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    May 31, 2021, 03:52 AM
    Memorial Day
    As we prepare to celebrate Memorial Day by remembering those who have given the ultimate sacrifice, it is important to look back to the holiday’s origins. The first Memorial Day celebration, then called “Decoration Day”, was held on May 5, 1866 in Waterloo, NY to honor local veterans who had fought in the Civil War, which ended just a year before. Other cities including Macon, GA, Columbus, GA, Richmond, VA, Boalsburg, PA, Carbondale, IL and Columbus, MS also held early “Decoration Day” events, marked by decoration of veteran’s graves.

    Three years after the end of the Civil War in 1868, an organization made up of Union veterans, called the Grand Army of the Republic, officially established Decoration Day as a time for the country to honor their war dead by decorating their graves with flowers. The first nationally-recognized Decoration Day was held on May 30, 1868. Throughout the next 100 years, communities throughout the US took up the annual practice but honored fallen soldiers in different ways and on different spring days. That is until 1971 when Congress declared Memorial Day a national holiday and set its day of observance for the last Monday in May.

    Many count 1866, 1868 or 1971 as the year that Memorial Day came into existence. However, the spirit of Memorial Day was brought to life even before the Civil War ended. It was a lawyer’s short speech of less than 300 words that historians think was hastily written on a train ride to the 1863 event that now comes to mind during our modern-day Memorial Day parades and barbeques. That lawyer was President Abraham Lincoln and the speech was the now-famous and oft-quoted Gettysburg Address given on Nov. 19, 1863 in commemoration of the final resting places of 51,000 Americans in Gettysburg, PA........"



    "It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
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    Jun 1, 2021, 06:19 AM
    What Lincoln said on that day has come to pass, government by the people, for the people has passed from the land
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    Jun 1, 2021, 08:48 AM
    succumbing to the woke empire I fear
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    Jun 1, 2021, 09:32 PM
    yes undoubtedly if it isn't left it isn't right
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    Jun 2, 2021, 05:03 AM
    Our pols have discovered that we are completely willing to allow them to borrow/print money to fund foolish spending. It's a fool's paradise.
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    Jun 2, 2021, 06:23 AM
    Well one part of that statement is right, paradise it is not
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    Jun 2, 2021, 07:32 AM
    Can always count on the man from the little country for a hateful statement.
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    Jun 2, 2021, 09:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    succumbing to the woke empire I fear
    The dufus didn't help any for sure...nor did repubs in the forming of a more perfect union.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Our pols have discovered that we are completely willing to allow them to borrow/print money to fund foolish spending. It's a fool's paradise.
    Biden's plans have pay for's unlike the repubs who don't.
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    Jun 2, 2021, 01:22 PM
    and in yours and Quid's fantasy world " taxing the rich " can pay for trillions in additional spending including massive giveaways .The old Quid of the 90s broke with radical leftists to vote for fiscal responsibility and balanced budgets . But let's assume he is honest in his desires to have "pay fors " . The rest of the Dems in Congress ;even the so called moderates don't care and believe there is a need for massive deficit spending .
    Just wait for interest rates to rise when the Fed is faced with the choice of increasing the rates or seeing this "temporary inflation " becoming a permanent 10 year event .
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    Jun 2, 2021, 02:03 PM
    Those who want to make the statement that "taxing the rich" can pay for these massive deficits, I'd like to see the figures. Do the math. I'd like to see the estimated effect on the economy when money needed for investment in new business growth is not available. It's just dreaming. Obama raised taxes on the rich and ended up doubling the national debt in only eight years. I understand that he was also the only eight year pres we ever had who never hit 3% growth in GDP.
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    Jun 2, 2021, 03:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Can always count on the man from the little country for a hateful statement.
    My comment was not hateful, simply true
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    Jun 3, 2021, 05:22 AM
    Under Quid's dream ,by 2024, federal debt as a percentage of the GDP would reach its highest level in history, surpassing the record set in World War II. By the end of 2031, public debt would rise to 117 percent of GDP .The national debt would stand at $39 trillion, up from its current unsustainable level of $28.4 trillion.
    As far as the lie that this is stimulative ; by his own admission ,it projects modest 2% growth or less through most of it's life . Also consider that this budget does not even address other initiatives that Quid promised in the campaign like universal health care, Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, climate change, college aid, and other spending priorities.
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    Jun 3, 2021, 06:53 AM
    And the REALLY bad news is this. In WW2, federal debt ballooned to provide for war expenses which would basically disappear in 1945, thus doing away with budget deficits. Now, however, debt is being used to pay for expenses which are not going to go away, so there is no plan in place to pay for these things other than continued deficits. When the day comes that this can no longer be done and the welfare class sees their benefits cut, it is going to be dangerous.
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    Jun 3, 2021, 07:17 AM
    Ho hum! There ain't never no money unless you guys get control of the purse strings and you binge spend on your crap. Then there's plenty of loot and not a peep about the deficit.

    Hypocritical greedy b@stards.
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    Jun 3, 2021, 04:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    And the REALLY bad news is this. In WW2, federal debt ballooned to provide for war expenses which would basically disappear in 1945, thus doing away with budget deficits. Now, however, debt is being used to pay for expenses which are not going to go away, so there is no plan in place to pay for these things other than continued deficits. When the day comes that this can no longer be done and the welfare class sees their benefits cut, it is going to be dangerous.
    nothing else for it but population control, or is that 'lation control

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