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    #81

    Jan 16, 2021, 05:28 AM
    Yes Trump had nothing to do with it, it was all a leftist plot
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    #82

    Jan 16, 2021, 05:52 AM
    "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
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    #83

    Jan 16, 2021, 06:03 AM
    Yes but that didn't happen, did it
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    #84

    Jan 16, 2021, 06:16 AM
    Yes but that didn't happen, did it
    On that same day, several banks were robbed. Amazingly, Trump had nothing to do with those events either. Just because something happened does not mean Trump authored it. It's a ridiculous idea born of hatred.

    What was ironic about Sullivan's Youtube rant was that he ended his profanity laden dialogue by encouraging everyone to, "Be safe. Be blessed." I guess we should be happy he didn't suggest that they, "Be f**king blessed." The most disturbing thing about it is the knowledge that AOC and her ilk would have loved his violence-promoting rhetoric. Well no. Even more disturbing than that is the knowledge that the three supposedly freedom-loving amigos on this board who pretend to be so much in favor of non-insurrectionist, peaceful dialogue will let this video slide by without so much as a peep of protest. They are opposed to the promotion of insurrection only if they think it can be pinned on a conservative.
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    #85

    Jan 16, 2021, 07:35 AM
    Sullivan was released without bail today. This even after his brother turned him in because he says Sullivan was one of the leaders of the protest /attack on the Capitol
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    #86

    Jan 16, 2021, 08:22 AM
    Sullivan was released without bail today.
    This is a guy who is on video record as threatening the President of the United States. Even so, why am I not surprised? Will be interesting to see what ends up happening to his honest brother.
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    #87

    Jan 16, 2021, 10:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Sullivan was released without bail today.
    From The Salt Lake Tribune:
    Judge Daphne Oberg denied a prosecutor’s request to keep Utah activist John Sullivan in jail, but she agreed to release him only under conditions that include electronic monitoring and a mental health evaluation.

    Sullivan was in virtual court Friday afternoon, one day after being booked at the Tooele County Jail on a warrant for allegedly participating in the rioting at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. Sullivan was charged in federal court in the District of Columbia with civil disorder, being in a restricted area and disorderly conduct.

    He previously told The Salt Lake Tribune that he attended the riot to document what was happening, but a government affidavit alleges he did more than just film. The affidavit says Sullivan yelled things such as “We accomplished this sh--. We did this together,” and, “We are all a part of this history. ... Let’s burn this s--- down.” He also broke a window and claimed to have a knife, according to the affidavit.

    Sullivan claimed in a YouTube video that he was just trying to fit in at the riot for his own safety.

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/01/...activist-john/
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    #88

    Jan 16, 2021, 10:19 AM
    Sullivan claimed in a YouTube video that he was just trying to fit in at the riot for his own safety.
    If you want to be safe, then stay away from the riot.

    If you listen to his rant in the video Tom linked, he is openly proclaiming his desire to assault the White House. This is not a peaceful man.
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    #89

    Jan 16, 2021, 10:31 AM
    There is video proof that shows he was more than just trying to "fit in" . He was with photo journalist Jade Sacker and can be heard claiming ownership for the riot . They are both seen early ,entering the Capitol ,before anyone from the Trump rally arrived .
    (9) Max Blumenthal on Twitter: "Seated w/Sullivan on CNN is Jade Sacker, a photojournalist who followed him into the Capitol to film his exploits as part of a documentary project. Here she's heard congratulating him - "We did it!" - and he says, "Is this not gonna be the best film you've ever made in yr life?" https://t.co/KWLVfgKPA7" / Twitter
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    #90

    Jan 16, 2021, 10:45 AM
    And there's a name for someone like Sullivan....
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    #91

    Jan 16, 2021, 11:16 AM
    And there's a name for someone like Sullivan....
    Sure is. "Repeat offender"

    https://universe.byu.edu/2020/07/10/...provo-protest/

    He is one of the founders of Insurgence USA. How encouraging.
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    #92

    Jan 16, 2021, 01:27 PM
    Leave it to the loony fringers to focus on one "lefty loon" and say nothing of the invited dufus mob of killers, assaulters, and vandals, and loony right wing sycophants. Many cops who left the places they serve and protect to visit mayhem and chaos on our capital.

    Many are "repeat offenders" and planning more repeat offenses.
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    #93

    Jan 16, 2021, 01:39 PM
    Many are "repeat offenders" and planning more repeat offenses.
    I have often given the Napoleon remedy to that kind of lawlessness as a solution .( a whiff of grapeshot)
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    #94

    Jan 16, 2021, 02:10 PM
    I'll settle for perp walks and prosecutions. Leaders and followers! You're gonna need a lot of grapes.

    See years of violent evidence against Trump and enablers for Capitol riot (msn.com)
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    #95

    Jan 17, 2021, 05:56 PM
    That's gripes Tal
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    #96

    Jan 17, 2021, 06:26 PM
    The gripe of wrats?
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    #97

    Jan 17, 2021, 07:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The gripe of wrats?
    You guys would know all about wrats
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    #98

    Jan 17, 2021, 07:59 PM
    Can't say we don't. A roo is a big wrat you know.
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    #99

    Jan 17, 2021, 09:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Can't say we don't. A roo is a big wrat you know.
    No, a roo is a failed human, they can box you know so don't give them cheek
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    #100

    Jan 21, 2021, 12:51 AM
    Is Pelosi going to file charges of impeachment against Biden since this riot occurred on his very first day in office? I have a funny feeling that this is the first of many to come. No doubt the liberal dem mayor of Portland will come forward with his usual vigorous response to the property damage.

    At least things are back to normal with left wing, dem-leaning groups doing the rioting.

    "Portland rioters damage ICE building; police declare 'unlawful assembly'"

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/anti-bide...ortland-police

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