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    Mar 10, 2021, 08:41 PM
    Trump Demands Money From Republicans
    In a typically bizarre statement from Trump, he has told Republicans NOT to donate money to the Republican Party. Instead, send that money to Trump !!

    Since Trump is not subject to PAC rules, he will use that money to pay off his debts, pay his lawyers as he faces criminal charges in several states, and even pay himself and his family salaries if he wants to (he probably will want to). Just thought the Trumpists here should be aware of this.

    In other news, while landmark legislation is being passed that will bring millions out of poverty, allow more millions to afford health insurance, help local municipalities survive, and kick start the economy, Republicans have voted 100% AGAINST it.

    They are busy discussing Mr. Potato Head.
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    Mar 10, 2021, 10:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post


    In other news, while landmark legislation is being passed that will bring millions out of poverty, allow more millions to afford health insurance, help local municipalities survive, and kick start the economy, Republicans have voted 100% AGAINST it.

    They are busy discussing Mr. Potato Head.
    The Republicans know they won't benefit from it, they will just inherit the debt. The millions can't afford health insurance because the demonrats did a deal that made health insurance too expensive. The dizzens of this board tell us that there is nothing wrong with the economy, and I ask you how can a $1400 handout bring millions out of poverty for more than a few days. Spare the rhetoric and call it what it is, B/S
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    Mar 11, 2021, 05:22 AM
    Trump has a rent free dwelling in your head. The truth is that there is a much less division between Trump and the GOP than there is between traditional liberal Democrats and the becoming dominant "progressive " socialist wing of the Dems .
    Most of the GOP campaigns for 2022 have been invoking the name of Trump and presumably supporting Trumpism . Trump does have a PAC called 'Save America PAC ' so saying he is not subject to PAC rules is incorrect .

    His statement....."No more money for RINOS," ... "They do nothing but hurt the Republican Party and our great voting base--they will never lead us to Greatness. Send your donation to Save America PAC at DonaldJTrump.com. We will bring it all back stronger than ever before!"

    It is correct to say that he is urging his supporters to NOT fund the traditional GOP PACs .

    "I fully support the Republican Party and important GOP Committees, but I do not support RINOs and fools, and it is not their right to use my likeness or image to raise funds," "So much money is being raised and completely wasted by people that do not have the GOP's best interests in mind."

    What he doesn't want is Trump supporter $$ going to NeverTrumpers like Lisa Murkowski .What the GOP wants is Trump's influence without Trumps perceived baggage . They will not be able to have it both ways .
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    Mar 11, 2021, 05:33 AM
    he has told Republicans NOT to donate money to the Republican Party. Instead, send that money to Trump !!
    That is not true. Even CNBC knows that.

    We look forward to working with President Trump to retake our Congressional majorities and deliver results for the American people,” said the joint statement from Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman Rick Scott and National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Emmer.
    “The RNC, NRSC and NRCC are grateful for President Trump’s support, both past and future,” the statement said. “Through his powerful agenda, we were able to break fundraising records and elect Republicans up and down the ballot.”
    Trump, who commands overwhelming support among GOP voters even after losing his reelection bid, is discouraging Republicans from sending money to “people that do not have the GOP’s best interests in mind.”
    Those people, according to Trump, comprise a yet-unspecified group of “fools” and “RINOs”
    — a derogatory term that stands for “Republicans in name only.”
    Trump is instead directing people toward his own political action committee, Save America.
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    Mar 11, 2021, 10:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Trump has a rent free dwelling in your head. ......and the becoming dominant "progressive " socialist wing of the Dems
    You have a rent-free dwelling in your head for the Democrats being socialists. When asked to lay out your ideas of socialist Democratic programs, you failed miserably. MY Trump rent free dwelling is a GOOD thing. YOUR rent free dwelling is FALSE.
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    Mar 11, 2021, 08:30 PM
    What could be more socialist than a $2 Billion spend on social welfare? Of course the Demonrats are socialist; at the very least buying votes..I don't know whether that space in your head is rented out, you live in a low rent district
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    Mar 12, 2021, 03:41 AM
    yes and the Child Credit checks will be sent out monthly to reinforce that sense of dependency on the government . The Dems want to make it permanent ..... then will come the debate about universal basic income . The gimmee comes 1st . Then they hit you with how it gets paid for .
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    Mar 12, 2021, 05:17 AM
    Then they hit you with how it gets paid for .
    There is no conceivable level of taxation to raise that kind of revenue.
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    Mar 12, 2021, 05:20 AM
    yup but they think taxing the rich will foot the bill .
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    Mar 12, 2021, 05:23 AM
    There is another agenda at work. The lib dems who have thought about it (a distinct minority) know it can't be done, so they are after something else.
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    Mar 12, 2021, 03:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    There is no conceivable level of taxation to raise that kind of revenue.
    Oh there is but you wouldn't like it, refer Sweden
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    Mar 13, 2021, 05:53 AM
    This scene in the Netflix show 'Money Heist ' explains what the Dems have done in a decade of liquidity injections .

    Money Heist: The Professor gets the inspector to switch sides (ENGLISH) - YouTube
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    Mar 13, 2021, 06:08 AM
    Oh there is but you wouldn't like it, refer Sweden
    My goodness. You hit the nail on the head with that one. "Sweden is a nation with extraordinary high tax rates. The average worker not only pays 30 percent of her or his income in visible taxes, but, additionally, close to 30 percent in hidden taxes. The defenders of the punishing tax burden argue that it is needed to maintain Sweden's generous welfare system."

    In addition, the sales tax there is very high. It's what happens when freedom is lost.
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    Mar 13, 2021, 10:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    it is needed to maintain Sweden's generous welfare system." It's what happens when freedom is lost.
    It's what happens when societies adhere to the principles of Judeo-Christianity.
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    Mar 13, 2021, 11:04 AM
    It's what happens when societies adhere to the principles of Judeo-Christianity.
    So you're giving sixty percent of your income to help the poor? Pretty sure I know the answer to that one. And given your checkered history of answering questions, I doubt an answer will be forthcoming.
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    Mar 13, 2021, 11:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So you're giving sixty percent of your income to help the poor? Pretty sure I know the answer to that one.
    Please read Luke 6:37.
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    Mar 13, 2021, 12:19 PM
    "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." Then why are you judging me? And why are you engaging in cherry-picking texts? (I don't think you are, but that's how you always reply when I point to a scripture.)

    Please read Matthew 7:5
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    Mar 13, 2021, 02:53 PM
    go back to your Bible class and leave the quotes there, that way we can move from a religious discussion to a political one
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    Mar 15, 2021, 06:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So you're giving sixty percent of your income to help the poor?
    You avoided my comment. As usual, you see helping the poor as a matter of taxation - and a bad use of it.

    Paul wrote:
    Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.

    Psalm 72:
    Endow the king with your justice, O God, For he will deliver the needy who cry out.

    Jesus Said:

    Blessed are the poor, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
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    Mar 15, 2021, 06:39 PM
    and your point is?

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