[Athos]

You are concerned about polling times when there are greater issues

There is no greater issue than voting in a democracy.

[tomder55]

Thus the reason we want to guarantee the integrity of the process .

[Athos]

Thus the reason we want to guarantee the integrity of the process .

Agreed

[tomder55]

And that is why garbage law like HR1 is harmful. Take for example the mandate in HR1 for states to mail out absentee ballots to everyone registered . Connecticut spent $7.1 million in 2020 to do just that . They sent them to 3.6 million voters . 865,000 were returned . Any one of those ballots would've been available free to any voter who requested them . So we will never know how many actual votes were added because of the $8.20 /vote returned initiative .
On top of that more than 8% of the ballots mailed came back as undeliverable . There were almost 200,000 people on the rolls that did not vote in the last 2 elections . They have not been purged from the rolls and those ballots also went out .
Extrapolate those numbers to a national mandate and tell me that guarantees the integrity of the ballot . And don't you think the state of Connecticut ;one of the highest taxed states in the union, could've put that $7 million to better use ?

[jlisenbe]

There were almost 200,000 people on the rolls that did not vote in the last 2 elections . They have not been purged from the rolls and those ballots also went out .

And therein lies the problem. Even if everything is run in a legit way, and that's highly doubtful, it still gives the impression that the election is not being done in a secure manner, and that gives the impression of fraud. People need to be able to have confidence in election returns. That, at present, is not the case.

[paraclete]

So the answer lies in process; a federal agency that overseas the election, supervises every polling place and count. Just think of the logistics. tell me again, why haven't you thought of this already, something about states rights wasn't it?

[jlisenbe]

Yes. That's exactly what it's about. A larger fed gov is not what we need. Just look at your own country. Compulsory voting, very high tax rates, tepid economic growth, and oppressive gun control. Nope. I'll pass on that.

[Athos]

And that is why garbage law like HR1 is harmful. Take for example the mandate in HR1 for states to mail out absentee ballots to everyone registered . Connecticut spent $7.1 million in 2020 to do just that . They sent them to 3.6 million voters . 865,000 were returned . Any one of those ballots would've been available free to any voter who requested them . So we will never know how many actual votes were added because of the $8.20 /vote returned initiative .
On top of that more than 8% of the ballots mailed came back as undeliverable . There were almost 200,000 people on the rolls that did not vote in the last 2 elections . They have not been purged from the rolls and those ballots also went out .
Extrapolate those numbers to a national mandate and tell me that guarantees the integrity of the ballot . And don't you think the state of Connecticut ;one of the highest taxed states in the union, could've put that $7 million to better use ?

Would you provide a source for the above? Your recent posts have been so misleading, I need to ask. Thank you.

[tomder55]

Find it yourself .

[jlisenbe]

Athos is concerned about misleading posts. You don’t say?

[Athos]

Find it yourself .

That's what I thought - you made it up.

[tomder55]

you can believe that if you wish . Doesn't matter if i provide it or not . You have decided I lack credibility . So believe what you will . Or look it up yourself . My source is easily found ;and that also has collaborative links .

[Athos]

you can believe that if you wish .

I wish not to believe it. You have recently posted stats and links that are not true. The 172 page link that had nothing to do with US voting fraud was a doozie. There are others.

If you don't wish to support what you posted re Connecticut, that is your right. But don't expect anyone to believe it.

You have decided I lack credibility

No, you have done that all by yourself.

[jlisenbe]

If you don't wish to support what you posted re Connecticut, that is your right. But don't expect anyone to believe it.

I'm saving that one. I have no doubt it will come in handy in the months to come. Unsupported statements lack credibility. Seems like I've heard that before.

[paraclete]

do your own research

[tomder55]

Connecticut actually did pretty well as the national average for undelivered election mailings is 15%.... and add to that over 300,000 ballots nationwide that received incoming scans at postal plants but not exit scans .. In many cases the person received a mail in ballot and decided to vote in person. In Georgia they kept on counting "found " missing votes until they got the results they wanted .

[talaniman]

It appears Arizona is trying to find some of those lost votes for the doofus! I guess that's okay for the taxpayers to foot that bill.

[tomder55]

big difference between finding votes under a table after Republican counters are dismissed and an audit recount.

[talaniman]

big difference between finding votes under a table after Republican counters are dismissed and an audit recount.

Even bigger difference between state-sanctioned certified auditors and right wing dufus Defenders with black lights looking for bamboo fibers.

[paraclete]

so the rage continues, meanwhile the government goes quietly on