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    #61

    May 22, 2022, 05:21 AM
    One can hope that some level of justice will be served in this case, but the Clintons have a long history of justice avoided. We'll see. I'm not going to get my hopes up. The whole deal seems to have driven by an insane hatred, and perhaps even fear, of all things Trump.
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    May 22, 2022, 05:24 AM
    One more thing ...... John Brennan was CIA boss at the time . The CIA discovered that Evita was going to pull this dirty trick to distract attention from her own Email server scandal. Brennan personally went to the emperor with this info.

    The emperor armed with this information still went along with an FBI probe of the Trump campaign that included the authorized use of spying on the campaign. Then he told James Comey how to brief President elect Trump on the more salacious aspects of the Steele dossier in an attempt to hang a sword of Damicles over Trump's head .


    The emperor was complicit in this plot as well as the phony investigation of Michael Flynn ;a meeting that Clueless also sat in on . It was Clueless who suggested that they use the Logan Act as a pretext for the spying and entrapment of Flynn.
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    #63

    May 22, 2022, 06:07 AM
    of course the world is focused more on Jack Sparrow's defamation lawsuit . We live in a dumbed down America ,
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    #64

    May 22, 2022, 06:26 AM
    Yep. The non-thinking crowd is holding sway. How else can Biden's election be explained?
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    #65

    May 23, 2022, 11:31 AM
    Sussman's defense appears to be that it was NOT what they were doing to Trump that was the problem. It was what the FBI was doing to the Evita campaign.

    Mook testified Comey's July joke of a presser where he said Evita was guilty but that no "reasonable " prosecutor would indict her .....and later in October 2016 after Comey reopened the case after more Evita Emails was found on Anthony Weiner's computer ,did more damage to Evita's chances than Trump did. What that has to do with Sussman lying to create the deflection narrative is beyond me.

    But it may work as a defense . Durham is using this trial as a gateway to get the truth out .Whatever the outcome ;there will be more .
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    #66

    May 23, 2022, 11:50 AM
    "We were guilty, but Trump was even more guilty, so therefore we are innocent!" It's the America of 2022.
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    May 25, 2022, 07:48 PM
    FBI Supervisory Special Agent Scott Hellman testified “it took him and another agent less than a day to ascertain the data and ‘white papers’ on two thumb drives Sussmann gave Baker did not support the Trump-Alfa Bank ‘secret connection’ allegation.” Hellman concluded that the data showed there was no “secret connection” between Trump and Alfa Bank and “whoever had written that paper had just come to conclusions not supported by the technical data.” He said the methodology they chose was questionable” and “it just didn’t make sense to us. Why would a presidential candidate put their own name on a supposedly secret domain name?”

    Knowing this , James Comey and Acting AG Rod Rosenstein (and probably Jeff Sessions to) allowed special council Robert Inspector Javert Mueller go on a fishing expedition to persecute Trump and his Presidency in an apparent coup attempt.
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    May 25, 2022, 08:01 PM
    Knowing this , James Comey and Acting AG Rod Rosenstein (and probably Jeff Sessions to) allowed special council Robert Inspector Javert Mueller go on a fishing expedition to persecute Trump and his Presidency in an apparent coup attempt.
    About sums it up. The level of corruption is just breath-taking.
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    #69

    May 26, 2022, 04:44 AM
    Sussman is seriously arguing in his defense that although he was technically working for the Evita campaign, that in fact he was not acting in the Evita campaign's interest when he offered, as a patriotic American, salacious and false information about Trump to the FBI. He says that had Evita known he was going to the FBI that she would've naturally opposed it. He says they wanted to promote it in the compliant press.

    However ,Evita did just that .Even better was now she had an active FBI investigation to add to the fairy tail she was weaving . His proof ? Well after all her campaign manager went to her to get approval to float the story to the compliant press; and she agreed to it.

    So the gist of his defense is that as a patriotic American ,and his concern about national security ,he went to the FBI AGAINST his clients interest . Get it ?

    What does the ABA conflict of interest rules say on this matter ?

    Personal Interest Conflicts.....

    the lawyer’s own interests should not be permitted to have an adverse effect on representation of a client.”

    Rule 1.7 Conflict of Interest: Current Clients - Comment (americanbar.org)

    His obligation to Evita was to disclose his intention.

    Of course this is moot because he is perjuring himself if he testifies to that . I hope Durham has the evidence on hand during cross examination. For one we know that Sussmann billed the campaign for his visit to Baker.

    The prosecution on Wednesday morning produced the record from Perkins Coie that they say proves the law firm billed "Hillary for America" for the meeting Sussmann had with Baker at FBI headquarters on Sept. 19, 2016.On the bill, also dated Sept. 19, 2016, the Clinton campaign is listed as the client, the time is listed as 3.3 hours, and the memo states: "work and communications regarding confidential project." Other testimony revealed Sussmann charged approximately $800 per hour.

    Prosecution, defense spar over bill allegedly proving Sussmann charged Clinton campaign for 2016 FBI meeting | Fox News

    It is beyond laughable .His defense countered that although he billed Evita for a 'confidential project' .He did not specifically bill her for the meeting with Baker .
    The jury learned Wednesday that Sussmann did bill Clinton that day, but only for "work and communications regarding confidential project."

    "There is no reference to the FBI in that entry, is there?" defense attorney Michael Bosworth asked Durham paralegal Kori Arsenault, who was on the witness stand. "There is not," she said.
    Bosworth highlighted expense reports showing that Sussmann didn't bill the Clinton campaign for his taxis to and from the FBI building, but instead billed his law firm at the time, Perkins Coie. Bosworth also pointed out that when Sussmann previously met with FBI officials on behalf of other unrelated clients, he would usually explicitly put "meeting with FBI" in his billing records.
    Prosecutors showed that Sussmann billed the campaign for USB thumb drives that he bought days before meeting Baker -- when he handed over two thumb drives with cyber data about Trump.

