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    Jun 8, 2021, 11:12 AM
    Latest Episode in the Life of AOC
    AOC posted recently that her grandmother was living in poverty because, she claimed, Trump had blocked hurricane relief. She included some pics of her "abuela's" house which, she said, was in terrible condition. That raised the question of why AOC, who just recently purchased a Tesla for 70K, could not get off her sorry backside and help her own grandmother, thus relieving the American taxpayers of the burden of doing so. In that regard she would certainly seem to be the stereotypical liberal dem, but others, happily, did respond. A GoFundMe account was started with the intention of raising money to help, and they raised 100 grand in about half a day, but both AOC and the grandmother REFUSED THE HELP!! Evidently the supposed political profit from having a destitute grandmother is more important than the grandmother.

    SUPPORT: https://www.newsmax.com/politics/aoc...05/id/1024032/
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    Jun 8, 2021, 12:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Evidently the supposed political profit from having a destitute grandmother is more important than the grandmother.
    You and Matt Walsh missed AOC's point entirely! Your cherrypicking and insistence on the literal always trips you up.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 12:38 PM
    Nah. You just fall for anything a lib dem says. I have no respect at all for anyone so sorry they won’t help their own grandmother. How sorry can you get? And then too dumb to accept help from a third party? Yeah. The literal is pretty bad there. If Trump had done it, your head would be exploding. Situational ethics at play.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 01:17 PM
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    Nah. You just fall for anything a lib dem says. I have no respect at all for anyone so sorry they won’t help their own grandmother.
    And you know she hasn't? And how do you know?
    And then too dumb to accept help from a third party?
    And that third party's motives were what?

    NEVER would I start a GoFundMe campaign without first talking with the potential recipient(s) as to their needs.

    And yep, you totally missed it (cherrypicking again?). AOC said (her point in mentioning her abuela): "Hurricane Marķa relief hasn’t arrived. Trump blocked relief $ for PR. People are being forced to flee ancestral homes, & developers are taking them," she said. "We immediately got to work reaching out to community advocates and leaders and following the money. What’s happening to Puerto Ricans is systemic. Much of it can be traced to La Junta, aka the Wall Street-connected fiscal control board that the US gave power to over the island."
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    Jun 8, 2021, 01:51 PM
    Because according to AOC, her grandmother is still living in poverty, so either she is a sorry person who would not help her own grandmother, or she is a liar. Take your pick.

    I don't know the third party's motives, but I do know they collected 100K for her. How much did you collect?

    NEVER would I start a GoFundMe campaign without first talking with the potential recipient(s) as to their needs.
    How noble of you. So while you were doing nothing, they were doing something. I like them a lot better. Your words are worthless.

    Hurricane Marķa relief hasn’t arrived.
    It certainly hasn't arrived from her. You are such a lib dem. The only charity that counts is the charity that arrives from the feds in the form of other people's money. It's so common.

    What’s happening to Puerto Ricans is systemic. Much of it can be traced to La Junta, aka the Wall Street-connected fiscal control board that the US gave power to over the island."
    Remember the Athos principle of documentation.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 01:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Because according to AOC, her grandmother is still living in poverty, so either she is a sorry person who would not help her own grandmother, or she is a liar. Take your pick.

    I don't know the third party's motives, but I do know they collected 100K for her. How much did you collect?

    How noble of you. So while you were doing nothing, they were doing something. I like them a lot better. Your words are worthless.

    It certainly hasn't arrived from her. You are such a lib dem. The only charity that counts is the charity that arrives from the feds in the form of other people's money. It's so common.

    Remember the Athos principle of documentation.
    Wow, you sure get nasty when you're on the wrong side of a discussion. With you, nasty always trumps truth.

    Read your own link to answer your question. It's right there.

    Then re-read WG's post where the truth is laid out. Your nastiness is on a par with your "intelligence".

