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    #61

    May 20, 2021, 04:07 PM
    Israel should do a much better job of policing the borders this time
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    #62

    May 20, 2021, 05:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    cease fire announced . wash rinse repeat

    Israel will stop . Hamas will continue for a few hours after the cease fire goes into effect so Hamas can show the people of Gaza they are still standing . Soon the humanitarian aid checks will be written to support the Palestinians while Israel will lick their wounds and explains that 'giving peace a chance' is what mature, grown-up nations do.
    Israel has had decades to give peace a chance yet they've chosen domination and expansion instead so good luck with that!
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    May 20, 2021, 07:05 PM
    We better start paying attention to the importance of secure borders.
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    May 20, 2021, 11:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Israel has had decades to give peace a chance yet they've chosen domination and expansion instead so good luck with that!
    get off their case you don't live close to a terrorist haven
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    #65

    May 21, 2021, 04:28 AM
    get off their case you don't live close to a terrorist haven
    Well said. It's easy for people to sermonize when they're not the ones constantly having to fight for their lives. There is no question but that there would be peace today if the Arabs were willing to live and let live.
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    May 21, 2021, 08:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    get off their case you don't live close to a terrorist haven
    A bad neighborhood and enemies is no excuse for bombing innocents, caged like sardines in a ghetto of Israeli making. That's neither intelligent, humane, or befitting "God's chosen people".

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Well said. It's easy for people to sermonize when they're not the ones constantly having to fight for their lives. There is no question but that there would be peace today if the Arabs were willing to live and let live.
    It's even easier to stand by and let a mighty nation rollover the Palestinians instead of dealing with the real terrorists and their enablers.
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    May 21, 2021, 01:10 PM
    You know how the US handled frequent attacks on population areas in the 1830s Removed the threat .
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    #68

    May 21, 2021, 02:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    A bad neighborhood and enemies is no excuse for bombing innocents, caged like sardines in a ghetto of Israeli making. That's neither intelligent, humane, or befitting "God's chosen people".



    It's even easier to stand by and let a mighty nation rollover the Palestinians instead of dealing with the real terrorists and their enablers.
    it is easy to be one eyed to be politically correct, the truth is these people have never accepted Israel and the right to live in peace

    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    You know how the US handled frequent attacks on population areas in the 1830s Removed the threat .
    Yes but that was internal and some of those attacks were provoked, you wouldn't do it today
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    May 21, 2021, 07:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    it is easy to be one eyed to be politically correct, the truth is these people have never accepted Israel and the right to live in peace
    So the conquerors should be accepted by the conquered? That's never happened even if there was little to be done about it.
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    #70

    May 21, 2021, 09:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    So the conquerors should be accepted by the conquered? That's never happened even if there was little to be done about it.
    the attitude of your nation in respect of its indigenous why should Israel be held to a different standard, these people have started wars time and time again and been conquered each time these just don't care about their own
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    #71

    May 22, 2021, 01:29 AM
    “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”Golda Meir As long as the rhetoric and desires of Israel's enemies is the destruction and extermination of the Jewish state then there will be no peace ;and Israel has no choice but to do everything they can to make sure that doesn't happen . They have shown great restraint by historical standards .

    The truth is that this war was provoked by Tehran for the purpose of straining the Abraham Accords .So far it appears that goal has not succeeded . They also want Quid at the table for JCPOA 2.0
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    #72

    May 22, 2021, 04:27 AM
    Peace will come when the arab leaders are dead, this is unlikely to happen any time soon

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