021, 12:16 PM
    Biden is being KIND, giving the people who are present room to breathe. Apparently, you've never noticed how squished and uncomfortable a crowd of politicians and press are in the real Oval Office. Every time Trump signed an EO, politicians shuffled around uncomfortably on each side of him or sat on chairs outside of camera range.
    He needs the stage to look like the WH in order to be kind?

    It has nothing to do with truth!!! It's like having the members of your large family enjoy Thanksgiving dinner in your huge basement rec room instead of in your tiny dining room. (Ask me about eating Thanksgiving dinner at my in-laws.)
    He's trying to make people think he's at the WH. Deceptive. He has windows with fake pics outside of them to make it look like the Oval Office. Trump never did anything like that. Now I don't think it's all that big of a deal, but it is still deception at work. It's obvious to anyone other than the die-hard, "I love that Kool-Aid," Biden supporters.

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    Nov 23, 2021, 12:40 PM
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    He needs the stage to look like the WH in order to be kind?
    Please reread my post.
    Trump never did anything like that
    Nope. He doesn't give a hoot about anyone else's comfort or pleasure. He's all ME ME ME!!
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    #29

    Nov 23, 2021, 01:47 PM
    Please reread my post.
    Your post was about kindness. The thread is about Biden's deceit.

    Nope. He doesn't give a hoot about anyone else's comfort or pleasure. He's all ME ME ME!!
    And again, that has nothing to do with Biden setting the stage to look like the Oval Office. I know you hate Trump, but please stay on topic.
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    Nov 23, 2021, 01:51 PM
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    Your post was about kindness. The thread is about Biden's deceit.
    No deceit. Other presidents have done the same thing.

    Then it's deceit that we don't use our real names on this site.
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    #31

    Nov 23, 2021, 01:58 PM
    No deceit. Other presidents have done the same thing.
    Show me where other presidents have arranged that stage to look like the Oval Office.

    Then it's deceit that we don't use our real names on this site.
    Stay on topic.
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    #32

    Nov 23, 2021, 02:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Show me where other presidents have arranged that stage to look like the Oval Office.
    "President Joe Biden received his third COVID-19 vaccination shot last Monday on live television, but the event prompted rampant speculation about the room in which the event was staged, better known as the South Court Auditorium.
    Since 2012, South Court has served as the White House's de facto location to host high-profile events that require additional camera access.
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    #33

    Nov 23, 2021, 03:24 PM
    Thank you for providing support for a contention made by no one. So I'll ask again. "Show me where other presidents have arranged that stage to look like the Oval Office." No one has said a thing against the use of the South Court Auditorium. The disagreement concerns his use of a fake Oval Office.
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    #34

    Nov 23, 2021, 03:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    The disagreement concerns his use of a fake Oval Office.
    Why disagreement? The real OO isn't big enough. Like my mil's dining room when she invited too many relatives to Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner. So then she improvised for more space for everyone. She covered the ping-pong tabletable with a holiday sheet and decorations, added nice chairs, covered the washer and dryer with a holiday tablecloth to hide them, and added all sorts of holiday decorations so we'd think we were in the dining room.

    It's done all the time, especially when a crowd is expected or invited.

    Why do you fault any president for doing something like that? It's very creative and accommodating.
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    #35

    Nov 23, 2021, 03:55 PM
    It's been done by Biden only. You have been unable to establish any other pres using a fake OO. Period. End of story.

    I really don't think it's a big deal that he does this. It would be about number 200 on my list of failures of the Biden admin. What is really fascinating is your incredible unwillingness to simply admit the stunningly obvious which is that, so far as we can establish, only Biden has used a fake OO.
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    #36

    Nov 23, 2021, 04:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It's been done by Biden only. You have been unable to establish any other pres using a fake OO. Period. End of story.
    It shows he's smart and caring. Unlike someone else we know.
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    Nov 23, 2021, 04:12 PM
    And again. " What is really fascinating is your incredible unwillingness to simply admit the stunningly obvious which is that, so far as we can establish, only Biden has used a fake OO."

    It really is incredible and rather sad to watch. And then to reach the amazing conclusion that being devious shows he is "smart and caring". Hmmm.
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    #38

    Nov 23, 2021, 04:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    And again. " What is really fascinating is your incredible unwillingness to simply admit the stunningly obvious which is that, so far as we can establish, only Biden has used a fake OO."
    Then, that means only Biden has had the caring heart and wisdom to recreate the OO so more politicians and journalists can attend whatever WH function.
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    #39

    Nov 23, 2021, 04:56 PM
    So his deception is actually a moral act of great virtue? That is an incredible conclusion, but at least you have summoned up the courage to agree that only Biden has used a fake OO.

    We can move on.
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    Nov 23, 2021, 05:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So his deception is actually a moral act of great virtue? That is an incredible conclusion, but at least you have summoned up the courage to agree that only Biden has used a fake OO.
    It. Is. Not. Deception. If it were, you wouldn't know about it. And it has been used since at least 2012. Admit defeat!!!

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