    Pray tell - what is the Athos principle of documentation? Is it anything like your suffering from ADS?
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    Jun 8, 2021, 02:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Because according to AOC, her grandmother is still living in poverty
    Documentation?
    I don't know the third party's motives
    Oh, golly gee whiz. Take a guess.
    So while you were doing nothing, they were doing something.
    Again, their motive?
    It certainly hasn't arrived from her.
    Documentation?
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    Jun 8, 2021, 02:10 PM
    The documentation is in the link in post one that you obviously didn’t bother to read.

    I don’t know the motive and neither do you. I do know that they helped and you didn’t, so your holier than thou attitude is foolishness.

    I wonder what AOC’s motive was for sitting on her axx while her gm was in poverty??? I hope that Tesla drives well.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 02:23 PM
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    The documentation is in the link in post one that you obviously didn’t bother to read.
    YOU didn't bother to read the entire article but simply picked the sweetest cherries.
    I wonder what AOC’s motive was for sitting on her axx while her gm was in poverty??? I hope that Tesla drives well.
    Your information is soooooo incorrect. I won't even bother to sit you down and explain. You wouldn't listen and would refuse to understand anyway.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 02:33 PM
    Another empty response. Believe lies if you want to but spout them to someone else. AOCs post was very clear. My info was exactly correct.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 02:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Another empty response. Believe lies if you want to but spout them to someone else. AOCs post was very clear. My info was exactly correct.
    There was a LOT more to AOC's quote than what you posted.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 02:51 PM
    I portrayed the story about her gm exactly as it was. If you want to talk about Trump, then start another thread, but I'm not going to believe anything a sorry scumbag says who will not even support her own gm. No way. And especially not when she is scooting around in her new Tesla.

    This sort of vacuous response from you gets old. "Your information is soooooo incorrect. I won't even bother to sit you down and explain. You wouldn't listen and would refuse to understand anyway." It is entirely devoid of any information. No one would take it seriously. If you want to be taken seriously, then post something meaningful.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 03:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I portrayed the story about her gm exactly as it was. If you want to talk about Trump, then start another thread, but I'm not going to believe anything a sorry scumbag says who will not even support her own gm. No way. And especially not when she is scooting around in her new Tesla.
    AOC has reported on her abuela whose house is being repaired while she lives in a safe place.
    No one would take it seriously. If you want to be taken seriously, then post something meaningful.
    Meaningful, like your posts?
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    Jun 8, 2021, 03:24 PM
    Document your AOC info.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 03:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Document your AOC info.
    It's in the link you posted.

    Here's the entire tweet:
    "And for the record - my abuela is doing okay. It’s not about us, but about what’s happening to Puerto Rican’s across the island. She had a place to go to and be cared for - what about the thousands of people who don’t?"

    A followup tweet by Jake Squibbs:
    "All those responding with negatively towards AOC have totally missed the point she is making! People all over PR are suffering because of the incompetence of the previous administration."
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    Jun 8, 2021, 03:38 PM
    Where does it say her house is being repaired?
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    Jun 8, 2021, 03:54 PM
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    Where does it say her house is being repaired?
    Google that.
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    Jun 8, 2021, 03:55 PM
    Her gm has been in distress. What has she done to help her other than run her mouth?
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    Jun 8, 2021, 04:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post

    A followup tweet by Jake Squibbs:
    "All those responding with negatively towards AOC have totally missed the point she is making! People all over PR are suffering because of the incompetence of the previous administration."
    so her grandmother has to suffer so she can make a point, so much for caring liberal politics
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    Jun 8, 2021, 04:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Her gm has been in distress. What has she done to help her other than run her mouth?
    Why are you so concerned about her abuela now? The hurricane was in September 2017. Why weren't you concerned then?



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    And for the record - my abuela is doing okay. It’s not about us, but about what’s happening to Puerto Rican’s across the island.She had a place to go to and be cared for - what about the thousands of people who don’t?

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