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Jun 12, 2021, 06:03 AM
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Jl that is crap and you know it a person who doesn't get vaccinated not only puts themselves at risk, they put their family at risk, their friends and associates but this is the sort of stupid crap we have come to expect from you, give me liberty or give me death, well death is closer than you think
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Jun 12, 2021, 06:14 AM
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and as Franklin said "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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Jun 12, 2021, 06:46 AM
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Jl that is crap and you know it a person who doesn't get vaccinated not only puts themselves at risk, they put their family at risk, their friends and associates but this is the sort of stupid crap we have come to expect from you, give me liberty or give me death, well death is closer than you think
Nope. They only put themselves at risk. The family members can get vaccinated. The friends can get vaccinated. The associates can get vaccinated. Anyone who wants to, as I have said, can get vaccinated. You simply don't know what you're talking about.
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Jun 12, 2021, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
and as Franklin said "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Wearing a mask is about safety not freedom. The same as cops wearing a vest and fireman with helmets and oxygen tanks.
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Nope. They only put themselves at risk. The family members can get vaccinated. The friends can get vaccinated. The associates can get vaccinated. Anyone who wants to, as I have said, can get vaccinated. You simply don't know what you're talking about.
Did that apply before the vaccine?
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Jun 12, 2021, 08:47 AM
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The same as cops wearing a vest and fireman with helmets and oxygen tanks.
that would be mandated by the job requirement .
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Jun 12, 2021, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
There is no American who does not have access to vaccines .
Up until recently, the homebound didn't. Finally county health departments and fire-department EMTs are going to homes to give shots. Unfortunately, only the one-shot vaccine is given.
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Jun 12, 2021, 09:14 AM
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Exactly. Don't want to wear a vest? Find another job. Job requirements are very common. Requiring people to take a vaccine that is unproven and could have negative side effects not yet discovered is a totally different story.
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...t-inflammation
Up until recently, the homebound didn't.
So in that case, don't allow visitors who are not vaccinated. Makes perfectly good sense in that situation, but not in the general pop.
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Jun 12, 2021, 10:34 AM
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Quid's bold move @ G7 is as follows
Already discussed giving 500 million doses away to other nations
Bullying the world of lesser economies to tax American corporations at least 15% The world's richest economies readily agree since they all have higher corporate taxes already . Which world government will enforce this tax on Americans ?
Announced today they he will not appear in a joint presser with Putin after their summit . He knows he would get shown up .
So what is the compliant press reporting ? That Quid was smiling at the G7 group photo .
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Jun 12, 2021, 11:22 AM
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he announced a $ 40 trillion "build back better for the world " global infrastructure " plan
Whoever owns Monopoly better start printing the money faster.
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Jun 12, 2021, 11:37 AM
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He thinks the 15% world wide global tax on American corporations will cover it . (consumer beware ) I've noticed how he couches Euro-socialist ideas into his radical leftist agenda . He is not a radical progressive socialist .He is just a globalist .
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Jun 12, 2021, 01:04 PM
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The math will jot even come close to adding up. It never does.
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Jun 12, 2021, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
He thinks the 15% world wide global tax on American corporations will cover it . (consumer beware ) I've noticed how he couches Euro-socialist ideas into his radical leftist agenda . He is not a radical progressive socialist .He is just a globalist .
These corporations have been tax evaders for years and only a concerted effort can rein them in, so applaud the idea
Originally Posted by tomder55
so this is the american belt and road plan, a plan to follow China, definite proof america no longer leads
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Jun 12, 2021, 06:03 PM
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Corporate tax rates should be $0 . All taxes paid are passed on to the consumer . The corporation just becomes the government collection agent . Quid and Yellen are full of sh+t . The US charges a 35% rate (or will charge that if Quid reverses Trump's cuts ) and wonders why US corporations set up shop in Ireland . This is just the G7 punishing nations that can't afford to drive businesses away . I ask again ;who is going to collect this world tax ?
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Jun 12, 2021, 06:58 PM
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A world tax. We should all be terrified. Either that or fighting mad.
The problem is one that no one wants to touch. Our fed government is on a spending spree which we, the American people, have allowed. In 2000 the budget was 1.8 tril. Our wonderful pres has now suggested we spend over 6 trillion. So in only a little over 20 years, we are to believe that we now need to spend over three times more than in 2000. And in 2000 we actually had a surplus of nearly 100 billion dollars.
We have lost our minds.
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Jun 12, 2021, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Corporate tax rates should be $0 . All taxes paid are passed on to the consumer . The corporation just becomes the government collection agent . Quid and Yellen are full of sh+t . The US charges a 35% rate (or will charge that if Quid reverses Trump's cuts ) and wonders why US corporations set up shop in Ireland . This is just the G7 punishing nations that can't afford to drive businesses away . I ask again ;who is going to collect this world tax ?
I hear the sheep bleating, they are about to be sheared, and who are bleating the most, those with the thickest coats but why should an individual care what these monopolistic, multinationals are taxed, they are just tax evaders and their time has come
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Jun 12, 2021, 08:19 PM
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A corporation is not a personally owned business. Corporations are owned by shareholders (usually MANY) who receive the profits and can then be taxed on those. And as Tom said, they only receive money by selling something. Tax the corporation and prices automatically go up. The money has to come from somewhere.
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Jun 13, 2021, 03:43 AM
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yes if you want to tax corporations the better plan would be to tax cap gains as regular income . There is where the real tax evasion is happening legally .
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Jun 13, 2021, 04:34 AM
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The problem is one that no one wants to touch. Our fed government is on a spending spree which we, the American people, have allowed. In 2000 the budget was 1.8 tril. Our wonderful pres has now suggested we spend over 6 trillion. So in only a little over 20 years, we are to believe that we now need to spend over three times more than in 2000. And in 2000 we actually had a surplus of nearly 100 billion dollars.
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,(Kipling 'The Gods of the CopybookHeadings')
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Jun 13, 2021, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,(Kipling 'The Gods of the CopybookHeadings')
No George Bush available to declare mission accomplished, The Biden infrastructure initiative, let's call it the BII is another way of getting the third world indebted to pay for US workers to Build US infrastructure in their countries
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