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May 25, 2021, 12:09 PM
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I don't mind your critical remarks about Trump, though I would say he built a major business empire which Biden/Harris never did. Still, he is worthy of criticism. It is your abysmal support and defense of Biden/Harris that is incredible.
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May 25, 2021, 12:13 PM
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I agree with the Governors who have lifted mask mandates . Madam Mim is just being power hungry . She is also a hypocrite as she has been seen numerous times in gatherings without a mask on.
It's the same thing she pulled making legislators go through metal detectors ;and pay a fine if not . Even IF there was a REAL threat about visitors in the Capitol ,there was NEVER a threat that would justify requiring an elected Rep to pass through special security measures .
Tal I agree . MJG isn't off her rocker .
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May 25, 2021, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
I agree with the Governors who have lifted mask mandates .
Then please list the rules and release from rules you would set as public policy.
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May 25, 2021, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
I agree with the Governors who have lifted mask mandates . Madam Mim is just being power hungry . She is also a hypocrite as she has been seen numerous times in gatherings without a mask on.
It's the same thing she pulled making legislators go through metal detectors ;and pay a fine if not . Even IF there was a REAL threat about visitors in the Capitol ,there was NEVER a threat that would justify requiring an elected Rep to pass through special security measures .
I don't know about that since certain wingers have tried to carry a gun into the chambers before and a lot of old people in the halls of congress. I think it may be okay for Governors to lift mask mandates, but banning localities that discretion if warranted is simply irresponsible.
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May 25, 2021, 12:19 PM
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WG ;the one and only rule that applies is that there will no longer be a governmental requirement to wear masks in public .
Tal ;if you think there is a risk from a lawmaker that justifies ridiculous measures then either your paranoia is showing ,or perhaps you think we are in the late 1850s on the verge of a civil war .
I can understand since the Dems are ginning up all types of exaggerations about what happened Jan 6 like Schmucky comparing it to the Pearl Harbor attack and trying to set up a 9-11 type commission ...... with people being arrested and held in solitary confinement without any due process.
Jan. 6 defendants win unlikely Dem champions as they face harsh detainment - POLITICO
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May 25, 2021, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Germans were told that Jews were 'the other' .The Nuremberg laws defined who was a Jew and who was not a Jew. Jews were then separated from the rest of society . Laws against hiring ,attending schools ,other public places were initiated . (do you have your vax papers ? What about a vax passport ? )
I don't know how far the country will take this
Tom, it's not like you to join the nutcase category - I'm trying my best to keep you out it, but you're not helping.
Can ghettoization (forced quarantine ) of non-vaccinated people happen ?
Quarantine is not "ghettoization". It does not lead to cattle cars full of people om their way to be gassed to death.
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May 25, 2021, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Can't talk without prepared notes. Can't answer impromptu questions.
Of course they can, and have. It is Trump that could never talk coherently without a script. Speaking impromptu, he was incoherent, and often resorted to being a raging lunatic.
Sleeps with the political boss to get a promotion.
Wow - you are really hitting rock bottom. Maybe you should stick to telling all of us about your wonderful bible. I'm sure you can find filthy stories there to regale us with.
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May 25, 2021, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
WG ;the one and only rule that applies is that there will no longer be a governmental requirement to wear masks in public .
Who or what will require mask wearing?
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May 25, 2021, 01:41 PM
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Of course they can, and have.
It is well known that Biden wants the questions in advance for press conferences.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...stions-advance
Sleeps with the political boss to get a promotion.
Wow - you are really hitting rock bottom. Maybe you should stick to telling all of us about your wonderful bible. I'm sure you can find filthy stories there to regale us with.
She dated Willie Brown extensively when he was thirty or forty years older than her. I no doubt went too far is saying they slept together, but they dated extensively and he promoted her. Why would a sixty year old man date a 30 year old woman? You do the math. But yes, it cannot be stated for certain. You know, sort of like the many accusations you make against Trump. Lot's of smoke but a lack of certain fire.
Yes, the Bible is wonderful.
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May 25, 2021, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
It is well known that Biden wants the questions in advance for press conferences.
And Trump should have had them ahead of time so he'd stay on topic and not walk off stage when one didn't suit him.