    Durham prosecutors rest case against Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann - CNNPolitics

    Babylon Bee ......where are you when we need you ?
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    May 26, 2022, 04:56 AM

    Hoping Durham does some follow up indictment on this testimony from Marc Elias that says current National Security Advisor Jake the snake Sullivan was in on the plot ;as well as John Podesta ;long time Clintoon hack ;and Jennifer Palmieri ;another Clintonista who was the emperor's White House Director of Communication before joining the Evita campaign.
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    #71

    May 26, 2022, 05:20 AM
    Needed: A republican pres with the courage to pursue this.
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    May 26, 2022, 05:26 AM
    I suspect that if Durham loses this case ,Clueless will shut him down,
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    May 28, 2022, 02:00 PM
    The case was sent to the jury . If nothing else ,Durham has established in court that Evita ,senior officials in her campaign ,and senior officials in the FBI were at a minimum unindicted co-conspirators .
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    #74

    May 31, 2022, 11:34 AM
    as expected Sussman was found not guilty . Justice in America is not blind . It is political .
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    #75

    May 31, 2022, 11:52 AM
    About as expected, sad to say.
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    May 31, 2022, 03:30 PM
    What I found out today beyond the jury rigging and the fact that Judge Cooper being appointed by the emperor is that the judge is married to Lisa Page's attorney Amy Jeffress who used to work in the Justice Dept while Sussman was there ;for AG Eric Holder . And to put a big cherry on the cake ........ Merrick Garland presided over their wedding !!! This is how the swamp works .

    Judge Cooper and his father in law William Jeffress successfully defended Saudi Arabia AGAINST the families of 9-11 victims . Aint that sweet !! . Previously he was a special assistant to Dept AG Jamie Gorelick

    You remember Gorelick as the moron who wrote the 1995 memo that established a "wall "between the FBI and CIA where information about terrorist plots could not be passed on between the agencies . That was a major part of the intel failure that led to 9-11

    And so the swamp goes .
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    #77

    Jun 1, 2022, 02:04 AM
    Besides the jury deck obviously being stacked in DC , Durham did not do a good job in his treatment of the FBI. He treated them as a victim instead of co-conspirators.

    If Durham continues to treat the FBI like dupes instead of part of the coup then the real story of Russia-gate will not be adjudicated .

    The real story is how law enforcement and intelligence agencies colluded with the Evita campaign and interfered in the political process by spying on the Trump campaign ;creating a false narrative that Trump was a Manchurian candidate in the service of Putin. When that failed to derail Trump they undermined his Presidency and attempted a coup .

    Durham ignores the emperor's intel and law enforcement agencies roles and concentrates on the Evita campaign . That doesn't even come close to telling the complete story and holding those responsible accountable .

    Durham's previous indictment was against Kevin Clinesmith ,an FBI lawyer who concealed vital information about Carter Page to get FISA warrants . He let Clinesmith off the hook by letting him plea guilty to lying to the FBI rather than defrauding the FISA court on behalf of the FBI ;making the FBI appear the victim.

    Next up is Igor Danchenko ,the Steele dossier compiler . The trial will be in Virginia so at least there is a chance of an honest jury. Again he is charged with lying to the FBI .Again the FBI is portrayed as a victim.

    The FBI in fact used the dossier in it's FISA applications without ever attempting to verify the content or even interview him until after the fact . His information conveniently reenforced the narrative they wanted to peddle . They were not duped at all.

    There will be no accountability until Durham gets this right . If there is another acquittal I believe Clueless anf Garland will shut the investigation down . Already the narrative on the left is that the investigation has gone on too long and that Durham is only fishing and making marginal charges .After 3 years investigating ,we should be much further along .

    edit found this op-ed this morning
    Deep State Allies Play Judge, Jury and Perhaps Executioner Against Durham | Opinion (newsweek.com)
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    #78

    Jun 4, 2022, 10:39 AM
    100 days of war. Clueless has done absolutely nothing in an attempt to come up with a diplomatic solution to the war. Instead the US continues to pump massive amounts of weaponry for the apparent goal of bleeding the Russians while not sending enough weapons to be a decisive game changer .

    Clueless could be like Teddy Roosevelt who took the lead in a negotiated end to the Russia -China war 1904-5 . He could even get that coveted Nobel Peace Prize out of it .
    Who is winning ? The US Arms industry
    Who is losing ? Ukraine people ;Russian people ,US taxpayer ,hundreds of millions of people facing famine mostly in 3rd world nations .
    What happened to the American anti-war left ? They have all become war mongers .
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    Jul 21, 2022, 05:15 AM
    Durham keeps plodding along. Next up to watch is the trial of Igor Danchenko. Durham has requested no less than 30 subpoenas for this trial

    John Durham requesting 30 subpoenas a serious move, Kash Patel says | U.S. & World | gazette.com

    It will be in Virginia ;not in the swamp .

    On top of that there is more than a dozen referrals from Congress to Durham for cases of potential perjury involving the emperor's administration and Evita campaign officials who have testified behind closed doors about their involvement in the Russia hoax .
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    Sep 14, 2022, 01:39 PM
    Durham revealed in court filings before the trial that Igor Danchenko not only worked with Christopher Steele to concoct the bogus salacious Steele dossier ;he also was a paid informant for the FBI.The filing states that "in March 2017, the FBI signed the defendant up as a paid confidential human source ofthe FBI. The FBI terminated its source relationship with the defendant in October 2020."The filing says that the FBI during that period was trying "to determine the truth or falsity of specific information in the Steele Reports." Yet, it was paying one of the key figures in the conspiracy .

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