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    Apr 5, 2021, 04:52 AM
    maybe the sports leagues should get out of the politics /social justice /cancel culture ;and stick to what they were good at ......entertainment . The classic example of successful sports marketing was Michael Jordan sneakers . Back when the NBA was struggling ,they could not afford to alienate any potential fans who would spend $$ on the game . So when the question arose ;Michael Jordon said 'Republicans buy sneakers too " .
    Of course now he is a billionaire and can modify .And the NBA has since become a highly successful league . So they think their future is to appease the woke crowd. It will back lash .
    So when there is talk about someone being casual about throwing millions of people into economic disaster ;the woke should look at the consequences of their own actions . At least half the country thinks this cancelling of the great American culture is a very dangerous path .
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    Apr 5, 2021, 05:07 AM
    For me it's not so much about the economic targeting as it is the phoniness in their attempts to justify it. Everything is not a racial issue. Voter ID laws are not racist and are certainly not "Jim Crow on steroids". Not believing everything M. Markle says is not racist. Using a tree for a team symbol is not racist. Calling the Atlanta ballclub the "Braves" is not racist. A Christian baker not wanting to participate in a "gay wedding" is not homophobic. At some point a little common sense would become useful. Even the famous porn-author, Stacey Abrams, is having to back off from her earlier comments.
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    Apr 5, 2021, 07:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Drama alert.
    Schmuck alert.
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    Apr 6, 2021, 04:38 AM
    A poll by Harvard and Harris poll reveals that 64% of Americans view the cancel culture as a threat to freedom .

    Is ‘cancel culture’ a threat to freedom? Poll says 64% of Americans think so | CBS 42

    "It is a chilling finding that most people in the country now are afraid they would be fired if they expressed their real views on social media,” said Mark Penn, the director of the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey.
    “The public generally gives negative ratings to social media companies and sees the movement as more about censorship rather than trying to correct wrongs. It is growing as a national issue,” he said.

    POLL: Majority of Americans See Cancel Culture as Threat to Freedom (yahoo.com)

    The pattern has been the same throughout history. It begins when the revolutionaries exert their power to censor, coerce, and condemn dissenters I have given the examples of the French Revolution ,Stalin and Mao before .So I won't rehash those details . Suffice it to say that eventually ,the cancellers eventually become the cancelled as they feast on each other trying to perpetrate their power . Don't believe me ? ....Ask Robespierre and Danton .The same revolution that took down the Romanov's put an ice pick ax into Trotsky's skull.


    I also wrote of Coca Cola's hypocrisy in condemning Georgia's sensible election reforms which the woke culture claims is Jim Crow like , while ignoring the slave labor that makes their product in China . The company has an ongoing training program designed to make their employees 'less white ' . This information is confirmed by the company.

    Coca-Cola Confirms Training Employees to 'Be Less White' - Becker News

    They also demand that every law firm they hire be less white .
    Coke said it will require quarterly reporting about the makeup of legal teams that do work for it and self identify as American Indian, Alaska Native, Asian, Black, women, Hispanic/Latinx, LGBTQ, Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander or persons with disabilities. For those working on new matters for Coke, “at least 30 percent of each of billed associate and partner time will be from diverse attorneys, and of such amounts at least half will be from Black attorneys.”

    Coke demands diversity among law firms it uses | The Seattle Times

    The reason the Civil Rights Act was passed was to end exactly this kind of favoritism.
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    Apr 6, 2021, 07:16 AM
    They also demand that every law firm they hire be less white .
    In saner times, that would be referred to as racial discrimination. Arbitrary targets such as that always have the same effect. The law firm or business becomes less efficient.
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    Apr 6, 2021, 08:50 AM
    Gotta give it to MLB for making a bold statement by moving the All Star game from Atlanta with it's 34% Black population to Denver with it's almost 10% Black population ......and to Colorado ;a state with more restrictive voting laws than Georgia's new laws
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    #47

    Apr 6, 2021, 10:32 AM
    Unsurprisingly Biden has made no false statements about Colorado’s voting laws.
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    #48

    Apr 6, 2021, 12:56 PM
    Surprising to anyone?

    "Over 200 US companies that called out changes to voter laws require ID for employment."

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...for-employment
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    #49

    Apr 6, 2021, 01:20 PM
    What pieces of voter ID would suffice?
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    #50

    Apr 6, 2021, 02:39 PM
    I thought we agreed earlier that pic ID's would be good.
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    Apr 6, 2021, 02:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I thought we agreed earlier that pic ID's would be good.
    That's all???

    Picture IDs issued by the DMV? NRA? A college currently being attended? A current employer?
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    Apr 6, 2021, 03:13 PM
    Yes. No. Yes. Possibly.
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    #53

    Apr 6, 2021, 03:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yes. No. Yes. Possibly.
    You're certainly no help!
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    #54

    Apr 6, 2021, 06:00 PM
    I just turned 68. You have to cut me some slack. 8D
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    Apr 6, 2021, 07:20 PM
    you are a mere callow youth and very obviously so
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    #56

    Apr 6, 2021, 07:25 PM
    Always good to be called a youth at my age.
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    #57

    Apr 6, 2021, 09:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you think the woke thugs are the court of public opinion ? thanks for the laugh of the day . This is a desperate ploy by MLB to save it's bacon . It is desperately trying to get a young audience. Well maybe geezers like me will remanence about days gone by when the All Star game was interesting . But we will not transfer that enthusiasm for the game to our grandkids , You notice how the NBA was just a little less enthusiastic about all that social justice stuff this season ? That was because they lost audience due to wokeness . Same has happened to NFL . We shall see where the 'court of public opinion 'really sees woke and cancel culture .
    Covid has devastated nearly everything and everybody on the planet. That's bound to change soon, so let's separate that from the politics and repubs suppression for the coming election. Those WOKE and CANCEL talking points are part of that. That's all the righties have left (PUN) and the BIG LIE about voting fraud.

    We've always known that participation via TURN OUT was the key to overcoming the social repression repubs continue to practice, and Big Biz can count as the pendulum swings.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Gotta give it to MLB for making a bold statement by moving the All Star game from Atlanta with it's 34% Black population to Denver with it's almost 10% Black population ......and to Colorado ;a state with more restrictive voting laws than Georgia's new laws
    You did look that up didn't you?
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    Apr 6, 2021, 10:16 PM
    Well Tal I can say from the point of view of my nation, covid has been a damn inconvenience, but devastating it has not been. Yes, we have had a high death rate among elderly nursing home patients, but generally, as I have said before, the death rate is really not much higher than it was before covid, only the circumstances changed which gives some creditability to the theory that when your numbers up, that's it. The grim reaper will prevail . 3% of those who contracted covid died, but not many people contracted it because of sensible behaviour, Business was inconvenienced and some marginal businesses failed. we are powering on despite the devastation
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    #59

    Apr 7, 2021, 02:44 AM
    You did look that up didn't you?
    of course
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    Apr 7, 2021, 02:59 AM
    tal did you actually look at the Georgia changes ? Because if you did you would find that the changes in fact open up voting by easing restrictions .
    Your side is so obsessed with preventing identity confirmation and I just don't understand why . The only one that makes sense is that you don't think you can win unless there is fraud . The arguments that IDs are difficult to get and that a significant number of likely voters don't have IDs are nonsense. The claim that minority voters are somehow incapable of the simple act of obtaining an ID is a racist claim. Minority voters should be outraged that the Dems are insulting them .

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