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May 25, 2021, 02:00 PM
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[FONT=Arial, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#000000]At least you are acknowledging that your hero cannot think fast enough to answer questions on the spot. Real genius. [/COLOR][/FONT]
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May 25, 2021, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
[FONT=Arial, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#000000]At least you are acknowledging that your hero cannot think fast enough to answer questions on the spot. Real genius. [/COLOR][/FONT]
A true disciple...please fix your brackets.
Nope, didn't acknowledge that at all. You're reading ghost words.
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May 25, 2021, 02:59 PM
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And Trump should have had them ahead of time
The "And" is your acknowledgment.
I don't know why those brackets appear. I have tired of fixing them. I'm just going to come to love them.
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May 25, 2021, 03:28 PM
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She dated Willie Brown extensively when he was thirty or forty years older than her. I no doubt went too far is saying they slept together, but they dated extensively and he promoted her. Why would a sixty year old man date a 30 year old woman? You do the math. But yes, it cannot be stated for certain. You know, sort of like the many accusations you make against Trump. Lot's of smoke but a lack of certain fire.
At least you admit your mind is in the gutter and you don't know what you're talking about. Somewhat anyway
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May 25, 2021, 04:01 PM
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Who or what will require mask wearing?
still practicing the Socratic method ?
This is what I think .... my body /my choice. Private entities can set rules as they choose. 'No mask ;no service" . But I would not permit the government to mandate it again.
The evidence is in :Mask mandates did NOT prevent the end of the year surge . Of the 100 counties with the most confirmed cases during this period, 97 had either a county-level mask mandate, a state-level mandate, or both. Of the 25 counties with the highest new case totals, all 25 had a mask mandate.
Better than mask mandates would be to protect the elderly in nursing homes and those most vulnerable . Then let the rest of the country go on with their lives .
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May 25, 2021, 04:05 PM
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Better than mask mandates would be to protect the elderly in nursing homes and those most vulnerable . Then let the rest of the country go on with their lives .
Absolutely correct.
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May 26, 2021, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
This is what I think .... my body /my choice. Private entities can set rules as they choose. 'No mask ;no service" . But I would not permit the government to mandate it again.
You two are two peas in a pod. Your private choice is more important than the attempt to stop the spread of a deadly virus. Your knee-jerk reaction to anything the government does is ridiculous. Like your fellow crazy person, Greene, wearing a mask is one step away from gas chambers.
The elderly should just die if masks are mandated for nursery homes. Who needs them anyway, their being a drain on the all-important economy. Why don't we just kill all the non-productive members of society. The unborn don't make money, so abortion is good. Moloch and Mammon are your true gods.
Anyone reading these pages has a good insight into the wacky white evangelicals supporting an evil character like Trump. HIM as government, you like! Right?
The evidence is in :Mask mandates did NOT prevent the end of the year surge . Of the 100 counties with the most confirmed cases during this period, 97 had either a county-level mask mandate, a state-level mandate, or both. Of the 25 counties with the highest new case totals, all 25 had a mask mandate.
Tomder, you have been wrong in so many claims of yours that I won't even ask you for a link. You wouldn't answer anyway. Three times you couldn't answer for yourself as to what programs are "socialistic".
Sometimes you write fact-based posts, but too often your posts are not fact-based, just some nonsense from whatever website you get the stuff from - or your own imagination. I can predict your reply (both of you) to this post, so can the others here.
Stick to the facts Tom and get your creds back. (Calm down, Tom's little helper. We know you're frothing at the bit to jump in here.)
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May 26, 2021, 04:43 AM
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May 26, 2021, 04:48 AM
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yawn your ad hominins are boring .Perhaps you missed this
"Better than mask mandates would be to protect the elderly in nursing homes and those most vulnerable . Then let the rest of the country go on with their lives"
Mask mandates had no effect in the Autumn surge . 8.8 million new cases mostly in the areas where mask mandates were the most prevalent . Providing links is a waste of time . Most of the garbage you write you do not provide verifying links to either .
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May 26, 2021, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Mask mandates had no effect in the Autumn surge
Wearing masks is SCIENCE.
Most of the garbage you write you do not provide verifying links to either .
My posts are based on logic, common sense, and what is already in effect. When links are needed, I provide them. For example, not being an expert on climate science, I provided two excellent links for you - which I doubt you read since they go against your (false) ideas.
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