[tomder55]

according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC ) One person infected with covid will usually infect around three other people . A super-spreader is someone who infects more than this number of people.

[jlisenbe]

I'm sure you do.

You said, "200 out of 385,000 isn't at superspreader level," so I asked what a "superspreader level" is. It was an honest question. I have no idea what a "superspreader level" is. I certainly don't trust a politician telling us it is or isn't this or that. If you don't know, then fine. I don't either, but I don't know how you could make the statement above if you can't answer that question. Tom's definition is no doubt accurate for one person, but how do you judge an event as being "superspreader level"?

[Wondergirl]

Super-spreading events "occur when a single person infects a large number of other people — sometimes 10, 20, sometimes even more in one setting," said Dr. Justin Lessler, an associate professor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/super-s...r-coronavirus/

[jlisenbe]

So 200 wouldn't qualify?

[Wondergirl]

How many attendees were positive for covid? 200 infected was not a "large number".

385,000 - 200 = ?

[jlisenbe]

But that’s not your definition. Your definition was one person infecting a large number of others. Did that happen? You said a large number was ten or twenty, but now you say two hundred is not a large number?

[Wondergirl]

How many of the 385,000 attendees were positive for covid? One? Ten? Fifty? We don't know. Two hundred-plus was the infected number after the event.

[jlisenbe]

So there is a lot not known. I would think that would make it difficult to arrive at a conclusion. Also don't know how many asymptomatic cases there were, or how many are yet to be diagnosed.

[tomder55]

give me hospitalization and death rates . Rates of infection are irrelevant at this point. Most people in this country have had either /or the vax or the virus .

[jlisenbe]

Good point. In many states, infections are up substantially, but deaths have remained steady. Now it's all too easy to talk about deaths like it's a baseball score, but it is still significant. South Dakota, for instance, has not had a Covid death since early May.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=covid+...53586125F4E93D

[Athos]

give me hospitalization and death rates . Rates of infection are irrelevant at this point. Most people in this country have had either /or the vax or the virus .

That is not true. About half have been fully vaccinated, leaving the other half endangering both unvaccinated children and unvaccinated adults. The number infected is an estimate, but if vaccinated, they rarely end up in the hospital and die. The infected are now 99% unvaccinated who are hospitalized and/or die.

Most of the reasons for not being vaccinated are beyond bizarre. They have a right to endanger themselves but not others.

[jlisenbe]

If you look at those 12 and above, considering that the Trump vaccine has not been cleared yet for children, then it is far more than 50%. If you look at the most vulnerable, that being those 50 and above, then more than 80% have been vaxed. So Tom is exactly correct, and certainly if you throw in, as he said, those who have already had the virus. Most of the country has been vaxed or had the virus.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...racker-states/